Re: [nsp] CAR bug

From: George Robbins (grr@shandakor.tharsis.com)
Date: Sat Jan 29 2000 - 13:33:49 EST


> Subject: Re: [nsp] CAR bug
> To: hank@att.net.il (Hank Nussbacher)
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:40:13 -0600 (CST)
> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net, lindahl@ack.berkeley.edu (ken lindahl)
>
> >Perhaps it's the extra processing incurred by looking deeper into the
> >packet (for the icmp type), or it's simply an IOS bug. Has anyone seen
> >anything like this?
>
> Yes, we were bitten by this, or something very like it.
>
> Attempts to rate limit ICMP at our site using CAR in a 7513 with
> vip2/50s and 11.1(n)CC code came to an end the day that router
> apparently started blocking all ICMP to certain subnets on the campus.

Have you tried this recently 11.1(n)-CC-wise? We've used CAR pretty
extensively in the regional ISP setting (nap-peering, multi-pop backbone,
lots of t1's and colocation and never had a reason to back it out.

Typically we'll rate-limt customers with contracted bandwidith less than
their circuit, but we also limit "all icmp" at various points within
the network to tune down smurf attacks.

Of course like CEF/dCEF it's the intersection between the users's
environment and an extensive set of bugs that determine whether or
not the feature is usable...

                                                George



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