[c-nsp] using snmp views effectively

Ray Burkholder ray at oneunified.net
Fri Sep 15 06:00:22 EDT 2006


Here is a slightly different peak at the situation.

Cricket, when coupled with some slightly modified Acktomic tools, is very
adept at bringing out 'demanding SLA/QoS/ Performance trending requirements'
in routers.  I have SLA's and QoS settings in may routers, and use Cricket
to pull this info out. Information can be stored at whatever resolution
you'd like with a few extra modifications.  The data is stored in rrdtool
data files.  Rrdtool data is accessible through a simple api.

The next cool step is that all the configuration and scanning parameters for
Cricket are stored in a configuration database.  This is a central location
desribing all the data and labels stored in the rrdtools files.  I've
managed to reverse engineer some key queries from this special purpose
database.

With a few perl scripts, I'm able to query this database for parameters and
labels, and with a few calls to the rrdtools api, I'm able to pull out data
and present the data in any fashion I wish.

For your particular requirement, if you need to present authorization
screens before viewing certain aspects, it is a relative no-brainer with
another perl script or two.

There is a utility out there called drraw that can be used to configure
custom graphs from rrdtool data.

So, I think, with not too much extra work, it may be possible to integrate
some open source tools to take care of your demanding requirements.  On the
other hand, can you name any specific requirements that may contradict this
line of reasoning?

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Rolf Mendelsohn
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 04:44
To: Ed Ravin
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] using snmp views effectively

Hi Ed,

Generally I would agree with you that this is a messy a potential
problematic approach in many respects.

However as mentioned I have a specific customer with some complex enterprise
requirements and we cannot build integrate Open Source applications to do
everything this specific customer needs.

Therfore I'm asking:

Does anybody have reasonable experience with snmp view statements (basically
to allow: Interface Stats, CBWFQ stats)?

If you do a sample config would be much appreciated, perhaps off-list.

tx
/rolf

On Thursday 14 September 2006 17:09, Ed Ravin wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 12:33:11PM +0100, Rolf Mendelsohn wrote:
> > I am wondering if there are any service providers who effectively 
> > deploy complex snmp-view statement in order to allow customers who 
> > have demanding SLA/QoS/ Performance trending requirements to 'view' 
> > the MIB's of their connected interfaces.
> >
> > Obviously we don't want them to see all MIB's but there are a large 
> > number which would be required in order to effectively collect this
data.
>
> When faced with a similar problem a few years ago, I decided it was 
> better to have customers query my Cricket server to see their graphs 
> rather than poke the router directly.  The only catch was, Cricket 
> didn't have any access control, so I had to patch it in.  The patch is 
> available on Sourceforge.
>
> If you think about it, it's a lot easier to manage the customers on a 
> separate server rather than the router.  And what if you change your 
> network, change your SNMP communities or switch to SNMPv3, etc?
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