[c-nsp] Aggregation for multiple ISDN customers

[root net]

Yes you are correct. Solved.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Brandon Price <brandon at sterling.net>
wrote:

> Cant you just buy an ISDN PRI circuit? That should allow 23 inbound BRI
> calls?
>
> Brandon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of root net
> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 1:05 PM
> > To: Jay Hennigan
> > Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Aggregation for multiple ISDN customers
> >
> > Jay,
> >
> > You are correct the ISDN PTP loop is confusing. I am talking
> > a dedicated
> > ISDN line that dials only one other ISDN line on the ISP side
> > to make up a
> > PTP loop if you will.  Hopefully that clears.  Unlimited ISDN
> > BRI service is
> > what we will order for the customer cheaper and safer.  After
> > contacting the
> > LEC, they do not offer IDSL so handing off to our ATM is out of the
> > question.  Thank you for your help!
> > -rootnet08
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Jay Hennigan <jay at west.net> wrote:
> >
> > >  root net wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> I am not sure if this question has been asked before if so
> > I apologize.  I
> > >> was wanting some advice on aggregation.  I have some
> > customers that want
> > >> broadband but can not receive in this even T-1 or ISDN is
> > an option.  Of
> > >> course a T-1 is too expensive for the home user and the
> > only option for us
> > >> to provide the bandwidth to the customer is via an ISDN
> > PTP loop.  There
> > >> are
> > >> maybe 10 to 15 wireless is not an option to to inform them
> > about this to
> > >> no
> > >> avail.  How can we bring in the PTP ISDN lines on one
> > circuit on our side,
> > >> T-1 possibly?
> > >>
> > >
> > > "ISDN PTP loop" is somewhat confusing.  ISDN is normally a
> > switched service
> > > (and beware of per-minute charges, just like POTS).
> > >
> > > There is IDSL which is a form of DSL which uses 2B1Q
> > encoding to deliver a
> > > 192 kbits/s symmetrical digital pipe.  The advantage of this over
> > > traditional DSL is that ISDN BRI-type repeaters can be used
> > to extend the
> > > loop length.
> > >
> > > I'm not certain how several of these loops would be
> > aggregated directly  on
> > > Cisco gear or if it is even possible.  Typically a
> > central-office-located
> > > DSLAM would have an IDSL line card to terminate the loops
> > and hand off to
> > > you as a PVC on an ATM aggregate circuit.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net
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> > >
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