From arnolditya at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  1 01:30:10 2009
From: arnolditya at hotmail.com (arnoldus Subiyanto)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:30:10 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP convergence
Message-ID: <COL107-W47FE8B38C00F56ABF26B50D08B0@phx.gbl>


Hello..

I'am is new member here..
My name aditya from bali-indonesia..

I want to conduct research to examine the speed of convergence in BGP.
What's
his friends all know that there is software that can be used to view
the update process of the BGP routing table. things that i want to know  is  :
 1. Large table; 
 2. Large memory is used; 
 3. Speed peering; 
 4. AS-PATH length
Or in cisco router have command to see that ?

One more,,
whether there is a standard speed needed to make a BGP router convergence?
thanks for your help ..

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From gert at greenie.muc.de  Wed Apr  1 02:22:09 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:22:09 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <1238536244.3604.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<1238536244.3604.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090401062209.GG290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:50:44PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 22:44 +0200, Dirk-Jan van Helmond wrote:
> > I've asked my accountmanager @Cisco, so you please ask yours. Maybe if  
> > we ask kind enough, they will think about it ;)
> 
> Yeah, that usually works like a charm. Remember BFD for SVIs? ;-)

Gah.  I had all forgotten about it...

gert

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From sandmaier at schlund.net  Wed Apr  1 02:44:33 2009
From: sandmaier at schlund.net (Jan Sandmaier)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 08:44:33 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
In-Reply-To: <d6966e4b0903310924r3f857c6dmf7c7a1fb2ee5712a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <863386.41277.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<d6966e4b0903310924r3f857c6dmf7c7a1fb2ee5712a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49D30D51.4060304@schlund.net>

Geoffrey Pendery schrieb:
> The stuff we've been reading (look at "Supervisor Engines Supported"
> on the data sheets for "Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet
> Interface Modules", or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into
> Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or
> X6708 10 Gig "LAN" cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES "WAN" type cards.
>
> I don't mean to kick off a big "6500 vs 7600" storm again, but does
> anyone know if this is incorrect?
> Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS
> on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work?
>   

X6708-10G-3C works definitly. X6704 also. You have to check the release 
notes or software advisor for the suitable IOS.

Jan
>
> -Geoff
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech <techconfig at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi
>> I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable.
>>
>> My technical requirements are:
>> 10Gbps line rate
>> IPv4
>> Able to handle full Internet routing table
>> Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future
>>
>> With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e.
>>
>> Memory Option:
>> MEM-XCEF720-256M
>> Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A)
>> MEM-XCEF720-512M
>> Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B)
>> MEM-XCEF720-1GB
>> Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL)
>>
>> ====================================================
>> Distributed Forwarding Card Option
>>
>> WS-F6700-CFC
>> Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules
>> WS-F6700-DFC3B
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx
>> WS-F6700-DFC3A
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules
>> WS-F6700-DFC3BXL
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx
>> WS-F6700-DFC3C
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules
>> WS-F6700-DFC3CXL
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx
>>
>> I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From asad747 at cyber.net.pk  Wed Apr  1 03:56:04 2009
From: asad747 at cyber.net.pk (Asad Ul-Islam)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:56:04 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Problem with L2TP !!
Message-ID: <002801c9b29f$4e94d250$ebbe76f0$@net.pk>

Dear friends!

 

I am trying to establish a L2TP tunnel between a LAC (Which is also Acting
as BRAS) and LNS (Which is also acting as BRAS). 

 

User ---------[Cisco 3640 LAC]----- IP Cloud-------[Cisco 3845 LNS]

 

The problem I am facing is that the scenario is working fine as long as I am
using user account created locally on LNS.  However as soon as I enable
radius parameters, LAC stops establishing tunnel with LNS and connects the
user on LAC as pppoe user. After investigation I have found that If I remove
following line from the configuration L2TP Tunnels works perfectly fine; 

 

aaa authorization network default group radius

 

Can someone tell me Why its happening?? Since I am using @domain in user ids
for L2TP users, LAC should not even refer to Radius.  And I need this aaa
authorization parameter since both my LAC and LNS also have PPPoE users
terminated on them.

 

Following is my LAC and LNS configuration after including my radius
parameteres, same configuration works fine without radius parameters.

 

LAC Configuration

 

aaa authentication login default local

aaa authentication ppp default group radius local

aaa authorization network default group radius local

aaa accounting delay-start 

aaa accounting session-duration ntp-adjusted

aaa accounting update periodic 15

aaa accounting network default start-stop group radius

aaa nas port extended

aaa session-id common

!

ip cef

vpdn enable

vpdn multihop

!

vpdn-group 1

 request-dialin

  protocol l2tp

  multihop hostname DSL-LNS

  domain cybernet

 initiate-to ip 1.1.1.1 

 source-ip 2.2.2.2

 local name DSL-LAC

 no l2tp tunnel authentication

!

bba-group pppoe global

 virtual-template 1

!

interface Serial2/1

 description *** Connected to LNS ***

 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.252

 encapsulation ppp

 

interface ATM3/0.2 multipoint

 pvc vpdn 0/36 

  encapsulation aal5snap

  protocol pppoe group global

 

interface Virtual-Template1

 ip unnumbered Serial2/1

 peer default ip address pool home-dsl

 ppp authentication pap

 

 

LNS Configuration

 

aaa authentication login default local

aaa authentication ppp default group radius local

aaa authorization network default group radius 

aaa accounting delay-start 

aaa accounting session-duration ntp-adjusted

aaa accounting update periodic 15

aaa session-id common

!

vpdn enable

vpdn multihop

!

vpdn-group 1

 accept-dialin

  protocol l2tp

  virtual-template 1

 terminate-from hostname DSL-LAC

 local name DSL-LNS

 lcp renegotiation on-mismatch

 no l2tp tunnel authentication

!

interface GigabitEthernet0/1.7

 description *** LAC Management ***

 encapsulation dot1Q 7

 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.252

!

interface Virtual-Template1

 ip unnumbered GigabitEthernet0/1.7

 peer default ip address pool PPPoE

 ppp authentication pap

 

 

 

 


From alex at alexfisher.me.uk  Wed Apr  1 05:42:52 2009
From: alex at alexfisher.me.uk (Alexander Fisher)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:42:52 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] dhcprelay regression on latest pix 515 firmware (8.0.4)
Message-ID: <5449aac20904010242q65b3cbd3o69e7ee56c95d749@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I've uncovered a problem with the latest pix 515 firmware (asa-8.0.4)
which didn't exist in 8.0.3.
The dhcprelay function no longer works in some circumstances.
Specifically, I can no longer
do automated linux client installs over the network (FAI).  The
initial dhcp at pxeboot time works fine,
but the later dhcp operation after kernel boot fails.

The client sends a DHCP Request and this gets relayed to the server
without problems, but the
returned DHCP Ack is not forwarded back to the client.

Turning on debug dhcprelay error etc gives...

DHCPRA: relay binding created for client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPD: setting giaddr to 192.168.63.1.
dhcpd_forward_request: request from 001d.09fa.6f13 forwarded to shadowcat.
DHCPD/RA: Punt shadowcat/17152 --> 192.168.63.1/17152 to CP
DHCPRA: Received a BOOTREPLY from interface 2
DHCPRA: relay binding found for client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPRA: Adding rule to allow client to respond using offered address dmz2
DHCPRA: forwarding reply to client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPRA: relay binding found for client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPD: setting giaddr to 192.168.63.1.
dhcpd_forward_request: request from 001d.09fa.6f13 forwarded to shadowcat.
DHCPD/RA: Punt shadowcat/17152 --> 192.168.63.1/17152 to CP
DHCPRA: Received a BOOTREPLY from interface 2
DHCPRA: relay binding found for client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPRA: exchange complete - relay binding deleted for client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPD: returned relay binding 192.168.63.1/001d.09fa.6f13 to address pool.
dhcpd_destroy_binding() removing NP rule for client 192.168.63.1
DHCPRA: forwarding reply to client 001d.09fa.6f13.
DHCPRA: Can't Create binding
DHCPD: setting giaddr to 192.168.63.1.
dhcpd_forward_request: request from 001d.09fa.6f13 forwarded to shadowcat.
DHCPD/RA: Punt shadowcat/17152 --> 192.168.63.1/17152 to CP
DHCPRA: Received a BOOTREPLY from interface 2
DHCPRA: dhcp_relay_agent_receiver:can't find binding
DHCPRA: Can't Create binding
DHCPD: setting giaddr to 192.168.63.1.
dhcpd_forward_request: request from 001d.09fa.6f13 forwarded to shadowcat.
DHCPD/RA: Punt shadowcat/17152 --> 192.168.63.1/17152 to CP
DHCPRA: Received a BOOTREPLY from interface 2
DHCPRA: dhcp_relay_agent_receiver:can't find binding
DHCPRA: Can't Create binding
DHCPD: setting giaddr to 192.168.63.1.
dhcpd_forward_request: request from 001d.09fa.6f13 forwarded to shadowcat.
DHCPD/RA: Punt shadowcat/17152 --> 192.168.63.1/17152 to CP
DHCPRA: Received a BOOTREPLY from interface 2
DHCPRA: dhcp_relay_agent_receiver:can't find binding

Googling turned up nothing, so hopefully this post might be of help to someone.
Does anybody know what could cause the "DHCPRA: Can't Create binding" error?

Kind Regards,
Alex

From lists at memetic.org  Wed Apr  1 05:12:03 2009
From: lists at memetic.org (Adam Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:12:03 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] 6500/7600 Pseudowires
Message-ID: <49D32FE3.9050806@memetic.org>

Hi All,

I have a pseudowire running between an IX and my peering router in 
another country.

There's a SIP600 in a 7606/SUP7203B at the far end facing the IX and a 
WS-X6748-GE-TX + DFC3B in a 7613/SUP7203B at this end facing the peering 
router.

The local 7613 is connected to the remote 7606 with a pair of long GE 
links.

Occasionally something along the chain reflects a couple of frames back 
to the IX, who shuts the port down automatically (killing off all of my 
peering sessions!)

Has anyone had anything similar, and found out the cause for it? I can 
verify that neither the IS-IS route to the 7606 nor the LSP for the 
pseudowire was changed during the issue.

Thanks,
adam.

From linux.yahoo at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 06:26:16 2009
From: linux.yahoo at gmail.com (Manu Chao)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:26:16 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] how to filter some specific logging message
Message-ID: <7100ed370904010326n1e1a28b1i5def36ee24348037@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible to filter some specific syslog message with logging filter
command or with logging discriminator?

There are some "cosmetic" bugs that I need to filter...

Example: i don't want the specific message message including "fem" to be
sent to my remote syslog server.

I try that configuration but no way :( may be a syntax problem may be not
possible to filter?

logging discriminator nolog msg-body drops *fem
logging host x.x.x.x discriminator nolog

Thanks for your help

From ioan.branet at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 06:29:14 2009
From: ioan.branet at gmail.com (Ioan Branet)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:29:14 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco 3750 high CPU utilization HL3U bkgrd]
In-Reply-To: <257d19980903310543n644d75fdsff69326f6bc1ca2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <257d19980903310543n644d75fdsff69326f6bc1ca2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <257d19980904010329p640a27b5yf9c5fbdf47ed98e6@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

Have you encountered a similar situation?

Thank you,


On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ioan Branet <ioan.branet at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We have many Cisco 3750 switches in our network which have high CPU
> utilization.It seems that the process that cause this high load is:HL3U
> bkgrd process.
>
> The problem is solved after a reload but appears again after 3-4 months.
>
> We changed also the IOS but with no results.
>
> It seems that it is a bug but I am not very sure.
>
>
>
> sh processes cpu sorted | ex 0.00
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/28%; one minute: 85%; five minutes:
> 81%
> PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
> 108   389775804   4389443      88799 57.57% 40.01% 39.39%   0 HL3U bkgrd
> proce
> 58    11854779  72185839        164  3.50%  2.77%  2.31%   0 HLFM address
> lea
> 292         689       192       3588  1.91%  0.33%  0.07%   1 Virtual
> Exec     47    12845296   2142151       5996  1.11%  1.00%  1.04%   0 FE
> free chunk   245    17376827    532655      32623  0.63%  0.51%  0.52%   0
> MFI LFD Stats Pr
> 107     5476276  58476944         93  0.63%  0.62%  0.58%   0 Hulc LED
> Process
> 74      768210  21312879         36  0.31%  0.09%  0.08%   0 hpm main
> process
> 135     6540410  20282165        322  0.15%  0.18%  0.22%   0 IP
> Input        143     3566619  27781902        128  0.15%  0.24%  0.20%   0
> Spanning Tree    45     1004640 128285520          7  0.15%  0.15%  0.13%
> 0 Fifo Error Detec
> 138     1152329   2735155        421  0.15%  0.13%  0.12%   0 PI MATM Aging
> Pr
>
>
> sh version
> Cisco IOS Software, C3750ME Software (C3750ME-I5-M), Version 12.2(37)SE1,
> RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
> Compiled Thu 05-Jul-07 20:06 by antonino
> Image text-base: 0x00003000, data-base: 0x0163F400
>
> ROM: Bootstrap program is C3750 boot loader
> BOOTLDR: C3750ME Boot Loader (C3750ME-HBOOT-M) Version 12.1(14r)AX, RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (fc1)
>
> vic102 uptime is 4 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 9 minutes
> System returned to ROM by power-on
> System restarted at 03:01:54 GMT Fri Feb 27 2009
> System image file is "flash:c3750me-i5-mz.122-37.SE1.bin"
>
> cisco ME-C3750-24TE (PowerPC405) processor (revision F0) with
> 118784K/12280K bytes of memory.
> Processor board ID CAT1043NM05
> Last reset from power-on
> 8 Virtual Ethernet interfaces
> 24 FastEthernet interfaces
> 4 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
> The password-recovery mechanism is enabled.
>
> 1024K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory.
> Base ethernet MAC Address       : 00:19:E8:87:23:00
> Motherboard assembly number     : 73-9938-04
> Motherboard serial number       : CAT104356B7
> Model revision number           : F0
> Motherboard revision number     : A0
> Model number                    : ME-C3750-24TE-M
> Daughterboard assembly number   : 73-9939-02
> Daughterboard serial number     : CAT104355CQ
> System serial number            : CAT1043NM05
> Top Assembly Part Number        : 800-25952-04
> Top Assembly Revision Number    : C0
> Version ID                      : V05
> CLEI Code Number                : COM1510ARA
> Daughterboard revision number   : A0
> Hardware Board Revision Number  : 0x09
>
>
> Switch   Ports  Model              SW Version              SW
> Image           ------   -----  -----              ----------
> ----------         *    1   28     ME-C3750-24TE
> 12.2(37)SE1             C3750ME-I5-M
> Configuration register is 0xF
>
> #sh memory | i HL
> 030C8118 0000005000 030C804C 030C94CC 001  -------- -------- 005CF8E4  HLFM
> MAC
> 030C94CC 0000000808 030C8118 030C9820 001  -------- -------- 005CF93C  HLFM
> IP
> 0320A434 0000000808 0320A008 0320A788 001  -------- -------- 00CB2F74
> HL3U_IPV4_TABLE_CHUNK
> 0320A788 0000020000 0320A434 0320F5D4 001  -------- -------- 00CB2F9C
> HL3U_FIB_TYPE_CHUNK
> 0320F5D4 0000032768 0320A788 03217600 001  -------- -------- 00CB2FC4
> HL3U_MPATH_ADJ_TYPE_CHUNK
> 03217600 0000000808 0320F5D4 03217954 001  -------- -------- 00CB2FEC
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_ADJ_OR_TCAM_FAIL_CHUNK
> 03217954 0000002000 03217600 03218150 001  -------- -------- 00CB3014
> HL3U_COVERING_FIB_CHUNK
> 03218150 0000000808 03217954 032184A4 001  -------- -------- 00CB303C
> HL3U_ARP_HRPC_THROTTLE_CHUNKS
> 032184A4 0000000432 03218150 03218680 001  -------- -------- 00CB3064
> HL3U_HSRP_RETRY_CHUNKS
> 03218680 0000000808 032184A4 032189D4 001  -------- -------- 00CB308C
> HL3U_PROXY_ARP_CHUNKS
> 032189D4 0000000432 03218680 03218BB0 001  -------- -------- 00CB30B4
> HL3U_QUERIER_INFO_CHUNKS
> 03218BB0 0000003620 032189D4 03219A00 001  -------- -------- 00CB30DC
> HL3U_ICMP_REDIRECT_Q_CHUNK
> 03219A00 0000000296 03218BB0 03219B54 001  -------- -------- 00CB3104
> HL3U_OUT_ACL_FULL_CHUNKS
> 032F2BCC 0000000960 032F252C 032F2FB8 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 0330BD38 0000000176 0330B698 0330BE14 001  -------- -------- 00B18A5C
> HL2MCM
> 0330C174 0000000160 0330C0C0 0330C240 001  -------- -------- 01622A8C
> HL2MCM
> 036F9C6C 0000000972 036F9A8C 036FA064 001  -------- -------- 00CB7108
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 036FA064 0000000872 036F9C6C 036FA3F8 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 0390629C 0000000024 03906258 039062E0 001  -------- -------- 00B1AFAC
> HL2MCM
> 039906D8 0000001292 0399008C 03990C10 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03993CC4 0000000808 03993690 03994018 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 0399C258 0000001476 0399BC14 0399C848 001  -------- -------- 00CB7108
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 0399C964 0000005000 0399C848 0399DD18 001  -------- -------- 005CB1E0  HLFM
> MAC
> 03A0A610 0000001096 03A0A3EC 03A0AA84 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03A2B8E4 0000000808 03A2B858 03A2BC38 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03A2BC38 0000000872 03A2B8E4 03A2BFCC 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03A2E864 0000007768 03A2E624 03A306E8 001  -------- -------- 005CB1E0  HLFM
> MAC
> 03A30D28 0000000808 03A30CBC 03A3107C 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03A92BD4 0000000808 03A92590 03A92F28 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03EE36A8 0000005000 03EE3634 03EE4A5C 001  -------- -------- 005CB1E0  HLFM
> MAC
> 03F24DCC 0000001008 03F24D54 03F251E8 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03F43C34 0000008200 03F43BE8 03F45C68 001  -------- -------- 005CB1E0  HLFM
> MAC
> 03F4C260 0000000808 03F4C1CC 03F4C5B4 001  -------- -------- 005CB5B8  HLFM
> IP
> 03F85410 0000000808 03F84DBC 03F85764 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03F85EF0 0000001008 03F85764 03F8630C 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03F872A8 0000001288 03F86F08 03F877DC 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03FEBD34 0000000808 03FEB5A8 03FEC088 001  -------- -------- 00CB7108
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03FEC088 0000001076 03FEBD34 03FEC4E8 001  -------- -------- 00CB7108
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03FEEF64 0000000808 03FEE7D8 03FEF2B8 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03FEF2B8 0000000832 03FEEF64 03FEF624 001  -------- -------- 00CBE090
> HL3U_FIB_WITH_
> 03FF05F0 0000005944 03FF04FC 03FF1D54 001  -------- -------- 005CB1E0  HLFM
> MAC
>
>
> #sh sdm prefer
> The current template is "desktop routing" template.
> The selected template optimizes the resources in
> the switch to support this level of features for
> 8 routed interfaces and 1024 VLANs.
>
> number of unicast mac addresses:                  3K
> number of IPv4 IGMP groups + multicast routes:    1K
> number of IPv4 unicast routes:                    11K
>   number of directly-connected IPv4 hosts:        3K
>   number of indirect IPv4 routes:                 8K
> number of IPv4 policy based routing aces:         0.5K
> number of IPv4/MAC qos aces:                      0.5K
> number of IPv4/MAC security aces:                 1K
>
> Mar 31 12:48:11: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:48:17: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:48:28: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:48:46: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:49:00: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:49:47: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:50:39: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:51:02: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:51:34: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:51:55: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:53:11: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:53:25: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:53:37: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:54:36: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:56:44: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 12:57:48: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 13:02:22: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 13:02:48: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 13:03:56: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 13:07:31: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
> Mar 31 13:30:37: %OCE-3-MISSING_HANDLER_FOR_SW_OBJ_TYPE: Missing handler
> for 'non choice oce get next' function for type Midchain
>
>
> On other 3750 from our network:
>
> sh processes cpu  sorted | ex 0.00
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 43%/2%; one minute: 58%; five minutes:
> 59%
> PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
> 108  2635783702  47442165      55558 30.55% 48.37% 49.28%   0 HL3U bkgrd
> proce
> 294         500      2692        185  3.19%  0.55%  0.13%   1 Virtual
> Exec     47   296813504  43714587       6789  1.43%  1.70%  1.74%   0 FE
> free chunk   107    58156203 265066803        219  0.63%  0.42%  0.37%   0
> Hulc LED Process
> 247    88726248   2800468      31682  0.47%  0.45%  0.47%   0 MFI LFD Stats
> Pr
> 117     3310849   6664259        496  0.15%  0.04%  0.03%   0 HRPC qos
> request
> 135     8065160  45776840        176  0.15%  0.07%  0.04%   0 IP
> Input        243    28572622  56335656        507  0.15%  0.17%  0.18%   0
> ISIS Upd
> #sh ver
> Cisco IOS Software, C3750ME Software (C3750ME-I5-M), Version 12.2(37)SE1,
> RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1986-2007 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
> Compiled Thu 05-Jul-07 20:06 by antonino
> Image text-base: 0x00003000, data-base: 0x0163F400
>
> ROM: Bootstrap program is C3750 boot loader
> BOOTLDR: C3750ME Boot Loader (C3750ME-HBOOT-M) Version 12.1(14r)AX, RELEASE
> SOFTWARE (fc1)
>
> rom101 uptime is 27 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 13 minutes
> System returned to ROM by power-on
> System restarted at 20:03:10 CETDST Wed Sep 17 2008
> System image file is "flash:c3750me-i5-mz.122-37.SE1.bin"
>
> cisco ME-C3750-24TE (PowerPC405) processor (revision F0) with
> 118784K/12280K bytes of memory.
> Processor board ID CAT1111NLH3
> Last reset from power-on
> 3 Virtual Ethernet interfaces
> 24 FastEthernet interfaces
> 4 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces
> The password-recovery mechanism is enabled.
>
> 1024K bytes of flash-simulated non-volatile configuration memory.
> Base ethernet MAC Address       : 00:1B:2B:E6:4B:00
> Motherboard assembly number     : 73-9938-04
> Motherboard serial number       : CAT11115HNX
> Model revision number           : F0
> Motherboard revision number     : B0
> Model number                    : ME-C3750-24TE-M
> Daughterboard assembly number   : 73-9939-02
> Daughterboard serial number     : CAT11115KVD
> System serial number            : CAT1111NLH3
> Top Assembly Part Number        : 800-25952-04
> Top Assembly Revision Number    : C0
> Version ID                      : V05
> CLEI Code Number                : COM1510ARA
> Daughterboard revision number   : A0
> Hardware Board Revision Number  : 0x09
>
>
> Switch   Ports  Model              SW Version              SW
> Image           ------   -----  -----              ----------
> ----------         *    1   28     ME-C3750-24TE
> 12.2(37)SE1             C3750ME-I5-M
> Configuration register is 0xF
>        Do you have any idea what is the root cause of this issue?
>
>
>
>
> Thnak you,
>
> --
> Ioan Branet
>
>


-- 
Ioan Branet
CCIE #23474 R&S

From ip at ioshints.info  Wed Apr  1 06:55:52 2009
From: ip at ioshints.info (Ivan Pepelnjak)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:55:52 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] how to filter some specific logging message
In-Reply-To: <7100ed370904010326n1e1a28b1i5def36ee24348037@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7100ed370904010326n1e1a28b1i5def36ee24348037@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002f01c9b2b8$6d5f0480$0a00000a@nil.si>

The "drops" keyword expects a regular expression. You should use "fem"
instead of "*fem" (or maybe ".*fem").

Ivan
 
http://www.ioshints.info/about
http://blog.ioshints.info/ 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Manu Chao [mailto:linux.yahoo at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:26 PM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] how to filter some specific logging message
> 
> Is it possible to filter some specific syslog message with 
> logging filter command or with logging discriminator?
> 
> There are some "cosmetic" bugs that I need to filter...
> 
> Example: i don't want the specific message message including 
> "fem" to be sent to my remote syslog server.
> 
> I try that configuration but no way :( may be a syntax 
> problem may be not possible to filter?
> 
> logging discriminator nolog msg-body drops *fem logging host 
> x.x.x.x discriminator nolog
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> 


From achatz at forthnet.gr  Wed Apr  1 10:50:01 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:50:01 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
Message-ID: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>

...but release notes haven't been updated yet.

I'm having a maintenance window tomorrow and i was planning to upgrade 3 6500s from SXF9 to SXI, but since SXI1 came 
out, i'm thinking of moving directly to it. Anyone know what is fixed from SXI to SXI1?

PS: I was running SXI in a lab for a few weeks without any major issues.

-- 
Tassos

From jared at puck.nether.net  Wed Apr  1 11:02:02 2009
From: jared at puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:02:02 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>


On Apr 1, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

> ...but release notes haven't been updated yet.
>
> I'm having a maintenance window tomorrow and i was planning to  
> upgrade 3 6500s from SXF9 to SXI, but since SXI1 came out, i'm  
> thinking of moving directly to it. Anyone know what is fixed from  
> SXI to SXI1?
>
> PS: I was running SXI in a lab for a few weeks without any major  
> issues.

	I know this image has 4-byte ASN support and fixes for at least one  
bgp related bug.  I've been toying with it for a few hours now with no  
significant problems.

	I know at least one of my bugs did not make it to SXI1 making the  
modular unusable in our environment.

	- Jared

From oboehmer at cisco.com  Wed Apr  1 11:08:21 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:08:21 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Problem with L2TP !!
In-Reply-To: <002801c9b29f$4e94d250$ebbe76f0$@net.pk>
References: <002801c9b29f$4e94d250$ebbe76f0$@net.pk>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840723AEAE@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>


> Dear friends!
> 
> I am trying to establish a L2TP tunnel between a LAC (Which is also
> Acting as BRAS) and LNS (Which is also acting as BRAS).
> 
> User ---------[Cisco 3640 LAC]----- IP Cloud-------[Cisco 3845 LNS]
> 
> The problem I am facing is that the scenario is working fine as long
> as I am using user account created locally on LNS.  However as soon
> as I enable radius parameters, LAC stops establishing tunnel with LNS
> and connects the user on LAC as pppoe user. After investigation I
> have found that If I remove following line from the configuration
> L2TP Tunnels works perfectly fine; 
> aaa authorization network default group radius
> 
> Can someone tell me Why its happening?? Since I am using @domain in
> user ids for L2TP users, LAC should not even refer to Radius.  And I
> need this aaa authorization parameter since both my LAC and LNS also
> have PPPoE users terminated on them.
 
well, you need to decide whether you want to authorize via Radius or
not. If you are using domains, you can define

cybernet Password = "cisco"
	Service-Type = Outbound-User,
	cisco-avpair = "vpdn:tunnel-id=DSL-LNS",
	cisco-avpair = "vpdn:tunnel-type=l2tp",
	cisco-avpair = "vpdn:ip-addresses=1.1.1.1",
	cisco-avpair = "vpdn:source-ip=2.2.2.2"
 
Once you configure vpdn multihop (turning the LNS into a LAC), the node
will perform network authorization for all connections, including for
users with domains. There is a special authorization for domains where
the domain will be authorized with Radius (using the fixed "cisco"
password), and if the profile exists, the LAC/LNS will search for tunnel
information and forward the session (if found).
If there is no domain/tunnel profile, the LAC/LNS will authorize the
full username to terminate the session locally.

Hope this helps..

	oli

From justin at justinshore.com  Wed Apr  1 11:57:36 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:57:36 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Bridging DS1s from Overture ISGs back to Cisco channelized
	DS3 interfaces
Message-ID: <49D38EF0.5050307@justinshore.com>

Has anyone ever successfully terminated a group of bonded DS1s from an 
Overture device such as an ISG 140 back to a PA-MC-2T3-EC?  Talking to 
Overture's support they're saying that even though they use MLPPP they 
also require the use of BCP (Bridge Control Protocol) which I personally 
hadn't heard of until today.  They're saying that I need to be able to 
pass 1Q tagged frames down the MLPPP bundle to the ISG on the remote 
end.  The SE they have onsite here has a document that shows an example 
config but it apparently requires IP routing to be disabled (no ip 
routing).  That's not cool.  That kind of defeats the purpose of buying 
a shiny new router if you have to turn off routing...

So has anyone ever bridged DS1s between a Cisco and Overture box?  Why 
would routing have to be disabled for BCP to work?

Thanks
  Justin



From MLouis at nwnit.com  Wed Apr  1 12:33:04 2009
From: MLouis at nwnit.com (Mike Louis)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:33:04 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
Message-ID: <CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>

SXI didn't support Netflow export from a VRF other than the global table. The command option wasn't available in the ip flow export command syntax.

Here is what I am seeing in SXI

6509(config)#ip flow-export destination 10.1.1.3 9996 ?
  <cr>

The vrf flag was available in SXH.

Has that been fixed in SXI1?



Mike Louis
Senior Solutions Architect
CCIE  #17082 (R&S)


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:02 AM
To: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Cc: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out


On Apr 1, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:

> ...but release notes haven't been updated yet.
>
> I'm having a maintenance window tomorrow and i was planning to
> upgrade 3 6500s from SXF9 to SXI, but since SXI1 came out, i'm
> thinking of moving directly to it. Anyone know what is fixed from
> SXI to SXI1?
>
> PS: I was running SXI in a lab for a few weeks without any major
> issues.

        I know this image has 4-byte ASN support and fixes for at least one
bgp related bug.  I've been toying with it for a few hours now with no
significant problems.

        I know at least one of my bugs did not make it to SXI1 making the
modular unusable in our environment.

        - Jared
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From p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk  Wed Apr  1 12:40:33 2009
From: p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk (Phil Mayers)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:40:33 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
Message-ID: <49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>

Mike Louis wrote:
> SXI didn't support Netflow export from a VRF other than the global table. The command option wasn't available in the ip flow export command syntax.
> 
> Here is what I am seeing in SXI
> 
> 6509(config)#ip flow-export destination 10.1.1.3 9996 ?
>   <cr>
> 
> The vrf flag was available in SXH.

It didn't work properly in SXH. It only exported MSFC-switched flows.

> 
> Has that been fixed in SXI1?
> 

From MLouis at nwnit.com  Wed Apr  1 12:42:46 2009
From: MLouis at nwnit.com (Mike Louis)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:42:46 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>

Good to know. I didn't it much in SXH, just installed SXH enough long enough to see the command was there. We had a multi-VRF deployment and SXH crashed and went to ROMMON once we configured 3 or more EIGRP AS #s in VRF-Lite deployment. We had to go to SXI for stability with EIGRP and VRF-lite. Then we lost Netflow commands again outside the global VRF.

Mike


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Mayers [mailto:p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:41 PM
To: Mike Louis
Cc: Jared Mauch; Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out

Mike Louis wrote:
> SXI didn't support Netflow export from a VRF other than the global table. The command option wasn't available in the ip flow export command syntax.
>
> Here is what I am seeing in SXI
>
> 6509(config)#ip flow-export destination 10.1.1.3 9996 ?
>   <cr>
>
> The vrf flag was available in SXH.

It didn't work properly in SXH. It only exported MSFC-switched flows.

>
> Has that been fixed in SXI1?
>


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From lists.james.edwards at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 12:44:04 2009
From: lists.james.edwards at gmail.com (james edwards)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 10:44:04 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Problems bringing up BGP session
Message-ID: <b7f636a60904010944q61629408w57bb2689fd47918a@mail.gmail.com>

I moved the BGP session to a new router for my Quagga route server. It was
working before the move but now it comes up,
the RS gets all the routes and in ~5 mins. the session goes down. This looks
like bug  CSCsv33977. I can't apply the workaround
as I do not have the command "dont-capability-negotiate":

Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
edge-router1(config)#router bgp 22523
edge-router1(config-router)#neighbor 198.59.128.243 ?
  activate                 Enable the Address Family for this Neighbor
  advertise-map            specify route-map for conditional advertisement
  advertisement-interval   Minimum interval between sending BGP routing
updates
  allowas-in               Accept as-path with my AS present in it
  capability               Advertise capability to the peer
  default-originate        Originate default route to this neighbor
  description              Neighbor specific description
  disable-connected-check  one-hop away EBGP peer using loopback address
  distribute-list          Filter updates to/from this neighbor
  dmzlink-bw               Propagate the DMZ link bandwidth
  ebgp-multihop            Allow EBGP neighbors not on directly connected
networks
  fall-over                session fall on peer route lost
  filter-list              Establish BGP filters
  ha-mode                  high availability mode
  inherit                  Inherit a template
  local-as                 Specify a local-as number
  maximum-prefix           Maximum number of prefixes accepted from this
peer
  next-hop-self            Disable the next hop calculation for this
neighbor
  next-hop-unchanged       Propagate next hop unchanged for iBGP paths to
this neighbor
  password                 Set a password
  peer-group               Member of the peer-group
  prefix-list              Filter updates to/from this neighbor
  remote-as                Specify a BGP neighbor
  remove-private-as        Remove private AS number from outbound updates
  route-map                Apply route map to neighbor
  route-reflector-client   Configure a neighbor as Route Reflector client
  send-community           Send Community attribute to this neighbor
  send-label               Send NLRI + MPLS Label to this peer
  shutdown                 Administratively shut down this neighbor
  soft-reconfiguration     Per neighbor soft reconfiguration
  soo                      Site-of-Origin extended community
  timers                   BGP per neighbor timers
  translate-update         Translate Update to MBGP format
  transport                Transport options
  ttl-security             BGP ttl security check
  unsuppress-map           Route-map to selectively unsuppress suppressed
routes
  update-source            Source of routing updates
  version                  Set the BGP version to match a neighbor
  weight                   Set default weight for routes from this neighbor


Cisco Router is running  c7200p-adventerprisek9-mz.122-33.SRC2.bin

Config looks like this:

neighbor 198.59.128.243 remote-as 22523
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 description iBGP WITH HOMER
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 shutdown
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 update-source Loopback1
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 next-hop-self
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 prefix-list DENY-ALL-ROUTES in

Logs:


Apr  1 10:14:44.062 mdt: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 198.59.128.243 Up
Apr  1 10:18:23.462 mdt: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by james
on vty0 (198.59.128.254)
Apr  1 10:21:44.765 mdt: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 198.59.128.243 Down BGP
Notification sent
Apr  1 10:21:44.765 mdt: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor
198.59.128.243 4/0 (hold time expired) 0 bytes
Apr  1 10:21:49 mdt: BGP notification suppress timer expired, old send
notification:
Apr  1 10:21:49 mdt: BGP April 01 16:20:49.913: BGP: 198.59.128.243 passive
send NOTIFICATION 2/8 (no supported AFI/SAFI) afi 0 safi 0

Any clues ?



James H. Edwards
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Judicial Information Division
jedwards at nmcourts.gov

From lists.james.edwards at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 13:51:04 2009
From: lists.james.edwards at gmail.com (james edwards)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:51:04 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Problems bringing up BGP session
In-Reply-To: <9E07F8717FE8BC4FBAE6860F61EA6C1D022B259F@spsrvmail03.nec.br>
References: <b7f636a60904010944q61629408w57bb2689fd47918a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9E07F8717FE8BC4FBAE6860F61EA6C1D022B259F@spsrvmail03.nec.br>
Message-ID: <b7f636a60904011051p5e67b09cl7c4022a555352e3c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Leonardo Gama Souza <
leonardo.souza at nec.com.br> wrote:

> Hi...
> Try again.
> It is a hidden command.
>
>
Thanks, yep it was there. But is did not fix my problem:

pr  1 11:40:44.351 mdt: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 198.59.128.243 Up
Apr  1 11:47:44.994 mdt: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 198.59.128.243 Down BGP
Notification sent
Apr  1 11:47:44.994 mdt: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor
198.59.128.243 4/0 (hold time expired) 0 bytes
Apr  1 11:48:20 mdt: BGP notification suppress timer expired, old send
notification:
Apr  1 11:48:20 mdt: BGP April 01 17:47:21.208: BGP: 198.59.128.243 passive
send NOTIFICATION 2/8 (no supported AFI/SAFI) afi 1 safi 1


james

From jared at puck.nether.net  Wed Apr  1 14:01:21 2009
From: jared at puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:01:21 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
Message-ID: <4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>

netflow on the 65xx is broken enough i'm surprised it gave you any  
data of value.

	- jared

On Apr 1, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Mike Louis wrote:

> Good to know. I didn't it much in SXH, just installed SXH enough  
> long enough to see the command was there. We had a multi-VRF  
> deployment and SXH crashed and went to ROMMON once we configured 3  
> or more EIGRP AS #s in VRF-Lite deployment. We had to go to SXI for  
> stability with EIGRP and VRF-lite. Then we lost Netflow commands  
> again outside the global VRF.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Mayers [mailto:p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 12:41 PM
> To: Mike Louis
> Cc: Jared Mauch; Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; cisco-nsp
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
>
> Mike Louis wrote:
>> SXI didn't support Netflow export from a VRF other than the global  
>> table. The command option wasn't available in the ip flow export  
>> command syntax.
>>
>> Here is what I am seeing in SXI
>>
>> 6509(config)#ip flow-export destination 10.1.1.3 9996 ?
>>  <cr>
>>
>> The vrf flag was available in SXH.
>
> It didn't work properly in SXH. It only exported MSFC-switched flows.
>
>>
>> Has that been fixed in SXI1?
>>
>
>
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From leonardo.souza at nec.com.br  Wed Apr  1 13:08:19 2009
From: leonardo.souza at nec.com.br (Leonardo Gama Souza)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:08:19 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] RES:  Problems bringing up BGP session
In-Reply-To: <b7f636a60904010944q61629408w57bb2689fd47918a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b7f636a60904010944q61629408w57bb2689fd47918a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9E07F8717FE8BC4FBAE6860F61EA6C1D022B259F@spsrvmail03.nec.br>

Hi...
Try again.
It is a hidden command.
 
-----Mensagem original-----
De: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] Em nome de james edwards
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 1 de abril de 2009 13:44
Para: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Assunto: [c-nsp] Problems bringing up BGP session

I moved the BGP session to a new router for my Quagga route server. It
was
working before the move but now it comes up,
the RS gets all the routes and in ~5 mins. the session goes down. This
looks
like bug  CSCsv33977. I can't apply the workaround
as I do not have the command "dont-capability-negotiate":

Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
edge-router1(config)#router bgp 22523
edge-router1(config-router)#neighbor 198.59.128.243 ?
  activate                 Enable the Address Family for this Neighbor
  advertise-map            specify route-map for conditional
advertisement
  advertisement-interval   Minimum interval between sending BGP routing
updates
  allowas-in               Accept as-path with my AS present in it
  capability               Advertise capability to the peer
  default-originate        Originate default route to this neighbor
  description              Neighbor specific description
  disable-connected-check  one-hop away EBGP peer using loopback address
  distribute-list          Filter updates to/from this neighbor
  dmzlink-bw               Propagate the DMZ link bandwidth
  ebgp-multihop            Allow EBGP neighbors not on directly
connected
networks
  fall-over                session fall on peer route lost
  filter-list              Establish BGP filters
  ha-mode                  high availability mode
  inherit                  Inherit a template
  local-as                 Specify a local-as number
  maximum-prefix           Maximum number of prefixes accepted from this
peer
  next-hop-self            Disable the next hop calculation for this
neighbor
  next-hop-unchanged       Propagate next hop unchanged for iBGP paths
to
this neighbor
  password                 Set a password
  peer-group               Member of the peer-group
  prefix-list              Filter updates to/from this neighbor
  remote-as                Specify a BGP neighbor
  remove-private-as        Remove private AS number from outbound
updates
  route-map                Apply route map to neighbor
  route-reflector-client   Configure a neighbor as Route Reflector
client
  send-community           Send Community attribute to this neighbor
  send-label               Send NLRI + MPLS Label to this peer
  shutdown                 Administratively shut down this neighbor
  soft-reconfiguration     Per neighbor soft reconfiguration
  soo                      Site-of-Origin extended community
  timers                   BGP per neighbor timers
  translate-update         Translate Update to MBGP format
  transport                Transport options
  ttl-security             BGP ttl security check
  unsuppress-map           Route-map to selectively unsuppress
suppressed
routes
  update-source            Source of routing updates
  version                  Set the BGP version to match a neighbor
  weight                   Set default weight for routes from this
neighbor


Cisco Router is running  c7200p-adventerprisek9-mz.122-33.SRC2.bin

Config looks like this:

neighbor 198.59.128.243 remote-as 22523
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 description iBGP WITH HOMER
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 shutdown
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 update-source Loopback1
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 next-hop-self
 neighbor 198.59.128.243 prefix-list DENY-ALL-ROUTES in

Logs:


Apr  1 10:14:44.062 mdt: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 198.59.128.243 Up
Apr  1 10:18:23.462 mdt: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by
james
on vty0 (198.59.128.254)
Apr  1 10:21:44.765 mdt: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 198.59.128.243 Down
BGP
Notification sent
Apr  1 10:21:44.765 mdt: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor
198.59.128.243 4/0 (hold time expired) 0 bytes
Apr  1 10:21:49 mdt: BGP notification suppress timer expired, old send
notification:
Apr  1 10:21:49 mdt: BGP April 01 16:20:49.913: BGP: 198.59.128.243
passive
send NOTIFICATION 2/8 (no supported AFI/SAFI) afi 0 safi 0

Any clues ?



James H. Edwards
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Judicial Information Division
jedwards at nmcourts.gov
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From marco at linuxgoeroe.dhs.org  Wed Apr  1 13:44:21 2009
From: marco at linuxgoeroe.dhs.org (Marco van den Bovenkamp)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:44:21 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
Message-ID: <49D3A7F5.10105@linuxgoeroe.dhs.org>

Mike Louis wrote:

> SXI didn't support Netflow export from a VRF other than the global table. The command option wasn't available in the ip flow export command syntax.
> 
> Here is what I am seeing in SXI
> 
> 6509(config)#ip flow-export destination 10.1.1.3 9996 ?
>   <cr>
> 
> The vrf flag was available in SXH.
> 
> Has that been fixed in SXI1?

Probably not. I ran into the same thing when trying to run NetFlow on a 
number of ME6524s. SXH had it, SXI didn't.

TAC said: 'It wasn't fully functional in SXH and worked only for 
software flows. It's removed in SXI and there are no plans to bring it 
back'.

Bummer :-(

		Regards,

			Marco.

From ralvarez.list at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 16:10:31 2009
From: ralvarez.list at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ram=F3n_Alvarez_R.?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:10:31 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Unknown Multicast Traffic cause High CPU
In-Reply-To: <30697BA326C8DC4B863C69C819A56DED490D25@ORION.enitel.net>
References: <30697BA326C8DC4B863C69C819A56DED490D25@ORION.enitel.net>
Message-ID: <24CEC61E8ADF4403A8B14AA6617CC4D3@ADMONPC>

Hello,

 

We have a metrothernet customer using vlan 993, we are experimenting high
CPU usage by unknown multicast traffic coming from this vlan id 993 and this
expand over several switches on the network, but when we remove the vlan
from some pop sites the behavior stop. After that we add the vlan id, again,
and the behavior is normal.

 

We setup a multicast filter to this equipment but this issue is showing
every few days. The multicast filter is:

 

ip igmp profile 1

    range 224.0.0.0 239.255.255.255

 

interface FastEthernet2/30

 switchport access vlan 704

 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q

 switchport trunk allowed vlan
100,199,269,270,291,292,378,379,474,475,535,536

 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
615-620,677,678,703-705,715-735,805,826,829

 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
856,864,867,869,890,916,922,943,958,992,993

 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
996,1108-1110,1120-1122,1183-1185,1353,1354

 switchport trunk allowed vlan add 1363,1364,1375,1376,2513,2514

 switchport mode trunk

 switchport nonegotiate

 no cdp enable

 spanning-tree portfast

 spanning-tree bpdufilter enable

 spanning-tree bpduguard enable

 ip igmp filter 1

 

 

SW_4503#sh processes cpu | e 0.0
CPU utilization for five seconds: 99%/0%; one minute: 98%; five minutes: 91%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
  30  17955901802907757383        617 69.35% 68.33% 63.77%   0 Cat4k Mgmt
LoPri 
  71     7245976  48021324        150  2.00%  2.31%  2.12%   0 MRD

  72    42231304  74816636        564 23.11% 21.86% 20.34%   0 IGMPSN


SW_4503#sh ip igmp snooping mrouter                         
Vlan    ports
----    -----
 993    Fa2/30(dynamic), Gi3/2(dynamic)

 

SW_4503#sh run int fa2/30
Building configuration...

 

Current configuration : 681 bytes
!
interface FastEthernet2/30

 switchport access vlan 704
 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
 switchport trunk allowed vlan
100,199,269,270,291,292,378,379,474,475,535,536
 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
615-620,677,678,703-705,715-735,805,826,829
 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
856,864,867,869,890,916,922,943,958,992,993
 switchport trunk allowed vlan add
996,1108-1110,1120-1122,1183-1185,1353,1354
 switchport trunk allowed vlan add 1363,1364,1375,1376,2513,2514
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport nonegotiate
 no cdp enable
 spanning-tree portfast
 spanning-tree bpdufilter enable
 spanning-tree bpduguard enable
 ip igmp filter 1
end

 

SW_4503#conf ter
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
SW_4503(config)#int fa2/30
SW_4503(config-if)# switchport trunk allowed vlan remove 993
SW_4503#
SW_4503#sh processes cpu | e 0.0   
CPU utilization for five seconds: 14%/0%; one minute: 82%; five minutes: 89%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
  29  2352303324 512512734       4589  2.87%  3.54%  3.72%   0 Cat4k Mgmt
HiPri 
  30  17956380562907774138        617  8.63% 56.76% 61.92%   0 Cat4k Mgmt
LoPri 
  72    42246460  74829450        564  0.71% 17.40% 19.51%   0 IGMPSN

 115    41220440  58103914        709  0.47%  0.14%  0.12%   0 SNMP ENGINE  

 

 


From charles at thewybles.com  Wed Apr  1 16:20:11 2009
From: charles at thewybles.com (Charles Wyble)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:20:11 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Unknown Multicast Traffic cause High CPU
In-Reply-To: <24CEC61E8ADF4403A8B14AA6617CC4D3@ADMONPC>
References: <30697BA326C8DC4B863C69C819A56DED490D25@ORION.enitel.net>
	<24CEC61E8ADF4403A8B14AA6617CC4D3@ADMONPC>
Message-ID: <49D3CC7B.9010404@thewybles.com>

What does a network packet dump tell you?

From peter at rathlev.dk  Wed Apr  1 16:25:31 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:25:31 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>
Message-ID: <1238617531.5087.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:01 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
> netflow on the 65xx is broken enough i'm surprised it gave you any  
> data of value.

Hm, I thought it worked okay. Out of curiosity, what should one be
careful about with it, if one's network was dominated by 6500s?

We only use it for troubleshooting though, so precision is less
important for us if that's the problem.

Regards,
Peter



From lists.james.edwards at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 16:36:34 2009
From: lists.james.edwards at gmail.com (james edwards)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 14:36:34 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] HWIC-1GE-SFP hot insert ?
Message-ID: <b7f636a60904011336v61f2838dgcfc671103a2fc775@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know if this module can be hot inserted ? Cisco says SFP's can
be hot inserted
but I can't find anything about the HWIC-1GE-SFP itself.

Thanks,

-- 
James H. Edwards
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Judicial Information Division
jedwards at nmcourts.gov

From gabszabo at cisco.com  Wed Apr  1 16:38:47 2009
From: gabszabo at cisco.com (Gabor Szabo (gabszabo))
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:38:47 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
In-Reply-To: <49D30D51.4060304@schlund.net>
References: <863386.41277.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><d6966e4b0903310924r3f857c6dmf7c7a1fb2ee5712a@mail.gmail.com>
	<49D30D51.4060304@schlund.net>
Message-ID: <B47845F95C1F774097EEE9DF3AF7D128CD119F@xmb-ams-33c.emea.cisco.com>


RSP720 supervisor is supported from 12.2(33)SRB and supports X6704 from the beginning.
X6708 is supported from 12.2(33)SRC for both SUP720 and RSP720 in the SR train.

Regards,

Gabor


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jan Sandmaier
Sent: 2009. ?prilis 1. 8:45
To: Geoffrey Pendery
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609

Geoffrey Pendery schrieb:
> The stuff we've been reading (look at "Supervisor Engines Supported"
> on the data sheets for "Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series 10 Gigabit Ethernet
> Interface Modules", or browse the line cards for the 7600, or go into
> Configurator tool) claims that the RSP 720 won't support the X6704 or
> X6708 10 Gig "LAN" cards, only the SIP/SPA/ES "WAN" type cards.
>
> I don't mean to kick off a big "6500 vs 7600" storm again, but does
> anyone know if this is incorrect?
> Can we buy a new 7609-S chassis, put a new RSP 720 in it, put 7600 IOS
> on that Sup, then plug in a WS-X6708-10G-3C and have it work?
>   

X6708-10G-3C works definitly. X6704 also. You have to check the release 
notes or software advisor for the suitable IOS.

Jan
>
> -Geoff
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Mark Tech <techconfig at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi
>> I have a prospect for a 10G upstream customer and Upstream ISP connections. I would need to connect these into our 7609s running RSP 720-3CXL's, at the moment I have found that the WS-X6704-10GE card may be suitable.
>>
>> My technical requirements are:
>> 10Gbps line rate
>> IPv4
>> Able to handle full Internet routing table
>> Potentially IPv6 and MPLS in the future
>>
>> With the WS-X6704-10GE, there seems to be several options that are available with it i.e.
>>
>> Memory Option:
>> MEM-XCEF720-256M
>> Catalyst 6500 256MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A)
>> MEM-XCEF720-512M
>> Cat 6500 512MB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3A/DFC3B)
>> MEM-XCEF720-1GB
>> Catalyst 6500 1GB DDR, xCEF720 (67xx interface, DFC3BXL)
>>
>> ====================================================
>> Distributed Forwarding Card Option
>>
>> WS-F6700-CFC
>> Catalyst 6500 Central Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules
>> WS-F6700-DFC3B
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card, 256K Routes for WS-X67xx
>> WS-F6700-DFC3A
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules
>> WS-F6700-DFC3BXL
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3BXL, for WS-X67xx
>> WS-F6700-DFC3C
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card for WS-X67xx modules
>> WS-F6700-DFC3CXL
>> Catalyst 6500 Dist Fwd Card- 3CXL, for WS-X67xx
>>
>> I assume that I would need MEM-XCEF720-1GB and WS-F6700-DFC3CXL?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From c-nsp at djvh.nl  Wed Apr  1 17:31:20 2009
From: c-nsp at djvh.nl (Dirk-Jan van Helmond)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:31:20 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>

I'd rather live in cable-hell than use pass-trough modules....




On Apr 1, 2009, at 10:15 , Elmar K. Bins wrote:

> Dirk,
>
> c-nsp at djvh.nl (Dirk-Jan van Helmond) wrote:
>
>> We're thinking about getting some Cisco CBS 3110 blade switches to
>> aggeregate the interfaces from the bladeservers. The CBS3110 can  
>> stack
>> and is factually just an 3750 in a blade enclosure and has the same
>> roadmap as the 3750.
>> I would very much like to have ISSU on these switches, otherwise an
>> IOS upgrade means downtime for an entire bladechassis, which is
>> unacceptable.
>> Unfortunately ISSU is not supported and not on the roadmap :(
>>
>> I've asked my accountmanager @Cisco, so you please ask yours. Maybe  
>> if
>> we ask kind enough, they will think about it ;)
>
> Your best bet might be to buy pass-through modules and use a couple
> of unstacked 3750s (or 3560s)...it's also a hell of a lot cheaper.
>
> Elmar.


From lowen at pari.edu  Wed Apr  1 17:31:24 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:31:24 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] HWIC-1GE-SFP hot insert ?
In-Reply-To: <b7f636a60904011336v61f2838dgcfc671103a2fc775@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b7f636a60904011336v61f2838dgcfc671103a2fc775@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200904011731.25332.lowen@pari.edu>

On Wednesday 01 April 2009 16:36:34 james edwards wrote:
> Does anyone know if this module can be hot inserted ? Cisco says SFP's can
> be hot inserted
> but I can't find anything about the HWIC-1GE-SFP itself.

AFAIK, and according to the panel on the 3845 here, OIR is not supported by 
any WIC or HWIC.
-- 
Lamar Owen
Chief Information Officer
Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive
Rosman, NC  28772
http://www.pari.edu

From elmi at 4ever.de  Wed Apr  1 17:44:17 2009
From: elmi at 4ever.de (Elmar K. Bins)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 23:44:17 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
Message-ID: <20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>

c-nsp at djvh.nl (Dirk-Jan van Helmond) wrote:

> I'd rather live in cable-hell than use pass-trough modules....

Then, please: Good luck with your account manager. Oh, and someone
tell me as soon as the 3750s do ISSU...



From ralvarez.list at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 18:16:22 2009
From: ralvarez.list at gmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ram=F3n_Alvarez_R.?=)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:16:22 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Unknown Multicast Traffic cause High CPU
References: <30697BA326C8DC4B863C69C819A56DED490D25@ORION.enitel.net>
	<24CEC61E8ADF4403A8B14AA6617CC4D3@ADMONPC>
	<49D3CC7B.9010404@thewybles.com> 
Message-ID: <6356F99CD8104F89B63CE9FE163770FD@ADMONPC>


Charles,

In this case we didn't do a packet dump due the network is equipment have
the cpu very high and this affect several equipments at the same time due
this  behavior do not allow to made additional testing.

The equipments are cat4503, cat6506 and cat3750.

Thanks,

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Charles Wyble [mailto:charles at thewybles.com] 
Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 01 de abril de 2009 02:20 p.m.
Para: "Ram?n Alvarez R."
CC: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Asunto: Re: [c-nsp] Unknown Multicast Traffic cause High CPU

What does a network packet dump tell you?


From tvarriale at comcast.net  Wed Apr  1 18:28:24 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:28:24 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu><1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain><D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl><20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de><37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01>

The 6500 barely supports it.  In fact, I don't know any customers running 
mod due to the train wreck it is.  Anyone here running mod successfully?  If 
so, how long?

But, you can upgrade separate 3750 members and do one switch at a time 
today.  What does ISSU get you on the 3750?

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elmar K. Bins" <elmi at 4ever.de>
To: "Dirk-Jan van Helmond" <c-nsp at djvh.nl>
Cc: "cisco-nsp" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?


> c-nsp at djvh.nl (Dirk-Jan van Helmond) wrote:
>
>> I'd rather live in cable-hell than use pass-trough modules....
>
> Then, please: Good luck with your account manager. Oh, and someone
> tell me as soon as the 3750s do ISSU...
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From vegasnetman at gmail.com  Wed Apr  1 18:35:46 2009
From: vegasnetman at gmail.com (Ozar)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 15:35:46 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Pseudowire and EtherChannel
Message-ID: <8cd002180904011535n13d9327w1e6ed31c5050e367@mail.gmail.com>

Quick question on PS and EtherChannel.

Lets say I have customer who needs 2 gig from A to Z that I am going to
transport by Pseudowire...

Should I etherchannel the ports and make my xconnect in the Port Channel
interface, or just transport each gig interface separately, and customer
handles all the aggregation?

Thanks,
Ozar

From chris at netops.t3com.net  Wed Apr  1 18:08:20 2009
From: chris at netops.t3com.net (Chris Wallace)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:08:20 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software
In-Reply-To: <cf9098540903310117l724411e8h89bc05630d076ab7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf9098540903310117l724411e8h89bc05630d076ab7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ADF655F-D80E-4AD4-A02B-205D4F8CC1CB@netops.t3com.net>

IPPlan here as well... If you are running an RWHOIS server there is  
also a nice script that someone wrote to automatically pull the data  
from IPPlan and build the RWHOIS data files.

http://gregsowell.com/?p=223



On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Gary Roberton wrote:

> Hello all
>
> What IP address management software do you use to control the  
> allocation of
> subnets to your customers/department?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
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From jeff-kell at utc.edu  Wed Apr  1 19:39:17 2009
From: jeff-kell at utc.edu (Jeff Kell)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:39:17 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu><1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain><D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl><20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de><37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>

Tony Varriale wrote:
> But, you can upgrade separate 3750 members and do one switch at a time 
> today.  

You can?  Doesn't the "reload" crash the whole stack?

Jeff

From kloch at kl.net  Wed Apr  1 19:46:38 2009
From: kloch at kl.net (Kevin Loch)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:46:38 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <1238617531.5087.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>	<49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>	<4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>
	<1238617531.5087.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <49D3FCDE.7080705@kl.net>

Peter Rathlev wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:01 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> netflow on the 65xx is broken enough i'm surprised it gave you any  
>> data of value.
> 
> Hm, I thought it worked okay. Out of curiosity, what should one be
> careful about with it, if one's network was dominated by 6500s?
> 
> We only use it for troubleshooting though, so precision is less
> important for us if that's the problem.

I wouldn't use it for accounting but with the right sampling it
can be used to see how much traffic you are sending to/from
other ASN's.  I use:

mls sampling packet-based 1024 8192

Which gives a convenient ~1000 conversion factor from indicated 
bandwidth to actual.

- Kevin

From David at hughes.com.au  Wed Apr  1 19:01:47 2009
From: David at hughes.com.au (David Hughes)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:01:47 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>
Message-ID: <6AE6AC4E-61BA-4437-BC58-B3C9485B4671@Hughes.com.au>


Is anyone happily using per-interface NDE on SXI?  That would be a  
huge leap in usefulness.


David
...


On 02/04/2009, at 4:01 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:

> netflow on the 65xx is broken enough i'm surprised it gave you any  
> data of value.
>
> 	- jared


From jmaimon at ttec.com  Wed Apr  1 21:09:50 2009
From: jmaimon at ttec.com (Joe Maimon)
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:09:50 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] vrf aware cluster-id
Message-ID: <49D4105E.6020002@ttec.com>

Running 124T to take advantage of per vrf bgp router id so that the 
router can have "loopback" bgp connections.

However, route-reflector-client is not taking effect, the neighbor 
reports denied CLUSTER_LIST loop.

Apparently cluster-id needs to be vrf aware as well for this to work.

Is this in the offing or am I on the wrong track?

Thanks,

Joe

From alex.wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au  Wed Apr  1 22:57:57 2009
From: alex.wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au (Wilkinson, Alex)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:57:57 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>


    0n Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 05:50:01PM +0300, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: 

    >...but release notes haven't been updated yet.
    >I'm having a maintenance window tomorrow and i was planning to upgrade 3 6500s from SXF9 to SXI, but since SXI1 came 
    >out, i'm thinking of moving directly to it. Anyone know what is fixed from SXI to SXI1?

What is SXI1 ?

 -aW

IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914.  If you have received this email in error, you are requested to contact the sender and delete the email.



From achatz at forthnet.gr  Thu Apr  2 01:13:22 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:13:22 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?
Message-ID: <49D44972.9010202@forthnet.gr>

Anyone running SXI with a WS-X6724-SFP module (DFC or non DFC), showing high cpu usage due to the fw_lcp process?


6500#remote command module 1 sh proc cpu sort | exc 0.00

CPU utilization for five seconds: 32%/1%; one minute: 31%; five minutes: 31%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  187     1949496    613964       3175 31.19% 30.47% 30.45%   0 fw_lcp process


6500#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
   CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5 minutes
                    1                  28% /  0%            28%             28%
                    6  RP               1% /  1%             1%              1%
                    6  SP              18% /  0%            15%             14%
6500#sh mod
Mod Ports Card Type                              Model              Serial No.
--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------ -----------
   1   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP       XXXXXXXXXXX
   6    2  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)         WS-SUP720-3B       XXXXXXXXXXX


SXH, SXF do not seem to have this problem.

-- 
Tassos

From achatz at forthnet.gr  Thu Apr  2 01:31:02 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 08:31:02 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?
In-Reply-To: <49D44972.9010202@forthnet.gr>
References: <49D44972.9010202@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <49D44D96.2000904@forthnet.gr>

...small correction : a DFC must be present

--
Tassos

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote on 02/04/2009 08:13:
> Anyone running SXI with a WS-X6724-SFP module (DFC or non DFC), showing 
> high cpu usage due to the fw_lcp process?
> 
> 
> 6500#remote command module 1 sh proc cpu sort | exc 0.00
> 
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 32%/1%; one minute: 31%; five minutes: 
> 31%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
>  187     1949496    613964       3175 31.19% 30.47% 30.45%   0 fw_lcp 
> process
> 
> 
> 6500#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
> CPU Resources
>   CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5 
> minutes
>                    1                  28% /  0%            
> 28%             28%
>                    6  RP               1% /  1%             
> 1%              1%
>                    6  SP              18% /  0%            
> 15%             14%
> 6500#sh mod
> Mod Ports Card Type                              Model              
> Serial No.
> --- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------ 
> -----------
>   1   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP       
> XXXXXXXXXXX
>   6    2  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)         WS-SUP720-3B       
> XXXXXXXXXXX
> 
> 
> SXH, SXF do not seem to have this problem.
> 

From gert at greenie.muc.de  Thu Apr  2 02:04:22 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:04:22 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <6AE6AC4E-61BA-4437-BC58-B3C9485B4671@Hughes.com.au>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<718BAA5A-B96A-462E-98A3-55C9D059A532@puck.nether.net>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A30@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<49D39901.7090903@imperial.ac.uk>
	<CBBF2C7B2547D14A910A349B58810AC25C4CF26A37@mncmx1.NWNIT.CORP>
	<4B862218-6A6C-4ACB-8231-DC6887750485@puck.nether.net>
	<6AE6AC4E-61BA-4437-BC58-B3C9485B4671@Hughes.com.au>
Message-ID: <20090402060422.GH290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:01:47AM +1000, David Hughes wrote:
> Is anyone happily using per-interface NDE on SXI?  That would be a  
> huge leap in usefulness.

We do (SXH3a and SXI) and it works.  That is, we haven't uncovered any
nasties yet, and the amount of data is matching our expectations.

gert
-- 
USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
                                                           //www.muc.de/~gert/
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From illcritikz at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 02:10:04 2009
From: illcritikz at gmail.com (Ben Steele)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 16:40:04 +1030
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
Message-ID: <4422cf660904012310l1eb2839cx71c9d494eb85c9d7@mail.gmail.com>

In fear of prosecution from section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914 I will simply
say it is the successor to SXI, the SX series is an IOS available for the
6500 Platform.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps8802/ps6970/ps6017/ps9673/product_bulletin_c25-503086.html

Ben

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Wilkinson, Alex <
alex.wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au> wrote:

>
>    0n Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 05:50:01PM +0300, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
>
>    >...but release notes haven't been updated yet.
>    >I'm having a maintenance window tomorrow and i was planning to upgrade
> 3 6500s from SXF9 to SXI, but since SXI1 came
>    >out, i'm thinking of moving directly to it. Anyone know what is fixed
> from SXI to SXI1?
>
> What is SXI1 ?
>
>  -aW
>
> IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the Australian Defence
> Organisation and is subject to the jurisdiction of section 70 of the CRIMES
> ACT 1914.  If you have received this email in error, you are requested to
> contact the sender and delete the email.
>
>
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From ras at e-gerbil.net  Thu Apr  2 03:24:23 2009
From: ras at e-gerbil.net (Richard A Steenbergen)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 02:24:23 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <4422cf660904012310l1eb2839cx71c9d494eb85c9d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
	<4422cf660904012310l1eb2839cx71c9d494eb85c9d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090402072423.GR51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:40:04PM +1030, Ben Steele wrote:
> In fear of prosecution from section 70 of the CRIMES ACT 1914 I will simply
> say it is the successor to SXI, the SX series is an IOS available for the
> 6500 Platform.

I still say the name "SXI1" is a sexual harassment complaint just
waiting to happen. :)

-- 
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From elmi at 4ever.de  Thu Apr  2 03:48:32 2009
From: elmi at 4ever.de (Elmar K. Bins)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 09:48:32 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Pseudowire and EtherChannel
In-Reply-To: <8cd002180904011535n13d9327w1e6ed31c5050e367@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8cd002180904011535n13d9327w1e6ed31c5050e367@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090402074832.GM74388@ronin.4ever.de>

vegasnetman at gmail.com (Ozar) wrote:

> Lets say I have customer who needs 2 gig from A to Z that I am going to
> transport by Pseudowire...
> 
> Should I etherchannel the ports and make my xconnect in the Port Channel
> interface, or just transport each gig interface separately, and customer
> handles all the aggregation?

I would not count on the packets arriving in-order. Pseudowire is usually
based on MPLS-switching, but it could also be tunnelled.

I'd do some dynamic routing including Multipath (for the balancing) on
the links.



From peter at rathlev.dk  Thu Apr  2 04:25:08 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:25:08 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01> <49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
Message-ID: <1238660708.3408.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 19:39 -0400, Jeff Kell wrote:
> Tony Varriale wrote:
> > But, you can upgrade separate 3750 members and do one switch at a time 
> > today.  
> 
> You can?  Doesn't the "reload" crash the whole stack?

If anybody knows how to do this we need to know. :-)

When I have tried, the first switch to reload will never become active
since it has version incompatibilities. So you can't reload the second,
since there aren't any to take over. Not without downtime at least.

Regards,
Peter


From hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu  Thu Apr  2 04:36:35 2009
From: hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu (Hegedus Gabor)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:36:35 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] c3560, priv-lvl=15, authorization level problem
Message-ID: <49D47913.5020902@euroway.hu>

Hi all!

I have a problem:

I want use aaa authentication with radius in c3560, I try to 
authenticate my user to the priv level 15.
The authentication is succes, but the user is just on the level 1.

radius send back the priv-lvl=15, I can see in the radius debug.

the configurations of the radius and the switch are correct, because  I  
have c2960 with the same configuration, and the priv-level 15 
authentication works on it.

here is my  config sample:

aaa group server radius rad_group
 server *.*.*.* auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813

aaa authentication login method_line group rad_group local
aaa authentication enable default group rad_group enable
aaa authorization console
aaa authorization exec method_line if-authenticated group rad_group local
aaa session-id common

line vty 0 4
 authorization exec method_line
 login authentication method_line

radius-server attribute 6 on-for-login-auth
radius-server attribute 32 include-in-access-req
radius-server attribute 32 include-in-accounting-req
radius-server attribute 25 access-request include
radius-server host *.*.*.* auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 key *

debug log:

Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/*.*.*.*:1812, 
Access-Accept, len 91
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:  authenticator 96 55 55 96 42 75 94 F0 
- 72 55 71 BA 55 51 35 D2
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:  Unsupported         [87]  6  
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:   74 74 79 
32                                      [tty2]
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   
Administrative            [6]
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  25 
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   19  
"shell:priv-lvl=15"
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:  Reply-Message       [18]  34 
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:   0A 25 20 52 61 64 69 75 73 20 41 75 
74 68 65 6E  [?? Radius Authen]
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS:   74 69 63 61 74 69 6F 6E 20 73 75 63 
63 65 73 73  [tication success]
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: RADIUS: saved authorization data for user 
2430320 at 27437E8
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: AAA/AUTHEN (971040830): status = PASS
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: tty2 AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC (3224620906): Port='tty2' 
list='method_line' service=EXEC
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC: tty2 (3224620906) user='XXXXXX'
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: tty2 AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC (3224620906): send AV 
service=shell
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: tty2 AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC (3224620906): send AV cmd*
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: tty2 AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC (3224620906): found list 
"method_line"
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: tty2 AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC (3224620906): Method=IF_AUTHEN
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: AAA/AUTHOR (3224620906): Post authorization 
status = PASS_ADD
Apr  2 10:29:54.547 MET: AAA/AUTHOR/EXEC: Authorization successful



please help me, thank you!

br, Gabor

From ardabalkanay at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 06:45:23 2009
From: ardabalkanay at gmail.com (Arda Balkanay)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 13:45:23 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Pseudowire and EtherChannel
In-Reply-To: <20090402074832.GM74388@ronin.4ever.de>
References: <8cd002180904011535n13d9327w1e6ed31c5050e367@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090402074832.GM74388@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <9af987420904020345u74024293t10a3baef94aa2b5d@mail.gmail.com>

you can configure xconnect at portchannel interfaces.
But for load-balance ether-channel makes load balance as follows:

c076_01#sh etherchannel load-balance
EtherChannel Load-Balancing Configuration:
        dst-mac
        mpls label-ip

EtherChannel Load-Balancing Addresses Used Per-Protocol:
Non-IP: Destination MAC address
  IPv4: Destination MAC address
  IPv6: Destination MAC address (routed packets)
        Destination IP address (bridged packets)
  MPLS: Label or IP
c076_01#

For eompls you can only make load balance with label. I'm not sure if it is
mpls header (with exp bits) or just the label value but if it is just the
label value, you can not load balance that traffic in my opinion, if it is
mpls header you can load balance by changing exp bits according to the
volume of traffic but it is not the real load balancing it is just a work
around.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Kind Regards
Arda




On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Elmar K. Bins <elmi at 4ever.de> wrote:

> vegasnetman at gmail.com (Ozar) wrote:
>
> > Lets say I have customer who needs 2 gig from A to Z that I am going to
> > transport by Pseudowire...
> >
> > Should I etherchannel the ports and make my xconnect in the Port Channel
> > interface, or just transport each gig interface separately, and customer
> > handles all the aggregation?
>
> I would not count on the packets arriving in-order. Pseudowire is usually
> based on MPLS-switching, but it could also be tunnelled.
>
> I'd do some dynamic routing including Multipath (for the balancing) on
> the links.
>
>
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From James.Munroe at gnb.ca  Thu Apr  2 07:42:52 2009
From: James.Munroe at gnb.ca (Munroe, James   (DSS/MAS))
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 08:42:52 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?
In-Reply-To: <49D44972.9010202@forthnet.gr>
References: <49D44972.9010202@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <458B3EC21E4A3044998E917199AACB2F01A646D5@GNBEX02.gnb.ca>

I've got two 6509's with WS-X6724-SFP (w/ CFC) running SXI and I'm not
seeing that problem:

6509 #1:

XX#sh mod
Mod Ports Card Type                              Model
Serial No.
--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
-----------
  1   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP       

XX#remote command module 1 sh proc cpu sort

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes:
1%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
 187    13802188 547904699         25  0.15%  0.19%  0.18%   0 fw_lcp
process
   1           0         3          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Chunk
Manager
   2         204   1277786          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Load
Meter
   3           4    779932          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 MFI LFD
Timer Pr
   5           0        10          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IPC ISSU
Dispatc
   4           0        43          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0
Retransmission o

XX#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
  CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                   1                   0% /  0%             1%
1%


6509 #2:

XY#remote command module 2 sh proc cpu sort

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes:
1%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
 187    10049120 536549944         18  0.15%  0.17%  0.15%   0 fw_lcp
process

XY#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
  CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                   2                   2% /  0%             1%
1%


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:achatz at forthnet.gr] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:13 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?

Anyone running SXI with a WS-X6724-SFP module (DFC or non DFC), showing
high cpu usage due to the fw_lcp process?


6500#remote command module 1 sh proc cpu sort | exc 0.00

CPU utilization for five seconds: 32%/1%; one minute: 31%; five minutes:
31%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  187     1949496    613964       3175 31.19% 30.47% 30.45%   0 fw_lcp
process


6500#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
   CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                    1                  28% /  0%            28%
28%
                    6  RP               1% /  1%             1%
1%
                    6  SP              18% /  0%            15%
14%
6500#sh mod
Mod Ports Card Type                              Model
Serial No.
--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
-----------
   1   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP
XXXXXXXXXXX
   6    2  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)         WS-SUP720-3B
XXXXXXXXXXX


SXH, SXF do not seem to have this problem.

-- 
Tassos


From acm at axians.de  Thu Apr  2 08:25:51 2009
From: acm at axians.de (Cheikh-Moussa Ahmad)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:25:51 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 4948 MAX Arp entries
Message-ID: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658AF6@n120531.nknetworks.com>

Hi Guys,

I have searched a lot of sites and unfortunately didn't find a answer.
Can someone tell me, how much arp entries (adjacencies) a 4948 switch can handle ?
For L2 switching it can has up to 32K or the 4948-10g up to 55k entries, but I could not
find anything about the max arp entries. As far as I know this arp entries or adjacencies
are stored in TCAM. So the 4948 series can have 64k entries in the TCAM.

Am I right, when I say :
TCAM 64K =
32K IPv4 unicast routes
32K Unicast arp entries (adjacencies)

What about the acls and qos configuration ? These are also stored in TCAM, right ?
So if this right, then I never reach this, what I can found on the datasheets of the
switches :
* Unicast and multicast routing entries: 32,000
* Policers: 512 ingress and 512 egress
* Access control list (ACL) and QoS entries: 32,000

Could it be that all these features share the same TCAM ?
I'am little bit confused.

Regards,
 Ahmad




Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
Consultant
Business Unit Carrier & Service Provider

AXIANS
NK Networks & Services GmbH
Fischertwiete 2, Chilehaus A
20095 Hamburg

Tel.:  +49 40 237 899 - 72
Fax:   +49 40 237 899 - 69

Ahmad.cheikh-moussa at axians.de
Acheikh-moussa at axians.de
acm at axians.de
www.axians.com


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From peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz  Thu Apr  2 08:23:36 2009
From: peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz (Peter Nyamukusa)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:23:36 +0300 (EAT)
Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software
In-Reply-To: <cf9098540903310117l724411e8h89bc05630d076ab7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7988720.651238675012717.JavaMail.peter@petergunz>

Hi Gary, 
you can try this 

http://www.brownkid.net/NorthStar/ 

cheers, 

-- 


Peter Nyamukusa 

Technical Manager 
Africa Online (T) Ltd. 
Tel: +255 (22) 211 6090 
Fax:+255 (22) 211 6089 
Email: peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz 


A member of the Telkom South Africa Group 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Roberton" <gary.ciscomail at gmail.com> 
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:17:50 AM GMT +03:00 Iraq 
Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software 

Hello all 

What IP address management software do you use to control the allocation of 
subnets to your customers/department? 

Thanks 

Gary 
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From nockhi at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 10:14:58 2009
From: nockhi at gmail.com (Asif Gul Khan)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:14:58 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software
In-Reply-To: <7988720.651238675012717.JavaMail.peter@petergunz>
References: <cf9098540903310117l724411e8h89bc05630d076ab7@mail.gmail.com>
	<7988720.651238675012717.JavaMail.peter@petergunz>
Message-ID: <d788461b0904020714o42bd142ape12852eaa5636ea4@mail.gmail.com>

PHPIP works lyk charm for us...n the best part it..its an open source!

http://www.phpip.net/console.php




On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Peter Nyamukusa <
peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz> wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> you can try this
>
> http://www.brownkid.net/NorthStar/
>
> cheers,
>
> --
>
>
> Peter Nyamukusa
>
> Technical Manager
> Africa Online (T) Ltd.
> Tel: +255 (22) 211 6090
> Fax:+255 (22) 211 6089
> Email: peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz
>
>
> A member of the Telkom South Africa Group
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Roberton" <gary.ciscomail at gmail.com>
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:17:50 AM GMT +03:00 Iraq
> Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software
>
> Hello all
>
> What IP address management software do you use to control the allocation of
> subnets to your customers/department?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
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From chris at chrisserafin.com  Thu Apr  2 11:59:25 2009
From: chris at chrisserafin.com (ChrisSerafin)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:59:25 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] VRF-lite question on RD's
Message-ID: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>

I have 3 VRF's on a CE router:



ip vrf xxx-General
 rd 1:10
 route-target export 1:10
 route-target import 1:10
!
ip vrf xxx-Guest
 rd 1:30
 route-target export 1:30
 route-target import 1:30
!
ip vrf xxx-Voice
 rd 1:20
 route-target export 1:20
 route-target import 1:20

I just got 3 new VRF's from the ISP confgured, and I'm wondering what 
numbers I need to have for the 'rd' and 'route-target xxport' 
commands...? Are these arbitrary, come from the ISP, or can I just use 
40, 50, and 60?


Thanks,

chris



From bennetb at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 12:08:44 2009
From: bennetb at gmail.com (Brandon Bennett)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:08:44 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <20090402072423.GR51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
	<4422cf660904012310l1eb2839cx71c9d494eb85c9d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090402072423.GR51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
Message-ID: <d81b6b610904020908v1c358ff4i20d892a5f09fa79c@mail.gmail.com>

So anyone try out an ISSU upgrade from SXI to SXI1 yet?   I'd really like to
see if it works as advertised.

-Brandon

From bennetb at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 12:23:14 2009
From: bennetb at gmail.com (Brandon Bennett)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:23:14 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] VRF-lite question on RD's
In-Reply-To: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
References: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
Message-ID: <d81b6b610904020923w7e3f501bga72ab862d14aa38b@mail.gmail.com>

My guess is they are doing vrf-lite and using frame-relay or dot1q to bring
these 3 VRFs to you.  Which means the RD (used for MPLS L3VPNs) are only
locally significant in the case of vrf-lite and are arbitrary numbers.   It
would be nice if Cisco didn't require RD's for vrf-lite cause they service
no purpose.

Now the import and export statements in vrf-lite also serve no purpose, but
also not required.  Interesting that they exist in the config.

As long as no interfaces are configured with 'mpls ip'  and you don't have a
'address-family vpnv4' configured under BGP those values are meaningless
outside of the local router.

HTH,

Brandon

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:59 AM, ChrisSerafin <chris at chrisserafin.com> wrote:

> I have 3 VRF's on a CE router:
>
>
>
> ip vrf xxx-General
> rd 1:10
> route-target export 1:10
> route-target import 1:10
> !
> ip vrf xxx-Guest
> rd 1:30
> route-target export 1:30
> route-target import 1:30
> !
> ip vrf xxx-Voice
> rd 1:20
> route-target export 1:20
> route-target import 1:20
>
> I just got 3 new VRF's from the ISP confgured, and I'm wondering what
> numbers I need to have for the 'rd' and 'route-target xxport' commands...?
> Are these arbitrary, come from the ISP, or can I just use 40, 50, and 60?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> chris
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From oboehmer at cisco.com  Thu Apr  2 12:30:18 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:30:18 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] c3560, priv-lvl=15, authorization level problem
In-Reply-To: <49D47913.5020902@euroway.hu>
References: <49D47913.5020902@euroway.hu>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840727DD67@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

Hegedus Gabor <> wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:37:

> Hi all!
> 
> I have a problem:
> 
> I want use aaa authentication with radius in c3560, I try to
> authenticate my user to the priv level 15.
> The authentication is succes, but the user is just on the level 1.
> 
> radius send back the priv-lvl=15, I can see in the radius debug.
> 
> the configurations of the radius and the switch are correct, because 
> I have c2960 with the same configuration, and the priv-level 15
> authentication works on it.
> 
> here is my  config sample:
> 
> aaa authentication login method_line group rad_group local
> aaa authorization exec method_line if-authenticated group rad_group

why do you use if-authenticated before radius? if-authenticated method
succeeds if the user is authenticated, so it doesn't even bother
checking radius attributes for authorization information. Please try

aaa authorization exec method_line group rad_group if-authenticated 
 or
aaa authorization exec method_line group rad_group local

whatever fallback method you want to use..

	oli

From sthaug at nethelp.no  Thu Apr  2 12:30:52 2009
From: sthaug at nethelp.no (sthaug at nethelp.no)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:30:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [c-nsp] VRF-lite question on RD's
In-Reply-To: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
References: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
Message-ID: <20090402.183052.112623136.sthaug@nethelp.no>

> I just got 3 new VRF's from the ISP confgured, and I'm wondering what 
> numbers I need to have for the 'rd' and 'route-target xxport' 
> commands...? Are these arbitrary, come from the ISP, or can I just use 
> 40, 50, and 60?

As long as you're using VRF-lite and not full MPLS, they are arbitrary
in the sense that they're not part of any protocol between you and the
ISP.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug at nethelp.no

From oboehmer at cisco.com  Thu Apr  2 12:32:16 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:32:16 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VRF-lite question on RD's
In-Reply-To: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
References: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840727DD6C@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

ChrisSerafin <> wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2009 17:59:

> I have 3 VRF's on a CE router:
> 
> 
> 
> ip vrf xxx-General
>  rd 1:10
>  route-target export 1:10
>  route-target import 1:10
> !
> ip vrf xxx-Guest
>  rd 1:30
>  route-target export 1:30
>  route-target import 1:30
> !
> ip vrf xxx-Voice
>  rd 1:20
>  route-target export 1:20
>  route-target import 1:20
> 
> I just got 3 new VRF's from the ISP confgured, and I'm wondering what
> numbers I need to have for the 'rd' and 'route-target xxport'
> commands...? Are these arbitrary, come from the ISP, or can I just use
> 40, 50, and 60?

In a vrf-lite environment, RDs are local to the router, so you can pick
any (as long as it's unique on the router). you only need route-target
if you're running BGP on the node to leak routes from one VRF to
another.. doesn't look  like you're doing any leaking, so I don't think
you need any route-targets 

	oli

From chris at chrisserafin.com  Thu Apr  2 12:32:16 2009
From: chris at chrisserafin.com (ChrisSerafin)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:32:16 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] VRF-lite question on RD's
In-Reply-To: <d81b6b610904020923w7e3f501bga72ab862d14aa38b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
	<d81b6b610904020923w7e3f501bga72ab862d14aa38b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49D4E890.1010108@chrisserafin.com>

I spoke too soon. I found this right after posting 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst4500/12.1/20ew/configuration/guide/vrf.pdf

Switch(config-vrf)# rd
route-distinguisher
Creates a VRF table by specifying a route distinguisher.
Enter either an AS number and an arbitrary number
(xxx:y) or an IP address and arbitrary number
(A.B.C.D:y).
Step 5 Switch(config-vrf)# route-target
{export | import | both}
route-target-ext-community
Creates a list of import, export, or import and export route
target communities for the specified VRF. Enter either an
AS system number and an arbitrary number (xxx:y) or an
IP address and an arbitrary number (A.B.C.D:y).
Note This command is effective only if BGP is running.
Step 6 Switch(config-vrf)# import map
route-map
(Optional) Associates a route map with the VRF.


I just added different numbers and they came right up.

THANKS!



Brandon Bennett wrote:
> My guess is they are doing vrf-lite and using frame-relay or dot1q to 
> bring these 3 VRFs to you.  Which means the RD (used for MPLS L3VPNs) 
> are only locally significant in the case of vrf-lite and are arbitrary 
> numbers.   It would be nice if Cisco didn't require RD's for vrf-lite 
> cause they service no purpose.
>
> Now the import and export statements in vrf-lite also serve no 
> purpose, but also not required.  Interesting that they exist in the 
> config.
>
> As long as no interfaces are configured with 'mpls ip'  and you don't 
> have a 'address-family vpnv4' configured under BGP those values are 
> meaningless outside of the local router.
>
> HTH,
>
> Brandon
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:59 AM, ChrisSerafin <chris at chrisserafin.com 
> <mailto:chris at chrisserafin.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have 3 VRF's on a CE router:
>
>
>
>     ip vrf xxx-General
>     rd 1:10
>     route-target export 1:10
>     route-target import 1:10
>     !
>     ip vrf xxx-Guest
>     rd 1:30
>     route-target export 1:30
>     route-target import 1:30
>     !
>     ip vrf xxx-Voice
>     rd 1:20
>     route-target export 1:20
>     route-target import 1:20
>
>     I just got 3 new VRF's from the ISP confgured, and I'm wondering
>     what numbers I need to have for the 'rd' and 'route-target xxport'
>     commands...? Are these arbitrary, come from the ISP, or can I just
>     use 40, 50, and 60?
>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     chris
>
>
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From chris at chrisserafin.com  Thu Apr  2 12:36:59 2009
From: chris at chrisserafin.com (ChrisSerafin)
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 11:36:59 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] VRF-lite question on RD's
In-Reply-To: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840727DD6C@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
References: <49D4E0DD.1050904@chrisserafin.com>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840727DD6C@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <49D4E9AB.90206@chrisserafin.com>

Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote:
> ChrisSerafin <> wrote on Thursday, April 02, 2009 17:59:
>
>   
>> I have 3 VRF's on a CE router:
>>
>>
>>
>> ip vrf xxx-General
>>  rd 1:10
>>  route-target export 1:10
>>  route-target import 1:10
>> !
>> ip vrf xxx-Guest
>>  rd 1:30
>>  route-target export 1:30
>>  route-target import 1:30
>> !
>> ip vrf xxx-Voice
>>  rd 1:20
>>  route-target export 1:20
>>  route-target import 1:20
>>
>> I just got 3 new VRF's from the ISP confgured, and I'm wondering what
>> numbers I need to have for the 'rd' and 'route-target xxport'
>> commands...? Are these arbitrary, come from the ISP, or can I just use
>> 40, 50, and 60?
>>     
>
> In a vrf-lite environment, RDs are local to the router, so you can pick
> any (as long as it's unique on the router). you only need route-target
> if you're running BGP on the node to leak routes from one VRF to
> another.. doesn't look  like you're doing any leaking, so I don't think
> you need any route-targets 
>
> 	oli
>   
Excellent explanation, thank you!




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From rshughes at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 14:09:35 2009
From: rshughes at gmail.com (Ryan Hughes)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 14:09:35 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <d81b6b610904020908v1c358ff4i20d892a5f09fa79c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
	<4422cf660904012310l1eb2839cx71c9d494eb85c9d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090402072423.GR51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
	<d81b6b610904020908v1c358ff4i20d892a5f09fa79c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e44f1b0e0904021109y66a5d584ka6381185b4084bae@mail.gmail.com>

I believe that SXI introduces eFSU and not ISSU - which requires a linecard
reload if the line card is not supported.
 *
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/configuration/guide/issu_efsu.html

The following modules support eFSU preload:

?WS-X67*xx* modules

?SIP-400 and SIP-600

 I think we're still waiting on ISSU which is curiously not mentioned in the
SXI1 release notes - maybe still on the dev/bug table? But I'm with Brandon
- anyone give it a go yet?

Ryan

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Brandon Bennett <bennetb at gmail.com> wrote:

> So anyone try out an ISSU upgrade from SXI to SXI1 yet?   I'd really like
> to
> see if it works as advertised.
>
> -Brandon
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From A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk  Thu Apr  2 17:07:46 2009
From: A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk (A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:07:46 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] SXI1 is out
In-Reply-To: <d81b6b610904020908v1c358ff4i20d892a5f09fa79c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49D37F19.4060201@forthnet.gr>
	<20090402025756.GE2351@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
	<4422cf660904012310l1eb2839cx71c9d494eb85c9d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090402072423.GR51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
	<d81b6b610904020908v1c358ff4i20d892a5f09fa79c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090402210746.GB23687@lboro.ac.uk>

Hi,
> So anyone try out an ISSU upgrade from SXI to SXI1 yet?   I'd really like to
> see if it works as advertised.

hmmm, good call - I may have to check this out as when we
did our SXF and SXH to SXI upgrade it thought it had been done
via ISSU (why? dont know - hopefully fixed in SXI1 !) and
therefore borked our dual sup720 setups which led to 3 other
issues.

alan

From tvarriale at comcast.net  Thu Apr  2 18:58:41 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 17:58:41 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu><1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain><D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl><20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de><37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01>
	<49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
Message-ID: <4340918886AC4B07AD08DC4DE8A740E0@flamdt01>

Sure.

You can reload certain members too.

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Kell" <jeff-kell at utc.edu>
To: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net>; "'NSP List'" 
<cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?


> Tony Varriale wrote:
>> But, you can upgrade separate 3750 members and do one switch at a time 
>> today.
>
> You can?  Doesn't the "reload" crash the whole stack?
>
> Jeff 


From James.Baker at chelmer.co.nz  Thu Apr  2 19:10:05 2009
From: James.Baker at chelmer.co.nz (James Baker)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:10:05 +1300
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <4340918886AC4B07AD08DC4DE8A740E0@flamdt01>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu><1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain><D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl><20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de><37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de><2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01><49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
	<4340918886AC4B07AD08DC4DE8A740E0@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <64396C74FCE435468BE2AF5A73F9C2FDCE07A3@chmaexch.chelmer.co.nz>

ime

reload on the master does the whole stack
reload on the slave does the slave
reload slot X does the slot (if done on the master will only take down
the master)



-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tony Varriale
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 11:59 a.m.
To: 'NSP List'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?

Sure.

You can reload certain members too.

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Kell" <jeff-kell at utc.edu>
To: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net>; "'NSP List'" 
<cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?


> Tony Varriale wrote:
>> But, you can upgrade separate 3750 members and do one switch at a
time 
>> today.
>
> You can?  Doesn't the "reload" crash the whole stack?
>
> Jeff 

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From rshughes at gmail.com  Thu Apr  2 19:51:16 2009
From: rshughes at gmail.com (Ryan Hughes)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:51:16 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Redundant switch fabric
In-Reply-To: <49D259C1.3020901@usgs.gov>
References: <C5F7AAFA.31818%brhedlun@cisco.com> <49D24A2E.8010200@usgs.gov>
	<980303CA84BD4FAC978E53062A1EFE1A@flamdt01>
	<49D259C1.3020901@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <e44f1b0e0904021651j18ad6b8bsb430e6fda814b19e@mail.gmail.com>

To clarify the issue on the upgrade from 4.0.4 to 4.1.3 - there was more of
a "distribution" error in that the CMP module was shipped read-only.
Required assistance from a DE to resolve and work around which basically
involved flashing the rom to make it read-write and then I was able to
upgrade the CMP manually. This same problem appeared on a different and
separate customer's gear at roughly the same time. Required the same fix so
more than likely it was a "bad lot" type scenario.

Service impacting? Not at all.
Absolutely stupid and frustrating? Absolutely.

Ryan

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Justin C. Darby <jcdarby at usgs.gov> wrote:

> We had issues with 4.0(?) releases, mostly related to strange behavior of a
> few features (dhcp relay, DAI, port security, etc) that required a full
> reload after a software upgrade to clear up completely. 4.1(?) has been fine
> so far, and the last upgrade we did was 4.1(2) to 4.1(4) and it went through
> without any downtime. We skipped over 4.1(3) since we never got around to
> scheduling it.
>
> Justin
>
>
> Tony Varriale wrote:
>
>> I've had a colleague run into an issue going to 4.1.3 (long story but it's
>> intrusive either way you slice it and is how all boxes are).  What was your
>> upgrade from and to?
>>
>> tv
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin C. Darby" <jcdarby at usgs.gov>
>> To: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
>> Cc: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Redundant switch fabric
>>
>>
>>  Mike,
>>>
>>> Just to chime in here a bit with some experience - we've had Nexus 7K
>>> switch backplane modules fail - unless you are pushing near 100% backplane
>>> utilization you don't even notice until it emails you or your config
>>> monitoring program notices the failed module. In recent NX-OS releases, In
>>> Service Software Upgrades are working properly 100% of the time for us, and
>>> outside of the fact it can take 3-4 hours to upgrade a fully loaded switch,
>>> there's no real downtime if you've got working port redundancy across
>>> modules, and modules only go down one at a time like they're supposed to.
>>>
>>> Considering how distributed and redundant components of the switch are -
>>> it's pretty unlikely you'd run into huge redundancy problems with any single
>>> component. I don't have enough N7K's to play with Virtual Port Channels
>>> (vPCs), but it'd be interesting to see if they have any issues when
>>> upgrading switches. vPCs can add extreme (and usable) redundancy to
>>> multi-chassis design, if you want to go a step farther.
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> P.S. Comments made here are my own and should not in any way be
>>> considered an endorsement by the U.S. Federal Government.
>>>
>>> Brad Hedlund wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>> The 6500 and 4500 have the "switch fabric" on the supervisor engines, so
>>>> by
>>>> having dual supervisors, you in effect have a redundant fabric.
>>>>
>>>> The 6748 actually has 4 traces, each 20G.  2 traces connect to the
>>>> active
>>>> supervisor containing the active switch fabric.  The remaining 2 traces
>>>> are
>>>> standby connections to the standby supervisor/fabric.  So, when a
>>>> supervisor
>>>> engine and its fabric fails, the 2 standby traces are enabled and the
>>>> full
>>>> 40G of bandwidth remains.  You never, under normal circumstances, have
>>>> only
>>>> a single trace active on 6748.  Newer versions of IOS provide a "hot
>>>> standby" fabric feature which allows this fabric trace switch over to
>>>> happen
>>>> faster - roughly 50ms.
>>>>
>>>> For the best in redundant designs, consider the Nexus 7000, where the
>>>> switch
>>>> fabric is decoupled from the supervisor engines into a series redundant
>>>> "fabric modules" installed into the back of the switch.  Should a
>>>> supervisor
>>>> engine fail in Nexus 7000 there is ZERO impact to the switch fabric,
>>>> because
>>>> the supervisor engine does not forward data plane traffic.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Brad Hedlund
>>>> bhedlund at cisco.com
>>>> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/31/09 9:05 AM, "Mike Louis" <MLouis at nwnit.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I have a solution design that requires redundant switch fabrics. I am
>>>>> interpreting this beyond just have redundant supervisors meaning
>>>>> redundant
>>>>> backplanes on the switch cards. Do the 6500 and 4500 support redundant
>>>>> fabrics? Will a 6748 function with one trace failed?
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Thu Apr  2 20:20:28 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:20:28 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <4340918886AC4B07AD08DC4DE8A740E0@flamdt01>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01> <49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
	<4340918886AC4B07AD08DC4DE8A740E0@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <1238718028.6115.48.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 17:58 -0500, Tony Varriale wrote:
> Sure.
> 
> You can reload certain members too.

You can reload it yes, but you can't upgrade it during this reload. If a
member comes up with another version than the master it is either
automatically downgraded or placed in a disabled state.

And you can't reload the master without taking down the whole stack.

So you can't upgrade the stack w/o downtime. I really wish you could
though. :-(

Regards,
Peter



From tvarriale at comcast.net  Thu Apr  2 20:26:36 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:26:36 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01>
	<49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
	<4340918886AC4B07AD08DC4DE8A740E0@flamdt01>
	<1238718028.6115.48.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <B7F1A87F46DB4A54AA7579C4CB08360C@flamdt01>

You can reload the master without doing the whole stack.

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Rathlev" <peter at rathlev.dk>
To: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net>
Cc: "cisco-nsp" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?


> On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 17:58 -0500, Tony Varriale wrote:
>> Sure.
>> 
>> You can reload certain members too.
> 
> You can reload it yes, but you can't upgrade it during this reload. If a
> member comes up with another version than the master it is either
> automatically downgraded or placed in a disabled state.
> 
> And you can't reload the master without taking down the whole stack.
> 
> So you can't upgrade the stack w/o downtime. I really wish you could
> though. :-(
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
>

From ray at oneunified.net  Thu Apr  2 22:46:16 2009
From: ray at oneunified.net (Ray Burkholder)
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:46:16 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Open Source solution to deploy a radius server against
	Cisco devices?
In-Reply-To: <49B65BBF.5000204@thingy.com>
References: <1236449092.8327.12.camel@dsba-ipso><49B336CE.3090608@umn.edu>	<60C56285-9584-478B-A7CD-C402CBF2ED82@Hughes.com.au>	<20090309090932.GB14149@lboro.ac.uk>	<1236594848.10690.1.camel@dsba-ipso><Pine.LNX.4.61.0903091911190.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
	<49B65BBF.5000204@thingy.com>
Message-ID: <A4F7F1EAFC9B4D67A5C2E4E507343E9C@oneunified.local>

> Jon Lewis wrote:
> > Another option is Cistron Radius 
> http://www.radius.cistron.nl/ which 
> > is probably going to be pretty similar to Freeradius, since 
> the latter 
> > is apparently a fork of the former.
> >
> > Radiator is perl, so you get the 'source code', but it's not open 
> > source and you do need to buy a license to use it.
> The perl aspect also makes it pretty easy to add new 
> functionality or backends too (assuming you have some perl 
> experience!) - we added some stuff to restrict what IP 
> addresses could appear in a Framed-IP-Address entry in about 
> an hour or so, for example.
> 

FreeRadius has an in-process perl module for handling authetication,
authorization, accouting pre and post processing.  By filling in the
skeleton, it is pretty easy to get customizations done.  I had to work a bit
with the radius.conf files to get things in the right order, but things
worked out nicely.  It provides a mechanism for returning customized vendor
attributes such as the Framed-IP-Address attribute.


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From ariemer at wesenergy.com.au  Fri Apr  3 00:50:03 2009
From: ariemer at wesenergy.com.au (Aaron Riemer)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:50:03 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
Message-ID: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1D55B@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>

Hey guys,
 
We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but I
was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could possibly
try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks, 
 
Aaron.

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From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Fri Apr  3 02:00:52 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 14:00:52 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] IS-IS LSP Generation/Expiry + Database Optimization -
	Issue - Update!
In-Reply-To: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED78406EFE053@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
References: <200902221357.04134.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
	<200902222330.46372.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED78406EFE053@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <200904031400.52618.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

Hi all.

So this turned out to be a bug with iSPF in IS-IS.

TAC have filed bug ID CSCsy75784.

Although first found in 12.2(33)SRC3, this issue affects all 
versions of SRC, SRD, as well as a few other trains.

Cheers,

Mark.
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Fri Apr  3 04:18:31 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:18:31 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750/3750E stack upgrade downtime?
In-Reply-To: <B7F1A87F46DB4A54AA7579C4CB08360C@flamdt01>
References: <49D1297B.2080106@utc.edu>
	<1238445916.4440.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<D1297168-1BF4-4A8C-AC48-E041AE7A0766@djvh.nl>
	<20090401081546.GE74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<37FF646A-6ED6-4331-9AF3-341953AB03B4@djvh.nl>
	<20090401214417.GL74388@ronin.4ever.de>
	<2F47563BDFE542548FB2A78C99E5723F@flamdt01> <49D3FB25.6050703@utc.edu>
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	<B7F1A87F46DB4A54AA7579C4CB08360C@flamdt01>
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On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 19:26 -0500, Tony Varriale wrote:
> You can reload the master without doing the whole stack.

Well, that would select a new master. And this new master has to be
running the same software version as the current master, otherwise it
would not be able to participate in the stack in the first place. The
unit undergoing a reload will not be able to join the stack if it comes
up with a new software version.

If you know a way of upgrading a 3750 stack without downtime I'd very
much like to know; it's a pain for us the way we do it now. :-)

Regards,
Peter



From jgiles at e-dialog.com  Fri Apr  3 08:27:10 2009
From: jgiles at e-dialog.com (Jason Giles)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:27:10 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?
In-Reply-To: <458B3EC21E4A3044998E917199AACB2F01A646D5@GNBEX02.gnb.ca>
References: <49D44972.9010202@forthnet.gr>
	<458B3EC21E4A3044998E917199AACB2F01A646D5@GNBEX02.gnb.ca>
Message-ID: <5A178C06739A4F4AA21613701E0AD440060C2E97@corp-exc2.ad.e-dialog.com>

Not seeing it with the DFC here and sup720-10g.

  2   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP
  2  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C  

#sho ver
Cisco IOS Software, s72033_rp Software
(s72033_rp-ADVIPSERVICESK9_WAN-M), Version 12.2(33)SXI, RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)   

CAT6509E-A.BO3#sho plat hardw capa cpu
CPU Resources
  CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                   2                   3% /  1%             5%
5%


CAT6509E-A.BO3#remote command module 2 sh proc cpu sort

CPU utilization for five seconds: 4%/1%; one minute: 5%; five minutes:
5%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
 192    55227132   1474322      37459  1.59%  1.55%  1.58%   0 Vlan
Statistics  
 238     8745604    741155      11800  0.55%  0.29%  0.29%   0 Hardware
API bac 
 200     8391396 270173484         31  0.39%  0.23%  0.21%   0 fw_lcp
process   




-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Munroe, James
(DSS/MAS)
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:43 AM
To: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?

I've got two 6509's with WS-X6724-SFP (w/ CFC) running SXI and I'm not
seeing that problem:

6509 #1:

XX#sh mod
Mod Ports Card Type                              Model
Serial No.
--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
-----------
  1   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP       

XX#remote command module 1 sh proc cpu sort

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes:
1%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
 187    13802188 547904699         25  0.15%  0.19%  0.18%   0 fw_lcp
process
   1           0         3          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Chunk
Manager
   2         204   1277786          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Load
Meter
   3           4    779932          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 MFI LFD
Timer Pr
   5           0        10          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IPC ISSU
Dispatc
   4           0        43          0  0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0
Retransmission o

XX#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
  CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                   1                   0% /  0%             1%
1%


6509 #2:

XY#remote command module 2 sh proc cpu sort

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes:
1%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
 187    10049120 536549944         18  0.15%  0.17%  0.15%   0 fw_lcp
process

XY#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
  CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                   2                   2% /  0%             1%
1%


Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:achatz at forthnet.gr] 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 2:13 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6724-SFP & SXI = high cpu usage?

Anyone running SXI with a WS-X6724-SFP module (DFC or non DFC), showing
high cpu usage due to the fw_lcp process?


6500#remote command module 1 sh proc cpu sort | exc 0.00

CPU utilization for five seconds: 32%/1%; one minute: 31%; five minutes:
31%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  187     1949496    613964       3175 31.19% 30.47% 30.45%   0 fw_lcp
process


6500#sh platform hardware capacity cpu
CPU Resources
   CPU utilization: Module             5 seconds       1 minute       5
minutes
                    1                  28% /  0%            28%
28%
                    6  RP               1% /  1%             1%
1%
                    6  SP              18% /  0%            15%
14%
6500#sh mod
Mod Ports Card Type                              Model
Serial No.
--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
-----------
   1   24  CEF720 24 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6724-SFP
XXXXXXXXXXX
   6    2  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)         WS-SUP720-3B
XXXXXXXXXXX


SXH, SXF do not seem to have this problem.

-- 
Tassos

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From paul at paulstewart.org  Fri Apr  3 09:03:07 2009
From: paul at paulstewart.org (Paul Stewart)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:03:07 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
Message-ID: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org>

On a peering session we started getting the following:

 

%BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: received from neighbor 198.32.XXX.XX 6/7 (cease) 0
bytes

 

This all started when we "upgraded" to 12.2(18)SXF16 it seems or at least
the timeline matches up..

 

So, I've discovered that 6/7 means "Connection collision resolution" - does
anyone know what that means in English? ;)  We have rebuilt our session and
the peer has done the same thing.  a Google search tells me what it means by
definition but no real solution.

 

Thanks,

 

Paul

 

 

 


From jloiacon at csc.com  Fri Apr  3 10:14:52 2009
From: jloiacon at csc.com (Joe Loiacono)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:14:52 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
In-Reply-To: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1D55B@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>
Message-ID: <OFF771CD4D.0D4C3A8F-ON8525758D.004C6657-8525758D.004E4537@csc.com>

If you want to go commercial, we use a software-as-a-service (SAAS) 
product called Gomez. You periodically contact your server from 
browser-client nodes on their backbone. You can also execute scripts from 
these nodes that will walk through your web-site in a pre-determined way. 

The pricing model is based on a 'cost per measurement' subscription where 
a measurement is an access of a web-site from a test node. If you do it 
hourly, that would be 24 per day, etc.

Joe




"Aaron Riemer" <ariemer at wesenergy.com.au> 
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04/03/2009 12:50 AM

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Subject
[c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server






Hey guys,
 
We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but I
was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could possibly
try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks, 
 
Aaron.

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From fweimer at bfk.de  Fri Apr  3 09:51:25 2009
From: fweimer at bfk.de (Florian Weimer)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:51:25 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org> (Paul Stewart's message of
	"Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:03:07 -0400")
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org>
Message-ID: <82vdplx2ua.fsf@mid.bfk.de>

* Paul Stewart:

> So, I've discovered that 6/7 means "Connection collision resolution" - does
> anyone know what that means in English? ;)

In general, it means that both peers successfully established a TCP
connection, and one connection was closed.  This happens from time to
time and does not indicate a problem.

(Or do you mean what it means for this specific IOS version?  Sorry,
in this case I have to pass.)

-- 
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BFK edv-consulting GmbH       http://www.bfk.de/
Kriegsstra?e 100              tel: +49-721-96201-1
D-76133 Karlsruhe             fax: +49-721-96201-99

From paul at paulstewart.org  Fri Apr  3 10:41:49 2009
From: paul at paulstewart.org (Paul Stewart)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:41:49 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <82vdplx2ua.fsf@mid.bfk.de>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org> <82vdplx2ua.fsf@mid.bfk.de>
Message-ID: <002201c9b46a$53146b70$f93d4250$@org>

Thanks.... what's happening (and perhaps I should have explained this a bit
better) is the session is starting to become established and then dropping.
This is repeated every 30-60 seconds over and over and the BGP session never
actually establishes.

Take care,

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Florian Weimer [mailto:fweimer at bfk.de] 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:51 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution

* Paul Stewart:

> So, I've discovered that 6/7 means "Connection collision resolution" -
does
> anyone know what that means in English? ;)

In general, it means that both peers successfully established a TCP
connection, and one connection was closed.  This happens from time to
time and does not indicate a problem.

(Or do you mean what it means for this specific IOS version?  Sorry,
in this case I have to pass.)

-- 
Florian Weimer                <fweimer at bfk.de>
BFK edv-consulting GmbH       http://www.bfk.de/
Kriegsstra?e 100              tel: +49-721-96201-1
D-76133 Karlsruhe             fax: +49-721-96201-99



From steve at ibctech.ca  Fri Apr  3 11:02:53 2009
From: steve at ibctech.ca (Steve Bertrand)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:02:53 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <002201c9b46a$53146b70$f93d4250$@org>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org> <82vdplx2ua.fsf@mid.bfk.de>
	<002201c9b46a$53146b70$f93d4250$@org>
Message-ID: <49D6251D.6090802@ibctech.ca>

Paul Stewart wrote:
> Thanks.... what's happening (and perhaps I should have explained this a bit
> better) is the session is starting to become established and then dropping.
> This is repeated every 30-60 seconds over and over and the BGP session never
> actually establishes.

Paul,

Does the session stabilize if you put one neighbor (at a time) into
passive mode?

Steve

From paul at paulstewart.org  Fri Apr  3 11:08:24 2009
From: paul at paulstewart.org (Paul Stewart)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:08:24 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <49D61683.3010100@utc.fr>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org> <49D61683.3010100@utc.fr>
Message-ID: <002301c9b46e$09940e70$1cbc2b50$@org>

Thank you - but what is the solution to my problem or is there one?  By the
sounds of it I need to change out the IOS to a new version....;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Fillot [mailto:cf at utc.fr] 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:01 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution

Paul Stewart wrote:

Hi,
> On a peering session we started getting the following:
>
>  
>
> %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: received from neighbor 198.32.XXX.XX 6/7 (cease) 0
> bytes
>
>  
>
> This all started when we "upgraded" to 12.2(18)SXF16 it seems or at least
> the timeline matches up..
>
>  
>
> So, I've discovered that 6/7 means "Connection collision resolution" -
does
> anyone know what that means in English? ;)  We have rebuilt our session
and
> the peer has done the same thing.  a Google search tells me what it means
by
> definition but no real solution.
>
>  
>   
 From RFC 4271:

6.8.  BGP Connection Collision Detection

   If a pair of BGP speakers try to establish a BGP connection with each
   other simultaneously, then two parallel connections well be formed.
   If the source IP address used by one of these connections is the same
   as the destination IP address used by the other, and the destination
   IP address used by the first connection is the same as the source IP
   address used by the other, connection collision has occurred.  In the
   event of connection collision, one of the connections MUST be closed.

[...]

   Closing the BGP connection (that results from the collision
   resolution procedure) is accomplished by sending the NOTIFICATION
   message with the Error Code Cease.



From vijay.ramcharan at verizonbusiness.com  Fri Apr  3 11:05:15 2009
From: vijay.ramcharan at verizonbusiness.com (Ramcharan, Vijay A)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:05:15 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
In-Reply-To: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1D55B@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>
Message-ID: <8171C8272CE8FE4A8F5BFF8A97CE6AB367068F@ASHEVS006.mcilink.com>

Aaron, I have not delved into EEM but from what I have read about it and
its support for TCL, it's entirely possible that you can: 

1) Create a TCL script to test your web server with a GET or other
method (see
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/interfaces_modules/services_modules/ace/
v3.00_A1/configuration/slb/guide/script.html
2) Read the response and perform the appropriate action with EEM (send
email, syslog etc)  

I don't know that such a solution exists already but I believe it is
certainly possible to do what you are asking, esp since it's only for
one server. 
 
Vijay Ramcharan 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Aaron Riemer
Sent: April 03, 2009 00:50
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server

Hey guys,
 
We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but I
was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could possibly
try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks, 
 
Aaron.

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From jloiacon at csc.com  Fri Apr  3 11:25:37 2009
From: jloiacon at csc.com (Joe Loiacono)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:25:37 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
In-Reply-To: <OFF771CD4D.0D4C3A8F-ON8525758D.004C6657-8525758D.004E4537@csc.com>
Message-ID: <OFF64E55D4.A47F387F-ON8525758D.0054619D-8525758D.0054BF14@csc.com>

Forgot to mention that you control everything from their web-site (hence 
SAAS) which makes it very easy. You could resell the service ...

http://www.gomez.com/




Joe Loiacono/CIV/CSC at CSC 
Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
04/03/2009 10:14 AM

To
"Aaron Riemer" <ariemer at wesenergy.com.au>
cc
cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net, cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject
Re: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server






If you want to go commercial, we use a software-as-a-service (SAAS) 
product called Gomez. You periodically contact your server from 
browser-client nodes on their backbone. You can also execute scripts from 
these nodes that will walk through your web-site in a pre-determined way. 

The pricing model is based on a 'cost per measurement' subscription where 
a measurement is an access of a web-site from a test node. If you do it 
hourly, that would be 24 per day, etc.

Joe




"Aaron Riemer" <ariemer at wesenergy.com.au> 
Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
04/03/2009 12:50 AM

To
<cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
cc

Subject
[c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server






Hey guys,
 
We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but I
was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could possibly
try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks, 
 
Aaron.

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From cf at utc.fr  Fri Apr  3 11:30:52 2009
From: cf at utc.fr (Christophe Fillot)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:30:52 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <002301c9b46e$09940e70$1cbc2b50$@org>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org> <49D61683.3010100@utc.fr>
	<002301c9b46e$09940e70$1cbc2b50$@org>
Message-ID: <49D62BAC.6090100@utc.fr>

Paul Stewart wrote:
> Thank you - but what is the solution to my problem or is there one?  By the
> sounds of it I need to change out the IOS to a new version....;)
>   
In theory this should resolve automatically, but it is abnormal if your 
session never establishes.
If this began to happen with 12.2(18)SXF16 and if there was no config 
change, I guess it is a problem with this specific IOS release.
What is the router on the remote side ?

From cf at utc.fr  Fri Apr  3 10:00:35 2009
From: cf at utc.fr (Christophe Fillot)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:00:35 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org>
Message-ID: <49D61683.3010100@utc.fr>

Paul Stewart wrote:

Hi,
> On a peering session we started getting the following:
>
>  
>
> %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: received from neighbor 198.32.XXX.XX 6/7 (cease) 0
> bytes
>
>  
>
> This all started when we "upgraded" to 12.2(18)SXF16 it seems or at least
> the timeline matches up..
>
>  
>
> So, I've discovered that 6/7 means "Connection collision resolution" - does
> anyone know what that means in English? ;)  We have rebuilt our session and
> the peer has done the same thing.  a Google search tells me what it means by
> definition but no real solution.
>
>  
>   
 From RFC 4271:

6.8.  BGP Connection Collision Detection

   If a pair of BGP speakers try to establish a BGP connection with each
   other simultaneously, then two parallel connections well be formed.
   If the source IP address used by one of these connections is the same
   as the destination IP address used by the other, and the destination
   IP address used by the first connection is the same as the source IP
   address used by the other, connection collision has occurred.  In the
   event of connection collision, one of the connections MUST be closed.

[...]

   Closing the BGP connection (that results from the collision
   resolution procedure) is accomplished by sending the NOTIFICATION
   message with the Error Code Cease.

From elmi at 4ever.de  Fri Apr  3 11:31:29 2009
From: elmi at 4ever.de (Elmar K. Bins)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:31:29 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Too dumb for SLB on ASR1Ks?
Message-ID: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>

Maybe someone can point me to a document that helps me through - or
Rodney cuts in and tells me it's a bug ;)

I have the following pretty simple (stripped down) configuration
which does work on a 7201 and does not work on the ASR1000...

(Yes, on the ASR the interface has 0/0/0 instead of 0/0 *g*)

7201 image is 12.4(4)XD10 IPBase

ASR1K image is a derivative of 12.2(33)XNB (experimental version with a bugfix)
Tests with standard 12.2(33)XNB1 failed as well.
Feature set is AdvancedEnterpriseK9 on the ASR.
If there's a hint that work has been done on SLB in newer
releases, I'm willing to try that...

Any idea very much appreciated here - I'm pretty much stuck
and am not sure whether I'm looking at my stupidity or a bug.

Yours,
	Elmar.


================================================================

ip slb serverfarm FARM-DNS
 real 10.10.236.12
  inservice
!
ip slb vserver VS-DNS
 virtual 10.10.237.53 udp 53
 serverfarm FARM-DNS
 sticky 5
 idle 5
 delay 1
 inservice
!
ip slb vserver VS-DNS-TCP
 virtual 10.10.237.53 tcp dns
 serverfarm FARM-DNS
 sticky 10
 idle 10
 inservice
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
 no ip address
 load-interval 30
 duplex auto
 speed auto
 media-type sfp
 negotiation auto
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.701
 encapsulation dot1Q 701
 ip address 10.10.235.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0.702
 encapsulation dot1Q 702
 ip address 10.10.236.1 255.255.255.0

================================================================

From paul at paulstewart.org  Fri Apr  3 12:02:13 2009
From: paul at paulstewart.org (Paul Stewart)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:02:13 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <49D62BAC.6090100@utc.fr>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org> <49D61683.3010100@utc.fr>
	<002301c9b46e$09940e70$1cbc2b50$@org> <49D62BAC.6090100@utc.fr>
Message-ID: <002a01c9b475$8e12a650$aa37f2f0$@org>

Thank you - unfortunately I do not know about the equipment on the other
side but it was working perfectly up til the IOS release.  This release also
seems to have reintroduced the ttl-security bug that was happening a couple
of releases back...;(  The folks on the other side of the link tell me I'm
the only peer they are experiencing this issue with...

Take care,

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Fillot [mailto:cf at utc.fr] 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:31 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution

Paul Stewart wrote:
> Thank you - but what is the solution to my problem or is there one?  By
the
> sounds of it I need to change out the IOS to a new version....;)
>   
In theory this should resolve automatically, but it is abnormal if your 
session never establishes.
If this began to happen with 12.2(18)SXF16 and if there was no config 
change, I guess it is a problem with this specific IOS release.
What is the router on the remote side ?



From ddunkin at netos.net  Fri Apr  3 16:09:51 2009
From: ddunkin at netos.net (Darryl Dunkin)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:09:51 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution
In-Reply-To: <002a01c9b475$8e12a650$aa37f2f0$@org>
References: <000c01c9b45c$88bbf4e0$9a33dea0$@org>
	<49D61683.3010100@utc.fr><002301c9b46e$09940e70$1cbc2b50$@org>
	<49D62BAC.6090100@utc.fr> <002a01c9b475$8e12a650$aa37f2f0$@org>
Message-ID: <56F5BC5F404CF84896C447397A1AAF20D19835@MAIL.nosi.netos.com>

Have you checked the capabilities being negotiated with that peer to see
if anything new was negotiated up after the change?

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 09:02
To: 'Christophe Fillot'
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution

Thank you - unfortunately I do not know about the equipment on the other
side but it was working perfectly up til the IOS release.  This release
also
seems to have reintroduced the ttl-security bug that was happening a
couple
of releases back...;(  The folks on the other side of the link tell me
I'm
the only peer they are experiencing this issue with...

Take care,

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Christophe Fillot [mailto:cf at utc.fr] 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:31 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP Cease - Connection collision resolution

Paul Stewart wrote:
> Thank you - but what is the solution to my problem or is there one?
By
the
> sounds of it I need to change out the IOS to a new version....;)
>   
In theory this should resolve automatically, but it is abnormal if your 
session never establishes.
If this began to happen with 12.2(18)SXF16 and if there was no config 
change, I guess it is a problem with this specific IOS release.
What is the router on the remote side ?


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From tdurack at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 16:14:40 2009
From: tdurack at gmail.com (Tim Durack)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 16:14:40 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] same-router tunnel loopback
Message-ID: <9e246b4d0904031314p5db46d44uf8dac478cc22ae05@mail.gmail.com>

Using a same-router tunnel loopback to move traffic between global and
vrf on a SUP720:

rtr-1#sh run int tun254
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 251 bytes
!
interface Tunnel254
 vrf forwarding v101
 ip address 10.1.0.254 255.255.255.254
 ip mtu 1500
 ipv6 address FE80:0:1970::254 link-local
 ipv6 address xxxx:0:1970::254/127
 ipv6 enable
 tunnel source Loopback254
 tunnel destination 169.254.0.255
end

rtr-1#sh run int tun255
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 230 bytes
!
interface Tunnel255
 ip address 10.1.0.255 255.255.255.254
 ip mtu 1500
 ipv6 address FE80:0:1970::255 link-local
 ipv6 address xxxx:0:1970::255/127
 ipv6 enable
 tunnel source Loopback255
 tunnel destination 169.254.0.254
end


Works for ipv4:

rtr-1#ping 10.1.0.254

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 10.1.0.254, timeout is 2 seconds:
!!!!!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 4/4/8 ms


But not ipv6:

rtr-1#ping ipv6 xxxx:0:1970::254

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to xxxx:0:1970::254, timeout is 2 seconds:
.....
Success rate is 0 percent (0/5)


What am I doing wrong?

From charles at thewybles.com  Fri Apr  3 17:01:08 2009
From: charles at thewybles.com (Charles Wyble)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:01:08 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
In-Reply-To: <OFF64E55D4.A47F387F-ON8525758D.0054619D-8525758D.0054BF14@csc.com>
References: <OFF64E55D4.A47F387F-ON8525758D.0054619D-8525758D.0054BF14@csc.com>
Message-ID: <49D67914.2000207@thewybles.com>

I would strongly recommend keynote over gomez. It's what a lot of folks 
use. Gomez has some interesting features, but I found them harder to 
work with.

Pingdom is also a popular choice.

Or you could just use nagios or other monitoring tools.... do you have 
any sort of network management/monitoring now? If so it's highly likely 
you can add a probe for an HTTP service.

In fact I wouldn't recommend testing from the router, as that may be a 
false positive (think someone changes an ACL and it's broken from 
everywhere but the router).

So often you will want monitoring of both the "front channel" and the 
"back channel".

Really don't know enough about your architecture to be sure. I'm basing 
this on the architecture I have used at multiple organizations, where 
one has a DMZ/Vlan and a management VLAN, with servers having a NIC in 
each.

Joe Loiacono wrote:
> Forgot to mention that you control everything from their web-site (hence 
> SAAS) which makes it very easy. You could resell the service ...
> 
> http://www.gomez.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joe Loiacono/CIV/CSC at CSC 
> Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> 04/03/2009 10:14 AM
> 
> To
> "Aaron Riemer" <ariemer at wesenergy.com.au>
> cc
> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net, cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject
> Re: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you want to go commercial, we use a software-as-a-service (SAAS) 
> product called Gomez. You periodically contact your server from 
> browser-client nodes on their backbone. You can also execute scripts from 
> these nodes that will walk through your web-site in a pre-determined way. 
> 
> The pricing model is based on a 'cost per measurement' subscription where 
> a measurement is an access of a web-site from a test node. If you do it 
> hourly, that would be 24 per day, etc.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Aaron Riemer" <ariemer at wesenergy.com.au> 
> Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> 04/03/2009 12:50 AM
> 
> To
> <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> cc
> 
> Subject
> [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hey guys,
>  
> We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
> server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
> an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but I
> was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could possibly
> try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
> statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
> monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  
> Thanks, 
>  
> Aaron.
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From justin at justinshore.com  Fri Apr  3 17:11:40 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:11:40 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Emulating the L2 aspect of VPLS with VRF-lite
Message-ID: <49D67B8C.9090204@justinshore.com>

Sorry for the length.  I have another Friday mind-bender.

We're going into an agreement with a new customer to replace their 
existing shared radio infrastructure with several bonded PtP DS1s at a 
number of sites and a DS3 at a main site.  The owner of the radios 
infrastructure currently places the WAN-facing interface of all of this 
customer's routers into a common VLAN (ie all WAN-facing routers have a 
connected route to a like interface on all other WAN routers).  The 
customer currently establishes IPSec-protected GRE tunnels from each 
router to every other router using the connected interfaces.  Then they 
run EIGRP over top of the GRE tunnels.  The radio links emulate the L2 
aspect of VPLS or an E-LAN service with that simple little VLAN.

I'm trying to do something similar with completely different hardware. 
I can't reach any of these sites with VLAN-capable hardware yet.  Most 
of the sites are getting several bonded DS1s.  One main site is getting 
a DS3 over Overture (Ethernet bridged over the DS3 and handed off as 
Ethernet on both ends; the 7206 gets it as a sub-int on a GigE port). 
My initial thought was to put each of the customer's MLPPP interfaces as 
well as the GigE sub-int for the Ethernet site into a VRF.  Each 
separate interface would be a /30 and I'd be a routed hop in the middle 
inside of their VRF (everything comes back ultimately to a single 7200). 
  They could tunnel across me if they wanted with a few additional 
statics to populate the RIB with next-hop information of the other 
routers.  I'm confident that this would work however I think there may 
be a better way that minimizes our potential involvement in the middle. 
  Thinking about it a bit more I decided that I could provide a L2 
service by making each of the MLPPP interfaces and the GigE sub-int 
unnumbered up to a common loopback.  Each customer WAN-facing interface 
would be addressed from a common subnet.  They should then also be able 
to directly communicate with one another across the loopback and 
establish routing adjacencies and/or build GRE tunnels with the hosts in 
that common connected route.

That's where I'm at right now.  I have 2 test routers with a DS1 bundle 
on each back to the 7200.  Each bundle is in the customer VRF.  I have 
another router doing Ethernet into a 4948 access switchport.  That 
unique VLAN gets trunked up to the 7200 on an on-board GigE interface. 
The corresponding sub-int on the 7200 is in the customer VRF and is 
unnumbered back to the dedicated customer loopback.  The only error I 
got in the process was when I did the unnumbered on the sub-int.

003018: Apr  3 13:15:29 CDT: %OSPF-4-NO_IPADDRESS_ON_INT: No IP address 
for interface GigabitEthernet0/2.1001

That's just OSPF whining and shouldn't be a problem.  I set up OSPF on 
all WAN-facing interfaces on the CE lab routers.  For grins I also set 
up OSPF inside the VRF on the PE.  I can ping between the DS1 routers 
and the 7200.  However I can not ping the Ethernet CE router from 
anywhere.  I also can not establish OSPF adjacencies between any of the 
CEs or the PE.  Debugging the OSPF packets I see packets going out from 
the CEs but nothing coming in.  From the PE I see nothing at all.

Should this ip unnumbered design work?  Any idea what's dropping the 
OSPF packets along the way?

I'm working on the problem while typing this and I have an update on 
what I wrote above.  I now have OSPF adjacencies between the DS1 CPEs 
and the 7200.  It turns out I needed to put the MLPPP interface into the 
VRF as well even though the ip unnumbered interface as in the VRF 
already.  However this points out a problem.  I am unable to establish 
an adjacency between the DS1 CPEs.  The CPEs only claim to see OSPF 
packets from the 7200.  Is that normal?  I also just noticed that I can 
no longer ping between DS1 CPEs.  I'm not sure if this isn't being 
consistent or I should call it a day.

I should be able to do the VRF with the L3 hop in the middle if nothing 
else.  I'd rather that be my fall-back position though.  Any other 
suggestions on how to accomplish this would be much appreciated.  I'm 
sure there are other ways to do something similar.

Thanks
  Justin



From illcritikz at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 19:37:24 2009
From: illcritikz at gmail.com (Ben Steele)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:07:24 +1030
Subject: [c-nsp] Too dumb for SLB on ASR1Ks?
In-Reply-To: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
References: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <4422cf660904031637x7b694144h4159cf61e2dd4ab6@mail.gmail.com>

What part exactly doesn't work? just the load balancing? do you have IP
connectivity ok to your real servers? how is that virtual IP being sent to
the box? it's not listed anywhere in your configuration on how 10.10.237.x
gets to the box.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Elmar K. Bins <elmi at 4ever.de> wrote:

> Maybe someone can point me to a document that helps me through - or
> Rodney cuts in and tells me it's a bug ;)
>
> I have the following pretty simple (stripped down) configuration
> which does work on a 7201 and does not work on the ASR1000...
>
> (Yes, on the ASR the interface has 0/0/0 instead of 0/0 *g*)
>
> 7201 image is 12.4(4)XD10 IPBase
>
> ASR1K image is a derivative of 12.2(33)XNB (experimental version with a
> bugfix)
> Tests with standard 12.2(33)XNB1 failed as well.
> Feature set is AdvancedEnterpriseK9 on the ASR.
> If there's a hint that work has been done on SLB in newer
> releases, I'm willing to try that...
>
> Any idea very much appreciated here - I'm pretty much stuck
> and am not sure whether I'm looking at my stupidity or a bug.
>
> Yours,
>        Elmar.
>
>
> ================================================================
>
> ip slb serverfarm FARM-DNS
>  real 10.10.236.12
>  inservice
> !
> ip slb vserver VS-DNS
>  virtual 10.10.237.53 udp 53
>  serverfarm FARM-DNS
>  sticky 5
>  idle 5
>  delay 1
>  inservice
> !
> ip slb vserver VS-DNS-TCP
>  virtual 10.10.237.53 tcp dns
>  serverfarm FARM-DNS
>  sticky 10
>  idle 10
>  inservice
> !
> interface GigabitEthernet0/0
>  no ip address
>  load-interval 30
>  duplex auto
>  speed auto
>  media-type sfp
>  negotiation auto
> !
> interface GigabitEthernet0/0.701
>  encapsulation dot1Q 701
>  ip address 10.10.235.1 255.255.255.0
> !
> interface GigabitEthernet0/0.702
>  encapsulation dot1Q 702
>  ip address 10.10.236.1 255.255.255.0
>
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From danletkeman at gmail.com  Fri Apr  3 21:10:09 2009
From: danletkeman at gmail.com (Dan Letkeman)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:10:09 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] aironet disable ssid when no lan connection
Message-ID: <dcbb85870904031810i2874382byc1dc6c4c2816f286@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Is there a command on an 1131ag aironet ap that allows you to disable
the ssid broadcast if there is no lan connection to the ap?

Thanks,
Dan.

From mhuff at ox.com  Sat Apr  4 00:30:37 2009
From: mhuff at ox.com (Matthew Huff)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:30:37 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] aironet disable ssid when no lan connection
In-Reply-To: <dcbb85870904031810i2874382byc1dc6c4c2816f286@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5FC5AAD.5DB0%mhuff@ox.com>

Will "station-role root access-point fallback track fa 0"  under the radio interface work for you?


On 4/3/09 9:10 PM, "Dan Letkeman" <danletkeman at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

Is there a command on an 1131ag aironet ap that allows you to disable
the ssid broadcast if there is no lan connection to the ap?

Thanks,
Dan.
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From gert at greenie.muc.de  Sat Apr  4 04:56:52 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:56:52 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] same-router tunnel loopback
In-Reply-To: <9e246b4d0904031314p5db46d44uf8dac478cc22ae05@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e246b4d0904031314p5db46d44uf8dac478cc22ae05@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090404085652.GR290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 04:14:40PM -0400, Tim Durack wrote:
> Using a same-router tunnel loopback to move traffic between global and
> vrf on a SUP720:

One small but essential bit is missing: what IOS version?  Are you sure
the IOS you use supports IPv6 VRF (this was added MUCH later than IPv4 VRF)?

(Maybe it's just the /127 - try with /124 or /64, just to be sure)

gert
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From elmi at 4ever.de  Sat Apr  4 07:02:47 2009
From: elmi at 4ever.de (Elmar K. Bins)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:02:47 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Too dumb for SLB on ASR1Ks?
In-Reply-To: <4422cf660904031637x7b694144h4159cf61e2dd4ab6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
	<4422cf660904031637x7b694144h4159cf61e2dd4ab6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090404110247.GB29526@ronin.4ever.de>

illcritikz at gmail.com (Ben Steele) wrote:

> What part exactly doesn't work? just the load balancing? do you have IP
> connectivity ok to your real servers? how is that virtual IP being sent to
> the box? it's not listed anywhere in your configuration on how 10.10.237.x
> gets to the box.

This is the lab setup; you can count on routing being alright - connectivity
among all parts of the setup is working, and I reconfigured the servers
myself (UNIX guys usually get netmasks etc. wrong *g*). You can also see
this from the drop-in replacement (7201) working perfectly in the setup.

The point is that the ASR receives the packets but doesn't push them on.
They do not appear in any statistics (SLB or port) and they do not appear
on the wire or on the target server.

There are two things that would help my cause, one being an idea whether
someone else successfully or unsuccessfully used SLB on ASRs (or the info
about serious trouble there). Then I'd like to compare configs; maybe I
forgot some magic word.

There is no documentation for SLB on IOS XE to be found, so I'd be happy
about pointers towards recipes or HowTos, since 7*** configs don't seem
to work - provided it's not some crazy bug that keeps the ASR from
pushing the packets on.

Thanks for any insight,
			Elmar.




> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Elmar K. Bins <elmi at 4ever.de> wrote:
> 
> > Maybe someone can point me to a document that helps me through - or
> > Rodney cuts in and tells me it's a bug ;)
> >
> > I have the following pretty simple (stripped down) configuration
> > which does work on a 7201 and does not work on the ASR1000...
> >
> > (Yes, on the ASR the interface has 0/0/0 instead of 0/0 *g*)
> >
> > 7201 image is 12.4(4)XD10 IPBase
> >
> > ASR1K image is a derivative of 12.2(33)XNB (experimental version with a
> > bugfix)
> > Tests with standard 12.2(33)XNB1 failed as well.
> > Feature set is AdvancedEnterpriseK9 on the ASR.
> > If there's a hint that work has been done on SLB in newer
> > releases, I'm willing to try that...
> >
> > Any idea very much appreciated here - I'm pretty much stuck
> > and am not sure whether I'm looking at my stupidity or a bug.
> >
> > Yours,
> >        Elmar.
> >
> >
> > ================================================================
> >
> > ip slb serverfarm FARM-DNS
> >  real 10.10.236.12
> >  inservice
> > !
> > ip slb vserver VS-DNS
> >  virtual 10.10.237.53 udp 53
> >  serverfarm FARM-DNS
> >  sticky 5
> >  idle 5
> >  delay 1
> >  inservice
> > !
> > ip slb vserver VS-DNS-TCP
> >  virtual 10.10.237.53 tcp dns
> >  serverfarm FARM-DNS
> >  sticky 10
> >  idle 10
> >  inservice
> > !
> > interface GigabitEthernet0/0
> >  no ip address
> >  load-interval 30
> >  duplex auto
> >  speed auto
> >  media-type sfp
> >  negotiation auto
> > !
> > interface GigabitEthernet0/0.701
> >  encapsulation dot1Q 701
> >  ip address 10.10.235.1 255.255.255.0
> > !
> > interface GigabitEthernet0/0.702
> >  encapsulation dot1Q 702
> >  ip address 10.10.236.1 255.255.255.0
> >
> > ================================================================


From jared at puck.nether.net  Sat Apr  4 08:27:30 2009
From: jared at puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:27:30 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] aironet disable ssid when no lan connection
In-Reply-To: <C5FC5AAD.5DB0%mhuff@ox.com>
References: <C5FC5AAD.5DB0%mhuff@ox.com>
Message-ID: <60BEAE40-CA38-4FAA-9ABE-BE72AC682402@puck.nether.net>

I'm guessing he wants:

AP1121-Attic(config-if)#station-role root fallback ?
   repeater  Become a repeater
   shutdown  Shutdown the radio

the 'shutdown' option.

	- Jared

On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:30 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:

> Will "station-role root access-point fallback track fa 0"  under the  
> radio interface work for you?
>
>
> On 4/3/09 9:10 PM, "Dan Letkeman" <danletkeman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there a command on an 1131ag aironet ap that allows you to disable
> the ssid broadcast if there is no lan connection to the ap?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan.
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From danletkeman at gmail.com  Sat Apr  4 14:36:33 2009
From: danletkeman at gmail.com (Dan Letkeman)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:36:33 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] aironet disable ssid when no lan connection
In-Reply-To: <C5FC5AAD.5DB0%mhuff@ox.com>
References: <dcbb85870904031810i2874382byc1dc6c4c2816f286@mail.gmail.com>
	<C5FC5AAD.5DB0%mhuff@ox.com>
Message-ID: <dcbb85870904041136r506646c6y27c4d6b31f94d3a4@mail.gmail.com>

I think the shutdown command would work.  Thanks!

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com> wrote:
> Will "station-role root access-point fallback track fa 0" ?under the radio interface work for you?
>
>
> On 4/3/09 9:10 PM, "Dan Letkeman" <danletkeman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Is there a command on an 1131ag aironet ap that allows you to disable
> the ssid broadcast if there is no lan connection to the ap?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan.
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From oboehmer at cisco.com  Sat Apr  4 14:51:34 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:51:34 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] L2TPv3 password keeps changing
In-Reply-To: <49D2AAE8.3030503@corp.sonic.net>
References: <44417CD2F19FEA4F885088340A71D33201B4F41D@mail.office.dansketelecom.com>
	<49D2AAE8.3030503@corp.sonic.net>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840727E3E7@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

I only found CSCso12545 (l2tp-class encrypted password recalculated
after every 'show run'), but without any resolution so far.. Feel free
to contact TAC.

	oli

Jared Gillis <> wrote on Wednesday, April 01, 2009 01:45:

> I'm seeing this behavior as well on a 7204VXR, and google only turns
> up two threads on c-nsp that have no replies.
> Is this expected? Is there a workaround?
> 
> Lars Lystrup Christensen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When configuring L2TPv3 on one of our routers, I've noticed that the
>> password keeps changing all the time, even tough the configuration
>> has not been altered. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The router is a 1811 running 12.4(6)T11 Advanced IP Services.
>> 
>> ______________________________________
>> 
>> Med venlig hilsen / Kind regards
>> 
>> Lars Lystrup Christensen
>> Director of Engineering, CCIE(tm) #20292
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

From oboehmer at cisco.com  Sat Apr  4 15:12:48 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:12:48 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] MTU settings on GSR linecard 3GE-GBIC-SC
In-Reply-To: <49D0C905.4030903@schlund.net>
References: <49D0C905.4030903@schlund.net>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840727E3EB@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

Jan Sandmaier <> wrote on Monday, March 30, 2009 15:29:

> Hi,
> 
> does anybody know the reason why I can configure a 9180 byte MTU on
> port 0 and 1 on a GSR 3-port Gigabit Ethernet port (3GE-GBIC-SC) but
> only 4470 byte on the third port. I use IOS 12.0(32)S12 and
> 12.0(31)S6. 

this is a hardware limitiation on the FPGA (limited RX Fifo buffers) on
this Engine2 LC. Max MTU on the third port depends on the settings on
the other two, so you can't even go up to 4470 if you set the first to
9k..

	oli

From tdurack at gmail.com  Sat Apr  4 19:29:02 2009
From: tdurack at gmail.com (Tim Durack)
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 19:29:02 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] same-router tunnel loopback
In-Reply-To: <20090404085652.GR290@greenie.muc.de>
References: <9e246b4d0904031314p5db46d44uf8dac478cc22ae05@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090404085652.GR290@greenie.muc.de>
Message-ID: <9e246b4d0904041629i7fd97176obf8097ee2b4d2390@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Gert Doering <gert at greenie.muc.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 04:14:40PM -0400, Tim Durack wrote:
>> Using a same-router tunnel loopback to move traffic between global and
>> vrf on a SUP720:
>
> One small but essential bit is missing: what IOS version?  Are you sure
> the IOS you use supports IPv6 VRF (this was added MUCH later than IPv4 VRF)?

SXI.

IPv6 AF works fine in the VRFs, just not across the tunnel.

> (Maybe it's just the /127 - try with /124 or /64, just to be sure)

That crossed my mind. Didn't try it yet.

Tim:>

From eng_mssk at hotmail.com  Sun Apr  5 05:40:34 2009
From: eng_mssk at hotmail.com (Mohammad Khalil)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 12:40:34 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] show inventory
Message-ID: <BLU102-W59C1AE96933357B6946BBBFA870@phx.gbl>


Hey all

i issue the command show inventory on some devices and no output is there and the other is ok

any ideas ?

_________________________________________________________________
More than messages?check out the rest of the Windows Live?.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/

From werner at trans.net  Sun Apr  5 07:44:42 2009
From: werner at trans.net (Werner Detter)
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:44:42 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] bgp_cpu2timeout and %LINK-4-NOMAC
In-Reply-To: <49C0EB08.8020604@trans.net>
References: <49C0EB08.8020604@trans.net>
Message-ID: <49D899AA.2020904@trans.net>

Hi,

> *Mar 18 11:35:04.091: bgp_cpu2timeout: seconds: 30000, slot: 3 for 5: 0% and 1: 0%
> *Mar 18 11:35:34.875: bgp_cpu2timeout: seconds: 30000, slot: 3 for 5: 0% and 1: 0%
>
> %LINK-4-NOMAC: A random default MAC address of 0000.0c82.a9fb has
>   been chosen.  Ensure that this address is unique, or specify MAC
>   addresses for commands (such as 'novell routing') that allow the
>   use of this address as a default

Messages gone since I've changed the 7206VXR-Chassis.

bye,
Werner

From raymondh.nsp at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 09:45:48 2009
From: raymondh.nsp at gmail.com (raymondh (NSP))
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:45:48 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] show inventory
In-Reply-To: <BLU102-W59C1AE96933357B6946BBBFA870@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU102-W59C1AE96933357B6946BBBFA870@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <06657F64-46A5-4F79-8337-EBE498AC74BA@gmail.com>

try this.

sh invent raw


--raymondh

On Apr 5, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Mohammad Khalil wrote:

>
> Hey all
>
> i issue the command show inventory on some devices and no output is  
> there and the other is ok
>
> any ideas ?
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
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From tedm at toybox.placo.com  Sun Apr  5 11:24:44 2009
From: tedm at toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 08:24:44 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
In-Reply-To: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1D55B@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>
References: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1D55B@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>
Message-ID: <49D8CD3C.1020709@toybox.placo.com>

Aaron Riemer wrote:
> Hey guys,
>  
> We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
> server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
> an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but I
> was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could possibly
> try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
> statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
> monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  

You won't get true monitoring unless you place 2 machines on the
outside and put a modem in one and run sendpage software on it - OR
use a commercial service.  I run paging software under FreeBSD
running on an old P200 machine.  I had to try several different
modems before getting one that worked right with the software.

The reason you need this is that if your Internet connection goes
down your router cannot page you that there's a problem.  The reason
you need 2 machines is that if one of the monitoring systems goes
offline.  In my setup both systems monitor each other.  I also monitor
a few major websites (google, etc.) to make sure we still have
connectivity.

The only problem I have now is when my cell phone battery dies. ;-)

Ted

From musmanashraf at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 13:59:02 2009
From: musmanashraf at gmail.com (M Usman Ashraf)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:59:02 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] CISCO ACS 4.2 command pattern matching
Message-ID: <9149d2410904051059u4a3d7d2h5894d495481be4e6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi List,

I have been testing pattern matching with ACS shell command auth sets and it
doesn't seem to work like the ACS documentation says.

Quote from the Cisco ACS user guide:

*For permit or deny command arguments, ACS applies pattern matching. That
is, the argument permit wid matches any argument that contains the string
wid. Thus, for example, permit wid would allow not only the argument wid but
also the arguments anywid and widget.*

*To limit the extent of pattern matching you can add the following
expressions:*

*? Dollarsign ($)*

*?Expresses that the argument must end with what has gone before. Thus
permit wid$ would match wid or anywid, but not widget.*

*? Caret (^)*

*?Expresses that the argument must begin with what follows. Thus permit ^wid
would match wid or widget, but not anywid. You can combine these expressions
to specify absolute matching. In the example given, you would use permit
^wid$ to ensure that only wid was permitted, and not anywid or widget.*

*To permit or deny commands that carry no arguments, you can use absolute
matching to specify the null argument condition. For example, you use permit
^$ to permit a command with no arguments. Alternatively, entering permit
<cr> has the same effect. You can use either method, with the Permit
Unmatched Args option unchecked, to match and, therefore, permit or deny
commands that have no agrument.*

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So from this I take that if I want to deny configuration of certain
interfaces say Loopback0, while allowing configuration of Loopback99, I
will, permit "interface" , with the sub-command arguments: permit*^Loopback99$
*,  unmatched commands are "deny" and "Permit Unmatched Args" is unchecked.

Thinking that would allow the command interface Loopback99 but actually the
"interface Loopback99" commands, fails authorization. On the other side, if
I permit *^Loopback* only, all loopbacks get permitted. It seems like the
"^" pattern matching works but the "$" doesn't. Anyone have any experience
with pattern matching that can help me out? --

Regards,

M Usman Ashraf

From peter at rathlev.dk  Sun Apr  5 15:40:09 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:40:09 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] CISCO ACS 4.2 command pattern matching
In-Reply-To: <9149d2410904051059u4a3d7d2h5894d495481be4e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9149d2410904051059u4a3d7d2h5894d495481be4e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1238960409.3675.16.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:59 +0500, M Usman Ashraf wrote:
> So from this I take that if I want to deny configuration of certain
> interfaces say Loopback0, while allowing configuration of Loopback99,
> I will, permit "interface" , with the sub-command arguments:
> permit*^Loopback99$*,  unmatched commands are "deny" and "Permit
> Unmatched Args" is unchecked.
> 
> Thinking that would allow the command interface Loopback99 but
> actually the "interface Loopback99" commands, fails authorization. On
> the other side, if I permit *^Loopback* only, all loopbacks get
> permitted. It seems like the "^" pattern matching works but the "$"
> doesn't. Anyone have any experience with pattern matching that can
> help me out? --

Your TACACS+ log should tell you the reason, even the ACS must have
one. ;-)

The reason could be that many end points add an explicit "<cr>" string
to the request. If that is the case you would have to allow this
instead:

permit "^Loopback99 <cr>$"

Regards,
Peter



From david at hughes.com.au  Sun Apr  5 20:00:06 2009
From: david at hughes.com.au (David Hughes)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:00:06 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Pseudowire and EtherChannel
In-Reply-To: <8cd002180904011535n13d9327w1e6ed31c5050e367@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8cd002180904011535n13d9327w1e6ed31c5050e367@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52F11FED-208A-4130-A744-2F8CC5970E4E@hughes.com.au>


We have Multi Gig etherchannel bundles being delivered over multiple  
port-based xconnects and it works just fine.  The only tricky bit is  
realising then you lose link at the far end (there's no link-loss  
signaling on the pw).  You'll need to run UDLD in aggressive mode so  
that a failed circuit is removed from the bundle.


David
...


On 02/04/2009, at 8:35 AM, Ozar wrote:

> Quick question on PS and EtherChannel.
>
> Lets say I have customer who needs 2 gig from A to Z that I am going  
> to
> transport by Pseudowire...
>
> Should I etherchannel the ports and make my xconnect in the Port  
> Channel
> interface, or just transport each gig interface separately, and  
> customer
> handles all the aggregation?


From ler762 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  5 22:58:56 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:58:56 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
In-Reply-To: <20090331201210.GF51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
References: <863386.41277.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<20090330151600.GA408@roxanne.org> <49D1BE37.8060402@skoal.name>
	<20090331074620.GV290@greenie.muc.de> <49D1CDD4.3080301@skoal.name>
	<20090331201210.GF51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904051958h6a401608mb0d0e69c45387fd8@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/31/09, Richard A Steenbergen <ras at e-gerbil.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote:
>
>> I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704
>> even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708
>> with 1:1 subscription.
>
> Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704
> with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress
> interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704
> in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference.
>
> It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is
> "those things have no buffers, buy a 6708".

We had a TAC case for input queue drops on a 6704 port - they told us
it's a hardware limitation.  When traffic is switched between two
ports leading to the same asic you're limited to about 8Gb per port.

Regards,
Lee

From asad747 at cyber.net.pk  Mon Apr  6 01:05:40 2009
From: asad747 at cyber.net.pk (Asad Ul-Islam)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:05:40 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] client mac address on LNS??
Message-ID: <003501c9b675$547f7d80$fd7e7880$@net.pk>

Dear Friends!

 

I have a setup in which DSL users connect to a LNS via L2TP. Everything is
working fine, however on LNS I am not receiving any MAC address for the DSL
Users( Type PPPoVPDN). This is my standard crucial requirement for
generating several reports for management purposes. 

 

Can someone tell me if it is possible to get Mac-address for the VPDN
users??? I am getting mac-address for PPPoE type users which are terminated
on my BRAS.

 

Attach is the debug output for both LNS and BRAS which shows that
mac-address field is missing in LNS output.

 

######### LNS output (domain stripping is used) ##########

 

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS(00001037): Send Access-Request to
10.10.10.10:3312 id 1645/44, len 123

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
[1]

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  User-Name           [1]   11  "testuser7"

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  User-Password       [2]   18  *

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port            [5]   6   370


Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Id         [87]  17
"Uniq-Sess-ID370"

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Connect-Info        [77]  9   "1920000"

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Type       [61]  6   Virtual
[5]

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
[2]

Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-IP-Address      [4]   6   1.1.1.1


Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Acct-Session-Id     [44]  18
"CAA36E5A00001058"

Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/44 10.10.10.10:3312,
Access-Accept, len 37

Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Class               [25]  5   

Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:   50 49 4E
[PIN]

Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
[2]

Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
[1]

Apr  6 04:31:47.100: RADIUS(00001038): Received from id 1645/45

Apr  6 04:31:47.100: VT[Vi3.1]:Request took 0 msec, 0 msec processing time

Apr  6 04:31:47.100: uid:371 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: Virtual interface
created for testuser7 at best-dsl bandwidth 1920 Kbps

Apr  6 04:31:47.100: Vi3.1 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: Virtual interface created
for testuser7 at best-dsl, bandwidth 1920 Kbps

Apr  6 04:31:47.100: Vi3.1 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: VPDN session up

Apr  6 04:31:47.220: RADIUS/ENCODE(00001038):Orig. component type = VPDN

 

 

Cisco-3845-L2TP-LNS#show users

 

  Interface    User               Mode         Idle     Peer Address

  Vi3.1        testuser7 at best-ds PPPoVPDN     -        1.1.1.233

 

######### BRAS output ##########

 

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS(00000009): Send Access-Request to
10.10.10.10:3312 id 1645/6, len 167

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  41  

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   35
"client-mac-address=000f.a392.4bef"

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
[1]

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  User-Name           [1]   11  "testuser6"

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  User-Password       [2]   18  *

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Type       [61]  6   Virtual
[5]

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  18  

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:   cisco-nas-port     [2]   12  "3/0/0/0.36"

*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  NAS-Port            [5]   6   805306404


*Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
[2]

*Mar  1 00:13:15.371: RADIUS:  NAS-IP-Address      [4]   6   1.1.1.1


*Mar  1 00:13:15.371: RADIUS:  Acct-Session-Id     [44]  29
"3/0/0/0.36_CAA3693A0000000E"

*Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/6 10.10.10.10:3312,
Access-Accept, len 37

*Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Class               [25]  5   

*Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:   50 49 4E
[PIN]

*Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
[2]

*Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
[1]

*Mar  1 00:13:15.523: RADIUS(00000009): Received from id 1645/6

*Mar  1 00:13:15.643: RADIUS/ENCODE(00000009):Orig. component type = PPoE

 

 

Cisc-3640-BRAS-And-L2TP-LAC#         show user

 

  Interface    User               Mode         Idle     Peer Address

  Vi2.1        testuser6          PPPoE        00:03:25 2.2.2.244

 

 

 

Best Regards,

 

Asad Ul-Islam



 


From farhan at cyber.net.pk  Mon Apr  6 03:28:45 2009
From: farhan at cyber.net.pk (Farhan Ali Khan)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:28:45 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software
In-Reply-To: <d788461b0904020714o42bd142ape12852eaa5636ea4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf9098540903310117l724411e8h89bc05630d076ab7@mail.gmail.com>
	<7988720.651238675012717.JavaMail.peter@petergunz>
	<d788461b0904020714o42bd142ape12852eaa5636ea4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ee01c9b689$51c1cd00$a370a3ca@IBMB733624712D>

Try the followings, 

1) http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/

2)
http://www.sofotex.com/IPMaster-:-IP-Address-Management-Software-download_L3
7927.html

Paid but awasome 
3)
http://www.manageengine.com/products/oputils/address-monitoring-tools.html


Regards
Farhan Ali Khan
 


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Peter Nyamukusa <
peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz> wrote:

> Hi Gary,
> you can try this
>
> http://www.brownkid.net/NorthStar/
>
> cheers,
>
> --
>
>
> Peter Nyamukusa
>
> Technical Manager
> Africa Online (T) Ltd.
> Tel: +255 (22) 211 6090
> Fax:+255 (22) 211 6089
> Email: peter.nyamukusa at africaonline.co.tz
>
>
> A member of the Telkom South Africa Group
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Roberton" <gary.ciscomail at gmail.com>
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:17:50 AM GMT +03:00 Iraq
> Subject: [c-nsp] IP Address management software
>
> Hello all
>
> What IP address management software do you use to control the 
> allocation of subnets to your customers/department?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From ariemer at wesenergy.com.au  Mon Apr  6 03:33:57 2009
From: ariemer at wesenergy.com.au (Aaron Riemer)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:33:57 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server
In-Reply-To: <49D8CD3C.1020709@toybox.placo.com>
References: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1D55B@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>
	<49D8CD3C.1020709@toybox.placo.com>
Message-ID: <0867622C64B50C4B878AB45C95F43F1106A1DA1F@MAILWA01.wesenergy.local>

Thanks for the tips guys.

Aaron.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at toybox.placo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, 5 April 2009 11:25 PM
To: Aaron Riemer
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Monitoring External Web Server

Aaron Riemer wrote:
> Hey guys,
>  
> We have a requirement to monitor the external availability of a web
> server that hangs off our ASA DMZ interface. I was thinking of running
> an IP SLA probe from our external router to test the web requests but
I
> was wondering if anyone had done something with EEM that could
possibly
> try to establish a TCP connection to the web server and report the
> statistics somehow. I don't want to place a machine outside for the
> monitoring so would prefer to do it from our router if possible.
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  

You won't get true monitoring unless you place 2 machines on the
outside and put a modem in one and run sendpage software on it - OR
use a commercial service.  I run paging software under FreeBSD
running on an old P200 machine.  I had to try several different
modems before getting one that worked right with the software.

The reason you need this is that if your Internet connection goes
down your router cannot page you that there's a problem.  The reason
you need 2 machines is that if one of the monitoring systems goes
offline.  In my setup both systems monitor each other.  I also monitor
a few major websites (google, etc.) to make sure we still have
connectivity.

The only problem I have now is when my cell phone battery dies. ;-)

Ted

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From mdado at Airspan.com  Mon Apr  6 04:00:20 2009
From: mdado at Airspan.com (Mohammed Dado)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:00:20 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] show inventory
In-Reply-To: <06657F64-46A5-4F79-8337-EBE498AC74BA@gmail.com>
References: <BLU102-W59C1AE96933357B6946BBBFA870@phx.gbl>
	<06657F64-46A5-4F79-8337-EBE498AC74BA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F8E268BDCB43154D899169FE0378A55B231DCBF70F@fs23.airspan.com>

Also try this:

show inventory raw slot


Regards,
Mohammed Dado.


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of raymondh (NSP)
Sent: 05 April 2009 15:46
To: Mohammad Khalil
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] show inventory

try this.

sh invent raw


--raymondh

On Apr 5, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Mohammad Khalil wrote:

>
> Hey all
>
> i issue the command show inventory on some devices and no output is  
> there and the other is ok
>
> any ideas ?
>
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From eng_mssk at hotmail.com  Mon Apr  6 08:08:15 2009
From: eng_mssk at hotmail.com (Mohammad Khalil)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:08:15 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] show inventory
In-Reply-To: <F8E268BDCB43154D899169FE0378A55B231DCBF70F@fs23.airspan.com>
References: <BLU102-W59C1AE96933357B6946BBBFA870@phx.gbl>
	<06657F64-46A5-4F79-8337-EBE498AC74BA@gmail.com> 
	<F8E268BDCB43154D899169FE0378A55B231DCBF70F@fs23.airspan.com>
Message-ID: <BLU102-W529A87C2F9A58F698A8EB8FA840@phx.gbl>


the problem with the command show inventory or show inventory raw that its not supported on ever IOS images 

so there is show c7200 (For VXRs)

and show tech as well

show diag can be helpful as well

> From: mdado at Airspan.com
> To: raymondh.nsp at gmail.com; eng_mssk at hotmail.com
> CC: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:00:20 +0100
> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] show inventory
> 
> Also try this:
> 
> show inventory raw slot
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Mohammed Dado.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of raymondh (NSP)
> Sent: 05 April 2009 15:46
> To: Mohammad Khalil
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] show inventory
> 
> try this.
> 
> sh invent raw
> 
> 
> --raymondh
> 
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Mohammad Khalil wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hey all
> >
> > i issue the command show inventory on some devices and no output is  
> > there and the other is ok
> >
> > any ideas ?
> >
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From david.freedman at uk.clara.net  Mon Apr  6 09:12:14 2009
From: david.freedman at uk.clara.net (David Freedman)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:12:14 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Emulating the L2 aspect of VPLS with VRF-lite
In-Reply-To: <49D67B8C.9090204@justinshore.com>
References: <49D67B8C.9090204@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <49D9FFAE.10907@uk.clara.net>


>  Thinking about it a bit more I decided that I could provide a L2
> service by making each of the MLPPP interfaces and the GigE sub-int
> unnumbered up to a common loopback.  Each customer WAN-facing interface
> would be addressed from a common subnet.  They should then also be able
> to directly communicate with one another across the loopback and
> establish routing adjacencies and/or build GRE tunnels with the hosts in
> that common connected route.

Not quite sure how next-hop address resolution would work here, if you
expend the subnet masks such that all devices exist on the same subnet,
you will need some kind of address resolution to work, for instance, the
CPE on the DS1s will need to have a connected route to the subnet, the
7200 will have to have static routes (or IPCP learnt) to each endpoint
on the DS1s and also some kind of ARP for the HQ site.

I would personally go for the L3 (VRF) solution as it is simplest to
manage and troubleshoot, I would imagine it has about the same overhead
on the router as any L2 solution you could come up with using this 7200,

If you really want to do L2, consider bridging (IRB, but v.cpu
intensive) or l2connect with interworking between the MLPPP bundles and
sub-sub interfaces of the GigE, (I would imagine you can do QinQ on this
right?) if not consider dropping the Ethernet component and going for a
straight DS3 with frame PVCs.

This design of course requires that all traffic passes through the HQ site.

Dave.


> 
> That's where I'm at right now.  I have 2 test routers with a DS1 bundle
> on each back to the 7200.  Each bundle is in the customer VRF.  I have
> another router doing Ethernet into a 4948 access switchport.  That
> unique VLAN gets trunked up to the 7200 on an on-board GigE interface.
> The corresponding sub-int on the 7200 is in the customer VRF and is
> unnumbered back to the dedicated customer loopback.  The only error I
> got in the process was when I did the unnumbered on the sub-int.
> 
> 003018: Apr  3 13:15:29 CDT: %OSPF-4-NO_IPADDRESS_ON_INT: No IP address
> for interface GigabitEthernet0/2.1001
> 
> That's just OSPF whining and shouldn't be a problem.  I set up OSPF on
> all WAN-facing interfaces on the CE lab routers.  For grins I also set
> up OSPF inside the VRF on the PE.  I can ping between the DS1 routers
> and the 7200.  However I can not ping the Ethernet CE router from
> anywhere.  I also can not establish OSPF adjacencies between any of the
> CEs or the PE.  Debugging the OSPF packets I see packets going out from
> the CEs but nothing coming in.  From the PE I see nothing at all.
> 
> Should this ip unnumbered design work?  Any idea what's dropping the
> OSPF packets along the way?
> 
> I'm working on the problem while typing this and I have an update on
> what I wrote above.  I now have OSPF adjacencies between the DS1 CPEs
> and the 7200.  It turns out I needed to put the MLPPP interface into the
> VRF as well even though the ip unnumbered interface as in the VRF
> already.  However this points out a problem.  I am unable to establish
> an adjacency between the DS1 CPEs.  The CPEs only claim to see OSPF
> packets from the 7200.  Is that normal?  I also just noticed that I can
> no longer ping between DS1 CPEs.  I'm not sure if this isn't being
> consistent or I should call it a day.
> 
> I should be able to do the VRF with the L3 hop in the middle if nothing
> else.  I'd rather that be my fall-back position though.  Any other
> suggestions on how to accomplish this would be much appreciated.  I'm
> sure there are other ways to do something similar.
> 
> Thanks
>  Justin
> 
> 
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From david.freedman at uk.clara.net  Mon Apr  6 09:12:14 2009
From: david.freedman at uk.clara.net (David Freedman)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:12:14 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Emulating the L2 aspect of VPLS with VRF-lite
In-Reply-To: <49D67B8C.9090204@justinshore.com>
References: <49D67B8C.9090204@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <49D9FFAE.10907@uk.clara.net>


>  Thinking about it a bit more I decided that I could provide a L2
> service by making each of the MLPPP interfaces and the GigE sub-int
> unnumbered up to a common loopback.  Each customer WAN-facing interface
> would be addressed from a common subnet.  They should then also be able
> to directly communicate with one another across the loopback and
> establish routing adjacencies and/or build GRE tunnels with the hosts in
> that common connected route.

Not quite sure how next-hop address resolution would work here, if you
expend the subnet masks such that all devices exist on the same subnet,
you will need some kind of address resolution to work, for instance, the
CPE on the DS1s will need to have a connected route to the subnet, the
7200 will have to have static routes (or IPCP learnt) to each endpoint
on the DS1s and also some kind of ARP for the HQ site.

I would personally go for the L3 (VRF) solution as it is simplest to
manage and troubleshoot, I would imagine it has about the same overhead
on the router as any L2 solution you could come up with using this 7200,

If you really want to do L2, consider bridging (IRB, but v.cpu
intensive) or l2connect with interworking between the MLPPP bundles and
sub-sub interfaces of the GigE, (I would imagine you can do QinQ on this
right?) if not consider dropping the Ethernet component and going for a
straight DS3 with frame PVCs.

This design of course requires that all traffic passes through the HQ site.

Dave.


> 
> That's where I'm at right now.  I have 2 test routers with a DS1 bundle
> on each back to the 7200.  Each bundle is in the customer VRF.  I have
> another router doing Ethernet into a 4948 access switchport.  That
> unique VLAN gets trunked up to the 7200 on an on-board GigE interface.
> The corresponding sub-int on the 7200 is in the customer VRF and is
> unnumbered back to the dedicated customer loopback.  The only error I
> got in the process was when I did the unnumbered on the sub-int.
> 
> 003018: Apr  3 13:15:29 CDT: %OSPF-4-NO_IPADDRESS_ON_INT: No IP address
> for interface GigabitEthernet0/2.1001
> 
> That's just OSPF whining and shouldn't be a problem.  I set up OSPF on
> all WAN-facing interfaces on the CE lab routers.  For grins I also set
> up OSPF inside the VRF on the PE.  I can ping between the DS1 routers
> and the 7200.  However I can not ping the Ethernet CE router from
> anywhere.  I also can not establish OSPF adjacencies between any of the
> CEs or the PE.  Debugging the OSPF packets I see packets going out from
> the CEs but nothing coming in.  From the PE I see nothing at all.
> 
> Should this ip unnumbered design work?  Any idea what's dropping the
> OSPF packets along the way?
> 
> I'm working on the problem while typing this and I have an update on
> what I wrote above.  I now have OSPF adjacencies between the DS1 CPEs
> and the 7200.  It turns out I needed to put the MLPPP interface into the
> VRF as well even though the ip unnumbered interface as in the VRF
> already.  However this points out a problem.  I am unable to establish
> an adjacency between the DS1 CPEs.  The CPEs only claim to see OSPF
> packets from the 7200.  Is that normal?  I also just noticed that I can
> no longer ping between DS1 CPEs.  I'm not sure if this isn't being
> consistent or I should call it a day.
> 
> I should be able to do the VRF with the L3 hop in the middle if nothing
> else.  I'd rather that be my fall-back position though.  Any other
> suggestions on how to accomplish this would be much appreciated.  I'm
> sure there are other ways to do something similar.
> 
> Thanks
>  Justin
> 
> 
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From rekordmeister at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 09:22:18 2009
From: rekordmeister at gmail.com (MKS)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:22:18 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and 10GbE SPA
Message-ID: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>

Hi There

According to cisco SIP-400 can
"Ability to run 4 GE line rate for 64-byte packets, and OC-48 line
rate for 48-byte packets for POS, HDLC, etc. with select services"
https://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8027c9e6.html

Can someone please clarify what exactly this means.

Also if I put a 10GbE SPA into a SIP-400 what is the expected
performance of that?

Thanks
//MKS

From jcartier at acs.on.ca  Mon Apr  6 10:28:09 2009
From: jcartier at acs.on.ca (Jeff Cartier)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:28:09 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3750 Dropping LDP
Message-ID: <BCD3E762F1767C42A5226BBACDE49BFBD3E7BC@loki.acs.local>

I've got a ME3750 in the field and it appears to be randomly dropping
LDP neighbors every few days.  Any have any experience using this
platform within a MPLS model?

 

Thanks!

 


From rick at woofpaws.com  Mon Apr  6 10:51:40 2009
From: rick at woofpaws.com (Rick Ernst)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 07:51:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
Message-ID: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>


The stars are starting to come into alignment and I'm about ready to
order equipment for a network refresh.

I currently have a edge/core/aggregation model with 7206VXR/NPE-G1 at the
edge, 7500/RSP16/GEIP+ in the core, and various aggregation devices from
5500/RSM to 7500/RSP8 and dialup, DSL, etc.  We are migrating from OC-3 to
GigE at our edge.

We currently push about 300mbs in each direction and that is expected to
grow by at least 100mbs this year.  The rate of growth has increased
dramatically.

I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of
7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with this
amount of load.

The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.  Almost
all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need
bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a variable
bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs granularity. 1,5, and
10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections exist with a
200Mbs pipe in process.

The only traffic management I have used in the past is Cisco's rate-limit,
and it is very CPU intensive.  I'm trying to find out if a Sup720/RSP720
can handle hundreds of interfaces, each being rate-limited in some manner.
 The Cisco data sheet is vague about "some features" and "QoS" in
hardware, but isn't specific about what features are in hardware.

Is the Sup720 (RSP720 a better answer?) sufficient?  Is traffic-management
in hardware, and should I be looking at rate-limit or some different
mechanism?

The network itself is otherwise pretty low-touch.  My intent is to "just
move the bits", but I also use uRPF with a BGP blackhole system for IDS.

Note: I'd like to keep as much of the equipment the same to simplify
sparing, configuration, etc.

Thanks!



From jlewis at lewis.org  Mon Apr  6 11:12:00 2009
From: jlewis at lewis.org (Jon Lewis)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:12:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
In-Reply-To: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Rick Ernst wrote:

> I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of
> 7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with this
> amount of load.

That really depends on the features you enable.  Try doing full netflow on 
a sup720 doing a few hundred mbit's of traffic, and they're suddenly not 
so mighty.

> The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.  Almost
> all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need
> bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a variable
> bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs granularity. 1,5, and
> 10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections exist with a
> 200Mbs pipe in process.

We've been using 3550's for years for this, as they have the ability to 
police in both directions, per port, at whatever granularity you like. 
The 3560, which was supposed to be an improvement/replacement for the 3550 
lost this ability, which really shocked me when I configured my first one.
It can do per-port output shaping, but the granularity kind of blows. 
You're limited to 1/N * port rate, where N is an integer from 0 to 65535. 
This gives plenty (actually a huge waste of range) of granularity at the 
low end of bandwidth, but at the high end, you're limited to full rate, 
50%, 33%, 25%, 20%, etc.  If I'm wrong here, I'd love to hear it and be 
told how to limit a 100mbit port to say 40mbit/s.

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From skeeve at eintellego.net  Mon Apr  6 11:16:39 2009
From: skeeve at eintellego.net (Skeeve Stevens)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 01:16:39 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Break out a VLAN from a QinQ?
Message-ID: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469DFF3@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>

Hey all,

Does Cisco have any switches which can:

a)      Break out a VLAN from within a QinQ trunk
b)      Renumber VLAN's pulled from such a trunk
c)      Renumber VLAN's in general

There seems to me such little info out there on QinQ!

...Skeeve

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From md at bts.sk  Mon Apr  6 12:11:17 2009
From: md at bts.sk (Marian =?utf-8?B?xI51cmtvdmnEjQ==?=)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:11:17 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
In-Reply-To: <dd5f2deb0904051958h6a401608mb0d0e69c45387fd8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <863386.41277.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<20090330151600.GA408@roxanne.org> <49D1BE37.8060402@skoal.name>
	<20090331074620.GV290@greenie.muc.de> <49D1CDD4.3080301@skoal.name>
	<20090331201210.GF51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
	<dd5f2deb0904051958h6a401608mb0d0e69c45387fd8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090406161117.GA56528@bts.sk>

On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 10:58:56PM -0400, Lee wrote:
> On 3/31/09, Richard A Steenbergen <ras at e-gerbil.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:01:24AM +0200, Gergely Antal wrote:
> >
> >> I meant that you can not push 40G out of a 6704
> >> even with a dfc attached to it.But you can do it with a 6708
> >> with 1:1 subscription.
> >
> > Worse, some days you can't even get 7G in from a single port on a 6704
> > with the other 3 ports unused. We routinely have problems with ingress
> > interface overruns or egress interface output queue overflows on 6704
> > in that traffic range, and DFC doesn't make any difference.
> >
> > It seems like it is head of line blocking, and TAC's only answer is
> > "those things have no buffers, buy a 6708".
> 
> We had a TAC case for input queue drops on a 6704 port - they told us
> it's a hardware limitation.  When traffic is switched between two
> ports leading to the same asic you're limited to about 8Gb per port.

???
This is definitely possible with 6704 and SXI:

TenGigabitEthernet2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:57
  Input queue: 0/2000/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  30 second input rate 9900042000 bits/sec, 137227 packets/sec
  30 second output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec

TenGigabitEthernet2/2 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:55
  Input queue: 0/2000/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  30 second input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  30 second output rate 9900041000 bits/sec, 137226 packets/sec

No single packet drop in 5 minutes, and the traffic is switched locally
in the ASIC -  not going out to fabric:

#show fabric utilization 
 slot    channel      speed    Ingress %     Egress %
    2          0        20G            0            0
    2          1        20G            0            0

This is on WS-SUP720-3B system with WS-X6704-10GE + WS-F6700-CFC.


    With kind regards,

           M.

From david.freedman at uk.clara.net  Mon Apr  6 12:15:16 2009
From: david.freedman at uk.clara.net (David Freedman)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:15:16 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Break out a VLAN from a QinQ?
In-Reply-To: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469DFF3@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469DFF3@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
Message-ID: <grd9ql$pig$1@ger.gmane.org>

Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Does Cisco have any switches which can:
> 
> a)      Break out a VLAN from within a QinQ trunk
> b)      Renumber VLAN's pulled from such a trunk

> c)      Renumber VLAN's in general

Vlan rewriting has been available for some time now, but alas, there are
many restrictions and these are h/w dependent (i.e one re-write map per
asic, not port)

If you have the cash to spare on 7600 and ES20/ES40/ES+ you can make use
 the "Carrier Ethernet" featureset
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/cether/configuration/guide/ce_mst_evc_bd_ps6922_TSD_Products_Configuration_Guide_Chapter.html)
to dynamically modify and steer frames as they arrive (think of it as a
kind of route-map , but for ethernet) , this is commonly referred to as
"EVC functionality" (EVC = Ethernet Virtual Circuit)

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/install_config/ES20_config_guide/SRD/baldcsm.html

provides a quick summary of this:

Router(config-if-srv)#rewrite ingress tag {push {dot1q vlan-id | dot1q
vlan-id second-dot1q vlan-id | dot1ad vlan-id dot1q vlan-id} | pop {1 |
2} | translate {1-to-1 {dot1q vlan-id | dot1ad vlan-id}| 2-to-1 dot1q
vlan-id | dot1ad vlan-id}| 1-to-2 {dot1q vlan-id second-dot1q vlan-id |
dot1ad vlan-id dot1q vlan-id} | 2-to-2 {dot1q vlan-id second-dot1q
vlan-id | dot1ad vlan-id dot1q vlan-id}} [symmetric]

Great syntax huh? :)

Dave.

> 
> There seems to me such little info out there on QinQ!
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
> --
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From p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk  Mon Apr  6 12:17:05 2009
From: p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk (Phil Mayers)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:17:05 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
In-Reply-To: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
Message-ID: <49DA2B01.3000608@imperial.ac.uk>

Rick Ernst wrote:
> The stars are starting to come into alignment and I'm about ready to
> order equipment for a network refresh.
> 
> I currently have a edge/core/aggregation model with 7206VXR/NPE-G1 at the
> edge, 7500/RSP16/GEIP+ in the core, and various aggregation devices from
> 5500/RSM to 7500/RSP8 and dialup, DSL, etc.  We are migrating from OC-3 to
> GigE at our edge.
> 
> We currently push about 300mbs in each direction and that is expected to
> grow by at least 100mbs this year.  The rate of growth has increased
> dramatically.
> 
> I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of
> 7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with this
> amount of load.
> 
> The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.  Almost
> all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need
> bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a variable
> bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs granularity. 1,5, and
> 10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections exist with a
> 200Mbs pipe in process.
> 
> The only traffic management I have used in the past is Cisco's rate-limit,
> and it is very CPU intensive.  I'm trying to find out if a Sup720/RSP720
> can handle hundreds of interfaces, each being rate-limited in some manner.
>  The Cisco data sheet is vague about "some features" and "QoS" in
> hardware, but isn't specific about what features are in hardware.
> 
> Is the Sup720 (RSP720 a better answer?) sufficient?  Is traffic-management
> in hardware, and should I be looking at rate-limit or some different
> mechanism?

QoS on the 6500/7600 platform is a pretty involved topic. You will want 
to read up on it carefully. See:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/ios/12.2SR/configuration/guide/qos.html

Assuming you're talking about "LAN" lincards e.g. 67xx series, then:

  * qos is done in hardware

  * the capabilities are reasonable, but limited and a bit complex 
because it's done in hardware

  * the capabilities depend on the exact model of linecard - some have 
fewer queues, smaller buffers, only 6708 support ingress DSCP mapping to 
queues etc.

In particular, you want to watch ingress rate limiting very carefully. 
My (limited) understanding is that it'll be tricky to do what you want.

From asturluismi at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 12:18:04 2009
From: asturluismi at gmail.com (luismi)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:18:04 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] EEM event-manager and "event none" question.
Message-ID: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>

I have this code...

event manager applet A-EU-UP
 event track 10 state up
 action 1.0 syslog msg "Track 10 Up. Houston we don't have a problem"
 action 2.0 cli command "enable"
 action 3.0 cli command "conf t"
 action 4.0 cli command "<some commands here>"

I tried to execute...
# event manager run  A-EU-UP
Embedded Event Manager policy EU-ACEL-BACKUP-OFF not registered with
event none Event Detector

What is the reason for that message?
Looks like the EEM code is not running.
As far as I can read at documentation found with google, I need "event
none" at the beginning of the applet, but, what is the reason for it?
When "event none" must be used?




From saku+cisco-nsp at ytti.fi  Mon Apr  6 12:24:00 2009
From: saku+cisco-nsp at ytti.fi (Saku Ytti)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:24:00 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
In-Reply-To: <20090406161117.GA56528@bts.sk>
References: <863386.41277.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<20090330151600.GA408@roxanne.org> <49D1BE37.8060402@skoal.name>
	<20090331074620.GV290@greenie.muc.de> <49D1CDD4.3080301@skoal.name>
	<20090331201210.GF51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
	<dd5f2deb0904051958h6a401608mb0d0e69c45387fd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090406161117.GA56528@bts.sk>
Message-ID: <20090406162400.GA16201@mx.ytti.net>

On (2009-04-06 18:11 +0200), Marian ?urkovi? wrote:

> > We had a TAC case for input queue drops on a 6704 port - they told us
> > it's a hardware limitation.  When traffic is switched between two
> > ports leading to the same asic you're limited to about 8Gb per port.
> 
> This is definitely possible with 6704 and SXI:

> TenGigabitEthernet2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
>   30 second input rate 9900042000 bits/sec, 137227 packets/sec
> TenGigabitEthernet2/2 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
>   30 second output rate 9900041000 bits/sec, 137226 packets/sec

When I tested it traffic inside single channel was worst 
alternative.

 3. Topologies used
   I used four different topologies:
   a) anritsu  --darkfibre--  ten7/1:7600:ten7/3  --darkfibre-- anritsu
   b) anritsu  --darkfibre--  ten7/1:7600:ten4/1  --darkfibre-- anritsu
   c) anritsu  --darkfibre--  ten7/1:7600:ten7/2  --darkfibre-- anritsu
   d) anr -dark- ten9/3:7600:ten9/2 -dwdm- ten4/1:7600:ten7/1 -dark- anr

 4. Pure IP performance
   4.1 no features configured, plain IP routing
   a) 67bytes and above is linerate in both directions
   b) 65bytes and above is linerate in both directions
   c) 64bytes does 87.5% of linerate, rate appraoches 100% as size grows,
      but is both bps and pps bound, so no configuration of packet size
      and interval got 100%.
   d) 67bytes and above is linerate in boh directions

This was in mid 2006 with 6704 and CFC running SRA. ACL's and Policers
didn't affect forwarding, uRPF did affect slightly.

-- 
  ++ytti

From rossella at chemeketa.edu  Mon Apr  6 12:22:08 2009
From: rossella at chemeketa.edu (Rossella Mariotti-Jones)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:22:08 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] two ISPs, two routers, one firewall - bgp question
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
Message-ID: <D63A25821E9AE349ADBAB6BB1F0A766C0CA81D7A@cccmail2.chemeketa.network>

Hello all, I have a question regarding this scenario:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configuration_example
09186a00800945bf.shtml#conf5

My R2 link to ISP is 100M
R1 link to ISP is a DS3

If my firewall has a default route of 192.168.21.2 and  I have a 10M
download going with AS300, my firewall is going to send out my traffic
through its default gateway which is 192.168.21.2, R2 knows through iBGP
that R1 is the best path to AS300, so it sends the traffic to R1,
traffic coming back goes through R1, R2, firewall to get to the client,
so basically in this case the link between my firewall and R2 is taken
up twice. Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks everyone in advance.

rossella

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jon Lewis
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:12 AM
To: Rick Ernst
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Rick Ernst wrote:

> I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of
> 7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with
this
> amount of load.

That really depends on the features you enable.  Try doing full netflow
on 
a sup720 doing a few hundred mbit's of traffic, and they're suddenly not

so mighty.

> The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.
Almost
> all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need
> bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a
variable
> bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs granularity. 1,5, and
> 10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections exist with
a
> 200Mbs pipe in process.

We've been using 3550's for years for this, as they have the ability to 
police in both directions, per port, at whatever granularity you like. 
The 3560, which was supposed to be an improvement/replacement for the
3550 
lost this ability, which really shocked me when I configured my first
one.
It can do per-port output shaping, but the granularity kind of blows. 
You're limited to 1/N * port rate, where N is an integer from 0 to
65535. 
This gives plenty (actually a huge waste of range) of granularity at the

low end of bandwidth, but at the high end, you're limited to full rate, 
50%, 33%, 25%, 20%, etc.  If I'm wrong here, I'd love to hear it and be 
told how to limit a 100mbit port to say 40mbit/s.

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From pl+list at pmacct.net  Mon Apr  6 11:45:43 2009
From: pl+list at pmacct.net (Paolo Lucente)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:45:43 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and 10GbE SPA
In-Reply-To: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090406154543.GA18747@london.pmacct.net>

Hi MKS,

the performance you get really depends on the average size
of the traffic mix you push through the card. The vendor is
providing you with the 64-bytes packets scenario, then the
scaling exercise to see whether it fits your scenario it's
up to you. Also translated you should certainly not expect
a SIP-400 to scale 10GE line-rate with an average traffic
size of 64 bytes.

If this is acceptable to your setup, then you just need to
find the average traffic size for the specific scenario with
some basic traffic analysis (NetFlow ?), see whether you fit,
take some margin (for all sort of inconveniences), etc.

Otherwise you might want to look at some different hardware
solution (SIP-600 ?).

Cheers,
Paolo


On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 01:22:18PM +0000, MKS wrote:
> Hi There
> 
> According to cisco SIP-400 can
> "Ability to run 4 GE line rate for 64-byte packets, and OC-48 line
> rate for 48-byte packets for POS, HDLC, etc. with select services"
> https://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8027c9e6.html
> 
> Can someone please clarify what exactly this means.
> 
> Also if I put a 10GbE SPA into a SIP-400 what is the expected
> performance of that?
> 
> Thanks
> //MKS


From rekordmeister at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 12:30:37 2009
From: rekordmeister at gmail.com (MKS)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:30:37 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and 10GbE SPA
In-Reply-To: <20090406154543.GA18747@london.pmacct.net>
References: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090406154543.GA18747@london.pmacct.net>
Message-ID: <fad2fb270904060930w75747d9ev832eae032be6b7d1@mail.gmail.com>

OK let me put it this way

Does someone know what to expect from this card  @ 1500byte packets or
some "standard" IMIX.
Does it matter if the interface is doing mpls or just IP?

Thanks

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Paolo Lucente <pl+list at pmacct.net> wrote:
> Hi MKS,
>
> the performance you get really depends on the average size
> of the traffic mix you push through the card. The vendor is
> providing you with the 64-bytes packets scenario, then the
> scaling exercise to see whether it fits your scenario it's
> up to you. Also translated you should certainly not expect
> a SIP-400 to scale 10GE line-rate with an average traffic
> size of 64 bytes.
>
> If this is acceptable to your setup, then you just need to
> find the average traffic size for the specific scenario with
> some basic traffic analysis (NetFlow ?), see whether you fit,
> take some margin (for all sort of inconveniences), etc.
>
> Otherwise you might want to look at some different hardware
> solution (SIP-600 ?).
>
> Cheers,
> Paolo
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 01:22:18PM +0000, MKS wrote:
>> Hi There
>>
>> According to cisco SIP-400 can
>> "Ability to run 4 GE line rate for 64-byte packets, and OC-48 line
>> rate for 48-byte packets for POS, HDLC, etc. with select services"
>> https://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8027c9e6.html
>>
>> Can someone please clarify what exactly this means.
>>
>> Also if I put a 10GbE SPA into a SIP-400 what is the expected
>> performance of that?
>>
>> Thanks
>> //MKS
>
>

From raymondh.nsp at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 12:31:05 2009
From: raymondh.nsp at gmail.com (raymondh (NSP))
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 00:31:05 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and 10GbE SPA
In-Reply-To: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AF4917E4-B0F3-4D57-ADA2-D95F4EF3CE17@gmail.com>

The SIP-400 supports up to 2.5G. (Other words 01 x STM-16 + some other  
low speed stuff)
Cheers.


--raymondh at home-zzz

On Apr 6, 2009, at 9:22 PM, MKS wrote:

> Hi There
>
> According to cisco SIP-400 can
> "Ability to run 4 GE line rate for 64-byte packets, and OC-48 line
> rate for 48-byte packets for POS, HDLC, etc. with select services"
> https://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8027c9e6.html
>
> Can someone please clarify what exactly this means.
>
> Also if I put a 10GbE SPA into a SIP-400 what is the expected
> performance of that?
>
> Thanks
> //MKS
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From musmanashraf at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 12:45:24 2009
From: musmanashraf at gmail.com (M Usman Ashraf)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:45:24 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] CISCO ACS 4.2 command pattern matching
In-Reply-To: <1238960409.3675.16.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <9149d2410904051059u4a3d7d2h5894d495481be4e6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1238960409.3675.16.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <9149d2410904060945n4b900cb6ua652c90b40ffbf5@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Peter.You were right, explicit "<cr>" was missing. It is ok now.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Peter Rathlev <peter at rathlev.dk> wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 22:59 +0500, M Usman Ashraf wrote:
> > So from this I take that if I want to deny configuration of certain
> > interfaces say Loopback0, while allowing configuration of Loopback99,
> > I will, permit "interface" , with the sub-command arguments:
> > permit*^Loopback99$*,  unmatched commands are "deny" and "Permit
> > Unmatched Args" is unchecked.
> >
> > Thinking that would allow the command interface Loopback99 but
> > actually the "interface Loopback99" commands, fails authorization. On
> > the other side, if I permit *^Loopback* only, all loopbacks get
> > permitted. It seems like the "^" pattern matching works but the "$"
> > doesn't. Anyone have any experience with pattern matching that can
> > help me out? --
>
> Your TACACS+ log should tell you the reason, even the ACS must have
> one. ;-)
>
> The reason could be that many end points add an explicit "<cr>" string
> to the request. If that is the case you would have to allow this
> instead:
>
> permit "^Loopback99 <cr>$"
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
>


-- 
Regards,

M Usman Ashraf

From achatz at forthnet.gr  Mon Apr  6 12:49:07 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:49:07 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] EEM event-manager and "event none" question.
In-Reply-To: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>
References: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>
Message-ID: <49DA3283.1030101@forthnet.gr>

Event none is used if you want to manually run the eem applet, like you tried to do.

In your case (i guess you need to test your applet), you can create a 2nd applet that uses event none and just sets the 
track 10 state to up (action 1.0 track set 10 state up).
That way you can run the 2nd applet manually which in turn should trigger the 1st applet to run automatically.
Just keep an eye on any other consequences this manual track state change might have on your router.

--
Tassos

luismi wrote on 06/04/2009 19:18:
> I have this code...
> 
> event manager applet A-EU-UP
>  event track 10 state up
>  action 1.0 syslog msg "Track 10 Up. Houston we don't have a problem"
>  action 2.0 cli command "enable"
>  action 3.0 cli command "conf t"
>  action 4.0 cli command "<some commands here>"
> 
> I tried to execute...
> # event manager run  A-EU-UP
> Embedded Event Manager policy EU-ACEL-BACKUP-OFF not registered with
> event none Event Detector
> 
> What is the reason for that message?
> Looks like the EEM code is not running.
> As far as I can read at documentation found with google, I need "event
> none" at the beginning of the applet, but, what is the reason for it?
> When "event none" must be used?
> 
> 
> 
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Mon Apr  6 12:52:22 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:52:22 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
Message-ID: <1239036742.4684.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 07:51 -0700, Rick Ernst wrote: 
> The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.
> Almost all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need
> bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a
> variable bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs granularity.
> 1,5, and 10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections
> exist with a 200Mbs pipe in process.

ES20 line cards for the 7600 might fit your purpose:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8057f3ad.html
http://tinyurl.com/3jc8mx

The hardware forwarding switches can't really shape very well on LAN
card interfaces. You can use token bucket policing, and the "SRR"
enabled interfaces can do some crude "timeslot" shaping, but real
buffered shaping isn't possible AFAIK.

On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:12 -0400, Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Rick Ernst wrote:
> > I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of
> > 7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with
> > this amount of load.
> 
> That really depends on the features you enable.  Try doing full
> netflow on a sup720 doing a few hundred mbit's of traffic, and they're
> suddenly not so mighty.

Sorry if I repeat myself, but I don't understand this problem. We export
netflow from Sup720-3Bs often carrying >1 Gbit/s and the processor
hardly seems to notice. And it's with an if-full flowmask. We're still
on SXF but I sincerely hope SXH/SXI behave the same way for us.

Am I missing something here?

Regards,
Peter





From rick at woofpaws.com  Mon Apr  6 12:54:31 2009
From: rick at woofpaws.com (Rick Ernst)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 09:54:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
Message-ID: <47617.69.30.17.85.1239036871.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>

On Mon, April 6, 2009 08:12, Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Rick Ernst wrote:
>
>> I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of
>> 7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with this
>> amount of load.
>
> That really depends on the features you enable.  Try doing full netflow on
> a sup720 doing a few hundred mbit's of traffic, and they're suddenly not
> so mighty.

Yikes!  Does DFC on the linecards mitigate this?  I'm also looking
specifically at the Sup720/MSFC3/PFC3BLX.


>> The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.  Almost
>> all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need
>> bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a
>> variable
>> bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs granularity. 1,5, and
>> 10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections exist with a
>> 200Mbs pipe in process.
>
> We've been using 3550's for years for this, as they have the ability to
> police in both directions, per port, at whatever granularity you like.
> The 3560, which was supposed to be an improvement/replacement for the 3550
> lost this ability, which really shocked me when I configured my first one.
> It can do per-port output shaping, but the granularity kind of blows.
> You're limited to 1/N * port rate, where N is an integer from 0 to 65535.
> This gives plenty (actually a huge waste of range) of granularity at the
> low end of bandwidth, but at the high end, you're limited to full rate,
> 50%, 33%, 25%, 20%, etc.  If I'm wrong here, I'd love to hear it and be
> told how to limit a 100mbit port to say 40mbit/s.


It looks like the 3550 has been EOLd for a couple of years.  Does the 3750
(non-Metro) or other comparable switch carry the same functionality?  Does
the switch itself need to be doing IP on the port to provide rate-liming? 
Input shaping is where my major concern is since these would be deployed
where traffic is heavily weighted on inbound (from-the-customer).


Thanks!


From ip at ioshints.info  Mon Apr  6 12:59:19 2009
From: ip at ioshints.info (Ivan Pepelnjak)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:59:19 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] EEM event-manager and "event none" question.
In-Reply-To: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>
References: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>
Message-ID: <006e01c9b6d9$07af0980$0a00000a@nil.si>

An EEM applet can be triggered only by a single condition. If you want to
trigger it from the command line (with the "event man run" command), it
cannot be triggered by anything else, so it must have "event none"
pseudo-trigger.

The "event none" is used to indicate that "no trigger" is actually what you
want to do (as opposed to "I forgot to specify the trigger").

Ivan
 
http://www.ioshints.info/about
http://blog.ioshints.info/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: luismi [mailto:asturluismi at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:18 PM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] EEM event-manager and "event none" question.
> 
> I have this code...
> 
> event manager applet A-EU-UP
>  event track 10 state up
>  action 1.0 syslog msg "Track 10 Up. Houston we don't have a problem"
>  action 2.0 cli command "enable"
>  action 3.0 cli command "conf t"
>  action 4.0 cli command "<some commands here>"
> 
> I tried to execute...
> # event manager run  A-EU-UP
> Embedded Event Manager policy EU-ACEL-BACKUP-OFF not 
> registered with event none Event Detector
> 
> What is the reason for that message?
> Looks like the EEM code is not running.
> As far as I can read at documentation found with google, I 
> need "event none" at the beginning of the applet, but, what 
> is the reason for it?
> When "event none" must be used?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


From ip at ioshints.info  Mon Apr  6 13:05:55 2009
From: ip at ioshints.info (Ivan Pepelnjak)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:05:55 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] two ISPs, two routers, one firewall - bgp question
In-Reply-To: <D63A25821E9AE349ADBAB6BB1F0A766C0CA81D7A@cccmail2.chemeketa.network>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com><Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
	<D63A25821E9AE349ADBAB6BB1F0A766C0CA81D7A@cccmail2.chemeketa.network>
Message-ID: <006f01c9b6d9$f3f50790$0a00000a@nil.si>

Outbound traffic traverses the DMZ segment twice (FW -> R2 -> R1).
Inbound traffic traverses the DMZ segment once (R2 -> FW).

The difference is that FW has no idea where to send the traffic (follows
default route), whereas R2 knows the internal network is reachable through
the FW.

Hope this helps
Ivan
 
http://www.ioshints.info/about
http://blog.ioshints.info/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rossella Mariotti-Jones [mailto:rossella at chemeketa.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:22 PM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] two ISPs, two routers, one firewall - bgp question
> 
> Hello all, I have a question regarding this scenario:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk365/technologies_configurati
> on_example
> 09186a00800945bf.shtml#conf5
> 
> My R2 link to ISP is 100M
> R1 link to ISP is a DS3
> 
> If my firewall has a default route of 192.168.21.2 and  I 
> have a 10M download going with AS300, my firewall is going to 
> send out my traffic through its default gateway which is 
> 192.168.21.2, R2 knows through iBGP that R1 is the best path 
> to AS300, so it sends the traffic to R1, traffic coming back 
> goes through R1, R2, firewall to get to the client, so 
> basically in this case the link between my firewall and R2 is 
> taken up twice. Am I understanding this correctly? Thanks 
> everyone in advance.
> 
> rossella
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jon Lewis
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:12 AM
> To: Rick Ernst
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
> 
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Rick Ernst wrote:
> 
> > I'm planning on collapsing the border/core into a pair of 
> > 7600/Sup720-3BXLs, and it looks like they will be almost idle with
> this
> > amount of load.
> 
> That really depends on the features you enable.  Try doing 
> full netflow on a sup720 doing a few hundred mbit's of 
> traffic, and they're suddenly not
> 
> so mighty.
> 
> > The problem I am running into is spec'ing the aggregation layer.
> Almost
> > all of our traffic is ethernet now, and all the interfaces need 
> > bi-drectional rate-limiting/traffic-shaping/policing.  We have a
> variable
> > bandwidth model and need to cap traffic at 1Mbs 
> granularity. 1,5, and 
> > 10Mbs connections are common, and 20,50,100Mbs connections 
> exist with
> a
> > 200Mbs pipe in process.
> 
> We've been using 3550's for years for this, as they have the 
> ability to police in both directions, per port, at whatever 
> granularity you like. 
> The 3560, which was supposed to be an improvement/replacement 
> for the 3550 lost this ability, which really shocked me when 
> I configured my first one.
> It can do per-port output shaping, but the granularity kind of blows. 
> You're limited to 1/N * port rate, where N is an integer from 
> 0 to 65535. 
> This gives plenty (actually a huge waste of range) of 
> granularity at the
> 
> low end of bandwidth, but at the high end, you're limited to 
> full rate, 50%, 33%, 25%, 20%, etc.  If I'm wrong here, I'd 
> love to hear it and be told how to limit a 100mbit port to 
> say 40mbit/s.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Jon Lewis                   |  I route
>   Senior Network Engineer     |  therefore you are
>   Atlantic Net                |
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> 


From musmanashraf at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 13:09:13 2009
From: musmanashraf at gmail.com (M Usman Ashraf)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 22:09:13 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] EEM event-manager and "event none" question.
In-Reply-To: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>
References: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso>
Message-ID: <9149d2410904061009x730a3788u68a687e6b0c19783@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

You have to use "event none", under "event manager applet A-EU-UP", if you
want to do so.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:18 PM, luismi <asturluismi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have this code...
>
> event manager applet A-EU-UP
>  event track 10 state up
>  action 1.0 syslog msg "Track 10 Up. Houston we don't have a problem"
>  action 2.0 cli command "enable"
>  action 3.0 cli command "conf t"
>  action 4.0 cli command "<some commands here>"
>
> I tried to execute...
> # event manager run  A-EU-UP
> Embedded Event Manager policy EU-ACEL-BACKUP-OFF not registered with
> event none Event Detector
>
> What is the reason for that message?
> Looks like the EEM code is not running.
> As far as I can read at documentation found with google, I need "event
> none" at the beginning of the applet, but, what is the reason for it?
> When "event none" must be used?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Regards,

M Usman Ashraf

From asturluismi at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 13:10:58 2009
From: asturluismi at gmail.com (luismi)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:10:58 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] EEM event-manager and "event none" question.
In-Reply-To: <49DA3283.1030101@forthnet.gr>
References: <1239034684.13422.5.camel@dsba-ipso> <49DA3283.1030101@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <1239037858.13422.17.camel@dsba-ipso>

I just did a test right now.
The appelt is running ok without "event none" as expected, seems to be
that is monitoring the track 10 without more manual intervention as I
can see in the output of "sh track 10"



El lun, 06-04-2009 a las 19:49 +0300, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou escribi?:
> Event none is used if you want to manually run the eem applet, like you tried to do.
> 
> In your case (i guess you need to test your applet), you can create a 2nd applet that uses event none and just sets the 
> track 10 state to up (action 1.0 track set 10 state up).
> That way you can run the 2nd applet manually which in turn should trigger the 1st applet to run automatically.
> Just keep an eye on any other consequences this manual track state change might have on your router.
> 
> --
> Tassos
> 
> luismi wrote on 06/04/2009 19:18:
> > I have this code...
> > 
> > event manager applet A-EU-UP
> >  event track 10 state up
> >  action 1.0 syslog msg "Track 10 Up. Houston we don't have a problem"
> >  action 2.0 cli command "enable"
> >  action 3.0 cli command "conf t"
> >  action 4.0 cli command "<some commands here>"
> > 
> > I tried to execute...
> > # event manager run  A-EU-UP
> > Embedded Event Manager policy EU-ACEL-BACKUP-OFF not registered with
> > event none Event Detector
> > 
> > What is the reason for that message?
> > Looks like the EEM code is not running.
> > As far as I can read at documentation found with google, I need "event
> > none" at the beginning of the applet, but, what is the reason for it?
> > When "event none" must be used?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
> > 


From tdurack at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 16:02:20 2009
From: tdurack at gmail.com (Tim Durack)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:02:20 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] same-router tunnel loopback
In-Reply-To: <9e246b4d0904041629i7fd97176obf8097ee2b4d2390@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e246b4d0904031314p5db46d44uf8dac478cc22ae05@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090404085652.GR290@greenie.muc.de>
	<9e246b4d0904041629i7fd97176obf8097ee2b4d2390@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9e246b4d0904061302l1f2c5ad7rec292c3b986052cd@mail.gmail.com>

>> (Maybe it's just the /127 - try with /124 or /64, just to be sure)

Tried a /112, same problem.

I wonder if the issue is recirculation. I already need "mls mpls
tunnel-recir" to support IPv4 traffic crossing the tunnel. Given that
IPv6 requires recirculation for regular forwarding, is there a limit
to the amount of recirc that can take place?

Perhaps I'm trying to do something weird that no one else has tried...

Tim:>

From lists at memetic.org  Mon Apr  6 16:18:23 2009
From: lists at memetic.org (Adam Armstrong)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:18:23 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] client mac address on LNS??
In-Reply-To: <003501c9b675$547f7d80$fd7e7880$@net.pk>
References: <003501c9b675$547f7d80$fd7e7880$@net.pk>
Message-ID: <49DA638F.6070106@memetic.org>

Why aren't you just using the username for accounting?
> Dear Friends!
>
>  
>
> I have a setup in which DSL users connect to a LNS via L2TP. Everything is
> working fine, however on LNS I am not receiving any MAC address for the DSL
> Users( Type PPPoVPDN). This is my standard crucial requirement for
> generating several reports for management purposes. 
>
>  
>
> Can someone tell me if it is possible to get Mac-address for the VPDN
> users??? I am getting mac-address for PPPoE type users which are terminated
> on my BRAS.
>
>  
>
> Attach is the debug output for both LNS and BRAS which shows that
> mac-address field is missing in LNS output.
>
>  
>
> ######### LNS output (domain stripping is used) ##########
>
>  
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS(00001037): Send Access-Request to
> 10.10.10.10:3312 id 1645/44, len 123
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  User-Name           [1]   11  "testuser7"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  User-Password       [2]   18  *
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port            [5]   6   370
>
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Id         [87]  17
> "Uniq-Sess-ID370"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Connect-Info        [77]  9   "1920000"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Type       [61]  6   Virtual
> [5]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-IP-Address      [4]   6   1.1.1.1
>
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Acct-Session-Id     [44]  18
> "CAA36E5A00001058"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/44 10.10.10.10:3312,
> Access-Accept, len 37
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Class               [25]  5   
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:   50 49 4E
> [PIN]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: RADIUS(00001038): Received from id 1645/45
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: VT[Vi3.1]:Request took 0 msec, 0 msec processing time
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: uid:371 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: Virtual interface
> created for testuser7 at best-dsl bandwidth 1920 Kbps
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: Vi3.1 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: Virtual interface created
> for testuser7 at best-dsl, bandwidth 1920 Kbps
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: Vi3.1 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: VPDN session up
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.220: RADIUS/ENCODE(00001038):Orig. component type = VPDN
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Cisco-3845-L2TP-LNS#show users
>
>  
>
>   Interface    User               Mode         Idle     Peer Address
>
>   Vi3.1        testuser7 at best-ds PPPoVPDN     -        1.1.1.233
>
>  
>
> ######### BRAS output ##########
>
>  
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS(00000009): Send Access-Request to
> 10.10.10.10:3312 id 1645/6, len 167
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  41  
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   35
> "client-mac-address=000f.a392.4bef"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  User-Name           [1]   11  "testuser6"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  User-Password       [2]   18  *
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Type       [61]  6   Virtual
> [5]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  18  
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:   cisco-nas-port     [2]   12  "3/0/0/0.36"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  NAS-Port            [5]   6   805306404
>
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.371: RADIUS:  NAS-IP-Address      [4]   6   1.1.1.1
>
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.371: RADIUS:  Acct-Session-Id     [44]  29
> "3/0/0/0.36_CAA3693A0000000E"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/6 10.10.10.10:3312,
> Access-Accept, len 37
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Class               [25]  5   
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:   50 49 4E
> [PIN]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.523: RADIUS(00000009): Received from id 1645/6
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.643: RADIUS/ENCODE(00000009):Orig. component type = PPoE
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Cisc-3640-BRAS-And-L2TP-LAC#         show user
>
>  
>
>   Interface    User               Mode         Idle     Peer Address
>
>   Vi2.1        testuser6          PPPoE        00:03:25 2.2.2.244
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Best Regards,
>
>  
>
> Asad Ul-Islam
>
>
>
>  
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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>   


From billw at waveform.net  Mon Apr  6 16:34:34 2009
From: billw at waveform.net (Bill Wichers)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:34:34 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
Message-ID: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>

I have a strange problem getting an Etherchannel link betweek a 7507 and
a Cat 4006. Basically everything works, but the two FE interfaces on the
7507 (both in the same VIP) keep dropping their "full-duplex" config and
reporting "unknown duplex" instead. Traffic works across the link, load
is about the same on both member links, only the weird duplex problem -
which is causing some errors to show on the port.

 

Config on the switch is very simple:

 

set port speed      2/1-2 100

set port duplex     2/1-2 full

 

set trunk 2/1  on dot1q 1-1005,1025-4094

set trunk 2/2  on dot1q 1-1005,1025-4094

set port channel 2/1-2 mode on

 

Just two FE interfaces in the group.

 

Config on the router isn't very complicated either:

 

interface Port-channel1

 no ip address

 load-interval 30

 hold-queue 150 in

!

interface FastEthernet1/0/0

 description EC to core switch 2/1

 no ip address

 channel-group 1

!

interface FastEthernet1/1/0

 description EC to core switch 2/2

 no ip address

 channel-group 1

!

 

There are a few virtual interfaces on the port-channel using 802.1q tags
and they all seem to work, they're setup the usual way of "port-channel
1.123 / encap dot1q 123 ... etc.

 

Router is running 12.2(6a), cat is running 8.4(8)GLX. There is no fancy
L3 blade in the cat. It seems like the router is just loosing the
'full-duplex' part of the config of the two member links and aside from
that everything seems to work. Any ideas? 

 

   -Bill


From mksmith at adhost.com  Mon Apr  6 18:05:20 2009
From: mksmith at adhost.com (Michael K. Smith - Adhost)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:05:20 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] same-router tunnel loopback
In-Reply-To: <9e246b4d0904061302l1f2c5ad7rec292c3b986052cd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e246b4d0904031314p5db46d44uf8dac478cc22ae05@mail.gmail.com><20090404085652.GR290@greenie.muc.de><9e246b4d0904041629i7fd97176obf8097ee2b4d2390@mail.gmail.com>
	<9e246b4d0904061302l1f2c5ad7rec292c3b986052cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605D17479@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>



-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tim Durack
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:02 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Cc: Gert Doering
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] same-router tunnel loopback

>> (Maybe it's just the /127 - try with /124 or /64, just to be sure)

Tried a /112, same problem.

I wonder if the issue is recirculation. I already need "mls mpls
tunnel-recir" to support IPv4 traffic crossing the tunnel. Given that
IPv6 requires recirculation for regular forwarding, is there a limit
to the amount of recirc that can take place?

Perhaps I'm trying to do something weird that no one else has tried...


[Michael K. Smith - Adhost] 

Do you need the "tunnel mode ipv6ip" on the tunnel interface perhaps?

Regards,

Mike

From p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk  Mon Apr  6 18:45:18 2009
From: p.mayers at imperial.ac.uk (Phil Mayers)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 23:45:18 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Getting ready to pull the trigger: RSP720/SUP720
In-Reply-To: <1239036742.4684.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <46659.69.30.17.85.1239029500.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0904061059180.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
	<1239036742.4684.33.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090406224518.GA12346@wildfire.net.ic.ac.uk>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 05:52:22PM +0100, Peter Rathlev wrote:
>> > this amount of load.
>> 
>> That really depends on the features you enable.  Try doing full
>> netflow on a sup720 doing a few hundred mbit's of traffic, and they're
>> suddenly not so mighty.
>
>Sorry if I repeat myself, but I don't understand this problem. We export
>netflow from Sup720-3Bs often carrying >1 Gbit/s and the processor
>hardly seems to notice. And it's with an if-full flowmask. We're still
>on SXF but I sincerely hope SXH/SXI behave the same way for us.
>
>Am I missing something here?

I am assuming Jon has a lot of flows. We too run if-full on multiple 
tens of gigabits, with no issues (and on-3B, not XL), but I guess it 
depends on your traffic mix.

From ler762 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  6 19:47:11 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:47:11 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>

My experience has been that setting the speed and duplex on a catalyst
switch stops it from doing auto-negotiation.  So with the switch ports
set to 100/full I'd expect the 7500 ports to come up as 100/half.  But
we don't have any cat4006s at work.. I don't know if they do
auto-negotiation even if the port speed and duplex is configured,

Lee


On 4/6/09, Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net> wrote:
> I have a strange problem getting an Etherchannel link betweek a 7507 and
> a Cat 4006. Basically everything works, but the two FE interfaces on the
> 7507 (both in the same VIP) keep dropping their "full-duplex" config and
> reporting "unknown duplex" instead. Traffic works across the link, load
> is about the same on both member links, only the weird duplex problem -
> which is causing some errors to show on the port.
>
>
>
> Config on the switch is very simple:
>
>
>
> set port speed      2/1-2 100
>
> set port duplex     2/1-2 full
>
>
>
> set trunk 2/1  on dot1q 1-1005,1025-4094
>
> set trunk 2/2  on dot1q 1-1005,1025-4094
>
> set port channel 2/1-2 mode on
>
>
>
> Just two FE interfaces in the group.
>
>
>
> Config on the router isn't very complicated either:
>
>
>
> interface Port-channel1
>
>  no ip address
>
>  load-interval 30
>
>  hold-queue 150 in
>
> !
>
> interface FastEthernet1/0/0
>
>  description EC to core switch 2/1
>
>  no ip address
>
>  channel-group 1
>
> !
>
> interface FastEthernet1/1/0
>
>  description EC to core switch 2/2
>
>  no ip address
>
>  channel-group 1
>
> !
>
>
>
> There are a few virtual interfaces on the port-channel using 802.1q tags
> and they all seem to work, they're setup the usual way of "port-channel
> 1.123 / encap dot1q 123 ... etc.
>
>
>
> Router is running 12.2(6a), cat is running 8.4(8)GLX. There is no fancy
> L3 blade in the cat. It seems like the router is just loosing the
> 'full-duplex' part of the config of the two member links and aside from
> that everything seems to work. Any ideas?
>
>
>
>    -Bill
>
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From sf at lists.esoteric.ca  Mon Apr  6 21:12:11 2009
From: sf at lists.esoteric.ca (Stephen Fulton)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:12:11 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and 10GbE SPA
In-Reply-To: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49DAA86B.5070306@lists.esoteric.ca>

According to the SIP/SPA compatibility matrix:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/interfaces_modules/shared_port_adapters/install_upgrade/7600series/76intro.html#wp1131939

The SPA-1X10GE-L-V2 is compatible with SIP-400.

As always, verify with your Cisco SE.

-- Stephen

MKS wrote:
> Hi There
> 
> According to cisco SIP-400 can
> "Ability to run 4 GE line rate for 64-byte packets, and OC-48 line
> rate for 48-byte packets for POS, HDLC, etc. with select services"
> https://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8027c9e6.html
> 
> Can someone please clarify what exactly this means.
> 
> Also if I put a 10GbE SPA into a SIP-400 what is the expected
> performance of that?
> 
> Thanks
> //MKS
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From asad747 at cyber.net.pk  Mon Apr  6 23:49:35 2009
From: asad747 at cyber.net.pk (Asad Ul-Islam)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:49:35 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] client mac address on LNS??
In-Reply-To: <49DA638F.6070106@memetic.org>
References: <003501c9b675$547f7d80$fd7e7880$@net.pk>
	<49DA638F.6070106@memetic.org>
Message-ID: <001e01c9b733$de42baa0$9ac82fe0$@net.pk>

We do accounting on usernames obviously. But client-mac-address is our
policy requirement for generating certain security related reports.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Armstrong [mailto:lists at memetic.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 1:18 AM
To: Asad Ul-Islam
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] client mac address on LNS??

Why aren't you just using the username for accounting?
> Dear Friends!
>
>  
>
> I have a setup in which DSL users connect to a LNS via L2TP. Everything is
> working fine, however on LNS I am not receiving any MAC address for the
DSL
> Users( Type PPPoVPDN). This is my standard crucial requirement for
> generating several reports for management purposes. 
>
>  
>
> Can someone tell me if it is possible to get Mac-address for the VPDN
> users??? I am getting mac-address for PPPoE type users which are
terminated
> on my BRAS.
>
>  
>
> Attach is the debug output for both LNS and BRAS which shows that
> mac-address field is missing in LNS output.
>
>  
>
> ######### LNS output (domain stripping is used) ##########
>
>  
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS(00001037): Send Access-Request to
> 10.10.10.10:3312 id 1645/44, len 123
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  User-Name           [1]   11  "testuser7"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  User-Password       [2]   18  *
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port            [5]   6   370
>
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Id         [87]  17
> "Uniq-Sess-ID370"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Connect-Info        [77]  9   "1920000"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Type       [61]  6   Virtual
> [5]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  NAS-IP-Address      [4]   6   1.1.1.1
>
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.020: RADIUS:  Acct-Session-Id     [44]  18
> "CAA36E5A00001058"
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/44 10.10.10.10:3312,
> Access-Accept, len 37
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Class               [25]  5   
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:   50 49 4E
> [PIN]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> Apr  6 04:29:47.308: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: RADIUS(00001038): Received from id 1645/45
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: VT[Vi3.1]:Request took 0 msec, 0 msec processing time
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: uid:371 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: Virtual interface
> created for testuser7 at best-dsl bandwidth 1920 Kbps
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: Vi3.1 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: Virtual interface
created
> for testuser7 at best-dsl, bandwidth 1920 Kbps
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.100: Vi3.1 Tnl/Sn 58894/504 L2TP: VPDN session up
>
> Apr  6 04:31:47.220: RADIUS/ENCODE(00001038):Orig. component type = VPDN
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Cisco-3845-L2TP-LNS#show users
>
>  
>
>   Interface    User               Mode         Idle     Peer Address
>
>   Vi3.1        testuser7 at best-ds PPPoVPDN     -        1.1.1.233
>
>  
>
> ######### BRAS output ##########
>
>  
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS(00000009): Send Access-Request to
> 10.10.10.10:3312 id 1645/6, len 167
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  41  
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:   Cisco AVpair       [1]   35
> "client-mac-address=000f.a392.4bef"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  User-Name           [1]   11  "testuser6"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  User-Password       [2]   18  *
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  NAS-Port-Type       [61]  6   Virtual
> [5]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Vendor, Cisco       [26]  18  
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:   cisco-nas-port     [2]   12  "3/0/0/0.36"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  NAS-Port            [5]   6   805306404
>
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.367: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.371: RADIUS:  NAS-IP-Address      [4]   6   1.1.1.1
>
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.371: RADIUS:  Acct-Session-Id     [44]  29
> "3/0/0/0.36_CAA3693A0000000E"
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS: Received from id 1645/6 10.10.10.10:3312,
> Access-Accept, len 37
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Class               [25]  5   
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:   50 49 4E
> [PIN]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Service-Type        [6]   6   Framed
> [2]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.519: RADIUS:  Framed-Protocol     [7]   6   PPP
> [1]
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.523: RADIUS(00000009): Received from id 1645/6
>
> *Mar  1 00:13:15.643: RADIUS/ENCODE(00000009):Orig. component type = PPoE
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Cisc-3640-BRAS-And-L2TP-LAC#         show user
>
>  
>
>   Interface    User               Mode         Idle     Peer Address
>
>   Vi2.1        testuser6          PPPoE        00:03:25 2.2.2.244
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Best Regards,
>
>  
>
> Asad Ul-Islam
>
>
>
>  
>
> _______________________________________________
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>   


From tedm at toybox.placo.com  Tue Apr  7 01:11:23 2009
From: tedm at toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:11:23 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Router failure - config lost?
In-Reply-To: <49BE24F9.4010903@gmx.de>
References: <49BE24F9.4010903@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <49DAE07B.9080901@toybox.placo.com>

Garry wrote:
> Hi *
> 
> I've got something of a question that's not necessarily a clear
> technical problem or config problem ... rather just scoping as to
> whether other people have come across this, too ...
> 
> We have a customer who has some 400+ locations. All of these are
> connected to the central office via an MPLS-based network, using aDSL
> lines. Every location has an identical 876-W-G-E-k9 router, with (apart
> from DSL username and IP address) identical config. This network has now
> been in operation for something like 18 months, and is working nicely.
> 
> Now, on average 1-2 locations per month go down, losing DSL
> connectivity, and even a power-cycle and DSL port reset by the
> DSL-provider won't work, at which point we configure a replacement
> router and send it out. We usually get the defective router back for
> analysis, and apart from a hand full of cases in which the routers where
> physically damaged (lightning, spikes on the power supply etc.), most of
> the defective routers have simply lost their configuration file. On one
> occasion, the whole router flash was cleared, removing the IOS. On yet
> another occasion, I think we found the stock config file (the one with
> the large header, "cisco" login etc.) on the router (which I thought was
> really weird).
> 
> In all those cases, we have opted to re-use the router, if for nothing
> else than to see whether it was an actual hardware defect ... to date,
> no router has shown that behavior twice (we track the ser#).
> 
> As for the configs/routers themselves, the locations do not have any
> username/pw to log in to the routers. External access shouldn't be
> possible, as the network itself has no direct Internet connectivity.
> 
> Has anybody else here ever experienced effects like this?
> 

Yes, with the 827-4V   Exact same symptoms, flash wiped, including
the nvram - fortunately someone put a page up somewhere explaining
how to recover a wiped nvram.  Putting the thing
behind a VERY good UPS might help.  You also want to put a surge
suppressor on the telephone line the DSL signal is coming in on.

Beyond that, cheap router, whaddayah expect?  I gave up on the
all-in-one 8xx DSL solutions on DSL ages ago.  Today I send out separate
DSL modems in bridged mode and use ethernet-to-ethernet routers.
If the DSL modem goes tits up it's cheap enough to just overnight
another one out and tell them to throw away the modem.

Ted

From pigsign.pykota at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 03:03:54 2009
From: pigsign.pykota at gmail.com (Darren Yang)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:03:54 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] How can enable PfR PIRO function on IOS 12.4(24)T
Message-ID: <c914c50e0904070003x5d7cae43wbe30f641c61e1778@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The Cisco introduced PfR can support OSPF as parent route on IOS
12.4(24)T and this term is PIRO(Protocol Independent Route
Optimization).
Detail link this:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/oer/configuration/guide/oer-trf_rte_ctl.html#wp1060987

But when I use 12.4(24)T in Cisco 1812 module, I didn't see any PIRO
information can support OSPF when I type 'sh oer master prefix', like
below...

#sh oer master prefix
192.168.1.2/32            DEFAULT*       92 172.17.11.254   Tu11
    U
                               U        U        0        0        0        0
                               N        N        N        N        1        1

#sh ip route ospf
O       192.168.1.0/24 [110/11] via 10.0.0.1, 02:46:06, Tunnel11
                       [110/11] via 10.1.1.1, 02:46:06, Tunnel12

Before 12.4(24)T, I use static route as parent route and it works
well. But I really want to use OSPF as PfR parent route because static
route would make route fail when gateway couldn't arrive.

Anyone have idea about this ?

Thanks and Regards,

Pigsign

From md at bts.sk  Tue Apr  7 03:37:49 2009
From: md at bts.sk (=?UTF-8?Q?Marian_=C4=8Eurkovi=C4=8D?=)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:37:49 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 10GE card for 7609
In-Reply-To: <20090406162400.GA16201@mx.ytti.net>
References: <863386.41277.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<20090330151600.GA408@roxanne.org> <49D1BE37.8060402@skoal.name>
	<20090331074620.GV290@greenie.muc.de> <49D1CDD4.3080301@skoal.name>
	<20090331201210.GF51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
	<dd5f2deb0904051958h6a401608mb0d0e69c45387fd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090406161117.GA56528@bts.sk>
	<20090406162400.GA16201@mx.ytti.net>
Message-ID: <20090407070909.M61817@bts.sk>

On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 19:24:00 +0300, Saku Ytti wrote
>  3. Topologies used
>    c) anritsu  --darkfibre--  ten7/1:7600:ten7/2  --darkfibre-- anritsu
> 
>  4. Pure IP performance
>    4.1 no features configured, plain IP routing
>    c) 64bytes does 87.5% of linerate, rate appraoches 100% as size grows,

This is expected result - it's the 26 Mpps limit in Janus ASIC.

>       but is both bps and pps bound, so no configuration of packet size
>       and interval got 100%.

That is strange. There is no bandwidth limitation between the ports and Janus,
so it looks like something was broken in older IOS versions.

   M.

From lists at memetic.org  Tue Apr  7 05:25:26 2009
From: lists at memetic.org (Adam Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:25:26 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org>

Lee wrote:
> My experience has been that setting the speed and duplex on a catalyst
> switch stops it from doing auto-negotiation.  So with the switch ports
> set to 100/full I'd expect the 7500 ports to come up as 100/half.  But
> we don't have any cat4006s at work.. I don't know if they do
> auto-negotiation even if the port speed and duplex is configured,
>   
Setting duplex disables autonegiotation (setting speed doesn't disable 
duplex negotiation). When you force duplex on a port, the port stops 
participating in the autonegitation and forces itself to the setting you 
give it. This causes the opposite port (if it's autonegotiating) to drop 
always to half duplex.

As a general rule, you shouldn't force the duplex on a port unless the 
autonegotiation fails! (as it does on some quite old hardware)

adam.

From gert at greenie.muc.de  Tue Apr  7 05:42:08 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:42:08 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org>
Message-ID: <20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:25:26AM +0100, Adam Armstrong wrote:
> As a general rule, you shouldn't force the duplex on a port unless the 
> autonegotiation fails! (as it does on some quite old hardware)

... and the context of *this* discussion is likely involving PA-FE-TX's,
which are "quite old hardware", and cannot do any sort of autoneg.

gert
-- 
USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
                                                           //www.muc.de/~gert/
Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             gert at greenie.muc.de
fax: +49-89-35655025                        gert at net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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From A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk  Tue Apr  7 05:52:59 2009
From: A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk (A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:52:59 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco IOS ip helper-address and MADCAP
Message-ID: <20090407095259.GC25441@lboro.ac.uk>

hi,

just a quick question to peak some folks interest on a monday
morning....and since I didnt get an answer from google et al.

does anyone know if cisco 'ip helper-address' can deal with MADCAP
(multicast address assignment via DHCP - also known in some
circles as MDHCP)?   I know there is very little server support
for this - it seems, currently, that only microsoft DHCP server
can deal with this type of request - I want to know that if such
a server was deployed then would the requests from other VLANs
reach it as they currently do with standard DHCP (we use ISC DHCPD)

alan

From lists at memetic.org  Tue Apr  7 05:55:33 2009
From: lists at memetic.org (Adam Armstrong)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:55:33 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org> <20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>
Message-ID: <49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>

Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:25:26AM +0100, Adam Armstrong wrote:
>   
>> As a general rule, you shouldn't force the duplex on a port unless the 
>> autonegotiation fails! (as it does on some quite old hardware)
>>     
>
> ... and the context of *this* discussion is likely involving PA-FE-TX's,
> which are "quite old hardware", and cannot do any sort of autoneg.
>   
True, so the ports should probably be nailed to full at both sides.

adam.

From cklam at ias.edu  Tue Apr  7 08:57:38 2009
From: cklam at ias.edu (Christina Klam)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:57:38 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Squid cannot see wccp traffic through GRE Tunnel
Message-ID: <49DB4DC2.4070509@ias.edu>

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All,

We have been having some problems with wccpv2 working through a GRE
tunnel between a 6504e (version
s3223-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI.bin) and a Squid server (RHEL5).
The tunnel is up; and we an see GRE traffic on both sides.  WCCP is up
as well.  But, when we try to redirect wccp traffic to the Squid
server, the Squid server never receives it.  We are not having this
problem on a separate network where we are using wccp but not though a
GRE tunnel.  Any ideas?

interface Tunnel2
 description GRE_Squid
 ip address 172.16.X.Y 255.255.255.252
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 tunnel source Loopback1
 tunnel destination 172.16.C.C
end

interface Loopback1
 ip address 172.16.X.A 255.255.255.255
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 ip flow ingress

Internet facing interface:
interface Vlan3
 description #Uplink_Packeteer_Nitroguard_FW#
 ip address 172.16.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 ip wccp web-cache redirect in
 ip flow ingress

gateway-resnet#sh ip wccp web-cache detail
WCCP Client information:
        WCCP Client ID:          172.16.X.Z
        Protocol Version:        2.0
        State:                   Usable
        Redirection:             GRE
        Packet Return:           GRE
        Assignment:              HASH
        Initial Hash Info:       00000000000000000000000000000000
                                 00000000000000000000000000000000
        Assigned Hash Info:      FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
                                 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
        Hash Allotment:          256 (100.00%)
        Packets s/w Redirected:  0
        Connect Time:            01:21:48
        Bypassed Packets
          Process:               0
          CEF:                   0
          Errors:                0

gateway-resnet#sh int tunn 2
Tunnel2 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is Tunnel
  Description: GRE_Squid
  Internet address is 172.16.X.Y/30
  MTU 17868 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 50000 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation TUNNEL, loopback not set
  Keepalive not set
  Tunnel source 172.16.X.A (Loopback1), destination 172.16.C.C
  Tunnel protocol/transport GRE/IP
    Key disabled, sequencing disabled
    Checksumming of packets disabled
  Tunnel TTL 255, Fast tunneling enabled
  Tunnel transport MTU 1476 bytes
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/0 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  L2 Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
  L3 in Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
  L3 out Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
     226578 packets input, 47805578 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
     114505 packets output, 23682296 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

sh log:
Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X  1654: Mar 11 14:58:08.985 EST:
%SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
64.233.161.147(0), 3 packets
Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X 1655: Mar 11 14:58:08.989 EST:
%SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
209.85.133.101(0), 3 packets
Mar 11 14:59:10 172.16.X.X 1658: Mar 11 14:59:09.013 EST:
%SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
209.85.133.102(0), 2 packets

Squid ACL:
Extended IP access list SquidProxy
    10 permit tcp host 172.16.A.A any log
    20 permit tcp host 172.16.B.B any log (1220 matches)
    30 deny ip any any (118 matches)


Thank you,

- -- Christina




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From adrian at creative.net.au  Tue Apr  7 09:38:57 2009
From: adrian at creative.net.au (Adrian Chadd)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:38:57 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Squid cannot see wccp traffic through GRE Tunnel
In-Reply-To: <49DB4DC2.4070509@ias.edu>
References: <49DB4DC2.4070509@ias.edu>
Message-ID: <20090407133857.GE2446@skywalker.creative.net.au>

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, Christina Klam wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>  
> All,
> 
> We have been having some problems with wccpv2 working through a GRE
> tunnel between a 6504e (version
> s3223-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI.bin) and a Squid server (RHEL5).
> The tunnel is up; and we an see GRE traffic on both sides.  WCCP is up

Error - don't use a GRE tunnel with a 65xx series switch.

> as well.  But, when we try to redirect wccp traffic to the Squid
> server, the Squid server never receives it.  We are not having this
> problem on a separate network where we are using wccp but not though a
> GRE tunnel.  Any ideas?

Don't use GRE redirection/return. Use L2 redirection and return.
Use mask assignment rather than hash assignment. The traffic will
then stay 100% in the hardware path.

Anyway, for GRE redirection, you don't configure up a tunnel on the Cisco
router - the router just prepends the GRE packet header onto it.




Adrian

> 
> interface Tunnel2
>  description GRE_Squid
>  ip address 172.16.X.Y 255.255.255.252
>  ip wccp web-cache redirect out
>  tunnel source Loopback1
>  tunnel destination 172.16.C.C
> end
> 
> interface Loopback1
>  ip address 172.16.X.A 255.255.255.255
>  ip wccp web-cache redirect out
>  ip flow ingress
> 
> Internet facing interface:
> interface Vlan3
>  description #Uplink_Packeteer_Nitroguard_FW#
>  ip address 172.16.X.X 255.255.255.0
>  ip wccp web-cache redirect out
>  ip wccp web-cache redirect in
>  ip flow ingress
> 
> gateway-resnet#sh ip wccp web-cache detail
> WCCP Client information:
>         WCCP Client ID:          172.16.X.Z
>         Protocol Version:        2.0
>         State:                   Usable
>         Redirection:             GRE
>         Packet Return:           GRE
>         Assignment:              HASH
>         Initial Hash Info:       00000000000000000000000000000000
>                                  00000000000000000000000000000000
>         Assigned Hash Info:      FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>                                  FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>         Hash Allotment:          256 (100.00%)
>         Packets s/w Redirected:  0
>         Connect Time:            01:21:48
>         Bypassed Packets
>           Process:               0
>           CEF:                   0
>           Errors:                0
> 
> gateway-resnet#sh int tunn 2
> Tunnel2 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is Tunnel
>   Description: GRE_Squid
>   Internet address is 172.16.X.Y/30
>   MTU 17868 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 50000 usec,
>      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>   Encapsulation TUNNEL, loopback not set
>   Keepalive not set
>   Tunnel source 172.16.X.A (Loopback1), destination 172.16.C.C
>   Tunnel protocol/transport GRE/IP
>     Key disabled, sequencing disabled
>     Checksumming of packets disabled
>   Tunnel TTL 255, Fast tunneling enabled
>   Tunnel transport MTU 1476 bytes
>   Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue: 0/0 (size/max)
>   5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>   L2 Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
>   L3 in Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
>   L3 out Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
>      226578 packets input, 47805578 bytes, 0 no buffer
>      Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
>      0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>      0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>      114505 packets output, 23682296 bytes, 0 underruns
>      0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
>      0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> 
> sh log:
> Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X  1654: Mar 11 14:58:08.985 EST:
> %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
> 64.233.161.147(0), 3 packets
> Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X 1655: Mar 11 14:58:08.989 EST:
> %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
> 209.85.133.101(0), 3 packets
> Mar 11 14:59:10 172.16.X.X 1658: Mar 11 14:59:09.013 EST:
> %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
> 209.85.133.102(0), 2 packets
> 
> Squid ACL:
> Extended IP access list SquidProxy
>     10 permit tcp host 172.16.A.A any log
>     20 permit tcp host 172.16.B.B any log (1220 matches)
>     30 deny ip any any (118 matches)
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> - -- Christina
> 
> 
> 
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From juliano_luz at sicredi.com.br  Tue Apr  7 09:55:01 2009
From: juliano_luz at sicredi.com.br (Juliano Luz - Sicredi)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:55:01 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] RES:  Squid cannot see wccp traffic through GRE Tunnel
In-Reply-To: <49DB4DC2.4070509@ias.edu>
References: <49DB4DC2.4070509@ias.edu>
Message-ID: <004c01c9b788$727deba0$5779c2e0$@com.br>

Maybe a problem related to MTU size? 

Check
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk827/tk369/technologies_tech_note09186a0080
093f1f.shtml




-----Mensagem original-----
De: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] Em nome de Christina Klam
Enviada em: ter?a-feira, 7 de abril de 2009 09:58
Para: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Assunto: [c-nsp] Squid cannot see wccp traffic through GRE Tunnel

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
 
All,

We have been having some problems with wccpv2 working through a GRE tunnel
between a 6504e (version
s3223-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI.bin) and a Squid server (RHEL5).
The tunnel is up; and we an see GRE traffic on both sides.  WCCP is up as
well.  But, when we try to redirect wccp traffic to the Squid server, the
Squid server never receives it.  We are not having this problem on a
separate network where we are using wccp but not though a GRE tunnel.  Any
ideas?

interface Tunnel2
 description GRE_Squid
 ip address 172.16.X.Y 255.255.255.252
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 tunnel source Loopback1
 tunnel destination 172.16.C.C
end

interface Loopback1
 ip address 172.16.X.A 255.255.255.255
 ip wccp web-cache redirect out
 ip flow ingress

Internet facing interface:
interface Vlan3
 description #Uplink_Packeteer_Nitroguard_FW#  ip address 172.16.X.X
255.255.255.0  ip wccp web-cache redirect out  ip wccp web-cache redirect in
ip flow ingress

gateway-resnet#sh ip wccp web-cache detail WCCP Client information:
        WCCP Client ID:          172.16.X.Z
        Protocol Version:        2.0
        State:                   Usable
        Redirection:             GRE
        Packet Return:           GRE
        Assignment:              HASH
        Initial Hash Info:       00000000000000000000000000000000
                                 00000000000000000000000000000000
        Assigned Hash Info:      FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
                                 FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
        Hash Allotment:          256 (100.00%)
        Packets s/w Redirected:  0
        Connect Time:            01:21:48
        Bypassed Packets
          Process:               0
          CEF:                   0
          Errors:                0

gateway-resnet#sh int tunn 2
Tunnel2 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is Tunnel
  Description: GRE_Squid
  Internet address is 172.16.X.Y/30
  MTU 17868 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 50000 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation TUNNEL, loopback not set
  Keepalive not set
  Tunnel source 172.16.X.A (Loopback1), destination 172.16.C.C
  Tunnel protocol/transport GRE/IP
    Key disabled, sequencing disabled
    Checksumming of packets disabled
  Tunnel TTL 255, Fast tunneling enabled
  Tunnel transport MTU 1476 bytes
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/0 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  L2 Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
  L3 in Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
  L3 out Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
     226578 packets input, 47805578 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
     114505 packets output, 23682296 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

sh log:
Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X  1654: Mar 11 14:58:08.985 EST:
%SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
64.233.161.147(0), 3 packets Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X 1655: Mar 11
14:58:08.989 EST:
%SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
209.85.133.101(0), 3 packets Mar 11 14:59:10 172.16.X.X 1658: Mar 11
14:59:09.013 EST:
%SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
209.85.133.102(0), 2 packets

Squid ACL:
Extended IP access list SquidProxy
    10 permit tcp host 172.16.A.A any log
    20 permit tcp host 172.16.B.B any log (1220 matches)
    30 deny ip any any (118 matches)


Thank you,

- -- Christina




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From alasdairm at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 10:22:04 2009
From: alasdairm at gmail.com (Alasdair McWilliam)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:22:04 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP across continents
Message-ID: <ce2d38bb0904070722i14c37fc7nc927724a8e78ca6c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am setting up a multihomed hosting centre in Europe. As part of the
service offered we will be providing Disaster Recovery services, using
our ability to re-route customer IP prefixes, through to another
hosting centre in Canada.

We have a requirement for some prefixes within our net block to always
be available in Canada, and some to always be available in Europe. So,
I am wondering if someone can clarify my thoughts re. the AS numbers
required for this: can I use the same ASN at both locations (both of
which will have different upstreams) or will they reject prefixes from
one another? For example, Canada will see a prefix from Europe with
the same ASN in the AS-Path and drop it. Likewise Europe will drop
Canada prefixes because it can see the same AS in the AS-Path.

Is there any way around this or is the only option to request a second ASN?

Cheers
Alasdair

From jjsurlenet at hotmail.fr  Tue Apr  7 10:23:54 2009
From: jjsurlenet at hotmail.fr (JJ JJ)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:23:54 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] remove
In-Reply-To: <20090407133857.GE2446@skywalker.creative.net.au>
References: <49DB4DC2.4070509@ias.edu>
	<20090407133857.GE2446@skywalker.creative.net.au>
Message-ID: <COL113-W408B4FD11A5A793F4A3A0CB8850@phx.gbl>


remove
 
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:38:57 +0800
> From: adrian at creative.net.au
> To: cklam at ias.edu
> CC: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Squid cannot see wccp traffic through GRE Tunnel
> 
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009, Christina Klam wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > We have been having some problems with wccpv2 working through a GRE
> > tunnel between a 6504e (version
> > s3223-ipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI.bin) and a Squid server (RHEL5).
> > The tunnel is up; and we an see GRE traffic on both sides. WCCP is up
> 
> Error - don't use a GRE tunnel with a 65xx series switch.
> 
> > as well. But, when we try to redirect wccp traffic to the Squid
> > server, the Squid server never receives it. We are not having this
> > problem on a separate network where we are using wccp but not though a
> > GRE tunnel. Any ideas?
> 
> Don't use GRE redirection/return. Use L2 redirection and return.
> Use mask assignment rather than hash assignment. The traffic will
> then stay 100% in the hardware path.
> 
> Anyway, for GRE redirection, you don't configure up a tunnel on the Cisco
> router - the router just prepends the GRE packet header onto it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> > 
> > interface Tunnel2
> > description GRE_Squid
> > ip address 172.16.X.Y 255.255.255.252
> > ip wccp web-cache redirect out
> > tunnel source Loopback1
> > tunnel destination 172.16.C.C
> > end
> > 
> > interface Loopback1
> > ip address 172.16.X.A 255.255.255.255
> > ip wccp web-cache redirect out
> > ip flow ingress
> > 
> > Internet facing interface:
> > interface Vlan3
> > description #Uplink_Packeteer_Nitroguard_FW#
> > ip address 172.16.X.X 255.255.255.0
> > ip wccp web-cache redirect out
> > ip wccp web-cache redirect in
> > ip flow ingress
> > 
> > gateway-resnet#sh ip wccp web-cache detail
> > WCCP Client information:
> > WCCP Client ID: 172.16.X.Z
> > Protocol Version: 2.0
> > State: Usable
> > Redirection: GRE
> > Packet Return: GRE
> > Assignment: HASH
> > Initial Hash Info: 00000000000000000000000000000000
> > 00000000000000000000000000000000
> > Assigned Hash Info: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> > FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> > Hash Allotment: 256 (100.00%)
> > Packets s/w Redirected: 0
> > Connect Time: 01:21:48
> > Bypassed Packets
> > Process: 0
> > CEF: 0
> > Errors: 0
> > 
> > gateway-resnet#sh int tunn 2
> > Tunnel2 is up, line protocol is up
> > Hardware is Tunnel
> > Description: GRE_Squid
> > Internet address is 172.16.X.Y/30
> > MTU 17868 bytes, BW 100 Kbit, DLY 50000 usec,
> > reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
> > Encapsulation TUNNEL, loopback not set
> > Keepalive not set
> > Tunnel source 172.16.X.A (Loopback1), destination 172.16.C.C
> > Tunnel protocol/transport GRE/IP
> > Key disabled, sequencing disabled
> > Checksumming of packets disabled
> > Tunnel TTL 255, Fast tunneling enabled
> > Tunnel transport MTU 1476 bytes
> > Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> > Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
> > Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
> > Queueing strategy: fifo
> > Output queue: 0/0 (size/max)
> > 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
> > L2 Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
> > L3 in Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
> > L3 out Switched: ucast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
> > 226578 packets input, 47805578 bytes, 0 no buffer
> > Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
> > 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
> > 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
> > 114505 packets output, 23682296 bytes, 0 underruns
> > 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
> > 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> > 
> > sh log:
> > Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X 1654: Mar 11 14:58:08.985 EST:
> > %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
> > 64.233.161.147(0), 3 packets
> > Mar 11 14:58:09 172.16.X.X 1655: Mar 11 14:58:08.989 EST:
> > %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
> > 209.85.133.101(0), 3 packets
> > Mar 11 14:59:10 172.16.X.X 1658: Mar 11 14:59:09.013 EST:
> > %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list Squid permitted tcp 172.16.B.B(0) ->
> > 209.85.133.102(0), 2 packets
> > 
> > Squid ACL:
> > Extended IP access list SquidProxy
> > 10 permit tcp host 172.16.A.A any log
> > 20 permit tcp host 172.16.B.B any log (1220 matches)
> > 30 deny ip any any (118 matches)
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > - -- Christina
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From jzp-cnsp at rsuc.gweep.net  Tue Apr  7 10:30:41 2009
From: jzp-cnsp at rsuc.gweep.net (Joe Provo)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:30:41 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP across continents
In-Reply-To: <ce2d38bb0904070722i14c37fc7nc927724a8e78ca6c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ce2d38bb0904070722i14c37fc7nc927724a8e78ca6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090407143039.GA47565@gweep.net>

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Alasdair McWilliam wrote:
[snip]
> Is there any way around this or is the only option to request a second ASN?
 
Among the "give you enough rope" options, "neighbor allowas-in";
use with caution.  There are many other options, including to build 
tunnels between the sites and treat them as a logical single entity.

-- 
             RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE

From rodunn at cisco.com  Tue Apr  7 11:46:47 2009
From: rodunn at cisco.com (Rodney Dunn)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:46:47 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000
Message-ID: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>

Few bugs still being worked through but the 72xx and 76xx croaked
under the load:

ASR1002ESP10#sh proc cpu sort | excl 0.00
CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
ASR1002ESP10#sh ip nat stat
Total active translations: 92367 (80 static, 92287 dynamic; 92287 extended)
Outside interfaces:
  GigabitEthernet0/0/0, Tunnel1
Inside interfaces: 
  GigabitEthernet0/0/1, GigabitEthernet0/0/2
Hits: 0  Misses: 0
CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 0
Expired translations: 87400847


that's on 12.2(33)XNC and I just filed one bug.

CSCsy93931 ASRNAT does not do FIN/RST/SYN timeout when no-payload keyword used


My first work on the box with NAT but this thing seems pretty impressive.

Anyone else using it for high scale nat yet?

Rodney



From emanuel.popa at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 11:51:44 2009
From: emanuel.popa at gmail.com (Emanuel Popa)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:51:44 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
Message-ID: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>

hi there,

due to the increase in traffic volume in the last couple of years we
need to really think about the future of the network. we have deployed
and we are managing a 50GE multi-ring topology network with Cisco 7600
routers. i don't want to get into more details about ring topology
restrictions, platform limitations regarding wire speed, huge problems
with ether-channels or unpredictable load balancing behaviour. we've
been using these chassis since 2004 starting with STM-16 lines and the
PQ ratio looks pretty good so far.

coming back to nowadays, 40GE or 100GE is not available yet, and even
if it was, the price would be probably unaffordable. and now the
question pops: what is the next step? the best answer is of course a
mix of multiple 10GE lines with traffic engineering and partial mesh
topology and 100GE ready chassis. first thing that comes to mind is
the CRS-1 platform, but it is really expensive: from under 15K per
10GE port with the Cisco 7600 you have to pay more than 75K per 10GE
port with the CRS-1. so we have to take into consideration what are
the alternatives. i will try a short comparison:

- Cisco CRS-1 16 Slot
--- max 64 x 10GE
--- max 32 links in a bundle
--- 40Gbps per slot
--- 100GE ready
--- multi-chassis ready
--- 10.920W max power
--- 723kg max weight
--- full rack space
--- $5.115.000,00/chassis
--- $79.921,88/10GE

- Juniper T1600
--- max 64 x 10GE
--- max 16 links in a bundle
--- 100Gbps per slot
--- 100GE ready
--- multi-chassis ready
--- 8.352W max power
--- 274,88kg max weight
--- 1/2 rack space
--- $6.547.000,00/chassis
--- $102.296,88/10GE

- Brocade/ Foundry NetIron XMR 16000
--- max 64 x 10GE
--- max 32 links in a bundle
--- 50Gbps per slot
--- 100GE ready (* only full slots)
--- single-chassis
--- 5.572W max power
--- 107,00kg max weight
--- 1/3 rack space
--- $567.515,00/chassis
--- $8.867,42/10GE

I've also been looking at Huawei, Alcatel and HP gear but haven't been
able to find a device to support more than 24 x 10GE ports in a single
chassis.

Here's what I'm trying to figure out:

1. are there any other devices on the market with same hardware capabilities?

2. why the huge difference between foundry and cisco/juniper?

3. if foundry is so cheap why hasn't it gathered more market share?
instead it was bought by brocade a while ago...

4. is the netiron really a carrier router more than a carrier switch?
anybody experienced it?

5. how does the software perform when comparing with IOS XR and JunOS?

Please, any comments are welcomed.

Best regards,
Manu

From elmi at 4ever.de  Tue Apr  7 12:01:15 2009
From: elmi at 4ever.de (Elmar K. Bins)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:01:15 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Too dumb for SLB on ASR1Ks?
In-Reply-To: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
References: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <20090407160115.GX29526@ronin.4ever.de>

So far, I have gotten only the one response to my question.

What would be the suggestion? "Ask Cisco for configuration
help?" "Create a bug id?" Any ideas/guidance? I'm under the
impression my basic config should be working but it doesn't...

You know, any input etc...

Elmar.

From achatz at forthnet.gr  Tue Apr  7 12:02:52 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:02:52 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000
In-Reply-To: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
References: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <49DB792C.6080507@forthnet.gr>

Rodney, can you do a "sh plat soft stat contr br"?

--
Tassos

Rodney Dunn wrote on 07/04/2009 18:46:
> Few bugs still being worked through but the 72xx and 76xx croaked
> under the load:
> 
> ASR1002ESP10#sh proc cpu sort | excl 0.00
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
> ASR1002ESP10#sh ip nat stat
> Total active translations: 92367 (80 static, 92287 dynamic; 92287 extended)
> Outside interfaces:
>   GigabitEthernet0/0/0, Tunnel1
> Inside interfaces: 
>   GigabitEthernet0/0/1, GigabitEthernet0/0/2
> Hits: 0  Misses: 0
> CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 0
> Expired translations: 87400847
> 
> 
> that's on 12.2(33)XNC and I just filed one bug.
> 
> CSCsy93931 ASRNAT does not do FIN/RST/SYN timeout when no-payload keyword used
> 
> 
> My first work on the box with NAT but this thing seems pretty impressive.
> 
> Anyone else using it for high scale nat yet?
> 
> Rodney
> 
> 
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From achatz at forthnet.gr  Tue Apr  7 12:20:41 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:20:41 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49DB7D59.1030006@forthnet.gr>

Besides your choices, ASR 9000 should be out soon (its IOS XR Software is already available).

--
Tassos

Emanuel Popa wrote on 07/04/2009 18:51:
> hi there,
> 
> due to the increase in traffic volume in the last couple of years we
> need to really think about the future of the network. we have deployed
> and we are managing a 50GE multi-ring topology network with Cisco 7600
> routers. i don't want to get into more details about ring topology
> restrictions, platform limitations regarding wire speed, huge problems
> with ether-channels or unpredictable load balancing behaviour. we've
> been using these chassis since 2004 starting with STM-16 lines and the
> PQ ratio looks pretty good so far.
> 
> coming back to nowadays, 40GE or 100GE is not available yet, and even
> if it was, the price would be probably unaffordable. and now the
> question pops: what is the next step? the best answer is of course a
> mix of multiple 10GE lines with traffic engineering and partial mesh
> topology and 100GE ready chassis. first thing that comes to mind is
> the CRS-1 platform, but it is really expensive: from under 15K per
> 10GE port with the Cisco 7600 you have to pay more than 75K per 10GE
> port with the CRS-1. so we have to take into consideration what are
> the alternatives. i will try a short comparison:
> 
> - Cisco CRS-1 16 Slot
> --- max 64 x 10GE
> --- max 32 links in a bundle
> --- 40Gbps per slot
> --- 100GE ready
> --- multi-chassis ready
> --- 10.920W max power
> --- 723kg max weight
> --- full rack space
> --- $5.115.000,00/chassis
> --- $79.921,88/10GE
> 
> - Juniper T1600
> --- max 64 x 10GE
> --- max 16 links in a bundle
> --- 100Gbps per slot
> --- 100GE ready
> --- multi-chassis ready
> --- 8.352W max power
> --- 274,88kg max weight
> --- 1/2 rack space
> --- $6.547.000,00/chassis
> --- $102.296,88/10GE
> 
> - Brocade/ Foundry NetIron XMR 16000
> --- max 64 x 10GE
> --- max 32 links in a bundle
> --- 50Gbps per slot
> --- 100GE ready (* only full slots)
> --- single-chassis
> --- 5.572W max power
> --- 107,00kg max weight
> --- 1/3 rack space
> --- $567.515,00/chassis
> --- $8.867,42/10GE
> 
> I've also been looking at Huawei, Alcatel and HP gear but haven't been
> able to find a device to support more than 24 x 10GE ports in a single
> chassis.
> 
> Here's what I'm trying to figure out:
> 
> 1. are there any other devices on the market with same hardware capabilities?
> 
> 2. why the huge difference between foundry and cisco/juniper?
> 
> 3. if foundry is so cheap why hasn't it gathered more market share?
> instead it was bought by brocade a while ago...
> 
> 4. is the netiron really a carrier router more than a carrier switch?
> anybody experienced it?
> 
> 5. how does the software perform when comparing with IOS XR and JunOS?
> 
> Please, any comments are welcomed.
> 
> Best regards,
> Manu
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From r.tahina at moov.mg  Tue Apr  7 11:36:23 2009
From: r.tahina at moov.mg (RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:36:23 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] upload to 2 upstreams
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090407183213.04f15628@moov.mg>

Hi all,

We have two upstreams and our upload traffic is load balanced between 
them, when one of them is down, how can I do to send all output to 
the one which is still up?

Regards.

From SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca  Tue Apr  7 11:53:16 2009
From: SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca (Mesiatowsky, Shawn)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:53:16 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Packet Loss on 6513
Message-ID: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE8@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>

We currently have 2 6513's in our core, and we have seen packet loss on our network. I was trying to locate the source of the packet loss. We did see some input queue drops on the SVI's and physical interfaces. I had increased our queue size on the vlan interfaces to 500, and our packet drops on the svi's decreased signifigantly. Now I am trying to figure out why there is packet loss on the physical interfaces. We have a sup 720, and our line cards are WS-X6724-SFP and WS-X6748-SFP.

Here is a sample of an interface with high drops
GigabitEthernet2/23 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is C6k 1000Mb 802.3, address is 001a.2f68.7bc2 (bia 001a.2f68.7bc2)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 38/255, rxload 32/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is SX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is off
  Clock mode is auto
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:31, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d00h
  Input queue: 0/2000/91560/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 126671000 bits/sec, 28888 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 151605000 bits/sec, 26499 packets/sec
     942611654 packets input, 633784740348 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 7319979 broadcasts (6903850 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 91560 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     891230426 packets output, 579042873963 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

I also looked at the utilization of this interface with our snmp tool, and utilixzation of this interface never went over %40

I also noticed the following, and was not sure if this was completely accurate:

show platform hardware capacity interface
Interface Resources
  Interface drops:
    Module    Total drops:    Tx            Rx      Highest drop port:  Tx  Rx
    1                          0           466                           0   1
    2                          0        154228                           0  23
    3                          0           123                           0   1
    4                          0        190102                           0  21
    5                          0        446318                           0  21
    7                 3940684041             0                           1   0
    9                          0         34280                           0   7
    10                         0             5                           0  42
    11                         0           433                           0  46
    12                         0          1686                           0  44
    13                     66042        119859                           1   1

  Interface buffer sizes:
    Module                            Bytes:     Tx buffer           Rx buffer
    1                                              1221120              152000
    2                                              1221120              152000
    3                                              1221120              152000
    4                                              1221120              152000
    5                                              1221120              152000
    6                                              1221120              152000
    9                                              1221120              152000
    10                                             1221120              152000
    11                                             1221120              152000
    12                                             1221120              152000
    13                                             1221120              152000

Does this mean that 3940684041 packets were dropped on the egress queue on the sup? Does this seem extremly high, and shat can cause this?
Thanks for your help



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From sethm at rollernet.us  Tue Apr  7 12:51:59 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:51:59 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Too dumb for SLB on ASR1Ks?
In-Reply-To: <20090407160115.GX29526@ronin.4ever.de>
References: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
	<20090407160115.GX29526@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <49DB84AF.1040602@rollernet.us>

Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> So far, I have gotten only the one response to my question.
> 
> What would be the suggestion? "Ask Cisco for configuration
> help?" "Create a bug id?" Any ideas/guidance? I'm under the
> impression my basic config should be working but it doesn't...
> 
> You know, any input etc...
> 

Open a TAC case. If it's not supported someone should know. (Although it
could take weeks like the time I threw an IPv6 question at TAC.) If it
is supported and it's broken, they should be able to open a bug. I'd
help more since I use IOS SLB a lot, but I just don't have an ASR1000 as
much as I wish I did. ;)

~Seth

From sethm at rollernet.us  Tue Apr  7 12:55:19 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:55:19 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Packet Loss on 6513
In-Reply-To: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE8@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>
References: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE8@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>
Message-ID: <49DB8577.2060805@rollernet.us>

Mesiatowsky, Shawn wrote:
> We currently have 2 6513's in our core, and we have seen packet loss on our network. I was trying to locate the source of the packet loss. We did see some input queue drops on the SVI's and physical interfaces. I had increased our queue size on the vlan interfaces to 500, and our packet drops on the svi's decreased signifigantly. Now I am trying to figure out why there is packet loss on the physical interfaces. We have a sup 720, and our line cards are WS-X6724-SFP and WS-X6748-SFP.
> 

Check your TCAM utilization.

~Seth

From rodunn at cisco.com  Tue Apr  7 12:56:47 2009
From: rodunn at cisco.com (Rodney Dunn)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:56:47 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000
In-Reply-To: <49DB792C.6080507@forthnet.gr>
References: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
	<49DB792C.6080507@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <20090407165647.GA22725@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>

sh plat software status control-processor brief 
Load Average
 Slot  Status  1-Min  5-Min 15-Min
  RP0 Healthy   0.00   0.04   0.01
 ESP0 Healthy   0.00   0.00   0.00
 SIP0 Healthy   0.02   0.02   0.00

Memory (kB)
 Slot  Status    Total     Used (Pct)     Free (Pct) Committed (Pct)
  RP0 Healthy  3711920  1525468 (36%)  2186452 (52%)   2438180 (59%)
 ESP0 Healthy  2024492   527680 (25%)  1496812 (71%)   2807552 (133%)
 SIP0 Healthy   480084   287860 (54%)   192224 (36%)    199468 (38%)

CPU Utilization
 Slot  CPU   User System   Nice   Idle    IRQ   SIRQ IOwait
  RP0    0   2.15   1.54   0.00  96.25   0.01   0.03   0.00
 ESP0    0   0.57   0.60   0.00  98.80   0.00   0.01   0.00
 SIP0    0   0.30   0.41   0.00  99.25   0.00   0.01   0.00


It's a live network I worked on over the weekend. It's a pretty high
rate short lived session network.

We set the timeouts down:

ip nat translation timeout 1800
ip nat translation tcp-timeout 900
ip nat translation udp-timeout 150
ip nat translation dns-timeout 30

show platform hardware cpp active infrastructure exmem statistics

and there is a lot of QFP memory left:

Type: Name: IRAM, CPP: 0
  Total: 134217728
  InUse: 4779008
  Free: 128974848
  Free protected: 463872
  Free unprotected: 0
  Lowest free water mark: 129438720
  Largest free block: 99537920
Type: Name: DRAM, CPP: 0
  Total: 402653184
  InUse: 190609408
  Free: 209715200
  Free protected: 598016
  Free unprotected: 1730560
  Lowest free water mark: 212043776
  Largest free block: 210233344

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 07:02:52PM +0300, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
> Rodney, can you do a "sh plat soft stat contr br"?
> 
> --
> Tassos
> 
> Rodney Dunn wrote on 07/04/2009 18:46:
> >Few bugs still being worked through but the 72xx and 76xx croaked
> >under the load:
> >
> >ASR1002ESP10#sh proc cpu sort | excl 0.00
> >CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
> > PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
> >ASR1002ESP10#sh ip nat stat
> >Total active translations: 92367 (80 static, 92287 dynamic; 92287 extended)
> >Outside interfaces:
> >  GigabitEthernet0/0/0, Tunnel1
> >Inside interfaces: 
> >  GigabitEthernet0/0/1, GigabitEthernet0/0/2
> >Hits: 0  Misses: 0
> >CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 0
> >Expired translations: 87400847
> >
> >
> >that's on 12.2(33)XNC and I just filed one bug.
> >
> >CSCsy93931 ASRNAT does not do FIN/RST/SYN timeout when no-payload keyword 
> >used
> >
> >
> >My first work on the box with NAT but this thing seems pretty impressive.
> >
> >Anyone else using it for high scale nat yet?
> >
> >Rodney
> >
> >
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> >

From SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca  Tue Apr  7 12:11:29 2009
From: SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca (Mesiatowsky, Shawn)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:11:29 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Packet Loss on 6513
Message-ID: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE9@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>

We currently have 2 6513's in our core, and we have seen packet loss on our network. I was trying to locate the source of the packet loss. We did see some input queue drops on the SVI's and physical interfaces. I had increased our queue size on the vlan interfaces to 500, and our packet drops on the svi's decreased signifigantly. Now I am trying to figure out why there is packet loss on the physical interfaces. We have a sup 720, and our line cards are WS-X6724-SFP and WS-X6748-SFP.

Here is a sample of an interface with high drops
GigabitEthernet2/23 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is C6k 1000Mb 802.3, address is 001a.2f68.7bc2 (bia 001a.2f68.7bc2)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 38/255, rxload 32/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is SX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is off
  Clock mode is auto
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:31, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d00h
  Input queue: 0/2000/91560/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 126671000 bits/sec, 28888 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 151605000 bits/sec, 26499 packets/sec
     942611654 packets input, 633784740348 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 7319979 broadcasts (6903850 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 91560 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     891230426 packets output, 579042873963 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

I also looked at the utilization of this interface with our snmp tool, and utilixzation of this interface never went over %40

I also noticed the following, and was not sure if this was completely accurate:

show platform hardware capacity interface
Interface Resources
  Interface drops:
    Module    Total drops:    Tx            Rx      Highest drop port:  Tx  Rx
    1                          0           466                           0   1
    2                          0        154228                           0  23
    3                          0           123                           0   1
    4                          0        190102                           0  21
    5                          0        446318                           0  21
    7                 3940684041             0                           1   0
    9                          0         34280                           0   7
    10                         0             5                           0  42
    11                         0           433                           0  46
    12                         0          1686                           0  44
    13                     66042        119859                           1   1

  Interface buffer sizes:
    Module                            Bytes:     Tx buffer           Rx buffer
    1                                              1221120              152000
    2                                              1221120              152000
    3                                              1221120              152000
    4                                              1221120              152000
    5                                              1221120              152000
    6                                              1221120              152000
    9                                              1221120              152000
    10                                             1221120              152000
    11                                             1221120              152000
    12                                             1221120              152000
    13                                             1221120              152000

Does this mean that 3940684041 packets were dropped on the egress queue on the sup? Does this seem extremly high, and shat can cause this?
Thanks for your help



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From rodunn at cisco.com  Tue Apr  7 13:00:37 2009
From: rodunn at cisco.com (Rodney Dunn)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 13:00:37 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Too dumb for SLB on ASR1Ks?
In-Reply-To: <20090407160115.GX29526@ronin.4ever.de>
References: <20090403153128.GA12333@ronin.4ever.de>
	<20090407160115.GX29526@ronin.4ever.de>
Message-ID: <20090407170037.GB22725@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>

I just asked one of the platform PM's.

It's not supported on ASR1k.

Rodney


On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 06:01:15PM +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> So far, I have gotten only the one response to my question.
> 
> What would be the suggestion? "Ask Cisco for configuration
> help?" "Create a bug id?" Any ideas/guidance? I'm under the
> impression my basic config should be working but it doesn't...
> 
> You know, any input etc...
> 
> Elmar.
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From yanf787 at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  7 13:02:55 2009
From: yanf787 at yahoo.com (Yan Filyurin)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000
In-Reply-To: <49DB792C.6080507@forthnet.gr>
References: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
	<49DB792C.6080507@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <946159.23396.qm@web54009.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

At certain point of time, I was testing NAT with just test tools, sending various forms of raw TCP, UDP and just IP traffic. I was able to get about 150k simultaneous translations at 2Gbps doing very low packet sizes.  I definitely remember doing it with IMIX.  I do remember seeing issues with BFD when NAT was enabled and a number of IPSec issues. But I think most of these issues have been fixed.  There were also some issues with show commands, but that goes back to 2.2.1. This device is perfect for NAT.  7200 G2 is the next best thing and definitely better than 7600. G2 could easily do 100k translations at about 500% Mbps, but with 60% CPU.  Maybe easily isn't the right word, but still. I can give more details offline. 

Yan




________________________________
From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou <achatz at forthnet.gr>
To: Rodney Dunn <rodunn at cisco.com>
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:02:52 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000

Rodney, can you do a "sh plat soft stat contr br"?

--
Tassos

Rodney Dunn wrote on 07/04/2009 18:46:
> Few bugs still being worked through but the 72xx and 76xx croaked
> under the load:
> 
> ASR1002ESP10#sh proc cpu sort | excl 0.00
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process ASR1002ESP10#sh ip nat stat
> Total active translations: 92367 (80 static, 92287 dynamic; 92287 extended)
> Outside interfaces:
>   GigabitEthernet0/0/0, Tunnel1
> Inside interfaces:   GigabitEthernet0/0/1, GigabitEthernet0/0/2
> Hits: 0  Misses: 0
> CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 0
> Expired translations: 87400847
> 
> 
> that's on 12.2(33)XNC and I just filed one bug.
> 
> CSCsy93931 ASRNAT does not do FIN/RST/SYN timeout when no-payload keyword used
> 
> 
> My first work on the box with NAT but this thing seems pretty impressive.
> 
> Anyone else using it for high scale nat yet?
> 
> Rodney
> 
> 
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From clane1875 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 16:22:47 2009
From: clane1875 at gmail.com (Chris Lane)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:22:47 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco 3750 ME %SCHED-3-THRASHING
Message-ID: <2e1cd850904071322v4252f143n3334d96b9d94e4da@mail.gmail.com>

All,Please help me identify why my 3750ME is throwing these errors.

 %SCHED-3-THRASHING: Process thrashing on watched message event. -Process=
"SSH Process", ipl= 6, pid= 98
-Traceback= 2E4424 2E4B70 D0C404 D0C78C ED455C ED4FE8 ED5A44 ED657C ED6650
CBE0C8 CBE32C CBEA68 CBE914 29BD4C ED996C EDA25b

I have looked up on google: Cisco isn't very helpful and says its cleared
with 122.25S.
http://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/The_"SCHED-3-THRASHING:_Process_thrashing_on_watched"_error_message_and_traceback_errors_appear_in_Catalyst_3750_series_switches<http://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/The_%22SCHED-3-THRASHING:_Process_thrashing_on_watched%22_error_message_and_traceback_errors_appear_in_Catalyst_3750_series_switches>

I am running 122-46.SE.bin

uptime is 1week

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-- 
//CL

From leonardo.souza at nec.com.br  Tue Apr  7 16:50:22 2009
From: leonardo.souza at nec.com.br (Leonardo Gama Souza)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:50:22 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] RES:  Packet Loss on 6513
In-Reply-To: <49DB8577.2060805@rollernet.us>
References: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE8@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>
	<49DB8577.2060805@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <9E07F8717FE8BC4FBAE6860F61EA6C1D022E542E@spsrvmail03.nec.br>


Mesiatowsky, Shawn wrote:
> We currently have 2 6513's in our core, and we have seen packet loss on our network. I was trying to locate the source of the packet loss. We did see some input queue drops on the SVI's and physical interfaces. I had increased our queue size on the vlan interfaces to 500, and our packet drops on the svi's decreased signifigantly. Now I am trying to figure out why there is packet loss on the physical interfaces. We have a sup 720, and our line cards are WS-X6724-SFP and WS-X6748-SFP.
> 

http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2004-November/014366.html
It is a good start.

[]?s

From billw at waveform.net  Tue Apr  7 17:23:17 2009
From: billw at waveform.net (Bill Wichers)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:23:17 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local><dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com><49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org>
	<20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>
	<49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>
Message-ID: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>

[snip]
> > ... and the context of *this* discussion is likely involving
PA-FE-TX's,
> > which are "quite old hardware", and cannot do any sort of autoneg.
> >
> True, so the ports should probably be nailed to full at both sides.

Correct, they are PA-FE-TX's. There are two such PAs in a VIP2-50, and
those are running the port channel. We use the 7507 as a DoS mitigator
since the CPU on the VIP can't handle typical DoS traffic very well and
effectively self-limits DoS traffic flow to around 20-30Mb/s or so. For
"normal" traffic it can do around 150ish Mb/s or so usually without
trouble. The packet size makes all the difference :-)

I typically set both ends (router and switch) of these links to 100/full
since I've seen weird autonegotiation problems before. This works just
fine for individual FE links, but as soon as I bring up the Etherchannel
group both member links on the router end drop back to "unknown duplex"
(which the switch says is 100/half), and I can't figure out why my
"full-duplex" config entry on each port magically disappears as soon as
the Etherchannel group is brought up. That's the weird problem I'm
trying to figure out...

  -Bill

From alasdairm at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 17:34:16 2009
From: alasdairm at gmail.com (Alasdair McWilliam)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:34:16 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP across continents
In-Reply-To: <5493710CC8A944FBA14A84C16722685A@Toshiba>
References: <ce2d38bb0904070722i14c37fc7nc927724a8e78ca6c@mail.gmail.com>
	<5493710CC8A944FBA14A84C16722685A@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <8669CB1B-EDD9-49D5-9561-DDAF9D2C1D4F@gmail.com>

Hello,

I did think about GRE tunnels but GRE would still need to know about  
the tunnel destination interfaces. I guess I could get around that by  
using the IP address of the ISP interfaces on the border routers, but  
each router will have a link to 2 upstreams, so I'd have to look at  
that from a resilience perspective.

Our border routers are ASR 1002 + ESP5, both will have GE interfaces  
to two providers (4 links, 2 providers). I'm also expecting about  
10Mbps consistently between Europe and Canada even without any  
customer being in "disaster" mode. Any indication of how the ASR1002 +  
ESP5 will handle this? (I've not actually got my hands on an ASR yet  
so am not too sure how they will fare. However from the white papers  
I've read and from what others have said I'm quite hopeful they will  
last for years to come! ;)

Provider wise, Canada and Europe will not share the same providers at  
all. I'm personally thinking of going with two ASNs to keep it  
completely clean, but need to look at the commercials around that from  
a RIPE/ARIN perspective.

Thanks very much
Alasdair


On 7 Apr 2009, at 18:50, Scott Granados wrote:

> There's the allow AS option or you could set up GRE tunnels between  
> sites and build a mesh.  If you use the same carrier in both  
> locations you could use the no-export option and play with more  
> specifics / traffic engineering on that level as well.  Remember  
> though if you start pushing to much traffic over the GRE you're  
> likely to have CPU load issues.  (depending on hardware)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alasdair McWilliam" <alasdairm at gmail.com 
> >
> To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:22 AM
> Subject: [c-nsp] BGP across continents
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am setting up a multihomed hosting centre in Europe. As part of the
>> service offered we will be providing Disaster Recovery services,  
>> using
>> our ability to re-route customer IP prefixes, through to another
>> hosting centre in Canada.
>>
>> We have a requirement for some prefixes within our net block to  
>> always
>> be available in Canada, and some to always be available in Europe.  
>> So,
>> I am wondering if someone can clarify my thoughts re. the AS numbers
>> required for this: can I use the same ASN at both locations (both of
>> which will have different upstreams) or will they reject prefixes  
>> from
>> one another? For example, Canada will see a prefix from Europe with
>> the same ASN in the AS-Path and drop it. Likewise Europe will drop
>> Canada prefixes because it can see the same AS in the AS-Path.
>>
>> Is there any way around this or is the only option to request a  
>> second ASN?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Alasdair
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From justin at justinshore.com  Tue Apr  7 17:53:17 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:53:17 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GigE sub-int won't come up
Message-ID: <49DBCB4D.8040207@justinshore.com>

I'm trying to add a simple sub-int to a built-in GigE interface on a 
7206VXR G2.  I already have several sub-ints on the same interface and 
they're working great (typing this email across one of them).  However 
when I added a new sub-int it refused to come up and I can't figure out 
why.

Here's the physical interface config:

interface GigabitEthernet0/2
  description TO 4948-1.amherst Gi1/45
  no ip address
  duplex auto
  speed 1000
  media-type sfp
  negotiation auto

Very simple.  Here's the sub-int config:

interface GigabitEthernet0/2.999
  description Acme LAN PoC
  encapsulation dot1Q 999
  ip vrf forwarding acme-elan
  ip address 100.100.100.13 255.255.255.252

Also very simple.  The other sub-ints aren't in VRFs but I doubt if that 
would be a problem here (could be but I doubt it).

GigabitEthernet0/2.999     100.100.100.13  YES manual down 
     down

I was using VLAN 1001 for the lab test but switched to 999 after 
thinking that perhaps 1001 was used internally on the 7200 (I don't 
think it is but just in case); still no go.  The VRF is up.  I have 
MLPPP bundle in it and they're working on the same 7206.  I'm running 
12.4(15)T7.  It appears to stay up/up until I define the 1Q VLAN ID on 
the sub-int.  Then it goes down/down.  Oddly enough the sub-int doesn't 
go back to up/up (when the 1Q VLAN is removed) after going down/down 
(when the 1Q VLAN is assigned).

What in the world would keep a sub-int on an Ethernet interface from 
coming up?  I'm not even sure what debug options are available for 
something like this.  Connected to Gi0/2 is a 4948 and that VLAN is 
permitted across the trunk.

Thoughts?  I'm sure someone will noticed my error right off but I sure 
can't find it.  Thanks
  Justin

From streiner at cluebyfour.org  Tue Apr  7 18:30:39 2009
From: streiner at cluebyfour.org (Justin M. Streiner)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] GigE sub-int won't come up
In-Reply-To: <49DBCB4D.8040207@justinshore.com>
References: <49DBCB4D.8040207@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904071828110.9424@whammy.cluebyfour.org>

On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Justin Shore wrote:

> What in the world would keep a sub-int on an Ethernet interface from coming 
> up?  I'm not even sure what debug options are available for something like 
> this.  Connected to Gi0/2 is a 4948 and that VLAN is permitted across the 
> trunk.

Is there an active access port in VLAN 999 on the 4948, or somewhere 
downstream of it, assuming any neccessary trunking at the site is already 
in place?  I've seen VLANs not come up before, until there is actually a 
host in the VLAN.

jms

From rick at woofpaws.com  Tue Apr  7 19:10:20 2009
From: rick at woofpaws.com (Rick Ernst)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:10:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] MLS and accelerated switching
Message-ID: <54204.69.30.17.85.1239145820.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>


I'm still working on developing a network design for our ethernet core to
best balance the cost/value of "just moving bits".  The core is currently
a pair of 7507/RSP16/GEIP+ routers running as BGP route-reflectors between
the border and aggregation layers.

The 7507s (and GEIPs) don't have the horsepower to move much more than
about 400Mbs each with current ACLs, NetFlow, and BGP.  If the processing
were to move to an MLS or accelerated fabric, with just the high-touch
bits touching the RSP, it seems like there is still a lot of performance
available without going to an "overpowered" 7600/Sup720.

It looks like the 6500 Sup-2 supports 128K MLS entries.  Based on my
NetFlow analysis, I get the following breakdown of unique IPs per time
period:

Time    Unique IPs
-----   -----
15min   320K
 5min   150K
90sec    90K
45sec    70K
30sec    55K
15sec    35K

If I understand MLS and aging correctly, I should be able to set MLS aging
to 45 seconds and MLS flow to destination, and have at least some room for
growth.

Am I interpreting my data correctly and understanding MLS properly?  Will
MLS churn at such a short interval cause its own problems?

To alter the question slightly; is there a switching platform that could
use the RSP16s as a router-on-a-stick to handle >= 1Gbs/2Mpps?

Thanks,


From justin at justinshore.com  Tue Apr  7 19:12:30 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:12:30 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GigE sub-int won't come up
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904071828110.9424@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
References: <49DBCB4D.8040207@justinshore.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0904071828110.9424@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
Message-ID: <49DBDDDE.9010904@justinshore.com>

Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> Is there an active access port in VLAN 999 on the 4948, or somewhere 
> downstream of it, assuming any neccessary trunking at the site is 
> already in place?  I've seen VLANs not come up before, until there is 
> actually a host in the VLAN.

There is an active switchport in 999 currently and 1001 before I 
switched to 999.  I don't know that the 4948 could be the problem 
though.  I've seen VLANs not come up until a port in the VLAN was active 
as well but that's normally on a switch or a router with a switchport 
(ISR w/ a Ethernet HWIC for example).  There isn't a mechanism to 
advertise VLANs or their local status across a trunk that I'm aware of 
(with VTP disabled at least).  VTP is transparent on the 4948 and not 
configurable on the 7206.  I should be able to configure a dozen 1Q 
sub-ints on a router's interface and have them be up/up regardless of 
whether it's configured for use on the connected switch.  At least I'm 
pretty sure I should be able to.

What silly thing am I missing?  Maybe it will come to me after consuming 
chips and salsa.  Thanks for the info

Justin

From dale.shaw+cisco-nsp at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 19:41:06 2009
From: dale.shaw+cisco-nsp at gmail.com (Dale Shaw)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:41:06 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] 7200/NPE-G2 field notices
Message-ID: <3329cbb40904071641j4cc9ab12o7d68e10ea6bb3351@mail.gmail.com>

In case you missed 'em..

Title:
Updated Cisco Field Notice: FN - 62535 - NPE-G2, Incompatibility With
Lower-Revision VXR Series Chassis With Specific Port Adaptors - RMA
required
URL:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/ts/fn/620/fn62535.html

Title:
Updated Cisco Field Notice: FN - 62514 - C7200-JC-PA - Certain Jacket
Cards with PA installed on 7200VXR may have infrequent system crashes
due to PCI Bus Error, Software Forced Crash, WDT Reset error - RMA
required
URL:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/customer/ts/fn/620/fn62514.html

cheers,
Dale

From pshem.k at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 20:51:35 2009
From: pshem.k at gmail.com (Pshem Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:51:35 +1200
Subject: [c-nsp] ASR1004 - ipv6 static route in a vrf
Message-ID: <20fe625b0904071751o10fd57f8p4991d548f5e64bd1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm playing with an ASR1004 to test some ipv6 capabilities. For some
reason I can't seem to get a static route working:

ASR1(config)#ipv6 route vrf Public 2407:7000::/32 Null0
ASR1(config)#do sh ipv6 route vrf Public
IPv6 Routing Table - Public - 1 entries
Codes: C - Connected, L - Local, S - Static, U - Per-user Static route
       B - BGP, R - RIP, I1 - ISIS L1, I2 - ISIS L2
       IA - ISIS interarea, IS - ISIS summary, D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external
       O - OSPF Intra, OI - OSPF Inter, OE1 - OSPF ext 1, OE2 - OSPF ext 2
       ON1 - OSPF NSSA ext 1, ON2 - OSPF NSSA ext 2
L   FF00::/8 [0/0]
     via Null0, receive

If I assign the /32 to an interface, even a loopback, I can see in the
routing table. I have 'ipv6 unicast-routing' in the config and 'ipv6
cef distributed' - but this one seems to be on by default. But CEF
doesn't know anything about the prefix either:

ASR1#sh ipv6 cef vrf Public  2407:7000::/32
%Prefix not found

any ideas?

kind regards
Pshem

From pshem.k at gmail.com  Tue Apr  7 21:13:04 2009
From: pshem.k at gmail.com (Pshem Kowalczyk)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:13:04 +1200
Subject: [c-nsp] ASR1004 - ipv6 static route in a vrf
In-Reply-To: <20fe625b0904071751o10fd57f8p4991d548f5e64bd1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20fe625b0904071751o10fd57f8p4991d548f5e64bd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20fe625b0904071813g5b82f6b9sb1dffa27715490fa@mail.gmail.com>

It was simpler then I though - there has to be at least one interface
with ipv6 configured for the static route to work.

kind regards
Pshem

From gsgranados at comcast.net  Tue Apr  7 21:36:23 2009
From: gsgranados at comcast.net (Scott Granados)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:36:23 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] rate limiting pointers?
Message-ID: <4F659EDCBCCC440DAD49883F36BDE65A@Toshiba>

Since the topic of rate limiting came up...

I have a 7206VXR NPE-300 and 2 switches (2960 and 3550).

I plan on setting up  a trunk from the 7206 to the 3500 and break out via vlans as you'd expect.  What are some good methods for rate limiting the individual ports on the access switches? 

I'm open to other hardware but this is more of a lab / personal environment so solutions for the listed hardware would be appreciated.  Could someone also suggest some good foundation type reading for rate limiting and practices?

Thank you
Scott

From nick.geyer at eds.com  Tue Apr  7 21:54:57 2009
From: nick.geyer at eds.com (Geyer, Nick)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:54:57 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP across continents
In-Reply-To: <8669CB1B-EDD9-49D5-9561-DDAF9D2C1D4F@gmail.com>
References: <ce2d38bb0904070722i14c37fc7nc927724a8e78ca6c@mail.gmail.com><5493710CC8A944FBA14A84C16722685A@Toshiba>
	<8669CB1B-EDD9-49D5-9561-DDAF9D2C1D4F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <83027F7A5EB4D6449A1393A94E4D41DA04D856C6@aubwm232.apac.corp.eds.com>

I have rolled out ASR1002/ESP5's as border routers in a few places now
and they perform fantastically.

Doing BGP, bogon filtering and basic ACL's, the highest usage ones I
have running in production at the moment push up to ~200Mbps sustained
and the routers don't even blink at it.

Definitely a good platform for the intended purpose, and kudos to Cisco
for not trying to cram it full of features at initial release, IOS XE
actually looks like a decent and stable platform =)


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Alasdair
McWilliam
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2009 7:34 AM
To: Scott Granados
Cc: Cisco NSP
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP across continents

*snip*

Any indication of how the ASR1002 +  
ESP5 will handle this? (I've not actually got my hands on an ASR yet  
so am not too sure how they will fare. However from the white papers  
I've read and from what others have said I'm quite hopeful they will  
last for years to come! ;)

Thanks very much
Alasdair


On 7 Apr 2009, at 18:50, Scott Granados wrote:

> There's the allow AS option or you could set up GRE tunnels between  
> sites and build a mesh.  If you use the same carrier in both  
> locations you could use the no-export option and play with more  
> specifics / traffic engineering on that level as well.  Remember  
> though if you start pushing to much traffic over the GRE you're  
> likely to have CPU load issues.  (depending on hardware)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alasdair McWilliam"
<alasdairm at gmail.com 
> >
> To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:22 AM
> Subject: [c-nsp] BGP across continents
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am setting up a multihomed hosting centre in Europe. As part of the
>> service offered we will be providing Disaster Recovery services,  
>> using
>> our ability to re-route customer IP prefixes, through to another
>> hosting centre in Canada.
>>
>> We have a requirement for some prefixes within our net block to  
>> always
>> be available in Canada, and some to always be available in Europe.  
>> So,
>> I am wondering if someone can clarify my thoughts re. the AS numbers
>> required for this: can I use the same ASN at both locations (both of
>> which will have different upstreams) or will they reject prefixes  
>> from
>> one another? For example, Canada will see a prefix from Europe with
>> the same ASN in the AS-Path and drop it. Likewise Europe will drop
>> Canada prefixes because it can see the same AS in the AS-Path.
>>
>> Is there any way around this or is the only option to request a  
>> second ASN?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Alasdair
>> _______________________________________________
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From gregariouspearl at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 00:36:07 2009
From: gregariouspearl at gmail.com (Muhammad Salman Zahid)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:36:07 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] rate limiting pointers?
In-Reply-To: <4F659EDCBCCC440DAD49883F36BDE65A@Toshiba>
References: <4F659EDCBCCC440DAD49883F36BDE65A@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <44c523750904072136u5c3c82c0scf20d47d5c2e3241@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Scott,

Read & try the following:


Step 1: Define ACL for desired IP Pools
Step 2: Define a Packet classification criteria
 Class-map match-all <traffic_class_name>
        description Control plane normal traffic
        match access-group name <Access_list_name>

Step 3: Define a Service Policy
        policy-map <service_policy_name>
        class <traffic_class_name>
        police cir <rate, bc(confirm burst) , be (excess burst)>
conform-action set-dscp-transmit default exceed-action drop violate-action
drop

Step 4: Enter service policy on control plane interface
        service-policy input <service_policy_name>
        service-policy output <service_policy_name>

ip access-list extended [ABC]
ip access-list extended [XYZ]
class-map match-all [NAME1]=== NAME1=ABC (so easily remember)
 match access-group name [ABC]
class-map match-all [NAME2]=== NAME2=XYZ (so easily remember)
 match access-group name [XYZ]
policy-map [POLICY NAME]
 class [ABC]
 put rate limit
 class [XYZ]
 put rate limit
Regards,
MSZ
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Scott Granados <gsgranados at comcast.net>wrote:

> Since the topic of rate limiting came up...
>
> I have a 7206VXR NPE-300 and 2 switches (2960 and 3550).
>
> I plan on setting up  a trunk from the 7206 to the 3500 and break out via
> vlans as you'd expect.  What are some good methods for rate limiting the
> individual ports on the access switches?
>
> I'm open to other hardware but this is more of a lab / personal environment
> so solutions for the listed hardware would be appreciated.  Could someone
> also suggest some good foundation type reading for rate limiting and
> practices?
>
> Thank you
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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>



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From ying-xiang at 163.com  Wed Apr  8 01:22:45 2009
From: ying-xiang at 163.com (ying-xiang)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:22:45 +0800 (CST)
Subject: [c-nsp] about eompls on 7609
Message-ID: <24825069.914261239168165588.JavaMail.coremail@bj163app105.163.com>

hi?
following is my topology brief?
 
SwitchA---PE1?7609-1?---PE2?7609-2?---SwitchB
 
Both switchA and switchB are configured a vlan100 to achieve layer two transport through EoMPLS and they works without any issue
but i got an error when i tried to set the same vlan id on the PEs
could anyone explain this for me ?
looking forward to your reply.

From gert at greenie.muc.de  Wed Apr  8 02:44:41 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:44:41 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
References: <20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>
	<49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>
	<EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <20090408064441.GE290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 05:23:17PM -0400, Bill Wichers wrote:
> I typically set both ends (router and switch) of these links to 100/full
> since I've seen weird autonegotiation problems before. This works just
> fine for individual FE links, but as soon as I bring up the Etherchannel
> group both member links on the router end drop back to "unknown duplex"
> (which the switch says is 100/half), and I can't figure out why my
> "full-duplex" config entry on each port magically disappears as soon as
> the Etherchannel group is brought up. That's the weird problem I'm
> trying to figure out...

A switch connected to a PA-FE-TX will never be able to figure out the
duplex settings on the PA-FE - because the PA can't tell it.  So you'll
always have to manually configure both sides for the desired duplex 
settings.

Now, in your case, I think you'll need to do some experimenting

 - set the switch to 100/full, run cisco ping tests (1000+ packets)
 - set the switch to 100/half, run cisco ping tests (1000+ packets)

if you get packet loss, you have a duplex mismatch...

If the setup *works* when set to 100/full, I'd classify the "unknown duplex"
thing as an artifact on the 7500 - given that the PA-FE cannot autonegotiate,
maybe the high-level code is just telling this to you "we don't know what's
the underlying physics".

If the setup needs 100/half on the switch side, I'd open a TAC case.

gert
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From sethm at rollernet.us  Wed Apr  8 03:14:52 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:14:52 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
Message-ID: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>

One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery: T3
or Ethernet. My outside world circuit experience is all non-Ethernet, so
I have a few questions the sales group wasn't able to answer. I'd love
to hear some real world experience. The cost difference between the two
is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not
using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the right
interface card.

How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.

Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something
like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and
it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
broken and I can't really tell you why".

With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health
check.

Since this is an outside world connection (i.e. I'm not in a colo) the
slightly lower cost and convenience factor of Ethernet doesn't override
my desire to stick with a T3 for its management properties and the
sleeping good at night feeling I get knowing there are no alarms. My gut
tells me to stick with it even though Ethernet delivery is what all the
cool kids are doing these days, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

~Seth

From r.tahina at moov.mg  Wed Apr  8 03:31:16 2009
From: r.tahina at moov.mg (RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:31:16 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] upload to 2 upstreams
In-Reply-To: <3c605ce10904072144q43079751i149e425a27d15ee7@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090407183213.04f15628@moov.mg>
	<3c605ce10904072144q43079751i149e425a27d15ee7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090408102917.042f2bf0@moov.mg>

Yes it's BGP.

At 07:44 08/04/2009, Aftab Siddiqui wrote:
>What routing protocol you are runnging with your upstream. It should 
>be BGP I guess.
>
>On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:36 PM, RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina 
><<mailto:r.tahina at moov.mg>r.tahina at moov.mg> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>We have two upstreams and our upload traffic is load balanced 
>between them, when one of them is down, how can I do to send all 
>output to the one which is still up?
>
>Regards.
>_______________________________________________
>cisco-nsp mailing 
>list  <mailto:cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
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>
>
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Aftab A. Siddiqui

From aj at sneep.net  Wed Apr  8 03:05:41 2009
From: aj at sneep.net (Alastair Johnson)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:05:41 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local><dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com><49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org>	<20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>	<49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>
	<EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <49DC4CC5.1030106@sneep.net>

Bill Wichers wrote:
> I typically set both ends (router and switch) of these links to 100/full
> since I've seen weird autonegotiation problems before. This works just
> fine for individual FE links, but as soon as I bring up the Etherchannel
> group both member links on the router end drop back to "unknown duplex"
> (which the switch says is 100/half), and I can't figure out why my
> "full-duplex" config entry on each port magically disappears as soon as
> the Etherchannel group is brought up. That's the weird problem I'm
> trying to figure out...

My experience with 7500 and Etherchannel, particularly if it's across 
multiple PA is to just give up.  I was never able to keep it running 
reliably under 12.0S, whether the the other end was a C2924 or C4006.

Best case is it would work for a while, then some magic duplex problem 
would pop up and make it explode spectacularly - usually after a reload 
or an OIR or other CxBus restart, and occasionally after DCEF dying... 
Usually it would involve one end being in FDX, the other end being in 
HDX or no-duplex at all - despite both ends being configured for 100/Full.

I hope you have better luck, but I wouldn't count on it.  ISTR that 12.0 
mainline and some of the sub-tree variants (12.1E?) had slightly less 
problematic issues with it.

aj

From Ian.Mackinnon at lumison.net  Wed Apr  8 04:11:10 2009
From: Ian.Mackinnon at lumison.net (Ian MacKinnon)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:11:10 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <B5F945E48C137C49A98BC86DD35939C012C8E82AB3@nbg01-exch-01.entlstaff.domain.lumison.net>

Hi Seth,

I think the world is moving to ethernet for what traditionally was a leased line, so you are only going to see more of it.

Don't forget in your cost calculations the CPE line card, compare the cost of a router (or switch) with a spare Ethernet port and one with a 2Meg serial card.
Also don't forget the cost of spares for each and every different serial card you need.

Yes, you are right you will see traffic blackholed, the interface is up/up, but there is no end to end connectivity.

Ian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: 08 April 2009 08:15
> To: cisco-nsp
> Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
>
> One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery: T3
> or Ethernet. My outside world circuit experience is all non-Ethernet,
> so
> I have a few questions the sales group wasn't able to answer. I'd love
> to hear some real world experience. The cost difference between the two
> is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not
> using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the right
> interface card.
>
> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
>
> Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something
> like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and
> it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
> broken and I can't really tell you why".
>
> With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
> same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a
> health
> check.
>
> Since this is an outside world connection (i.e. I'm not in a colo) the
> slightly lower cost and convenience factor of Ethernet doesn't override
> my desire to stick with a T3 for its management properties and the
> sleeping good at night feeling I get knowing there are no alarms. My
> gut
> tells me to stick with it even though Ethernet delivery is what all the
> cool kids are doing these days, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!
>
> ~Seth
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From justin at justinshore.com  Wed Apr  8 04:19:31 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:19:31 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GigE sub-int won't come up
In-Reply-To: <49DBDDDE.9010904@justinshore.com>
References: <49DBCB4D.8040207@justinshore.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0904071828110.9424@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
	<49DBDDDE.9010904@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <49DC5E13.6050502@justinshore.com>

Justin Shore wrote:
> Justin M. Streiner wrote:
>> Is there an active access port in VLAN 999 on the 4948, or somewhere 
>> downstream of it, assuming any neccessary trunking at the site is 
>> already in place?  I've seen VLANs not come up before, until there is 
>> actually a host in the VLAN.
> 
> There is an active switchport in 999 currently and 1001 before I 
> switched to 999.  I don't know that the 4948 could be the problem 
> though.  I've seen VLANs not come up until a port in the VLAN was active 
> as well but that's normally on a switch or a router with a switchport 
> (ISR w/ a Ethernet HWIC for example).  There isn't a mechanism to 
> advertise VLANs or their local status across a trunk that I'm aware of 
> (with VTP disabled at least).  VTP is transparent on the 4948 and not 
> configurable on the 7206.  I should be able to configure a dozen 1Q 
> sub-ints on a router's interface and have them be up/up regardless of 
> whether it's configured for use on the connected switch.  At least I'm 
> pretty sure I should be able to.

I had what was supposed to be a quick maintenance window tonight to bump 
the code rev on the 7200 and reboot.  I also did a minor rev update on 
the 4948.  I rebooted the 4948 first but after 10m it still hadn't come 
back up (I don't have OOB access to anything in that POP).  The 7200 
hadn't seen the interfaces come up.  I went ahead and did the 7200 while 
I was getting my things together to drive to that POP.  The 7200 never 
came back up either.  Joy.  Once I got onsite I found that both devices 
were in fact running.  The problem was that the GigE links on the 7200 
wouldn't come up.  Both the physical GigE interfaces and all their 
sub-ints were all up/down.  I started opening a TAC case at that point.

While the TAC operator waded through the tech options to try and figure 
out how to assign my case I thought about the problem some more, what 
Justin wrote earlier and my response about no VTP or VTP-like protocols 
in use jumped out at me.  I checked the config and sure enough I had CFM 
  and OAM (partially?) configured.  Don't they share link information 
including VLAN info?  I need to do more research on it and move the 
config to a lab environment.  As soon as I removed the CFM and OAM 
config from the 7200 the GigE links came up.  Not only that but all the 
sub-ints came up that I'd been fighting earlier.  My broken CFM or OAM 
or both config is what caused all these problems.

I was working with CFM and OAM after attending some MetroE training in 
SJC.  At the time my gear wasn't in production but now it is and I 
hadn't removed the config.  Does anyone have any good docs that clearly 
explain how to properly configure CFM, OAM and LMI?  I've found lots of 
docs that talk about it but none are terribly clear on exactly how to 
implement it and what's the BCP in certain environments.  Clearly what I 
was doing before wasn't right.  How to troubleshoot these protocols 
would also be very helpful.  Had I known that this is what was keeping 
the interface facing the 4948 down I could have fixed it from my 
recliner instead of taking a roadtrip to a remote POP.

Thanks for the info
  Justin


From emanuel.popa at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 04:28:26 2009
From: emanuel.popa at gmail.com (Emanuel Popa)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:28:26 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <49DB7D59.1030006@forthnet.gr>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DB7D59.1030006@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <4981ce080904080128u2c54312apb7917ec5759a0335@mail.gmail.com>

hi tassos,

i'm really scared when using a fairly new platform with a fairly new
software version. i would prefer paying more money for a more stable
device. and this fear of mine goes back to the SRB2 version for the
Cisco 7600 which is the worst thing that could happen for the 7600.
anyways, the platform is not even well documented on cisco.com so it
can not be included in our business case. i expect a management
decision ASAP as our links are pretty congested on single failures as
we speak.

regards,
manu


2009/4/7 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou <achatz at forthnet.gr>:
> Besides your choices, ASR 9000 should be out soon (its IOS XR Software is
> already available).
>
> --
> Tassos
>
> Emanuel Popa wrote on 07/04/2009 18:51:
>>
>> hi there,
>>
>> due to the increase in traffic volume in the last couple of years we
>> need to really think about the future of the network. we have deployed
>> and we are managing a 50GE multi-ring topology network with Cisco 7600
>> routers. i don't want to get into more details about ring topology
>> restrictions, platform limitations regarding wire speed, huge problems
>> with ether-channels or unpredictable load balancing behaviour. we've
>> been using these chassis since 2004 starting with STM-16 lines and the
>> PQ ratio looks pretty good so far.
>>
>> coming back to nowadays, 40GE or 100GE is not available yet, and even
>> if it was, the price would be probably unaffordable. and now the
>> question pops: what is the next step? the best answer is of course a
>> mix of multiple 10GE lines with traffic engineering and partial mesh
>> topology and 100GE ready chassis. first thing that comes to mind is
>> the CRS-1 platform, but it is really expensive: from under 15K per
>> 10GE port with the Cisco 7600 you have to pay more than 75K per 10GE
>> port with the CRS-1. so we have to take into consideration what are
>> the alternatives. i will try a short comparison:
>>
>> - Cisco CRS-1 16 Slot
>> --- max 64 x 10GE
>> --- max 32 links in a bundle
>> --- 40Gbps per slot
>> --- 100GE ready
>> --- multi-chassis ready
>> --- 10.920W max power
>> --- 723kg max weight
>> --- full rack space
>> --- $5.115.000,00/chassis
>> --- $79.921,88/10GE
>>
>> - Juniper T1600
>> --- max 64 x 10GE
>> --- max 16 links in a bundle
>> --- 100Gbps per slot
>> --- 100GE ready
>> --- multi-chassis ready
>> --- 8.352W max power
>> --- 274,88kg max weight
>> --- 1/2 rack space
>> --- $6.547.000,00/chassis
>> --- $102.296,88/10GE
>>
>> - Brocade/ Foundry NetIron XMR 16000
>> --- max 64 x 10GE
>> --- max 32 links in a bundle
>> --- 50Gbps per slot
>> --- 100GE ready (* only full slots)
>> --- single-chassis
>> --- 5.572W max power
>> --- 107,00kg max weight
>> --- 1/3 rack space
>> --- $567.515,00/chassis
>> --- $8.867,42/10GE
>>
>> I've also been looking at Huawei, Alcatel and HP gear but haven't been
>> able to find a device to support more than 24 x 10GE ports in a single
>> chassis.
>>
>> Here's what I'm trying to figure out:
>>
>> 1. are there any other devices on the market with same hardware
>> capabilities?
>>
>> 2. why the huge difference between foundry and cisco/juniper?
>>
>> 3. if foundry is so cheap why hasn't it gathered more market share?
>> instead it was bought by brocade a while ago...
>>
>> 4. is the netiron really a carrier router more than a carrier switch?
>> anybody experienced it?
>>
>> 5. how does the software perform when comparing with IOS XR and JunOS?
>>
>> Please, any comments are welcomed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Manu
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>
>

From sam_mailinglists at spacething.org  Wed Apr  8 06:26:06 2009
From: sam_mailinglists at spacething.org (Sam Stickland)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:26:06 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Max length of 9600 serial over CAT5e
Message-ID: <49DC7BBE.50906@spacething.org>

Hi,

What's the maximum length of you can run async-serial (9600 baud) over 
CAT5e (from a terminal server to console port).

My google-fu has failed me.

Sam


From richard.halfpenny at exa-networks.co.uk  Wed Apr  8 07:31:38 2009
From: richard.halfpenny at exa-networks.co.uk (Richard Halfpenny)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:31:38 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Max length of 9600 serial over CAT5e
In-Reply-To: <49DC7BBE.50906@spacething.org>
References: <49DC7BBE.50906@spacething.org>
Message-ID: <49DC8B1A.2000501@exa-networks.co.uk>

Sam Stickland wrote:
>  Hi,
>
>  What's the maximum length of you can run async-serial (9600 baud)
>  over CAT5e (from a terminal server to console port).
>
>  My google-fu has failed me.

If I remember correctly, the spec for RS-232 says the maximum 
capacitance of a cable can be 2500pF at 20kbps.  A Cat5e of approx 46pF 
/ metre would give you a maximum length of 54 metres.  At 9600bps you 
could probably drive slightly longer.

Rich

-- 
Network Operations
Exa Networks Ltd :: AS30740
richard.halfpenny at exa-networks.co.uk


From deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 08:09:39 2009
From: deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com (Deric Kwok)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:09:39 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 series for 100M
Message-ID: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

Do you know Cisco 2651XM is fine for 100M network?

If the memory is 256M, it is ok?

Can it support Virtual private network, VLAN and new tcsh command?

i check the ios is "C2600 Software (C2600-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version
12.3(23)"

Do I need to buy any extra memory?

Thank you

From gert at greenie.muc.de  Wed Apr  8 08:54:50 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:54:50 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <20090408125450.GL290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:14:52AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.

Run a routing protocol over it.

[..]
> With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
> same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health
> check.

Not necessarily so - even on a T3, you can have bad cables going just
one way, so you might have packet loss in your transmit direction.  The
provider would see (CRC) errors, but you might not see anything.

So you'll need to run ping...

(And yes, I know how you feel.  But the price difference between the
gear for SDH 2.4 Gbit equipment vs. 2 x 1Gbit ethernet links was so
overwhelming that we decided to go for ethernet... and for the same
price, we even got *two* links, so "no single point of failure")

gert
-- 
USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
                                                           //www.muc.de/~gert/
Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             gert at greenie.muc.de
fax: +49-89-35655025                        gert at net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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From cchurc05 at harris.com  Wed Apr  8 08:54:20 2009
From: cchurc05 at harris.com (Church, Charles)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:54:20 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <FA1BA229357DB640B944218F3585FECA0223B15A@mspe2k1.cs.myharris.net>

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:15 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?


>How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
>the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
>anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
>magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.

Object tracking can take care of this.  Or a dynamic routing protocol
(no connectivity, no neighbor).  You just need to be more careful in
your QoS.  A routed ethernet port has far more flexibility than a simple
switch port on most platforms.  You'll probably want to shape/police
your traffic outbound if your provided BW is exactly 10, 100, or gig.

From rshughes at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 09:09:50 2009
From: rshughes at gmail.com (Ryan Hughes)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:09:50 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <20090408125450.GL290@greenie.muc.de>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
	<20090408125450.GL290@greenie.muc.de>
Message-ID: <e44f1b0e0904080609v790d7472lf611c5478a256f7f@mail.gmail.com>

Generally my experience with Ethernet handoffs has been hit or miss
depending on what the carrier is delivering for the hand off - I've dealt
with some gear as you alluded to that doesn't down the CE hand off when the
circuit goes which turns into an interesting game of routing protocol timers
and EEM/IP SLA for neighbor tracking.

I've also run into situations where its best to traffic shape the port to
the CIR you're getting the provider on sub-rate Ethernet hand offs (you're
only paying for 45mb and you negotiating the physical to a gig with their
gear).

But yeah - the price and cost saving of not needing certain interface line
card for hand off is undeniable and has to be taken serious.

Ryan

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Gert Doering <gert at greenie.muc.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 12:14:52AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> > How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
> > the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> > anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> > magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
>
> Run a routing protocol over it.
>
> [..]
> > With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> > my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
> > same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health
> > check.
>
> Not necessarily so - even on a T3, you can have bad cables going just
> one way, so you might have packet loss in your transmit direction.  The
> provider would see (CRC) errors, but you might not see anything.
>
> So you'll need to run ping...
>
> (And yes, I know how you feel.  But the price difference between the
> gear for SDH 2.4 Gbit equipment vs. 2 x 1Gbit ethernet links was so
> overwhelming that we decided to go for ethernet... and for the same
> price, we even got *two* links, so "no single point of failure")
>
> gert
> --
> USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
>                                                           //
> www.muc.de/~gert/ <http://www.muc.de/%7Egert/>
> Gert Doering - Munich, Germany
> gert at greenie.muc.de
> fax: +49-89-35655025
> gert at net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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>

From jeff at ocjtech.us  Wed Apr  8 09:18:32 2009
From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:18:32 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <935ead450904080618k15aa5c2bo23acf3dac7005e9c@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Seth Mattinen <sethm at rollernet.us> wrote:
> One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery: T3
> or Ethernet.

I would go for Ethernet in a heartbeat.

> The cost difference between the two
> is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not
> using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the right
> interface card.

The cost difference on a ~40Mb/s circuit might not be much different
delivered via T3 or Ethernet, but what about anything faster?
Ethernet readily scales to 1Gb/s and 10Gb/s is not unreasonable these
days.  40Gb/s and 100Gb/s Ethernet will be here in a year or two.
Even if you start out with a 100Mb/s Ethernet port you won't have to
bond interfaces or move to more expensive electronics to go past
~40Mb/s.

> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.

There's nothing unique to Ethernet about that...

> Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something
> like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and
> it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
> broken and I can't really tell you why".

Stick a PC directly onto your WAN connection (or stick a switch in
there and use port spanning) and run Wireshark.  Try that with a T3
connection.

> With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
> same with Ethernet?

The Ethernet protocol includes CRC checks so most hardware will detect
packet errors.  Sure, the CRC isn't perfect and you can construct
pathological examples where corrupted packets will pass the CRC checks
but

> A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health
> check.

You'd want to do something like this anyway, since the alarms on a T3
are only a layer 1 check, pings check to make sure that things are
working at least up through layer 3.  As others have stated, running a
dynamic routing protocol across the link gives even more assurance
that packets aren't going into a black hole.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

From ler762 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 09:20:30 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:20:30 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904080620x78a45169w85987b426bd0eb8f@mail.gmail.com>

For us, price =is= the deciding factor.  A 45Mb ethernet service costs
us much less than a real T3.

We replaced a T3 circuit with a 45Mb ethernet service and then
discovered that the RTT went from 12ms on the T3 to 39ms on the
ethernet circuit.  Much discussion with the provider about
re-engineering the circuit to get the RTT down and then much more
waiting for them to schedule a service window ... and we've now got a
35ms RTT.

Another 'gotcha' is MTU size.  It's trivially easy to run IPSec over a
T3 without fragmenting packets.  Ethernet however...  we ended up
dumping one provider because they (w|c)ouldn't give us more than a
1524 [?not sure] byte MTU.

A nice thing about getting ethernet service is that more bandwidth is
just a phone call away.  We bumped the speed up from 45 to 100Mb and
are still paying less for the 100Mb ethernet service than we were for
the T3.   Still have that 35ms RTT though..

Input access lists that end with "deny ip any any log-input" are your
friend.  We just brought up a new circuit & I was seeing strange stuff
hitting our router.  Call the provider (who is my new love - the
person answering the phone was the person that fixed the problem ...
while I was on the phone!! ), give 'em the offending IP address and
get told it's a pure L2 network on their side.  *sigh*  change the
access-list from log to log-input, give him the offending MAC address,
he finds the offending box & fixes the config.

If you care at all about keeping your data private, put everything
inside an IPSec tunnel.  You have no idea who/what else is on that
same ethernet circuit.

If you care at all about throwing your packets into a black-hole, run
a routing protocol over the tunnel.

If you care at all about actually using the bandwidth you're paying
for, get the hardware crypto accelerator card for your platform.


> ... It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
> broken and I can't really tell you why".

Welcome to user-land :)   Just remember to act like a real user and
lie when they ask you to reboot the box & see if that fixes the
problem.

HTH,
Lee


On 4/8/09, Seth Mattinen <sethm at rollernet.us> wrote:
> One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery: T3
> or Ethernet. My outside world circuit experience is all non-Ethernet, so
> I have a few questions the sales group wasn't able to answer. I'd love
> to hear some real world experience. The cost difference between the two
> is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not
> using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the right
> interface card.
>
> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
>
> Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something
> like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and
> it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
> broken and I can't really tell you why".
>
> With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
> same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health
> check.
>
> Since this is an outside world connection (i.e. I'm not in a colo) the
> slightly lower cost and convenience factor of Ethernet doesn't override
> my desire to stick with a T3 for its management properties and the
> sleeping good at night feeling I get knowing there are no alarms. My gut
> tells me to stick with it even though Ethernet delivery is what all the
> cool kids are doing these days, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!
>
> ~Seth
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From ler762 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 09:38:14 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:38:14 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org> <20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>
	<49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>
	<EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904080638o5fa5d25apf1aec9525050ade3@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/7/09, Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net> wrote:
> [snip]
>> > ... and the context of *this* discussion is likely involving PA-FE-TX's,
>> > which are "quite old hardware", and cannot do any sort of autoneg.
>> >
>> True, so the ports should probably be nailed to full at both sides.
>
> Correct, they are PA-FE-TX's. There are two such PAs in a VIP2-50, and
> those are running the port channel.    <.. snip ..>
>
> I typically set both ends (router and switch) of these links to 100/full
> since I've seen weird autonegotiation problems before. This works just
> fine for individual FE links, but as soon as I bring up the Etherchannel
> group both member links on the router end drop back to "unknown duplex"

Can you configure the etherchannel group interface as 100/full?

Lee

From andreir at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 10:01:19 2009
From: andreir at gmail.com (Andrei Radu)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:01:19 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74206b240904080701t75420f7dqd1298597e246008c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Manu,

Well the Foundry MLX/XMR is a layer 2 switching platform that evolved
into a layer 3 switching platform that evolved into a mpls switching
platform much like the 6500/7600. The MLX and XMR are basically the
same hardware sold as the core switching platform and the core routing
platform (rings a bell ?). Also much like the 6500/7600 it has a TCAM
based forwarding engine, as opposed to the programmable ASIC the make
up the CRS or the Juniper forwarding engines, which in itself holds
many limitations. So you really are comparing apples and pears when
comparing the CRS/T-series with the XMR (or the 7600 for that matter).
This pretty much explains the price difference.

The software pretty similar to IOS (not XR) at least at the CLI level,
don't know about the internals. If you follow the foundry-nsp mailing
list, and also the ams-ix mailing list you will see that Foundry has
their share of software bugs, ranging from "normal" to forwarding
entries disappearing from the hardware fib.

Also if I remember correctly the MLX/XMRs are 40G/slot and not
50G/slot (although the platform is 100G/slot ready, actually decix
decided to migrate it's core to the Foundry MLX 32000 because Force10
is having trouble going to 100G/slot).

Hope this helps. Maybe the nanog or the f-nsp folks have a little more
info for you.

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Emanuel Popa <emanuel.popa at gmail.com> wrote:
> hi there,
>
> due to the increase in traffic volume in the last couple of years we
> need to really think about the future of the network. we have deployed
> and we are managing a 50GE multi-ring topology network with Cisco 7600
> routers. i don't want to get into more details about ring topology
> restrictions, platform limitations regarding wire speed, huge problems
> with ether-channels or unpredictable load balancing behaviour. we've
> been using these chassis since 2004 starting with STM-16 lines and the
> PQ ratio looks pretty good so far.
>
> coming back to nowadays, 40GE or 100GE is not available yet, and even
> if it was, the price would be probably unaffordable. and now the
> question pops: what is the next step? the best answer is of course a
> mix of multiple 10GE lines with traffic engineering and partial mesh
> topology and 100GE ready chassis. first thing that comes to mind is
> the CRS-1 platform, but it is really expensive: from under 15K per
> 10GE port with the Cisco 7600 you have to pay more than 75K per 10GE
> port with the CRS-1. so we have to take into consideration what are
> the alternatives. i will try a short comparison:
>
> - Cisco CRS-1 16 Slot
> --- max 64 x 10GE
> --- max 32 links in a bundle
> --- 40Gbps per slot
> --- 100GE ready
> --- multi-chassis ready
> --- 10.920W max power
> --- 723kg max weight
> --- full rack space
> --- $5.115.000,00/chassis
> --- $79.921,88/10GE
>
> - Juniper T1600
> --- max 64 x 10GE
> --- max 16 links in a bundle
> --- 100Gbps per slot
> --- 100GE ready
> --- multi-chassis ready
> --- 8.352W max power
> --- 274,88kg max weight
> --- 1/2 rack space
> --- $6.547.000,00/chassis
> --- $102.296,88/10GE
>
> - Brocade/ Foundry NetIron XMR 16000
> --- max 64 x 10GE
> --- max 32 links in a bundle
> --- 50Gbps per slot
> --- 100GE ready (* only full slots)
> --- single-chassis
> --- 5.572W max power
> --- 107,00kg max weight
> --- 1/3 rack space
> --- $567.515,00/chassis
> --- $8.867,42/10GE
>
> I've also been looking at Huawei, Alcatel and HP gear but haven't been
> able to find a device to support more than 24 x 10GE ports in a single
> chassis.
>
> Here's what I'm trying to figure out:
>
> 1. are there any other devices on the market with same hardware capabilities?
>
> 2. why the huge difference between foundry and cisco/juniper?
>
> 3. if foundry is so cheap why hasn't it gathered more market share?
> instead it was bought by brocade a while ago...
>
> 4. is the netiron really a carrier router more than a carrier switch?
> anybody experienced it?
>
> 5. how does the software perform when comparing with IOS XR and JunOS?
>
> Please, any comments are welcomed.
>
> Best regards,
> Manu
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-- 
Andrei

"2+2=5, for extremely large values of 2 !"

From SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca  Wed Apr  8 10:07:39 2009
From: SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca (Mesiatowsky, Shawn)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:07:39 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBED@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>

to detect a failure when the link is still up, you can use ip sla to ping the downstream router. You can then use embedded event manager to track your sla and trigger an event upon failure. The event could be to email you, send an snmp trap, or run a tcl script such as changing static routes. The embedded event manager in IOS is very powerful.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:15 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?

One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery: T3 or Ethernet. My outside world circuit experience is all non-Ethernet, so I have a few questions the sales group wasn't able to answer. I'd love to hear some real world experience. The cost difference between the two is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the right interface card.

How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.

Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's broken and I can't really tell you why".

With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health check.

Since this is an outside world connection (i.e. I'm not in a colo) the slightly lower cost and convenience factor of Ethernet doesn't override my desire to stick with a T3 for its management properties and the sleeping good at night feeling I get knowing there are no alarms. My gut tells me to stick with it even though Ethernet delivery is what all the cool kids are doing these days, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

~Seth
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From jlewis at lewis.org  Wed Apr  8 10:08:10 2009
From: jlewis at lewis.org (Jon Lewis)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:08:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <935ead450904080618k15aa5c2bo23acf3dac7005e9c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
	<935ead450904080618k15aa5c2bo23acf3dac7005e9c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904081001050.6312@soloth.lewis.org>

On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

>> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
>> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
>> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
>> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
>
> There's nothing unique to Ethernet about that...

No, but with ethernet, it's more likely that there's going to be a layer 2 
"local device" (i.e. a switch) which you connect to, but the layer 3 next 
hop is somewhere off on the providers network in another building.  When 
the network breaks somewhere between the provider's L3 next hop and your 
location, you'll still be up/up, but have no connectivity.  With BGP, you 
might tune the timers shorter than default so that such a break gets 
noticed sooner.  With a T3, BGP would find out about the break as soon as 
the interface went down.

With ethernet, it's also somewhat easier for your provider to screw things 
up.  I've dealt with several instances where a carrier managed to combine 
multiple customer VLANs and mix traffic to/from unrelated customers.  I've 
seen similar things once on a DS3 though, so it's not impossible 
there...just much less likely.

Ethernet is generally much cheaper for interfaces.

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  Senior Network Engineer     |  therefore you are
  Atlantic Net                |
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From jason at fidelityaccess.com  Wed Apr  8 10:11:57 2009
From: jason at fidelityaccess.com (Jason Gintert)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:11:57 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1943.1239196763.2460.cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Message-ID: <C60228ED.3157B%jason@fidelityaccess.com>

I would go with Ethernet services just for the sheer flexibility.  With
regard to your concerns of monitoring link state, you can use Ethernet
demarcation devices such as the ISG 2X series from Overture to solve that.
Think of it as an Ethernet "Smart Jack".  It provides some pretty neat
testing capabilities (looping, layer 2 ping, etc) and can do things like
fault propagation per EVC.  This means you can have a heartbeat across a
VLAN (you'll need Ethernet Demarcation devices on either side) so if the
heartbeat between devices is lost on the network side it can drop interface
state to your equipment facing ports.  Lastly, there are some great SLA
tools to verify your provider is giving you the service that you are paying
for.  I recommend them highly.

http://www.overturenetworks.com/products/name/ISG2x.html

Jason

> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:14:52 -0700
> From: Seth Mattinen <sethm at rollernet.us>
> Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
> To: cisco-nsp <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Message-ID: <49DC4EEC.3070001 at rollernet.us>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery: T3
> or Ethernet. My outside world circuit experience is all non-Ethernet, so
> I have a few questions the sales group wasn't able to answer. I'd love
> to hear some real world experience. The cost difference between the two
> is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not
> using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the right
> interface card.
> 
> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
> 
> Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something
> like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and
> it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
> broken and I can't really tell you why".
> 
> With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish the
> same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a health
> check.
> 
> Since this is an outside world connection (i.e. I'm not in a colo) the
> slightly lower cost and convenience factor of Ethernet doesn't override
> my desire to stick with a T3 for its management properties and the
> sleeping good at night feeling I get knowing there are no alarms. My gut
> tells me to stick with it even though Ethernet delivery is what all the
> cool kids are doing these days, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!
> 
> ~Seth


From dudepron at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 10:32:11 2009
From: dudepron at gmail.com (Aaron)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:32:11 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and 10GbE SPA
In-Reply-To: <49DAA86B.5070306@lists.esoteric.ca>
References: <fad2fb270904060622i3b24c8c2teb09e5b725bafe89@mail.gmail.com> 
	<49DAA86B.5070306@lists.esoteric.ca>
Message-ID: <480dad640904080732t1746096aie1c92ba31f712b21@mail.gmail.com>

It might be supported but you don't get 10GB with it.

Aaron

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 21:12, Stephen Fulton <sf at lists.esoteric.ca> wrote:

> According to the SIP/SPA compatibility matrix:
>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/interfaces_modules/shared_port_adapters/install_upgrade/7600series/76intro.html#wp1131939
>
> The SPA-1X10GE-L-V2 is compatible with SIP-400.
>
> As always, verify with your Cisco SE.
>
> -- Stephen
>
>
> MKS wrote:
>
>> Hi There
>>
>> According to cisco SIP-400 can
>> "Ability to run 4 GE line rate for 64-byte packets, and OC-48 line
>> rate for 48-byte packets for POS, HDLC, etc. with select services"
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps368/product_data_sheet0900aecd8027c9e6.html
>>
>> Can someone please clarify what exactly this means.
>>
>> Also if I put a 10GbE SPA into a SIP-400 what is the expected
>> performance of that?
>>
>> Thanks
>> //MKS
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From dudepron at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 10:42:46 2009
From: dudepron at gmail.com (Aaron)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:42:46 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Max length of 9600 serial over CAT5e
In-Reply-To: <49DC8B1A.2000501@exa-networks.co.uk>
References: <49DC7BBE.50906@spacething.org>
	<49DC8B1A.2000501@exa-networks.co.uk>
Message-ID: <480dad640904080742v3c7ed5a2g36d662f9782c99cd@mail.gmail.com>

Nom. Capacitance @ 1 KHz:15 pF/ft. for cat 5e

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 07:31, Richard Halfpenny <
richard.halfpenny at exa-networks.co.uk> wrote:

> Sam Stickland wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  What's the maximum length of you can run async-serial (9600 baud)
>>  over CAT5e (from a terminal server to console port).
>>
>>  My google-fu has failed me.
>>
>
> If I remember correctly, the spec for RS-232 says the maximum capacitance
> of a cable can be 2500pF at 20kbps.  A Cat5e of approx 46pF / metre would
> give you a maximum length of 54 metres.  At 9600bps you could probably drive
> slightly longer.
>
> Rich
>
> --
> Network Operations
> Exa Networks Ltd :: AS30740
> richard.halfpenny at exa-networks.co.uk
>
>
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From dudepron at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 11:25:42 2009
From: dudepron at gmail.com (Aaron)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:25:42 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 series for 100M
In-Reply-To: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <480dad640904080825o3f1103dj9ec0c595cf614172@mail.gmail.com>

You don't say want services you are planning on running. Full-bgp? That
would have an impact on memory requirements.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 08:09, Deric Kwok <deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Do you know Cisco 2651XM is fine for 100M network?
>
> If the memory is 256M, it is ok?
>
> Can it support Virtual private network, VLAN and new tcsh command?
>
> i check the ios is "C2600 Software (C2600-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version
> 12.3(23)"
>
> Do I need to buy any extra memory?
>
> Thank you
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From psirt at cisco.com  Wed Apr  8 12:01:39 2009
From: psirt at cisco.com (Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team)
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 2009 12:01:39 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco
	ASA Adaptive Security Appliance and Cisco PIX Security Appliances
Message-ID: <200904081201.asa@psirt.cisco.com>

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Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Vulnerabilities in Cisco ASA Adaptive
Security Appliance and Cisco PIX Security Appliances

Advisory ID: cisco-sa-20090408-asa

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20090408-asa.shtml

Revision 1.0

For Public Release 2009 April 08 1600 UTC (GMT)

Summary
=======

Multiple vulnerabilities exist in the Cisco ASA 5500 Series Adaptive
Security Appliances and Cisco PIX Security Appliances. This security
advisory outlines the details of these vulnerabilities:

  * VPN Authentication Bypass when Account Override Feature is Used
    vulnerability

  * Crafted HTTP packet denial of service (DoS) vulnerability

  * Crafted TCP Packet DoS vulnerability

  * Crafted H.323 packet DoS vulnerability

  * SQL*Net packet DoS vulnerability

  * Access control list (ACL) bypass vulnerability

Workarounds are available for some of the vulnerabilities.

This advisory is posted at
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20090408-asa.shtml.

Affected Products
=================

Vulnerable Products
+------------------

The following is a list of the products affected by each vulnerability
as described in detail within this advisory.

VPN Authentication Bypass Vulnerability
+--------------------------------------

Cisco ASA or Cisco PIX security appliances that are configured for IPsec
or SSL-based remote access VPN and have the Override Account Disabled
feature enabled are affected by this vulnerability.

Note: The Override Account Disabled feature was introduced in Cisco
ASA software version 7.1(1). Cisco ASA and PIX software versions 7.1,
7.2, 8.0, and 8.1 are affected by this vulnerability. This feature is
disabled by default.

Crafted HTTP Packet DoS Vulnerability
+------------------------------------

Cisco ASA security appliances may experience a device reload that can be
triggered by a series of crafted HTTP packets, when configured for SSL
VPNs or when configured to accept Cisco Adaptive Security Device Manager
(ASDM) connections. Only Cisco ASA software versions 8.0 and 8.1 are
affected by this vulnerability.

Crafted TCP Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-----------------------------------

Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX security appliances may experience a memory leak
that can be triggered by a series of crafted TCP packets. Cisco ASA and
Cisco PIX security appliances running versions 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, and
8.1 are affected when configured for any of the following features:

  * SSL VPNs
  * ASDM Administrative Access
  * Telnet Access
  * SSH Access
  * Cisco Tunneling Control Protocol (cTCP) for Remote Access VPNs
  * Virtual Telnet
  * Virtual HTTP
  * Transport Layer Security (TLS) Proxy for Encrypted Voice
    Inspection
  * Cut-Through Proxy for Network Access
  * TCP Intercept

Crafted H.323 Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-------------------------------------

Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX security appliances may experience a device
reload that can be triggered by a series of crafted H.323 packets, when
H.323 inspection is enabled. H.323 inspection is enabled by default.
Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX software versions 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, and 8.1
are affected by this vulnerability.

SQL*Net Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-------------------------------

Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX security appliances may experience a device
reload that can be triggered by a series of SQL*Net packets, when
SQL*Net inspection is enabled. SQL*Net inspection is enabled by default.
Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX software versions 7.2, 8.0, and 8.1 are affected
by this vulnerability.

Access Control List Bypass Vulnerability
+---------------------------------------

A vulnerability exists in the Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX security
appliances that may allow traffic to bypass the implicit deny behavior
at the end of ACLs that are configured within the device. Cisco ASA and
Cisco PIX software versions 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, and 8.0 are affected by this
vulnerability.

Determination of Software Versions
+---------------------------------

The "show version" command-line interface (CLI) command can be used to
determine whether a vulnerable version of the Cisco PIX or Cisco ASA
software is running. The following example shows a Cisco ASA Adaptive
Security Appliance that runs software version 8.0(4):

    ASA#show version

        Cisco Adaptive Security Appliance Software Version 8.0(4)
        Device Manager Version 6.0(1)

    <output truncated>

The following example shows a Cisco PIX security appliance that runs
software version 8.0(4):

    PIX#show version

    Cisco PIX Security Appliance Software Version 8.0(4)
    Device Manager Version 5.2(3)

    <output truncated>

Customers who use Cisco ASDM to manage their devices can find the
software version displayed in the table in the login window or in the
upper left corner of the ASDM window.

Products Confirmed Not Vulnerable
+--------------------------------

The Cisco Firewall Services Module (FWSM) for Cisco Catalyst 6500
Series switches and Cisco 7600 Series routers and Cisco VPN 3000 Series
Concentrators are not affected by any of these vulnerabilities. Cisco
PIX Security Appliance Software versions 6.x are not affected by any of
these vulnerabilities. No other Cisco products are currently known to be
affected by these vulnerabilities.

Details
=======

This Security Advisory describes multiple distinct vulnerabilities.
These vulnerabilities are independent of each other.

VPN Authentication Bypass Vulnerability
+--------------------------------------

The Cisco ASA or Cisco PIX security appliance can be configured to
override an account-disabled indication from a AAA server and allow
the user to log on anyway. However, the user must provide the correct
credentials in order to login to the VPN. A vulnerability exists in the
Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX security appliances where VPN users can bypass
authentication when the override account feature is enabled.

Note: The override account feature was introduced in Cisco ASA software
version 7.1(1).

The override account feature is enabled with the
"override-account-disable" command in "tunnel-group general-attributes"
configuration mode, as shown in the following example. The following
example allows overriding the "account-disabled" indicator from the AAA
server for the WebVPN tunnel group "testgroup":

    hostname(config)#tunnel-group testgroup type webvpn
    hostname(config)#tunnel-group testgroup general-attributes
    hostname(config-tunnel-general)#override-account-disable

Note: The override account feature is disabled by default.

This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsx47543 and has
been assigned Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifiers
CVE-2009-1155.

Crafted HTTP Packet DoS Vulnerability
+------------------------------------

A crafted SSL or HTTP packet may cause a DoS condition on a Cisco
ASA device that is configured to terminate SSL VPN connections. This
vulnerability can also be triggered to any interface where ASDM access
is enabled. A successful attack may result in a reload of the device. A
TCP three-way handshake is not needed to exploit this vulnerability.

This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsv52239 and has
been assigned Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifiers
CVE-2009-1156.

Crafted TCP Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-----------------------------------

A crafted TCP packet may cause a memory leak on a Cisco ASA or Cisco PIX
device. A successful attack may result in a sustained DoS condition.
A Cisco ASA device configured for any of the following features is
affected:

  * SSL VPNs
  * ASDM Administrative Access
  * Telnet Access
  * SSH Access
  * cTCP for Remote Access VPNs
  * Virtual Telnet
  * Virtual HTTP
  * TLS Proxy for Encrypted Voice Inspection
  * Cut-Through Proxy for Network Access
  * TCP Intercept

Note: This vulnerability may be triggered when crafted packets are sent
to any TCP based service that terminates on the affected device. The
vulnerability may also be triggered via transient traffic only if the
TCP intercept features has been enabled. A TCP three-way handshake is
not needed to exploit this vulnerability.

This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsy22484 and has
been assigned Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifiers
CVE-2009-1157.

Crafted H.323 Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-------------------------------------

A crafted H.323 packet may cause a DoS condition on a Cisco ASA device
that is configured with H.323 inspection. H.323 inspection is enabled by
default. A successful attack may result in a reload of the device. A TCP
three-way handshake is not needed to exploit this vulnerability.

This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsx32675 and has
been assigned Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifiers
CVE-2009-1158.

SQL*Net Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-------------------------------

The SQL*Net protocol consists of different packet types are handled by
the security appliance to make the data stream appear consistent to the
Oracle version 7.x and earlier implementations on either side of the
Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX security appliances. A series of SQL*Net packets
may cause a denial of service condition on a Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX
device that is configured with SQL*Net inspection. SQL*Net inspection is
enabled by default. A successful attack may result in a reload of the
device.

The default port assignment for SQL*Net is TCP port 1521. This is the
value used by Oracle for SQL*Net. Please note the "class-map" command
can be used in the Cisco ASA or Cisco PIX to apply SQL*Net inspection
to a range of different port numbers. A TCP three-way handshake is
needed to exploit this vulnerability. The requirement of a TCP three way
handshake significantly reduces the possibility of exploitation using
packets with spoofed source addresses.

This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsw51809 and has
been assigned Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifiers
CVE-2009-1159.

Access Control List Bypass Vulnerability
+---------------------------------------

Access lists have an implicit deny behavior that is applied to packets
that have not matched any of the permit or deny ACEs in an ACL and reach
the end of the ACL. This implicit deny is there by design, does not
require any configuration and can be understood as an implicit ACE that
denies all traffic reaching the end of the ACL. A vulnerability exists
in the Cisco ASA and Cisco PIX that may allow traffic to bypass the
implicit deny ACE.

Note: This behavior only impacts the implicit deny statement on any
ACL applied on the device. Access control lists with explicit deny
statements are not affected by this vulnerability. This vulnerability is
experienced in very rare occasions and extremely hard to reproduce.

You can trace the lifespan of a packet through the security appliance
to see whether the packet is operating correctly with the packet tracer
tool. The "packet-tracer" command provides detailed information about
the packets and how they are processed by the security appliance. If a
command from the configuration did not cause the packet to drop, the
"packet-tracer" command will provide information about the cause in an
easily readable manner. You can use this feature to see if the implicit
deny on an ACL is not taking effect. The following example shows that
the implicit deny is bypassed (result = ALLOW):

    <output truncated>
    ...
    Phase: 2
    Type: ACCESS-LIST
    Subtype:
    Result: ALLOW
    Config:
    Implicit Rule
    Additional Information:
     Forward Flow based lookup yields rule:
     in  id=0x1a09d350, priority=1, domain=permit, deny=false
            hits=1144595557, user_data=0x0, cs_id=0x0, l3_type=0x8
            src mac=0000.0000.0000, mask=0000.0000.0000
            dst mac=0000.0000.0000, mask=0000.0000.0000

    <output truncated>

This vulnerability is documented in Cisco Bug ID CSCsq91277 and has
been assigned Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) identifiers
CVE-2009-1160.

Vulnerability Scoring Details
+----------------------------

Cisco has provided scores for the vulnerabilities in this advisory based
on the Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS). The CVSS scoring in
this Security Advisory is done in accordance with CVSS version 2.0.

CVSS is a standards-based scoring method that conveys vulnerability
severity and helps determine urgency and priority of response.

Cisco has provided a base and temporal score. Customers can then
compute environmental scores to assist in determining the impact of the
vulnerability in individual networks.

Cisco has provided an FAQ to answer additional questions regarding
CVSS at:

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/cvss-qandas.html

Cisco has also provided a CVSS calculator to help compute the
environmental impact for individual networks at:

http://intellishield.cisco.com/security/alertmanager/cvss

* AAA account-override-ignore allows VPN session without correct
password (CSCsx47543)

CVSS Base Score - 7.8
    Access Vector -            Network
    Access Complexity -        Low
    Authentication -           None
    Confidentiality Impact -   Complete
    Integrity Impact -         None
    Availability Impact -      None

CVSS Temporal Score - 6.8
    Exploitability -           High
    Remediation Level -        Official-Fix
    Report Confidence -        Confirmed

* Cisco ASA may crash with certain HTTP packets (CSCsv52239)

CVSS Base Score - 7.8
    Access Vector -            Network
    Access Complexity -        Low
    Authentication -           None
    Confidentiality Impact -   None
    Integrity Impact -         None
    Availability Impact -      Complete

CVSS Temporal Score - 6.4
    Exploitability -           Functional
    Remediation Level -        Official-Fix
    Report Confidence -        Confirmed

* Cisco ASA may crash after processing certain TCP packets (CSCsy22484)

CVSS Base Score - 7.8
    Access Vector -            Network
    Access Complexity -        Low
    Authentication -           None
    Confidentiality Impact -   None
    Integrity Impact -         None
    Availability Impact -      Complete

CVSS Temporal Score - 6.4
    Exploitability -           Functional
    Remediation Level -        Official-Fix
    Report Confidence -        Confirmed

* Crafted H.323 packet may cause ASA to reload (CSCsx32675)

CVSS Base Score - 7.8
    Access Vector -            Network
    Access Complexity -        Low
    Authentication -           None
    Confidentiality Impact -   None
    Integrity Impact -         None
    Availability Impact -      Complete

CVSS Temporal Score - 6.4
    Exploitability -           Functional
    Remediation Level -        Official-Fix
    Report Confidence -        Confirmed

* sqlnet traffic causes traceback with inspection configured
(CSCsw51809)

CVSS Base Score - 7.8
    Access Vector -            Network
    Access Complexity -        Low
    Authentication -           None
    Confidentiality Impact -   None
    Integrity Impact -         None
    Availability Impact -      Complete

CVSS Temporal Score - 6.4
    Exploitability -           High
    Remediation Level -        Official-Fix
    Report Confidence -        Confirmed

* ACL Misbehavior in Cisco ASA (CSCsq91277)

CVSS Base Score - 4.3
    Access Vector -            Network
    Access Complexity -        Medium
    Authentication -           None
    Confidentiality Impact -   Partial
    Integrity Impact -         None
    Availability Impact -      None

CVSS Temporal Score - 3.6
    Exploitability -           Functional
    Remediation Level -        Official-Fix
    Report Confidence -        Confirmed

Impact
======

Successful exploitation of the VPN Authentication Bypass when Account
Override Feature is Used vulnerability may allow an attacker to
successfully connect to the Cisco ASA via remote access IPSec or
SSL-based VPN. The Denial of Service (DoS) vulnerabilities may cause a
reload of the affected device. Repeated exploitation could result in
a sustained DoS condition. Successful exploitation of the ACL bypass
vulnerability may allow an attacker to access resources that should be
protected by the Cisco ASA.

Software Versions and Fixes
===========================

When considering software upgrades, also consult
http://www.cisco.com/go/psirt and any subsequent advisories to determine
exposure and a complete upgrade solution.

In all cases, customers should exercise caution to be certain the
devices to be upgraded contain sufficient memory and that current
hardware and software configurations will continue to be supported
properly by the new release. If the information is not clear, contact
the Cisco Technical Assistance Center (TAC) or your contracted
maintenance provider for assistance.

The following table contains the first fixed software release of each
vulnerability. The "Recommended Release" row indicates the releases
which have fixes for all the published vulnerabilities at the time
of this Advisory. A device running a version of the given release in
a specific row (less than the First Fixed Release) is known to be
vulnerable. Cisco recommends upgrading to a release equal to or later
than the release in the "Recommended Release" row of the table.

+------------------------------------------------------+
|                | Affected |   First    | Recommended |
| Vulnerability  | Release  |   Fixed    |   Release   |
|                |          |  Version   |             |
|----------------+----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.0      | Not        | 7.0(8)6     |
| VPN            |          | vulnerable |             |
|Authentication  |----------+------------+-------------|
| Bypass when    | 7.1      | 7.1(2)82   | 7.1(2)82    |
|Account         |----------+------------+-------------|
| Override       | 7.2      | 7.2(4)27   | 7.2(4)30    |
|Feature is      |----------+------------+-------------|
| Used           | 8.0      | 8.0(4)25   | 8.0(4)28    |
|Vulnerability   |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.1      | 8.1(2)15   | 8.1(2)19    |
|----------------+----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.0      | Not        | 7.0(8)6     |
|                |          | vulnerable |             |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.1      | Not        | 7.1(2)82    |
| Crafted HTTP   |          | vulnerable |             |
|packet DoS      |----------+------------+-------------|
| Vulnerability  | 7.2      | Not        | 7.2(4)30    |
|                |          | vulnerable |             |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.0      | 8.0(4)25   | 8.0(4)28    |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.1      | 8.1(2)15   | 8.1(2)16    |
|----------------+----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.0      | 7.0(8)6    | 7.0(8)6     |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.1      | 7.1(2)82   | 7.1(2)82    |
|Crafted TCP     |----------+------------+-------------|
| Packet DoS     | 7.2      | 7.2(4)30   | 7.2(4)30    |
|Vulnerability   |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.0      | 8.0(4)28   | 8.0(4)28    |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.1      | 8.1(2)19   | 8.1(2)19    |
|----------------+----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.0      | 7.0(8)6    | 7.0(8)6     |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.1      | 7.1(2)82   | 7.1(2)82    |
|Crafted H.323   |----------+------------+-------------|
| packet DoS     | 7.2      | 7.2(4)26   | 7.2(4)30    |
|Vulnerability   |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.0      | 8.0(4)24   | 8.0(4)28    |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.1      | 8.1(2)14   | 8.1(2)19    |
|----------------+----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.0      | Not        | 7.0(8)6     |
|                |          | vulnerable |             |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.1      | Not        | 7.1(2)82    |
| Crafted SQL    |          | vulnerable |             |
|packet DoS      |----------+------------+-------------|
| vulnerability  | 7.2      | 7.2(4)26   | 7.2(4)30    |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.0      | 8.0(4)22   | 8.0(4)28    |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.1      | 8.1(2)12   | 8.1(2)19    |
|----------------+----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.0      | 7.0(8)1    | 7.0(8)6     |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 7.1      | 7.1(2)74   | 7.1(2)82    |
|Access control  |----------+------------+-------------|
| list (ACL)     | 7.2      | 7.2(4)9    | 7.2(4)30    |
|bypass          |----------+------------+-------------|
| vulnerability  | 8.0      | 8.0(4)5    | 8.0(4)28    |
|                |----------+------------+-------------|
|                | 8.1      | Not        | 8.1(2)19    |
|                |          | vulnerable |             |
+------------------------------------------------------+

Fixed Cisco ASA software can be downloaded from:

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/ASAPSIRT

Fixed Cisco PIX software can be downloaded from:

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/PIXPSIRT

Workarounds
===========

This Security Advisory describes multiple distinct vulnerabilities.
These vulnerabilities and their respective workarounds are independent
of each other.

VPN Authentication Bypass Vulnerability
+--------------------------------------

The override account feature is enabled with the
"override-account-disable" command in "tunnel-group general-attributes"
configuration mode. As a workaround, disable this feature using the "no
override-account-disable" command.

Crafted HTTP Packet DoS Vulnerability
+------------------------------------

Devices configured for SSL VPN (clientless or client-based) or accepting
ASDM management connections are vulnerable.

Note: IPSec clients are not vulnerable to this vulnerability.

If SSL VPN (clientless or client-based) is not used, administrators
should make sure that ASDM connections are only allowed from trusted
hosts.

To identify the IP addresses from which the security appliance
accepts HTTPS connections for ASDM, configure the "http" command for
each trusted host address or subnet. The following example, shows
how a trusted host with IP address 192.168.1.100 is added to the
configuration:

    hostname(config)# http 192.168.1.100 255.255.255.255

Crafted TCP Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-----------------------------------

There are no workarounds for this vulnerability.

Crafted H.323 Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-------------------------------------

H.323 inspection should be disabled if it is not needed. Temporarily
disabling the feature will mitigate this vulnerability. H.323 inspection
can be disabled with the command "no inspect h323".

SQL*Net Packet DoS Vulnerability
+-------------------------------

SQL*Net inspection should be disabled if it is not needed. Temporarily
disabling the feature will mitigate this vulnerability. SQL*Net
inspection can be disabled with the command "no inspect sqlnet".

Access Control List (ACL) Bypass Vulnerability
+---------------------------------------------

As a workaround, remove the "access-group" line applied on the interface
where the ACL is configured and re-apply it. For example:

    ASA(config)#no access-group acl-inside in interface inside
    ASA(config)#access-group acl-inside in interface inside

In the previous example the access group called "acl-inside" is removed
and reapplied to the inside interface. Alternatively, you can add an
explicit "deny ip any any" line in the bottom of the ACL applied on that
interface. For example:

    ASA(config)#access-list 100 deny ip any any

In the previous example, an explicit deny for all IP traffic is added at
the end of "access-list 100".

Additional mitigations that can be deployed on Cisco devices within the
network are available in the Cisco Applied Mitigation Bulletin companion
document for this advisory, which is available at the following link:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-amb-20090408-asa.shtml.

Obtaining Fixed Software
========================

Cisco has released free software updates that address these
vulnerabilities. Prior to deploying software, customers should consult
their maintenance provider or check the software for feature set
compatibility and known issues specific to their environment.

Customers may only install and expect support for the feature
sets they have purchased. By installing, downloading, accessing
or otherwise using such software upgrades, customers agree to be
bound by the terms of Cisco's software license terms found at
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/prod_warranties_item09186a008088e31f.html,
or as otherwise set forth at Cisco.com Downloads at
http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/sw-usingswc.shtml.

Do not contact psirt at cisco.com or security-alert at cisco.com for software
upgrades.

Customers with Service Contracts
+-------------------------------

Customers with contracts should obtain upgraded software through their
regular update channels. For most customers, this means that upgrades
should be obtained through the Software Center on Cisco's worldwide
website at http://www.cisco.com.

Customers using Third Party Support Organizations
+------------------------------------------------

Customers whose Cisco products are provided or maintained through prior
or existing agreements with third-party support organizations, such
as Cisco Partners, authorized resellers, or service providers should
contact that support organization for guidance and assistance with the
appropriate course of action in regards to this advisory.

The effectiveness of any workaround or fix is dependent on specific
customer situations, such as product mix, network topology, traffic
behavior, and organizational mission. Due to the variety of affected
products and releases, customers should consult with their service
provider or support organization to ensure any applied workaround or fix
is the most appropriate for use in the intended network before it is
deployed.

Customers without Service Contracts
+----------------------------------

Customers who purchase direct from Cisco but do not hold a Cisco service
contract, and customers who purchase through third-party vendors but are
unsuccessful in obtaining fixed software through their point of sale
should acquire upgrades by contacting the Cisco Technical Assistance
Center (TAC). TAC contacts are as follows.

  * +1 800 553 2447 (toll free from within North America)
  * +1 408 526 7209 (toll call from anywhere in the world)
  * e-mail: tac at cisco.com

Customers should have their product serial number available and be
prepared to give the URL of this notice as evidence of entitlement to a
free upgrade. Free upgrades for non-contract customers must be requested
through the TAC.

Refer to
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/support/tsd_cisco_worldwide_contacts.html
for additional TAC contact information, including localized telephone
numbers, and instructions and e-mail addresses for use in various
languages.

Exploitation and Public Announcements
=====================================

The Cisco PSIRT is not aware of any public announcements or malicious
use of the vulnerability described in this advisory.

The crafted TCP packet DoS vulnerability was discovered and reported
to Cisco by Gregory W. MacPherson and Robert J. Combo from Verizon
Business.

The ACL bypass vulnerability was reported to Cisco by Jon Ramsey and
Jeff Jarmoc from SecureWorks.

The Cisco PSIRT greatly appreciates the opportunity to work with
researchers on security vulnerabilities, and welcomes the opportunity to
review and assist in product reports.

All other vulnerabilities were found during internal testing and during
the resolution of customer service requests.

Status of this Notice: FINAL
============================

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http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20090408-asa.shtml

In addition to worldwide web posting, a text version of this notice is
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Future updates of this advisory, if any, will be placed on Cisco's
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lists or newsgroups. Users concerned about this problem are encouraged
to check the above URL for any updates.

Revision History
================

+------------------------------------------------------------+
| Revision 1.0  | 2009-April-08  | Initial public release.   |
+------------------------------------------------------------+

Cisco Security Procedures
=========================

Complete information on reporting security vulnerabilities
in Cisco products, obtaining assistance with security
incidents, and registering to receive security information
from Cisco, is available on Cisco's worldwide website at
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/products_security_vulnerability_policy.html.
This includes instructions for press inquiries regarding
Cisco security notices. All Cisco security advisories are available at
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Wed Apr  8 12:03:41 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:03:41 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] about eompls on 7609
In-Reply-To: <24825069.914261239168165588.JavaMail.coremail@bj163app105.163.com>
References: <24825069.914261239168165588.JavaMail.coremail@bj163app105.163.com>
Message-ID: <1239206621.3496.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 13:22 +0800, ying-xiang wrote:
> following is my topology brief?
>  
> SwitchA---PE1?7609-1?---PE2?7609-2?---SwitchB
>  
> Both switchA and switchB are configured a vlan100 to achieve layer two
> transport through EoMPLS and they works without any issue
> but i got an error when i tried to set the same vlan id on the PEs
> could anyone explain this for me ?

You really should post the error you got, that would make it much easier
to answer the question. :-)

The 7600 cannot have VLAN ID overlap between interfaces on LAN cards.
This means that using a VLAN on a subinterface, as you do with
subint-EoMPLS, means you cannot also perform regular switching of this
VLAN.

It's a platform limitation.

Regards,
Peter



From Mike.Anning at chep.com  Wed Apr  8 12:15:51 2009
From: Mike.Anning at chep.com (Anning, Mike)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 17:15:51 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] show dot11 network-map
In-Reply-To: <9e246b4d0904061302l1f2c5ad7rec292c3b986052cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FD3DDA43AA5D51439C86177C169811710A21DF@ukweymx01.chep.com>



Anyone know if the show dot11 network-map output on 1200 series access
points shows either;

1. neighbouring access points it can see over the dot11 radio interface

2. neighbouring access points it can see over the wire within the same
subnet


I am thinking option 2 but cannot find anything conclusive.


Many thanks in advance
Mike









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From billw at waveform.net  Wed Apr  8 12:58:49 2009
From: billw at waveform.net (Bill Wichers)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:58:49 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B22@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>

I've found that some carriers consider Ethernet something of a "toy"
whereas TDM and SONET circuits are considered more "mission critical".
Basically our local engineering gusy say that the Ethernet links are
just a "bunch of jumpers in COs", and by that they mean a single link
patched through to where it needs to go with no protection or management
anywhere. The T3 links, while not always path diverse, are typically at
least provisioned as 4 fiber handoffs within the carrier's network so
you at least have some protection against a dead optic. This seems to be
especially an issue for intercity links since the T3s are typically
protected around a ring between the cities and the Ethernet rarely, if
ever, is protected at all. This is just the ILEC (ATT here) though, most
of the CLECs offer protection options for their Ethernet offerings.

Personally I've been burned before with carriers not provisioning
circuits as "protected" as one would expect (which includes TDM/SONET
links). I try to keep all our core links on our own fiber where we
control the physical routing and protection, but we have a few remote
POPs that are not economical to build fiber to and those are the ones
with the leased links. I'm not a big fan of Ethernet for the links to
these POPs, but the Ethernet links we use from our gear to the customer
premises do tend to work OK.

Regarding monitoring, use a routing protocol that has keepalives to
detect an outage. If you are using a switch you can probably determine
link state on the circuit too (although this probably won't give you an
indication of end-to-end circuit status since the carrier probably has a
switch serving you that will give you a link regardless of the "rest" of
the circuit working). 

   -Bill


> One of my carriers has given me a choice for a new circuit delivery:
T3
> or Ethernet. My outside world circuit experience is all non-Ethernet,
so
> I have a few questions the sales group wasn't able to answer. I'd love
> to hear some real world experience. The cost difference between the
two
> is not significant enough to be the sole deciding factor and I'm not
> using pure-Ethernet platforms so it's just a matter of adding the
right
> interface card.
> 
> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is
that
> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
> 
> Can you even troubleshoot Ethernet? Normally if I'm seeing something
> like out of frame errors or AIS, I can say "hey, there's a problem and
> it's X". It scares me to think of opening trouble tickets as "it's
> broken and I can't really tell you why".
> 
> With a T3 I can be fairly certain that if there aren't any alarms that
> my end is happily talking to the other end. How does one accomplish
the
> same with Ethernet? A periodic "ping" seems rather ambiguous as a
health
> check.
> 
> Since this is an outside world connection (i.e. I'm not in a colo) the
> slightly lower cost and convenience factor of Ethernet doesn't
override
> my desire to stick with a T3 for its management properties and the
> sleeping good at night feeling I get knowing there are no alarms. My
gut
> tells me to stick with it even though Ethernet delivery is what all
the
> cool kids are doing these days, so any insight is appreciated. Thanks!
> 
> ~Seth
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From billw at waveform.net  Wed Apr  8 13:03:30 2009
From: billw at waveform.net (Bill Wichers)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:03:30 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Max length of 9600 serial over CAT5e
In-Reply-To: <49DC8B1A.2000501@exa-networks.co.uk>
References: <49DC7BBE.50906@spacething.org>
	<49DC8B1A.2000501@exa-networks.co.uk>
Message-ID: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B23@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>

RS-232 has more limitations than just cable capacitance. RS-232 is a
single-ended communication protocol (on the physical level), so it's
noise immunity is not very good. This is especially a problem if you're
running the cable in an electrically noisy environment (like a cable
tray or wiring closet(s), etc.).

If you need to run a long distance, why not just convert your RS-232
signal to RS-422 where you can safely run a 9600bps signal out to over a
kilometer? All you need is a 2 pair cable, ideally with a shield,
provided you don't need hardware flow control. The converters are
usually cheap, maybe $50 or so per end unless you need electrical
isolation.

   -Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Richard Halfpenny
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:32 AM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Max length of 9600 serial over CAT5e
> 
> Sam Stickland wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> >  What's the maximum length of you can run async-serial (9600 baud)
> >  over CAT5e (from a terminal server to console port).
> >
> >  My google-fu has failed me.
> 
> If I remember correctly, the spec for RS-232 says the maximum
> capacitance of a cable can be 2500pF at 20kbps.  A Cat5e of approx
46pF
> / metre would give you a maximum length of 54 metres.  At 9600bps you
> could probably drive slightly longer.
> 
> Rich
> 
> --
> Network Operations
> Exa Networks Ltd :: AS30740
> richard.halfpenny at exa-networks.co.uk
> 
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From mohacsi at niif.hu  Wed Apr  8 13:05:55 2009
From: mohacsi at niif.hu (Mohacsi Janos)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:05:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 series for 100M
In-Reply-To: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0904081902080.43697@mignon.ki.iif.hu>

According to Cisco:
265x(XM) is capable for the following performance for IP packets:

in CEF switching: 40000 PPS and around 21 Mbps




Janos Mohacsi
Network Engineer, Research Associate, Head of Network Planning and Projects
NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY
Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F  4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882

On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Deric Kwok wrote:

> Hi
>
> Do you know Cisco 2651XM is fine for 100M network?
>
> If the memory is 256M, it is ok?
>
> Can it support Virtual private network, VLAN and new tcsh command?
>
> i check the ios is "C2600 Software (C2600-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version
> 12.3(23)"
>
> Do I need to buy any extra memory?
>
> Thank you
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From sethm at rollernet.us  Wed Apr  8 13:36:56 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:36:56 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Max length of 9600 serial over CAT5e
In-Reply-To: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B23@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
References: <49DC7BBE.50906@spacething.org>	<49DC8B1A.2000501@exa-networks.co.uk>
	<EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B23@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <49DCE0B8.3070403@rollernet.us>

Bill Wichers wrote:
> RS-232 has more limitations than just cable capacitance. RS-232 is a
> single-ended communication protocol (on the physical level), so it's
> noise immunity is not very good. This is especially a problem if you're
> running the cable in an electrically noisy environment (like a cable
> tray or wiring closet(s), etc.).
> 
> If you need to run a long distance, why not just convert your RS-232
> signal to RS-422 where you can safely run a 9600bps signal out to over a
> kilometer? All you need is a 2 pair cable, ideally with a shield,
> provided you don't need hardware flow control. The converters are
> usually cheap, maybe $50 or so per end unless you need electrical
> isolation.
> 

I'll second the 422. It's not worth running 232 for long distances. The
converter cost is trivial. Plus if you're stuck running serial through a
1/2" conduit not having that DB9 connector makes the job so much easier.

~Seth

From sethm at rollernet.us  Wed Apr  8 13:48:46 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:48:46 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B22@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
	<EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B22@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <49DCE37E.4070908@rollernet.us>

Bill Wichers wrote:
> I've found that some carriers consider Ethernet something of a "toy"
> whereas TDM and SONET circuits are considered more "mission critical".
> Basically our local engineering gusy say that the Ethernet links are
> just a "bunch of jumpers in COs", and by that they mean a single link
> patched through to where it needs to go with no protection or management
> anywhere. The T3 links, while not always path diverse, are typically at
> least provisioned as 4 fiber handoffs within the carrier's network so
> you at least have some protection against a dead optic. This seems to be
> especially an issue for intercity links since the T3s are typically
> protected around a ring between the cities and the Ethernet rarely, if
> ever, is protected at all. This is just the ILEC (ATT here) though, most
> of the CLECs offer protection options for their Ethernet offerings.

Good to know; mine is going a POP in another state since where I am
isn't exactly a major stop on the internet for anyone to put an L3 POP
in state.


> Personally I've been burned before with carriers not provisioning
> circuits as "protected" as one would expect (which includes TDM/SONET
> links). I try to keep all our core links on our own fiber where we
> control the physical routing and protection, but we have a few remote
> POPs that are not economical to build fiber to and those are the ones
> with the leased links. I'm not a big fan of Ethernet for the links to
> these POPs, but the Ethernet links we use from our gear to the customer
> premises do tend to work OK.
> 
> Regarding monitoring, use a routing protocol that has keepalives to
> detect an outage. If you are using a switch you can probably determine
> link state on the circuit too (although this probably won't give you an
> indication of end-to-end circuit status since the carrier probably has a
> switch serving you that will give you a link regardless of the "rest" of
> the circuit working). 
> 

I probably should have mentioned that I will be running BGP. I have an
existing multihomed network and this circuit will be just adding another
transit circuit.

For added fun, they're going to use some circa 1997 existing fiber
equipment (thus qualifying for lit building pricing), complete with a
blinking "fault" light on one side of the ring. I will make them aware
of that before I sign anything. ;)

~Seth

From sethm at rollernet.us  Wed Apr  8 13:48:44 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:48:44 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904081001050.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
	<935ead450904080618k15aa5c2bo23acf3dac7005e9c@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0904081001050.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
Message-ID: <49DCE37C.1030809@rollernet.us>

Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> 
>>> How do you detect a "down" condition on Ethernet? My experience is that
>>> the interface could be up/up because Ethernet doesn't know about
>>> anything further down the line and ends up throwing packets into a
>>> magical black hole. Or worse, secret packet loss.
>>
>> There's nothing unique to Ethernet about that...
> 
> No, but with ethernet, it's more likely that there's going to be a layer
> 2 "local device" (i.e. a switch) which you connect to, but the layer 3
> next hop is somewhere off on the providers network in another building. 
> When the network breaks somewhere between the provider's L3 next hop and
> your location, you'll still be up/up, but have no connectivity.  With
> BGP, you might tune the timers shorter than default so that such a break
> gets noticed sooner.  With a T3, BGP would find out about the break as
> soon as the interface went down.

In my case the next L3 hop is going to be in another state. For example
with Sprint, I'm in Reno, NV and their router is in Stockton, CA.

As far as the actual equipment, it will be an HWIC-1FE (HWIC-1GE-SFP if
fiber) or NM-1T3/E3 in a 3800.

~Seth

From sethm at rollernet.us  Wed Apr  8 13:54:29 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:54:29 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 series for 100M
In-Reply-To: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49DCE4D5.6030708@rollernet.us>

Deric Kwok wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Do you know Cisco 2651XM is fine for 100M network?

You aren't likely to get line rate 100 meg out of it.


> If the memory is 256M, it is ok?
> 
> Can it support Virtual private network, VLAN and new tcsh command?

It'll do crypto (slowly). You'll need a crypto AIM if you're going to do
anything serious with it.


> i check the ios is "C2600 Software (C2600-ENTSERVICESK9-M), Version
> 12.3(23)"
> 
> Do I need to buy any extra memory?
> 

256MB is the maximum for that platform. You'll only have access to the
lower 128 since the other half is used to hold the decompressed IOS
image. Sounds weird, but it gives you more free memory, although not
like one would expect if you've never used a 2600XM before.

~Seth

From raa at opusnet.com  Wed Apr  8 14:03:40 2009
From: raa at opusnet.com (Ruben Alvarez)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:03:40 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
Message-ID: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>

All,

I've heard that Cisco devices handle ICMP at a low priority.  I found one
post describing it handled in process-switching and not fast-switching.
Does anyone have an article that explains that process and is it
configurable?

The reason I ask is I see about 4% packet loss when I ping devices in our
broadband aggregation network.  From the CPE to the router there is none,
from my workstation to the router there is none, but if I ping the whole
path I get a fairly consistent 4% loss.  I can't find any congestion or
errors.  Ping from my workstation to the CPE are a consistent 60ms, aside
from the 4% loss.

Thanks.



From peter at rathlev.dk  Wed Apr  8 14:48:57 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:48:57 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 series for 100M
In-Reply-To: <49DCE4D5.6030708@rollernet.us>
References: <40d8a95a0904080509t3955662bod20a1fc36b8353c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DCE4D5.6030708@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <1239216537.3496.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 10:54 -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> > Can it support Virtual private network, VLAN and new tcsh command?
> 
> It'll do crypto (slowly). You'll need a crypto AIM if you're going to do
> anything serious with it.

Agreed. We had a 2651XM with a single GRE+IPSec tunnel once and it was
able to forward no more than around 10-15 mbps with 3DES and no AIM.

Regards,
Peter



From oboehmer at cisco.com  Wed Apr  8 15:06:02 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:06:02 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
In-Reply-To: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
References: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED784072CC389@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

Ruben Alvarez <> wrote on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 20:04:

> All,
> 
> I've heard that Cisco devices handle ICMP at a low priority.  I found
> one post describing it handled in process-switching and not
> fast-switching. Does anyone have an article that explains that
> process and is it configurable?

Pings *to* the router are processed in process switching (as all/most
other packets destined to the router itself). Pings *through* the router
are switched like all others.

> The reason I ask is I see about 4% packet loss when I ping devices in
> our broadband aggregation network.  From the CPE to the router there
> is none, from my workstation to the router there is none, but if I
> ping the whole path I get a fairly consistent 4% loss.  I can't find
> any congestion or errors.  Ping from my workstation to the CPE are a
> consistent 60ms, aside from the 4% loss.

don't know what could be causing this. I would try to troubleshoot in
which direction the packets are lost, and troubleshoot further.. but
sounds strange..

	oli

From sf at lists.esoteric.ca  Wed Apr  8 15:43:57 2009
From: sf at lists.esoteric.ca (Stephen Fulton)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:43:57 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and EoMPLS, VPLS and H-VPLS
Message-ID: <49DCFE7D.9090205@lists.esoteric.ca>

According to the SIP/SPA configuration guide for the 7600, the SIP-400 with a 
SPA-2X1GE-V2 or a SPA-5X1GE-V2, can use individual ports in either a core-facing 
or edge facing role in MPLS.  Can someone please confirm this?

Thanks,

-- Stephen

From sethm at rollernet.us  Wed Apr  8 15:54:22 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:54:22 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <49DD00EE.9030806@rollernet.us>

A big thank you to everyone who shared their wisdom. I'm going to go
back and ask them how they plan on delivering the circuit. If it is TDM
all the way up to the building and the difference is purely which card
they put in their shelf to hand it off to me, then there's not much
point in paying extra for the T3.

~Seth

From eng_mssk at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  8 17:39:47 2009
From: eng_mssk at hotmail.com (Mohammad Khalil)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:39:47 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
Message-ID: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>


Hey all
is there any tool that can monitor the DNS behavior ??
for example , the resolving process and if there are any errors ??

Thanks

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From walter.keen at RainierConnect.net  Wed Apr  8 17:42:50 2009
From: walter.keen at RainierConnect.net (Walter Keen)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:42:50 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
In-Reply-To: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49DD1A5A.2020001@rainierconnect.net>

Could you elaborate a little?

We use Nagios to monitor other things, and use a DNS check plugin that
simply does a dns query and reports if it successfully got an answer.  I
think there are other ones that will compare the answer to a known good
answer you supply (wouldn't work well with something like Google.com or
yahoo.com that does a lot of round robin entries)

Mohammad Khalil wrote:
> Hey all
> is there any tool that can monitor the DNS behavior ??
> for example , the resolving process and if there are any errors ??
>
> Thanks
>
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From stevend at uidaho.edu  Wed Apr  8 17:45:05 2009
From: stevend at uidaho.edu (Dodd, Steven)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:45:05 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
In-Reply-To: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C0A1E4AB1B97642AFB097A8CDA0B223DCD3C9@EXVS1.its.uidaho.edu>

Without knowing more about what you are specifically trying to
accomplish, dig is the tool you are looking for.

-Steve

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Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool


Hey all
is there any tool that can monitor the DNS behavior ??
for example , the resolving process and if there are any errors ??

Thanks

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From tedm at toybox.placo.com  Wed Apr  8 17:48:29 2009
From: tedm at toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:48:29 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
In-Reply-To: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
References: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
Message-ID: <49DD1BAD.6020604@toybox.placo.com>

Ruben Alvarez wrote:
> All,
>
> I've heard that Cisco devices handle ICMP at a low priority.  I found one
> post describing it handled in process-switching and not fast-switching.
> Does anyone have an article that explains that process and is it
> configurable?
>
> The reason I ask is I see about 4% packet loss when I ping devices in our
> broadband aggregation network.  From the CPE to the router there is none,
> from my workstation to the router there is none, but if I ping the whole
> path I get a fairly consistent 4% loss.  I can't find any congestion or
> errors.  Ping from my workstation to the CPE are a consistent 60ms, aside
> from the 4% loss.
>
> Thanks.
>
>   
What model is your router and can you post a config?

What is CPU utilization on the router?  What is memory utilization on 
the router?

Ted

From eng_mssk at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  8 17:49:34 2009
From: eng_mssk at hotmail.com (Mohammad Khalil)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 00:49:34 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
In-Reply-To: <49DD1A5A.2020001@rainierconnect.net>
References: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
	<49DD1A5A.2020001@rainierconnect.net>
Message-ID: <BLU102-W5986C71CD12D66289DC4B0FA820@phx.gbl>


We are facing some browsing problems , so we want to make sure that our DNS servers are resolving well using tools other than nslookup

> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:42:50 -0700
> From: walter.keen at rainierconnect.net
> To: eng_mssk at hotmail.com
> CC: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
> 
> Could you elaborate a little?
> 
> We use Nagios to monitor other things, and use a DNS check plugin that
> simply does a dns query and reports if it successfully got an answer.  I
> think there are other ones that will compare the answer to a known good
> answer you supply (wouldn't work well with something like Google.com or
> yahoo.com that does a lot of round robin entries)
> 
> Mohammad Khalil wrote:
> > Hey all
> > is there any tool that can monitor the DNS behavior ??
> > for example , the resolving process and if there are any errors ??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> 
> 

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From malitsky at netabn.com  Wed Apr  8 17:59:20 2009
From: malitsky at netabn.com (Michael Malitsky)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:59:20 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] rate limiting pointers?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1927.1239178848.2460.cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
References: <mailman.1927.1239178848.2460.cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Message-ID: <79AF0C3901752A49881FE4CB31F7AA4001450AFE@abn-borg2.NETABN.LOCAL>

Generally speaking, Muhammad is correct.  From personal experience, you
are going to find a lot of limitations on the switching platform when
you try to implement this, though.  The switching platforms vary
significantly in their abilities to classify traffic and police in
different directions.  Off the top of my head, I am not sure whether the
2960 supports policing at all.  3550 does, with significant limitations.
I can share more specific experiences offline.

As an alternative, consider doing the straightforward "rate-limit input
| output ..." on the subinterfaces on the 7200.  Works like a champ
(assuming the CPU can keep up of course) and is just 2 lines to set up
vs the MQC on the switch.

Sincerely,
Michael Malitsky

> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:36:07 +0500
> From: Muhammad Salman Zahid <gregariouspearl at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] rate limiting pointers?
> To: Scott Granados <gsgranados at comcast.net>
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID:
> 	<44c523750904072136u5c3c82c0scf20d47d5c2e3241 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Dear Scott,
> 
> Read & try the following:
> 
> 
> Step 1: Define ACL for desired IP Pools
> Step 2: Define a Packet classification criteria
>  Class-map match-all <traffic_class_name>
>         description Control plane normal traffic
>         match access-group name <Access_list_name>
> 
> Step 3: Define a Service Policy
>         policy-map <service_policy_name>
>         class <traffic_class_name>
>         police cir <rate, bc(confirm burst) , be (excess burst)>
> conform-action set-dscp-transmit default exceed-action drop violate-
> action
> drop
> 
> Step 4: Enter service policy on control plane interface
>         service-policy input <service_policy_name>
>         service-policy output <service_policy_name>
> 
> ip access-list extended [ABC]
> ip access-list extended [XYZ]
> class-map match-all [NAME1]=== NAME1=ABC (so easily remember)
>  match access-group name [ABC]
> class-map match-all [NAME2]=== NAME2=XYZ (so easily remember)
>  match access-group name [XYZ]
> policy-map [POLICY NAME]
>  class [ABC]
>  put rate limit
>  class [XYZ]
>  put rate limit
> Regards,
> MSZ
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Scott Granados
> <gsgranados at comcast.net>wrote:
> 
> > Since the topic of rate limiting came up...
> >
> > I have a 7206VXR NPE-300 and 2 switches (2960 and 3550).
> >
> > I plan on setting up  a trunk from the 7206 to the 3500 and break
out
> via
> > vlans as you'd expect.  What are some good methods for rate limiting
> the
> > individual ports on the access switches?
> >
> > I'm open to other hardware but this is more of a lab / personal
> environment
> > so solutions for the listed hardware would be appreciated.  Could
> someone
> > also suggest some good foundation type reading for rate limiting and
> > practices?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Scott
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> 
> 
> 
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> The greatest loss is what dies inside
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Wed Apr  8 19:09:53 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:09:53 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
In-Reply-To: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1239232193.6594.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 00:39 +0300, Mohammad Khalil wrote:
> is there any tool that can monitor the DNS behavior ??
> for example , the resolving process and if there are any errors ??

If you want to monitor this from a Cisco device, IP SLA Monitor "type
dns" is the thing to search for. It can do DNS lookups and tell you how
long it took.

Regards,
Peter



From billw at waveform.net  Wed Apr  8 19:59:09 2009
From: billw at waveform.net (Bill Wichers)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:59:09 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd Etherchannel behavior between 7507 and cat 4006
In-Reply-To: <dd5f2deb0904080638o5fa5d25apf1aec9525050ade3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067AF2@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904061647u6b77c130v3f75bcd63ac00ac0@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DB1C06.60506@memetic.org> <20090407094208.GZ290@greenie.muc.de>
	<49DB2315.5010806@memetic.org>
	<EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B0B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904080638o5fa5d25apf1aec9525050ade3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B2C@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>

[snip]
> > I typically set both ends (router and switch) of these links to
100/full
> > since I've seen weird autonegotiation problems before. This works
just
> > fine for individual FE links, but as soon as I bring up the
Etherchannel
> > group both member links on the router end drop back to "unknown
duplex"
> 
> Can you configure the etherchannel group interface as 100/full?

*That* did it! Thanks! I had not thought of trying it on the
etherchannel group since I'd already set it on the underlying member
links. 

Now all I have to do is figure out why traffic balance is something like
5%/95% between the two member links. I think there are some legacy
config entries in the switch regarding static MACs that might be causing
this though.

  -Bill


From paul at paulstewart.org  Wed Apr  8 19:44:57 2009
From: paul at paulstewart.org (Paul Stewart)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 19:44:57 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Supervisor Failover - Speed question
Message-ID: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>

Hi there.

 

We have 7606's with dual Sup720-3BXL.  I'm investigating how to get the
fastest possible failover if/when a supervisor fails.

 

Current config looks like this:

 

       my state = 13 -ACTIVE

     peer state = 8  -STANDBY HOT

           Mode = Duplex

           Unit = Primary

        Unit ID = 5

 

Redundancy Mode (Operational) = sso

Redundancy Mode (Configured)  = sso

Redundancy State              = sso

     Maintenance Mode = Disabled

 Communications = Up

 

   client count = 78

 client_notification_TMR = 30000 milliseconds

          keep_alive TMR = 9000 milliseconds

        keep_alive count = 0

    keep_alive threshold = 18

           RF debug mask = 0x0

 

--

 

redundancy

 keepalive-enable

 mode sso

 main-cpu

  auto-sync running-config

 

 

 

Is there any way to get a failover to less than 30 seconds an example?  We
find currently it's 2-3 minutes for failover it seems..

 

Thanks,

 

Paul

 


From david at hughes.com.au  Wed Apr  8 21:15:09 2009
From: david at hughes.com.au (David Hughes)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:15:09 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] T3 or Ethernet delivery?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0904081001050.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
References: <49DC4EEC.3070001@rollernet.us>
	<935ead450904080618k15aa5c2bo23acf3dac7005e9c@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0904081001050.6312@soloth.lewis.org>
Message-ID: <3E4FE00F-97AE-47DE-9F2F-4B0EA453E005@hughes.com.au>



On 09/04/2009, at 12:08 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
> With BGP, you might tune the timers shorter than default so that  
> such a break gets noticed sooner.  With a T3, BGP would find out  
> about the break as soon as the interface went down.


BGP with BFD would work well for this.  It's not as clean as losing  
link, but it'll pick up the fault reasonably quickly.


David
...

From fwissue at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 21:53:52 2009
From: fwissue at gmail.com (Michael Lee)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:53:52 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Supervisor Failover - Speed question
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>
References: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>
Message-ID: <709a72990904081853x5d3ead97la962d3e86213b1ca@mail.gmail.com>

did you try enable nsf if it is possible? there are some limitation on
mpls-te

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Paul Stewart <paul at paulstewart.org> wrote:

> Hi there.
>
>
>
> We have 7606's with dual Sup720-3BXL.  I'm investigating how to get the
> fastest possible failover if/when a supervisor fails.
>
>
>
> Current config looks like this:
>
>
>
>       my state = 13 -ACTIVE
>
>     peer state = 8  -STANDBY HOT
>
>           Mode = Duplex
>
>           Unit = Primary
>
>        Unit ID = 5
>
>
>
> Redundancy Mode (Operational) = sso
>
> Redundancy Mode (Configured)  = sso
>
> Redundancy State              = sso
>
>     Maintenance Mode = Disabled
>
>  Communications = Up
>
>
>
>   client count = 78
>
>  client_notification_TMR = 30000 milliseconds
>
>          keep_alive TMR = 9000 milliseconds
>
>        keep_alive count = 0
>
>    keep_alive threshold = 18
>
>           RF debug mask = 0x0
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> redundancy
>
>  keepalive-enable
>
>  mode sso
>
>  main-cpu
>
>  auto-sync running-config
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there any way to get a failover to less than 30 seconds an example?  We
> find currently it's 2-3 minutes for failover it seems..
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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From dcp at dcptech.com  Wed Apr  8 21:16:26 2009
From: dcp at dcptech.com (David Prall)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:16:26 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Supervisor Failover - Speed question
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>
References: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>
Message-ID: <008d01c9b8b0$d0aaa910$71fffb30$@com>

Do all linecards also have DFC's? Do you have nsf/graceful-restart
configured for all routing protocols? What linecards are you using?

David

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:45 PM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [c-nsp] Supervisor Failover - Speed question
> 
> Hi there.
> 
> 
> 
> We have 7606's with dual Sup720-3BXL.  I'm investigating how to get the
> fastest possible failover if/when a supervisor fails.
> 
> 
> 
> Current config looks like this:
> 
> 
> 
>        my state = 13 -ACTIVE
> 
>      peer state = 8  -STANDBY HOT
> 
>            Mode = Duplex
> 
>            Unit = Primary
> 
>         Unit ID = 5
> 
> 
> 
> Redundancy Mode (Operational) = sso
> 
> Redundancy Mode (Configured)  = sso
> 
> Redundancy State              = sso
> 
>      Maintenance Mode = Disabled
> 
>  Communications = Up
> 
> 
> 
>    client count = 78
> 
>  client_notification_TMR = 30000 milliseconds
> 
>           keep_alive TMR = 9000 milliseconds
> 
>         keep_alive count = 0
> 
>     keep_alive threshold = 18
> 
>            RF debug mask = 0x0
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> redundancy
> 
>  keepalive-enable
> 
>  mode sso
> 
>  main-cpu
> 
>   auto-sync running-config
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there any way to get a failover to less than 30 seconds an example?
> We
> find currently it's 2-3 minutes for failover it seems..
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
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From chris.garzon at gmail.com  Wed Apr  8 22:22:05 2009
From: chris.garzon at gmail.com (Dracul)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:22:05 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] video,voip and internet over DSL (converged)
Message-ID: <876789290904081922te84a61ev1da8dff3f198b322@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list,

is it feasible to broadcast video/voip + internet  over DSL like lets say I
deploy a cisco DSLAM infra in a 20 storey building. It would run over a
media server solution and a VOIP network. I am not sure if this would be a
stable solution considering I want to broadcast HD and SD alike plus VOIP
and internet to boot.

Any cons? like noise level or quality of the video or quality of bandwidth
etc. because DSL transport is just running over copper right? Or would I be
better off running fibre? But of course cost will then quantify the use of
DSL.

regards,
Chris

From sf at lists.esoteric.ca  Wed Apr  8 22:27:11 2009
From: sf at lists.esoteric.ca (Stephen Fulton)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:27:11 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SIP-400 and EoMPLS, VPLS and H-VPLS
In-Reply-To: <49DCFE7D.9090205@lists.esoteric.ca>
References: <49DCFE7D.9090205@lists.esoteric.ca>
Message-ID: <49DD5CFF.7090403@lists.esoteric.ca>

For the archives, the answer from my SE is yes, the SIP-400/SPA-(2|5)X1GE-V2 can 
appropriate in a core and edge facing role, on a per-port basis.

-- Stephen

Stephen Fulton wrote:
> According to the SIP/SPA configuration guide for the 7600, the SIP-400 
> with a SPA-2X1GE-V2 or a SPA-5X1GE-V2, can use individual ports in 
> either a core-facing or edge facing role in MPLS.  Can someone please 
> confirm this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- Stephen
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From ml at kenweb.org  Wed Apr  8 23:15:34 2009
From: ml at kenweb.org (ML)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 23:15:34 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd multicast behavior from an ME3400
Message-ID: <49DD6856.6020402@kenweb.org>

Using an IneoQuest cricket we've been trying to find out why multicast 
video streams are breaking up.

Using an ME3400 as an access device these are our symptoms:

3 x MPEG4 HD streams (8-10MBps each) come through fine.
Add one more stream and the Cricket says we've got problems.
On aggregate this about 40Mbps/3500pps with four streams.

However with *10* standard def MPEG2 streams (~84Mbps/7500pps).
Everything looks good according to the Cricket.

If the access device is a 3560 we can pull twice as many MPEG4-HD 
streams without issue.


We've already verified the content is good from the source (pulling 
twice as many stream as a customer would ever pull)
now it's down to the ME3400s in the access layer.

When looking at the interface counters there is not a single error of 
any kind. "show buffers" shows no changes in buffer misses
during and after the point where video breaks down on the MPEG4-HD streams.

When the Cricket's video monitor point is a gigabit port (via a GLC-T, 
albeit the Cricket monitor port is 100Mb) we can pull four streams with 
problems but the error rate is reduced.

We are using the IPBASE image. Tried several versions 12.2(25)SEG1, 
12.2(44)SE no difference.

The multicast config is basic at the access layer.  Just default config 
for IGMP snooping on the multicast VLAN with immediate-leave.

I used the Bug Toolkit but nothing stood out to me as an open/fixed bug 
with our symptoms.

Is there a troubleshooting step I'm missing here?

Thanks


From ATolstykh at integrysgroup.com  Wed Apr  8 23:19:08 2009
From: ATolstykh at integrysgroup.com (Tolstykh, Andrew)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 22:19:08 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Packet Loss on 6513
In-Reply-To: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE9@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>
References: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18B1D0DBE9@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>
Message-ID: <ADFA18A30DF9B14B884FFE341DAC20F122252F@DOB-BXVS1.integrysgroup.net>

What is connected to your SUP-720 Gi7/1 interface? Can you post the
output of 'show int gi7/1'?

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mesiatowsky,
Shawn
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:11 AM
To: 'cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net'
Subject: [c-nsp] Packet Loss on 6513

We currently have 2 6513's in our core, and we have seen packet loss on
our network. I was trying to locate the source of the packet loss. We
did see some input queue drops on the SVI's and physical interfaces. I
had increased our queue size on the vlan interfaces to 500, and our
packet drops on the svi's decreased signifigantly. Now I am trying to
figure out why there is packet loss on the physical interfaces. We have
a sup 720, and our line cards are WS-X6724-SFP and WS-X6748-SFP.

Here is a sample of an interface with high drops
GigabitEthernet2/23 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
  Hardware is C6k 1000Mb 802.3, address is 001a.2f68.7bc2 (bia
001a.2f68.7bc2)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec,
     reliability 255/255, txload 38/255, rxload 32/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, media type is SX
  input flow-control is off, output flow-control is off
  Clock mode is auto
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:31, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1d00h
  Input queue: 0/2000/91560/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output
drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 126671000 bits/sec, 28888 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 151605000 bits/sec, 26499 packets/sec
     942611654 packets input, 633784740348 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 7319979 broadcasts (6903850 multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 91560 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     891230426 packets output, 579042873963 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out

I also looked at the utilization of this interface with our snmp tool,
and utilixzation of this interface never went over %40

I also noticed the following, and was not sure if this was completely
accurate:

show platform hardware capacity interface
Interface Resources
  Interface drops:
    Module    Total drops:    Tx            Rx      Highest drop port:
Tx  Rx
    1                          0           466
0   1
    2                          0        154228
0  23
    3                          0           123
0   1
    4                          0        190102
0  21
    5                          0        446318
0  21
    7                 3940684041             0
1   0
    9                          0         34280
0   7
    10                         0             5
0  42
    11                         0           433
0  46
    12                         0          1686
0  44
    13                     66042        119859
1   1

  Interface buffer sizes:
    Module                            Bytes:     Tx buffer           Rx
buffer
    1                                              1221120
152000
    2                                              1221120
152000
    3                                              1221120
152000
    4                                              1221120
152000
    5                                              1221120
152000
    6                                              1221120
152000
    9                                              1221120
152000
    10                                             1221120
152000
    11                                             1221120
152000
    12                                             1221120
152000
    13                                             1221120
152000

Does this mean that 3940684041 packets were dropped on the egress queue
on the sup? Does this seem extremly high, and shat can cause this?
Thanks for your help



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From aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 00:37:26 2009
From: aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com (Aftab Siddiqui)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:37:26 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] video,voip and internet over DSL (converged)
In-Reply-To: <876789290904081922te84a61ev1da8dff3f198b322@mail.gmail.com>
References: <876789290904081922te84a61ev1da8dff3f198b322@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c605ce10904082137j31fb89c7j1cc3239642ffc00c@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Chris,

Before deployment you have to consider certain point:


   - What flavour of DSL you will be using either ADSL2, ADSL2+ or VDSL.
   They have different reach and different bandwidth capacity.
   - What will be used for backhauling the DSLAM to CO.
   - Will it be internet-TV or IPTV? if IPTV than it will be multicast over
   the network. (I persume it is IPTV)
   - How many HD and SD channel you are planning to put on the network? HD
   takes approx 8mbps and SD approx 2mbps.

DSL can be used for such type of services and in normal copper condition
(but you have to test) it will provide the desired services.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Dracul <chris.garzon at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> is it feasible to broadcast video/voip + internet  over DSL like lets say I
> deploy a cisco DSLAM infra in a 20 storey building. It would run over a
> media server solution and a VOIP network. I am not sure if this would be a
> stable solution considering I want to broadcast HD and SD alike plus VOIP
> and internet to boot.
>
> Any cons? like noise level or quality of the video or quality of bandwidth
> etc. because DSL transport is just running over copper right? Or would I be
> better off running fibre? But of course cost will then quantify the use of
> DSL.
>
> regards,
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

From pigsign.pykota at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 01:11:30 2009
From: pigsign.pykota at gmail.com (Darren Yang)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:11:30 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] How can enable PfR PIRO function on IOS 12.4(24)T
Message-ID: <c914c50e0904082211i270bfc22o9ed39927f2ec201f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The Cisco introduced PfR can support OSPF as parent route on IOS
12.4(24)T and this term is PIRO(Protocol Independent Route
Optimization).
Detail link this:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/oer/configuration/guide/oer-trf_rte_ctl.html#wp1060987

But when I use 12.4(24)T in Cisco 1812 module, I didn't see any PIRO
information can support OSPF when I type 'sh oer master prefix', like
below...

#sh oer master prefix
192.168.1.2/32            DEFAULT*       92 172.17.11.254   Tu11   U
                              U        U        0        0        0        0
                              N        N        N        N        1        1

#sh ip route ospf
O       192.168.1.0/24 [110/11] via 10.0.0.1, 02:46:06, Tunnel11
                      [110/11] via 10.1.1.1, 02:46:06, Tunnel12

Before 12.4(24)T, I use static route as parent route and it works
well. But I really want to use OSPF as PfR parent route because static
route would make route fail when gateway couldn't arrive.

Anyone have idea about this ?

Thanks and Regards,

Pigsign

From ecralar at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  9 03:26:03 2009
From: ecralar at hotmail.com (Alex)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 08:26:03 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd multicast behavior from an ME3400
References: <49DD6856.6020402@kenweb.org>
Message-ID: <BLU138-DAV10AA7613474EBCA3CD67C3A5830@phx.gbl>

I think you are missing a couple of steps. Packet count and capture.
 The multicast streams are UDP, are they? If so then:
1/ count packets sent on source and and packets received on independent 
receiver (not on switch)
2/ capture stream and verify UDP checksum (udp.checksum_bad == 1 in 
Wireshark display filter). You will need a powerful PC with lots of RAM and 
fast disk.
HTH
Rgds
Alex

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ML" <ml at kenweb.org>
To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:15 AM
Subject: [c-nsp] Odd multicast behavior from an ME3400


> Using an IneoQuest cricket we've been trying to find out why multicast 
> video streams are breaking up.
>
> Using an ME3400 as an access device these are our symptoms:
>
> 3 x MPEG4 HD streams (8-10MBps each) come through fine.
> Add one more stream and the Cricket says we've got problems.
> On aggregate this about 40Mbps/3500pps with four streams.
>
> However with *10* standard def MPEG2 streams (~84Mbps/7500pps).
> Everything looks good according to the Cricket.
>
> If the access device is a 3560 we can pull twice as many MPEG4-HD streams 
> without issue.
>
>
> We've already verified the content is good from the source (pulling twice 
> as many stream as a customer would ever pull)
> now it's down to the ME3400s in the access layer.
>
> When looking at the interface counters there is not a single error of any 
> kind. "show buffers" shows no changes in buffer misses
> during and after the point where video breaks down on the MPEG4-HD 
> streams.
>
> When the Cricket's video monitor point is a gigabit port (via a GLC-T, 
> albeit the Cricket monitor port is 100Mb) we can pull four streams with 
> problems but the error rate is reduced.
>
> We are using the IPBASE image. Tried several versions 12.2(25)SEG1, 
> 12.2(44)SE no difference.
>
> The multicast config is basic at the access layer.  Just default config 
> for IGMP snooping on the multicast VLAN with immediate-leave.
>
> I used the Bug Toolkit but nothing stood out to me as an open/fixed bug 
> with our symptoms.
>
> Is there a troubleshooting step I'm missing here?
>
> Thanks
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From wllmjbs at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 03:36:08 2009
From: wllmjbs at gmail.com (William Jobs)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:36:08 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Service Deployment
Message-ID: <cb473160904090036p2b059ef6l4ad03d5f0c86a76a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm looking for GUI tool that can be used to easily deploy the following
services on
a large scale, over Cisco hardware:

- Layer 3 MPLS VPNs
- Layer 2 MPLS VPNs
- Any Transport over MPLS
- VPLS

One option I had come across was Cisco's IP Solutions Centre. Has anyone had
any experience using this product and can it handle our requirements? I'd
also
be open to other solutions/products. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

From blahu77 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 04:25:42 2009
From: blahu77 at gmail.com (Mateusz Blaszczyk)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:25:42 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <74206b240904080701t75420f7dqd1298597e246008c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com> 
	<74206b240904080701t75420f7dqd1298597e246008c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <383357750904090125t302139f8o1d836243dc484010@mail.gmail.com>

What's the difference between 40g/slot and 100g/slot ready ?
Is it like "vista ready"?

I would assume (wrongly?) that this is a hw limit?

Best Regards,

-mat

-- 
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From techconfig at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  9 07:15:29 2009
From: techconfig at yahoo.com (Mark Tech)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 04:15:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
Message-ID: <69329.43725.qm@web44814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Hi
I would like to cap a physical GE interface to 100mbps whist running vlans through it on a GSR i.e. 


interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6
?no ip address
?no ip directed-broadcast
?rate-limit input 100032000 12504000 12504000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
?rate-limit output 100032000 12504000 12504000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
?no negotiation auto
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2
?encapsulation dot1Q 2
?ip vrf forwarding test
?ip address 10.1.1.5 255.255.255.252
?no ip directed-broadcast
?no cdp enable
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6.3
?encapsulation dot1Q 3
?ip vrf forwarding test2
?ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
?no ip directed-broadcast
?no cdp enable
!

.................etc


However when I apply? the rate-limit command on GE0/0/6, I don't see any drop in traffic. Actually I have set up a throughput test through GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2 running at 1Gbps which I can see through sh int GigabitEthernet0/0/6 which does not drop to 100Mbps once the rate-limit is added

Is there a way to cap this aggregate interface?

Regards

Mark


      


From sandmaier at schlund.net  Thu Apr  9 07:31:45 2009
From: sandmaier at schlund.net (Jan Sandmaier)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:31:45 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] etherchannel load-balancing on "4 Port ISE Gigabit
	Ethernet"?
Message-ID: <49DDDCA1.4060506@schlund.net>

Hi,

does anybody know how load-balancing in an etherchannel works on a "4 
Port ISE Gigabit Ethernet" for Cisco 12000 in detail?

I have the following problem: I configured an etherchannel consisting of 
two GigabitEthernet ports on the same linecard. Only one port is 
utilized (see show command below). There is no inbound traffic and the 
outbound traffic originates from various prefixes to basically 3 prefixes.

I have a cisco 12010/PRP with IOS 12.0(31)S6.

sh interfaces port-channel 1 load

     ID                 bits/sec     pack/sec
 ----------           ------------  ----------
    PortCh1  Tx          149655000      24926
             Rx                  0          0

   Members       (%)    bits/sec     pack/sec
 ----------      ---  ------------  ----------
      Gi1/0  Tx   99     149643000      24919
             Rx   54             0          0
      Gi1/1  Tx    1         11000          8
             Rx   46             0          0

The configuration is:

interface Port-channel1
 bandwidth 2000000
 ip address x.x.x.x 255.255.255.252
 ip access-group 188 in
 ip access-group 189 out
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip route-cache flow sampled
 load-interval 30
 channel-group minimum active 1
 no channel-group bandwidth control-propagation

interface GigabitEthernet1/0
 no negotiation auto
 channel-group 1
 no cdp enable
!
interface GigabitEthernet1/1
 negotiation auto
 channel-group 1
 no cdp enable

Is there a fundamental problem with this scenario?

Thanks,
Jan


From geoff at pendery.net  Thu Apr  9 08:29:03 2009
From: geoff at pendery.net (Geoffrey Pendery)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:29:03 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Supervisor Failover - Speed question
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>
References: <000001c9b8a4$0689eee0$139dcca0$@org>
Message-ID: <d6966e4b0904090529t25d5dfd9o4c1c4f48ef6ab5c5@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, failover shouldn't take 2-3 minutes.  I've personally observed it
as less than one second in several test environments.  But I imagine
it's highly dependent on the details.

What it your criteria for measuring it as done?  Are you pinging from
a host on one port of the chassis to another?  One network to another,
routed across the 7600?  Pinging the supervisor's loopback address?
Looking at routing protocol adjacencies in neighbored routers?

As others have mentioned, if you're running a routing protocol like
EIGRP or OSPF, adding "nsf" in the config for that protocol will
likely help to maintain forwarding during the failover, though not
technically speeding up the failover itself.

Could you elaborate a bit on what traffic you're seeing down for a few minutes?


-Geoff


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Paul Stewart <paul at paulstewart.org> wrote:
> Hi there.
>
>
>
> We have 7606's with dual Sup720-3BXL. ?I'm investigating how to get the
> fastest possible failover if/when a supervisor fails.
>
>
>
> Current config looks like this:
>
>
>
> ? ? ? my state = 13 -ACTIVE
>
> ? ? peer state = 8 ?-STANDBY HOT
>
> ? ? ? ? ? Mode = Duplex
>
> ? ? ? ? ? Unit = Primary
>
> ? ? ? ?Unit ID = 5
>
>
>
> Redundancy Mode (Operational) = sso
>
> Redundancy Mode (Configured) ?= sso
>
> Redundancy State ? ? ? ? ? ? ?= sso
>
> ? ? Maintenance Mode = Disabled
>
> ?Communications = Up
>
>
>
> ? client count = 78
>
> ?client_notification_TMR = 30000 milliseconds
>
> ? ? ? ? ?keep_alive TMR = 9000 milliseconds
>
> ? ? ? ?keep_alive count = 0
>
> ? ?keep_alive threshold = 18
>
> ? ? ? ? ? RF debug mask = 0x0
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> redundancy
>
> ?keepalive-enable
>
> ?mode sso
>
> ?main-cpu
>
> ?auto-sync running-config
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there any way to get a failover to less than 30 seconds an example? ?We
> find currently it's 2-3 minutes for failover it seems..
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From drew.weaver at thenap.com  Thu Apr  9 08:42:01 2009
From: drew.weaver at thenap.com (Drew Weaver)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:42:01 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
Message-ID: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>

Hi there,

I am trying to come up with the best way to network servers that have out-of-band management such as the baseboard management controllers in many enterprise servers.

Ideally, I would like to be able to assign the management device a RFC 1918 IP, have the actual server be on a different subnet altogether but use a shared port. I know that BMCs generally can use VLAN tagging, but I'm really not sure how I can do all of this with just one port.

The 'easy' way is to simply assign a dedicated NIC to the management device and run another cable, but I'm not sure that is the best way to do it.

Does anyone have any experience handling the networking side of large server deployments of servers with management capabilities?

thanks,
-Drew


From networkstuff.training at gmail.com  Thu Apr  9 08:49:36 2009
From: networkstuff.training at gmail.com (Swati Sharma)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:19:36 +0530
Subject: [c-nsp] No route drops packets : 117964064
Message-ID: <8a93d4b30904090549w6367541di30ac41e2744c6c0@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I can see many drops bcos of no route available....it looks strange as this
is mpls vpn network (knows abt loopback) and yes Internet routing table is
available here. But if some issue on Internet drop should be on peering
router... is it a sec. hack efforts!!!

RP/0/RP0/CPU0:crs1#sh cef drops
CEF Drop Statistics
Node: 0/0/CPU0
  Unresolved drops     packets :               0
  Unsupported drops    packets :               0
  Null0 drops          packets :               0
  No route drops       packets :           22372
  No Adjacency drops   packets :               0
  Checksum error drops packets :               0
  RPF drops            packets :               0
  RPF suppressed drops packets :               0
  RP destined drops    packets :               0
Node: 0/2/CPU0
  Unresolved drops     packets :               0
  Unsupported drops    packets :          218221
  Null0 drops          packets :          359357
 * No route drops       packets :       117964064*
  No Adjacency drops   packets :               0
  Checksum error drops packets :               0
  RPF drops            packets :               0
  RPF suppressed drops packets :               0
  RP destined drops    packets :               0
Node: 0/RP0/CPU0
  Unresolved drops     packets :               0
  Unsupported drops    packets :               0
  Null0 drops          packets :               0
  No route drops       packets :            2662
  No Adjacency drops   packets :               0
  Checksum error drops packets :               0
  RPF drops            packets :               0
  RPF suppressed drops packets :               0
  RP destined drops    packets :               0

Regards,

From achatz at forthnet.gr  Thu Apr  9 08:51:38 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:51:38 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000
In-Reply-To: <20090407165647.GA22725@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
References: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
	<49DB792C.6080507@forthnet.gr>
	<20090407165647.GA22725@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <49DDEF5A.5060602@forthnet.gr>

We're also evaluating the ASR platform and besides 4 new bugs and 3 not supported features we have found, 
performance-wise ASR seems like a little monster. RLS5 or RLS6 will probably be our first production release. On the 
other hand, online documentation is missing a lot of stuff :(

While trying to stress the CPU, i was somewhat disappointed by the fact that "sh parser dump exec | i 
something-that-does-not-exist" makes the CPU go nuts for over 1 hour! IOS should include an option in order to produce a 
warning after x minutes of cli-command-given-but-no-output-returned.

--
Tassos

Rodney Dunn wrote on 07/04/2009 19:56:
> sh plat software status control-processor brief 
> Load Average
>  Slot  Status  1-Min  5-Min 15-Min
>   RP0 Healthy   0.00   0.04   0.01
>  ESP0 Healthy   0.00   0.00   0.00
>  SIP0 Healthy   0.02   0.02   0.00
> 
> Memory (kB)
>  Slot  Status    Total     Used (Pct)     Free (Pct) Committed (Pct)
>   RP0 Healthy  3711920  1525468 (36%)  2186452 (52%)   2438180 (59%)
>  ESP0 Healthy  2024492   527680 (25%)  1496812 (71%)   2807552 (133%)
>  SIP0 Healthy   480084   287860 (54%)   192224 (36%)    199468 (38%)
> 
> CPU Utilization
>  Slot  CPU   User System   Nice   Idle    IRQ   SIRQ IOwait
>   RP0    0   2.15   1.54   0.00  96.25   0.01   0.03   0.00
>  ESP0    0   0.57   0.60   0.00  98.80   0.00   0.01   0.00
>  SIP0    0   0.30   0.41   0.00  99.25   0.00   0.01   0.00
> 
> 
> It's a live network I worked on over the weekend. It's a pretty high
> rate short lived session network.
> 
> We set the timeouts down:
> 
> ip nat translation timeout 1800
> ip nat translation tcp-timeout 900
> ip nat translation udp-timeout 150
> ip nat translation dns-timeout 30
> 
> show platform hardware cpp active infrastructure exmem statistics
> 
> and there is a lot of QFP memory left:
> 
> Type: Name: IRAM, CPP: 0
>   Total: 134217728
>   InUse: 4779008
>   Free: 128974848
>   Free protected: 463872
>   Free unprotected: 0
>   Lowest free water mark: 129438720
>   Largest free block: 99537920
> Type: Name: DRAM, CPP: 0
>   Total: 402653184
>   InUse: 190609408
>   Free: 209715200
>   Free protected: 598016
>   Free unprotected: 1730560
>   Lowest free water mark: 212043776
>   Largest free block: 210233344
> 
> On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 07:02:52PM +0300, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
>> Rodney, can you do a "sh plat soft stat contr br"?
>>
>> --
>> Tassos
>>
>> Rodney Dunn wrote on 07/04/2009 18:46:
>>> Few bugs still being worked through but the 72xx and 76xx croaked
>>> under the load:
>>>
>>> ASR1002ESP10#sh proc cpu sort | excl 0.00
>>> CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
>>> PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
>>> ASR1002ESP10#sh ip nat stat
>>> Total active translations: 92367 (80 static, 92287 dynamic; 92287 extended)
>>> Outside interfaces:
>>>  GigabitEthernet0/0/0, Tunnel1
>>> Inside interfaces: 
>>>  GigabitEthernet0/0/1, GigabitEthernet0/0/2
>>> Hits: 0  Misses: 0
>>> CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 0
>>> Expired translations: 87400847
>>>
>>>
>>> that's on 12.2(33)XNC and I just filed one bug.
>>>
>>> CSCsy93931 ASRNAT does not do FIN/RST/SYN timeout when no-payload keyword 
>>> used
>>>
>>>
>>> My first work on the box with NAT but this thing seems pretty impressive.
>>>
>>> Anyone else using it for high scale nat yet?
>>>
>>> Rodney
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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> 


From rdobbins at cisco.com  Thu Apr  9 09:13:08 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 21:13:08 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
Message-ID: <68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>


On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:

> Ideally, I would like to be able to assign the management device a  
> RFC 1918 IP, have the actual server be on a different subnet  
> altogether but use a shared port.

This isn't a good idea because of fate-sharing - you want your OOB  
management network to be isolated and bulletproof, and totally  
unaffected by any problems on the production side.  You should use  
separate NICs, with separate cables, plugged into a separate physical  
network (unless you're using N7K switches with VDCs, in which case you  
can safely run the management  network on a separate VDC on the same  
hardware, given the control- and management-plane isolation).

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at cisco.com> // +852.9133.2844 mobile

   Our dreams are still big; it's just the future that got small.

		   -- Jason Scott


From oboehmer at cisco.com  Thu Apr  9 09:59:05 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:59:05 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
In-Reply-To: <69329.43725.qm@web44814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <69329.43725.qm@web44814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DF99@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

Mark Tech <> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 13:15:

> Hi
> I would like to cap a physical GE interface to 100mbps whist running
> vlans through it on a GSR i.e. 
> 
[...]
> 
> However when I apply? the rate-limit command on GE0/0/6, I don't see
> any drop in traffic. Actually I have set up a throughput test through
> GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2 running at 1Gbps which I can see through sh
> int GigabitEthernet0/0/6 which does not drop to 100Mbps once the
> rate-limit is added    
> 
> Is there a way to cap this aggregate interface?

On Engine3/5 linecards, you can use

policy-map gig-out
 class class-default
  police 1000000000
!
int gig0/0/6
 service-policy output gig-out
!
int gig0/0/6.<vlan>
 ...

You can also use "match vlan" classes to provide differentiated treatment for vlans..

	oli

From oboehmer at cisco.com  Thu Apr  9 10:02:19 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:02:19 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] etherchannel load-balancing on "4 Port ISE
	GigabitEthernet"?
In-Reply-To: <49DDDCA1.4060506@schlund.net>
References: <49DDDCA1.4060506@schlund.net>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DFA1@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

Jan Sandmaier <> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 13:32:

> Hi,
> 
> does anybody know how load-balancing in an etherchannel works on a "4
> Port ISE Gigabit Ethernet" for Cisco 12000 in detail?
> 
> I have the following problem: I configured an etherchannel consisting
> of two GigabitEthernet ports on the same linecard. Only one port is
> utilized (see show command below). There is no inbound traffic and the
> outbound traffic originates from various prefixes to basically 3
> prefixes. 

load-sharing over a link bundle is pretty much identical to "regular"
Layer 3 CEF load-sharing. So you need to use a large enough number of
flows (i.e. <source/dest> pairs).

	oli

From vijay.ramcharan at verizonbusiness.com  Thu Apr  9 10:02:11 2009
From: vijay.ramcharan at verizonbusiness.com (Ramcharan, Vijay A)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 14:02:11 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <8171C8272CE8FE4A8F5BFF8A97CE6AB36CB770@ASHEVS006.mcilink.com>

I second that approach. We use it for our builds whenever possible. You
really do want your oob mgmt solution to be as isolated as possible from
failures on the production side of things. We usually build a mgmt silo
to accommodate out of band connectivity; with one or more
fixed-configuration switches depending on site size and budget, firewall
and ISR router. A separate circuit for remote connectivity as well with
failover to IPSec/DMVPN. It's obviously more expensive but it sure goes
a long way in reducing visits to customer sites. 

ilo ports used to be simpler, 1 ilo port connected to one mgmt switch
port. With blade chassis and the move there to reduce cabling, blades
can now share one physical ilo port on their chassis/enclosure. 

However, that still doesn't change mgmt connectivity as you still would
want to have this single physical connection on a mgmt switch. 
 
Vijay Ramcharan 
  
-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Roland Dobbins
Sent: April 09, 2009 09:13
To: Cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management
(iLO/IPMI)


On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:

> Ideally, I would like to be able to assign the management device a  
> RFC 1918 IP, have the actual server be on a different subnet  
> altogether but use a shared port.

This isn't a good idea because of fate-sharing - you want your OOB  
management network to be isolated and bulletproof, and totally  
unaffected by any problems on the production side.  You should use  
separate NICs, with separate cables, plugged into a separate physical  
network (unless you're using N7K switches with VDCs, in which case you  
can safely run the management  network on a separate VDC on the same  
hardware, given the control- and management-plane isolation).

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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		   -- Jason Scott

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From techconfig at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  9 10:19:38 2009
From: techconfig at yahoo.com (Mark Tech)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
In-Reply-To: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DF99@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
References: <69329.43725.qm@web44814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DF99@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <362613.58951.qm@web44812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Hi Oli

Thanks for that. I have tried that however I still see the interface as unaffected

interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6
?no ip address
?no ip directed-broadcast
?no negotiation auto
?service-policy input gig-in
?service-policy output gig-out

policy-map gig-out
? class class-default
?? police 64000 4470 4470

policy-map gig-in
? class class-default
?? police 64000 4470 4470

GigabitEthernet0/0/6 is up, line protocol is up
?
? 5 minute input rate 915130000 bits/sec, 417475 packets/sec
? 5 minute output rate 915116000 bits/sec, 417467 packets/sec


The sub-interfaces are in vrfs, will that affect this?

Cheers

Mark

?


----- Original Message ----
From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) <oboehmer at cisco.com>
To: Mark Tech <techconfig at yahoo.com>; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 2:59:05 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR

Mark Tech <> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 13:15:

> Hi
> I would like to cap a physical GE interface to 100mbps whist running
> vlans through it on a GSR i.e. 
> 
[...]
> 
> However when I apply? the rate-limit command on GE0/0/6, I don't see
> any drop in traffic. Actually I have set up a throughput test through
> GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2 running at 1Gbps which I can see through sh
> int GigabitEthernet0/0/6 which does not drop to 100Mbps once the
> rate-limit is added? ? 
> 
> Is there a way to cap this aggregate interface?

On Engine3/5 linecards, you can use

policy-map gig-out
class class-default
? police 1000000000
!
int gig0/0/6
service-policy output gig-out
!
int gig0/0/6.<vlan>
...

You can also use "match vlan" classes to provide differentiated treatment for vlans..

??? oli



      


From oboehmer at cisco.com  Thu Apr  9 10:33:43 2009
From: oboehmer at cisco.com (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 16:33:43 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
In-Reply-To: <362613.58951.qm@web44812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <69329.43725.qm@web44814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DF99@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
	<362613.58951.qm@web44812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DFCD@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>

Hmm, can you replace the class-default with something like

class-map all-vlans
 match vlan x y z ...

where x y z match your vlan IDs, and see if this changes things? What does "show policy-map int gig0/0/6" say? What type of linecard engine is this? E5/SIP?

vrf shouldn't make a difference..

	oli

Mark Tech <mailto:techconfig at yahoo.com> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 16:20:

> Hi Oli
> 
> Thanks for that. I have tried that however I still see the interface
> as unaffected 
> 
> interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6
> ?no ip address
> ?no ip directed-broadcast
> ?no negotiation auto
> ?service-policy input gig-in
> ?service-policy output gig-out
> 
> policy-map gig-out
> ? class class-default
> ?? police 64000 4470 4470
> 
> policy-map gig-in
> ? class class-default
> ?? police 64000 4470 4470
> 
> GigabitEthernet0/0/6 is up, line protocol is up
> 
> ? 5 minute input rate 915130000 bits/sec, 417475 packets/sec
> ? 5 minute output rate 915116000 bits/sec, 417467 packets/sec
> 
> 
> The sub-interfaces are in vrfs, will that affect this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) <oboehmer at cisco.com>
> To: Mark Tech <techconfig at yahoo.com>; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 2:59:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
> 
> Mark Tech <> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 13:15:
> 
>> Hi
>> I would like to cap a physical GE interface to 100mbps whist running
>> vlans through it on a GSR i.e.
>> 
> [...]
>> 
>> However when I apply? the rate-limit command on GE0/0/6, I don't see
>> any drop in traffic. Actually I have set up a throughput test through
>> GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2 running at 1Gbps which I can see through sh
>> int GigabitEthernet0/0/6 which does not drop to 100Mbps once the
>> rate-limit is added 
>> 
>> Is there a way to cap this aggregate interface?
> 
> On Engine3/5 linecards, you can use
> 
> policy-map gig-out
> class class-default
> ? police 1000000000
> !
> int gig0/0/6
> service-policy output gig-out
> !
> int gig0/0/6.<vlan>
> ...
> 
> You can also use "match vlan" classes to provide differentiated
> treatment for vlans.. 
> 
> ??? oli

From MatlockK at exempla.org  Thu Apr  9 09:56:09 2009
From: MatlockK at exempla.org (Matlock, Kenneth L)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:09 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
	<68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <4288131ED5E3024C9CD4782CECCAD2C7065D3474@LMC-MAIL2.exempla.org>

I agree. We completely isolate the ILO onto it's own discrete network.
We supply Cisco 2950/2960's at the top of each rack, and it's on it's
own RFC1918 IP block. Each ILO gets it's own /27, not related at all to
the IP blocks the main servers use.

The 2950/2960's then plug into a distribution pair, unrelated to the
distribution layer the real NIC connectivity goes through.

Now, I realize not a lot of companies have that luxury, so compromises
sometimes have to be made.

Ken Matlock
Network Analyst
Exempla Healthcare
(303) 467-4671
matlockk at exempla.org
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Roland Dobbins
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 7:13 AM
To: Cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management
(iLO/IPMI)


On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:

> Ideally, I would like to be able to assign the management device a  
> RFC 1918 IP, have the actual server be on a different subnet  
> altogether but use a shared port.

This isn't a good idea because of fate-sharing - you want your OOB  
management network to be isolated and bulletproof, and totally  
unaffected by any problems on the production side.  You should use  
separate NICs, with separate cables, plugged into a separate physical  
network (unless you're using N7K switches with VDCs, in which case you  
can safely run the management  network on a separate VDC on the same  
hardware, given the control- and management-plane isolation).

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From techconfig at yahoo.com  Thu Apr  9 10:56:19 2009
From: techconfig at yahoo.com (Mark Tech)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 07:56:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
In-Reply-To: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DFCD@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
References: <69329.43725.qm@web44814.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DF99@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
	<362613.58951.qm@web44812.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED7840731DFCD@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <639983.88123.qm@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>


Hi
tried the vlan policy map with standard and hierarchical but get the same issue when applying to an interface

policy-map gig-out
? class all-vlans
?? police 64000 4470 4470
policy-map parent-gig-out
? class class-default
?? service-policy gig-out

class-map match-all all-vlans
? match vlan? 1-4095

(config)#int gigabitEthernet 0/0/6
(config-if)#service-policy output parent-gig-out
% 'match vlan/pseudowire' not supported in gig-out

The GSR cards? are 12000-SIP-601 and?SPA-10X1GE-V2



----- Original Message ----
From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) <oboehmer at cisco.com>
To: Mark Tech <techconfig at yahoo.com>; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 3:33:43 PM
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR

Hmm, can you replace the class-default with something like

class-map all-vlans
match vlan x y z ...

where x y z match your vlan IDs, and see if this changes things? What does "show policy-map int gig0/0/6" say? What type of linecard engine is this? E5/SIP?

vrf shouldn't make a difference..

??? oli

Mark Tech <mailto:techconfig at yahoo.com> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 16:20:

> Hi Oli
> 
> Thanks for that. I have tried that however I still see the interface
> as unaffected 
> 
> interface GigabitEthernet0/0/6
> ?no ip address
> ?no ip directed-broadcast
> ?no negotiation auto
> ?service-policy input gig-in
> ?service-policy output gig-out
> 
> policy-map gig-out
> ? class class-default
> ?? police 64000 4470 4470
> 
> policy-map gig-in
> ? class class-default
> ?? police 64000 4470 4470
> 
> GigabitEthernet0/0/6 is up, line protocol is up
> 
> ? 5 minute input rate 915130000 bits/sec, 417475 packets/sec
> ? 5 minute output rate 915116000 bits/sec, 417467 packets/sec
> 
> 
> The sub-interfaces are in vrfs, will that affect this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) <oboehmer at cisco.com>
> To: Mark Tech <techconfig at yahoo.com>; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 2:59:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] Rate limit Physical interface GSR
> 
> Mark Tech <> wrote on Thursday, April 09, 2009 13:15:
> 
>> Hi
>> I would like to cap a physical GE interface to 100mbps whist running
>> vlans through it on a GSR i.e.
>> 
> [...]
>> 
>> However when I apply? the rate-limit command on GE0/0/6, I don't see
>> any drop in traffic. Actually I have set up a throughput test through
>> GigabitEthernet0/0/6.2 running at 1Gbps which I can see through sh
>> int GigabitEthernet0/0/6 which does not drop to 100Mbps once the
>> rate-limit is added 
>> 
>> Is there a way to cap this aggregate interface?
> 
> On Engine3/5 linecards, you can use
> 
> policy-map gig-out
> class class-default
> ? police 1000000000
> !
> int gig0/0/6
> service-policy output gig-out
> !
> int gig0/0/6.<vlan>
> ...
> 
> You can also use "match vlan" classes to provide differentiated
> treatment for vlans.. 
> 
> ??? oli



      


From frnkblk at iname.com  Thu Apr  9 11:20:55 2009
From: frnkblk at iname.com (Frank Bulk)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:20:55 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] video,voip and internet over DSL (converged)
In-Reply-To: <876789290904081922te84a61ev1da8dff3f198b322@mail.gmail.com>
References: <876789290904081922te84a61ev1da8dff3f198b322@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAAKTyXRN5/+lGvU59a+P7CFMBAN6gY+ZG84BMpVQcAbDh1IQAAAATbSgAABAAAADobNch4GpcSq+Fig28u1WRAQAAAAA=@iname.com>

The hardest part to IPTV is not the technical aspect, but establishing
contracts with the content providers, and additionally, encryption.

If you can address those issues (first), then the next steps will be clear.
There's a lot of middleware vendors out there, but I'm not sure any of them
are interested in a single MDU, even though it's large.  You may want to
talk to VideoFurnace, which does a lot for HigherEd.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dracul
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:22 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] video,voip and internet over DSL (converged)

Hi list,

is it feasible to broadcast video/voip + internet  over DSL like lets say I
deploy a cisco DSLAM infra in a 20 storey building. It would run over a
media server solution and a VOIP network. I am not sure if this would be a
stable solution considering I want to broadcast HD and SD alike plus VOIP
and internet to boot.

Any cons? like noise level or quality of the video or quality of bandwidth
etc. because DSL transport is just running over copper right? Or would I be
better off running fibre? But of course cost will then quantify the use of
DSL.

regards,
Chris
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From sethm at rollernet.us  Thu Apr  9 12:20:34 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:20:34 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
	<68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <49DE2052.6080609@rollernet.us>

Roland Dobbins wrote:
> 
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:
> 
>> Ideally, I would like to be able to assign the management device a RFC
>> 1918 IP, have the actual server be on a different subnet altogether
>> but use a shared port.
> 
> This isn't a good idea because of fate-sharing - you want your OOB
> management network to be isolated and bulletproof, and totally
> unaffected by any problems on the production side.  You should use
> separate NICs, with separate cables, plugged into a separate physical
> network (unless you're using N7K switches with VDCs, in which case you
> can safely run the management  network on a separate VDC on the same
> hardware, given the control- and management-plane isolation).
> 

Sometimes you just don't have a choice. I have two older Dell servers
that only give you the option of a shared ethernet port for their
onboard IPMI, take it or leave it. So I just put the port on a trunk:

interface FastEthernet0/3
 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
 switchport trunk native vlan 4
 switchport trunk allowed vlan 1,2,4,1002-1005
 switchport mode trunk
 spanning-tree portfast

Where VLAN2 is the management network and VLAN4 is the server network.
You could put the smallest switch you can find that understand vlans in
front of each server and break the two vlans out to individual untagged
ports, but you'll still need the trunk to get to the server.

~Seth

From tedm at toybox.placo.com  Thu Apr  9 12:32:11 2009
From: tedm at toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:32:11 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
In-Reply-To: <BLU102-W5986C71CD12D66289DC4B0FA820@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU102-W37E3AF56DD567394834287FA820@phx.gbl>	<49DD1A5A.2020001@rainierconnect.net>
	<BLU102-W5986C71CD12D66289DC4B0FA820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49DE230B.2020802@toybox.placo.com>

Without having a more detailed explanation of what browsing
problems your having, it's difficult to give any more specific
advice, but here goes:

1) browsers cache DNS lookups, so if your having repetitive
lookups fail off the same browser session, it's not actually a
DNS problem even though it might seem like one.

2) client operating systems also cache DNS lookups so if
your having repetitive lookups fail off multiple browser sessions
it's not actually a DNS problem even though it might seem like one.

3) if lookups work fine with nslookup but appear to fail in the
browser it's not actually a DNS problem

4) If you override your client OS DNS server IP addresses with
your ISP's DNS server IP addresses and you have lookup problems
it's not actually a DNS problem.

I think you probably are starting to get the picture here - many
things that people -think- are DNS problems actually aren't.  As
long as your being coy about what the exact problem is, your not
going to get much useful advice from us.  There's no need to be
embarassed, all of us have gone through these kinds of problems
before, often of our own making.

Practially all "DNS problems" I've ever troubleshot turned out
to be layer-2 problems, not DNS problems.

Just a thought.

Ted

Mohammad Khalil wrote:
> We are facing some browsing problems , so we want to make sure that our DNS servers are resolving well using tools other than nslookup
> 
>> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:42:50 -0700
>> From: walter.keen at rainierconnect.net
>> To: eng_mssk at hotmail.com
>> CC: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] DNS Tool
>>
>> Could you elaborate a little?
>>
>> We use Nagios to monitor other things, and use a DNS check plugin that
>> simply does a dns query and reports if it successfully got an answer.  I
>> think there are other ones that will compare the answer to a known good
>> answer you supply (wouldn't work well with something like Google.com or
>> yahoo.com that does a lot of round robin entries)
>>
>> Mohammad Khalil wrote:
>>> Hey all
>>> is there any tool that can monitor the DNS behavior ??
>>> for example , the resolving process and if there are any errors ??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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From rdobbins at cisco.com  Thu Apr  9 12:32:24 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:32:24 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <49DE2052.6080609@rollernet.us>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
	<68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>
	<49DE2052.6080609@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <EAEEE669-BC80-4E9E-A6DE-1CEE4E12412F@cisco.com>


On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:20 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

> I have two older Dell servers that only give you the option of a  
> shared ethernet port for their
> onboard IPMI, take it or leave it.

So, you can use the built-in port for that, and insert another NIC for  
use on the production side, yes?

;>

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   Our dreams are still big; it's just the future that got small.

		   -- Jason Scott


From sethm at rollernet.us  Thu Apr  9 13:26:53 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:26:53 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <EAEEE669-BC80-4E9E-A6DE-1CEE4E12412F@cisco.com>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>	<68D02AC4-8F1B-4D48-92D4-482F4936ACEF@cisco.com>	<49DE2052.6080609@rollernet.us>
	<EAEEE669-BC80-4E9E-A6DE-1CEE4E12412F@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <49DE2FDD.1000704@rollernet.us>

Roland Dobbins wrote:
> 
> On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:20 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> 
>> I have two older Dell servers that only give you the option of a
>> shared ethernet port for their
>> onboard IPMI, take it or leave it.
> 
> So, you can use the built-in port for that, and insert another NIC for
> use on the production side, yes?
> 

One could, but the single PCI-X (yes there's one and only one, not two)
slot is taken by a RAID card and the other onboard GE port is being used
for SAN access. ;)

For the OP, yes, do use a dedicated port even though it can drastically
expand your cabling and switching needs if you have a lot of servers.
Port sharing is a horrible, horrible hack.

~Seth

From cisco-nsp at natecarlson.com  Thu Apr  9 13:16:33 2009
From: cisco-nsp at natecarlson.com (Nate Carlson)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:16:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] best way to network servers with management (iLO/IPMI)
In-Reply-To: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700C788CB4@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0904091213160.20369@admin.det.technicality.org>

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009, Drew Weaver wrote:
> Ideally, I would like to be able to assign the management device a RFC 
> 1918 IP, have the actual server be on a different subnet altogether but 
> use a shared port. I know that BMCs generally can use VLAN tagging, but 
> I'm really not sure how I can do all of this with just one port.

Yeah, you can.. enable VLAN trunking on the port, set your native VLAN to 
whatever you want the OS's main interface to be on, allow the VLAN you 
want management on as tagged, and set up your IPMI card to tag on that 
VLAN. Works fine. The OS can still get at the management VLAN, though, if 
you enable VLAN tagging on the OS-level and set up an interface on that 
VLAN.

> The 'easy' way is to simply assign a dedicated NIC to the management 
> device and run another cable, but I'm not sure that is the best way to 
> do it.

..however, it is always my recommendation to use a dedicated NIC if you 
can. I've seen lots of issues with IPMI cards and shared interfaces.. for 
example, with many of the Supermicro motherboard and ipmi combos, when you 
assign an IP to the shared interface under Linux, all the sudden the IPMI 
stops working. Ooops. I think this is fixed in 2.6.27+, but still..

With the dedicated NIC, it's usually a completely isolated PHY, etc, so no 
matter what happens to the system itself, you can still get at IPMI, 
unless you lose power to that interface card.

From raa at opusnet.com  Thu Apr  9 14:34:16 2009
From: raa at opusnet.com (Ruben Alvarez)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 11:34:16 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
In-Reply-To: <49DD1BAD.6020604@toybox.placo.com>
References: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
	<49DD1BAD.6020604@toybox.placo.com>
Message-ID: <004a01c9b941$caa789c0$5ff69d40$@com>

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.  It running at ~18% cpu and is a 7206vxr w/NPE300.
This morning the loss cleared up.  I didn't collect enough data yesterday to
really get to the bottom of this, so I'll drop it as a Qwest megahost issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at toybox.placo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Ruben Alvarez
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices

Ruben Alvarez wrote:
> All,
>
> I've heard that Cisco devices handle ICMP at a low priority.  I found one
> post describing it handled in process-switching and not fast-switching.
> Does anyone have an article that explains that process and is it
> configurable?
>
> The reason I ask is I see about 4% packet loss when I ping devices in our
> broadband aggregation network.  From the CPE to the router there is none,
> from my workstation to the router there is none, but if I ping the whole
> path I get a fairly consistent 4% loss.  I can't find any congestion or
> errors.  Ping from my workstation to the CPE are a consistent 60ms, aside
> from the 4% loss.
>
> Thanks.
>
>   
What model is your router and can you post a config?

What is CPU utilization on the router?  What is memory utilization on 
the router?

Ted


From fwc at mt.net  Thu Apr  9 14:05:53 2009
From: fwc at mt.net (Forrest W. Christian)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:05:53 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Sonet "hard" patterns for testing
Message-ID: <49DE3901.1030807@mt.net>

I just got bit by a problem with scrambling not being on on a POS OC3 
with a upstream provider... (Long story - provisioning person at 
provider had no clue... insisted that it wasn't needed).   Symptom of 
course was certain files just not being able to be transfered past a 
certain point - where the file contained patterns not possible to 
transmit across a non-scrambled POS circuit.   Took me a while to find 
it, though, because normal ping packets of course go through just fine, 
100% of the time.

In testing this, though, I would have loved to have some payloads for 
ping packets which weren't sendable on a non-scrambled POS circuit.. and 
probably other underlying circuits also.   Sort of a set of "difficult" 
packets to try to send.

Google has not been my friend in this regard... probably not using the 
right keywords, if the data exists out there at all.

Ideas?

-forrest

From billw at waveform.net  Thu Apr  9 19:38:23 2009
From: billw at waveform.net (Bill Wichers)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:38:23 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Sonet "hard" patterns for testing
In-Reply-To: <49DE3901.1030807@mt.net>
References: <49DE3901.1030807@mt.net>
Message-ID: <EE3A1AFB71A1E54BA3D302718EA382F9067B4B@server1.WaveformTechnology.local>

The problem data strings are usually either strings that match control
codes or long sequences of either all ones or all zeroes. If too many
bits go by without any transitions it is possible for the receiver to
loose sync with the network. You might want to just try a packet of all
zeroes or ones as an experiment.

You might try looking up one of the earlier documents detailing the
SONET specification. There used to be a lot more concern for timing and
jitter and the like than there is now, which I think is due to better
time bases in modern gear making many of those issues less of a problem.


I'd try looking for things like "jitter" and "clocking" in your search.
While those might not key in on what you're looking for directly,
they're likely to find you information that also includes some of what
you're looking for.

   -Bill


> I just got bit by a problem with scrambling not being on on a POS OC3
> with a upstream provider... (Long story - provisioning person at
> provider had no clue... insisted that it wasn't needed).   Symptom of
> course was certain files just not being able to be transfered past a
> certain point - where the file contained patterns not possible to
> transmit across a non-scrambled POS circuit.   Took me a while to find
> it, though, because normal ping packets of course go through just
fine,
> 100% of the time.
> 
> In testing this, though, I would have loved to have some payloads for
> ping packets which weren't sendable on a non-scrambled POS circuit..
and
> probably other underlying circuits also.   Sort of a set of
"difficult"
> packets to try to send.
> 
> Google has not been my friend in this regard... probably not using the
> right keywords, if the data exists out there at all.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> -forrest

From hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu  Fri Apr 10 05:09:32 2009
From: hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu (Hegedus Gabor)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:09:32 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] c861w wifi problem: reached max retries
Message-ID: <49DF0CCC.4050103@euroway.hu>

Hi all!

I have a problem!

I see this log in my c861W ap:

Apr 10 06:48:42: %DOT11-6-ROAMED: Station 001f.0000.f4ab Roamed to 
001d.70d0.0001
Apr 10 06:48:42: %DOT11-4-MAXRETRIES: Packet to client 001f.3b20.f4ab 
reached max retries, removing the client
Apr 10 06:49:14: %DOT11-6-ROAMED: Station 001f.0000.f4ab Roamed to 
001d.7060.0002
Apr 10 06:59:46: %DOT11-6-ASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, Station   
001f.0000.f4ab Reassociated KEY_MGMT[WPAv2]
Apr 10 07:00:23: %DOT11-6-ROAMED: Station 001f.0000.f4ab Roamed to 
001d.70d0.0001
Apr 10 07:00:23: %DOT11-6-DISASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, 
Deauthenticating Station 001f.3b20.f4ab 
Apr 10 07:00:23: %DOT11-4-MAXRETRIES: Packet to client 001f.0000.f4ab 
reached max retries, removing the client
Apr 10 07:07:08: %DOT11-6-ASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, Station   
001f.0000.f4ab Reassociated KEY_MGMT[WPAv2-CP]
Apr 10 07:07:38: %DOT11-6-DISASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, 
Deauthenticating Station 001f.0000.f4ab Reason: Sending station has left 
the BSS
Apr 10 07:31:33: %DOT11-6-ASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, Station   
001f.0000.f4ab Reassociated KEY_MGMT[WPAv2-CP]
Apr 10 07:32:03: %DOT11-6-DISASSOC: Interface Dot11Radio0, 
Deauthenticating Station 001f.0000.f4ab Reason: Sending station has left 
the BSS
Apr 10 07:36:59: %DOT11-4-MAXRETRIES: Packet to client 001f.0000.f4ab 
reached max retries, removing the client
Apr 10 07:36:59: Client 001f.0000.f4ab failed: reached maximum retries

What is the problem?

cisco says:
Explanation:    This error message indicates that the access point 
attempts to poll the client a certain number of times, but does not 
receive a response. Therefore, the client is removed from the 
association table. This issue is commonly seen when the client and 
access point are attempting to communicate in a noisy RF environment.

Recommended Action:    To resolve this issue, run a carrier busy test on 
the access point to determine if there is excessive noise in the radio 
channel spectrum. Attempt to alleviate any unwanted noise. For more 
information, refer to the "Performing a Carrier Busy Test" section on 
page 6-26 
<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/12.3_7_JA/configuration/guide/s37rf.html#wpxref76047>. 



In Carrier Busy test, there is nothing ostentatious.

software version: (AP801-K9W7-M), Version 12.4(10b)JA3,

I use the 5 devices in WDS,  roaming works,
current wireless channel: 13


Any idea what is the problem?

If I use WDS, do all of the APs in the WDS domain have to use the same 
channel or not?

Thank you for help guys. Gabor

I send you a sample of the configuration:

dot11 ssid test
   vlan 1
   authentication open eap method_clients
   authentication network-eap method_clients
   authentication key-management wpa version 2
   accounting method_clients
!


interface Dot11Radio0
 no ip address
 no ip route-cache
 !
 encryption vlan 1 mode ciphers tkip
 !
 encryption vlan 2 mode ciphers tkip
 !
 ssid test
 !
 ssid test2
 !
 station-role root
 no dot11 extension aironet
!





 




From justin at justinshore.com  Fri Apr 10 11:14:10 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:14:10 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] OT:  SNMP Trap manager recommendation
Message-ID: <49DF6242.4090301@justinshore.com>

I'm in need of a decent SNMP Trap manager that scales and is free (OSS) 
or cheap.  I currently Nagios for my NMS and Cacti for data collection 
and graphing so clearly I'm a fan of OSS solutions.  I read an article 
several years ago in the now defunct SysAdmin magazine on tying in 
SNMP-TT into Nagios.  Is there a better way?  I need to collect traps 
from Hatteras equipment mainly but once I have it I'm sure I'll use it 
for other things as well.

My searches have so far turned up JFFNMS, OpenNMS, Mila NetWhistler, 
NetCool (expensive?) and a few others.  There's also the GroundWork fork 
of Nagios and other OSS tools that may be useful.

Any recommendations?  Thanks
  Justin


From danletkeman at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 11:30:08 2009
From: danletkeman at gmail.com (Dan Letkeman)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:30:08 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] passive ftp static nat
Message-ID: <dcbb85870904100830g731e1f98oebe77ad6ef0c06f3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I'm having trouble logging into our ftp server from an external
source.  It works when you set the client to active mode, but passive
mode always hangs.

2821, IOS Firewall

Relevant config:

ip inspect name SDM_LOW ftp

interface GigabitEthernet0/0
 ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.252
 ip nat inside
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0/3
 description Internet
 switchport access vlan 800
 bandwidth 10000
 no cdp enable
!
!
interface Vlan800
 description Internet
 bandwidth 10000
 ip address 64.x.x.1 255.255.255.224
 ip access-group firewall in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip flow ingress
 ip nat outside
 ip inspect SDM_LOW out
 ip virtual-reassembly
 no mop enabled
!
!
ip nat pool 152 64.x.x.1 64.x.x.1 netmask 255.255.255.224

ip nat inside source list internet-152 pool 152 overload

ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.24 21 64.x.x.1 21 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.24 80 64.x.x.1 80 extendable
!
ip access-list extended firewall
 permit tcp any host 64.x.x.1 eq ftp
 deny   ip any any log
!
ip access-list extended internet-152
  permit tcp host 172.16.0.24 any



I have tried adding:  "permit tcp any host 64.x.x.1 gt 1024
established"  to the firewall acl, but it still does not seem to
connect from a passive ftp client.

Dan.

From justin at justinshore.com  Fri Apr 10 11:41:37 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:41:37 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] OT:  Service provider-oriented QoS training
Message-ID: <49DF68B1.70900@justinshore.com>

I'm in need of a SP-oriented QoS training class.  We're just starting to 
deploy voice over G.SHDSL and bonded DS1s and are reaching out to more 
businesses than ever before.  My meager QoS knowledge (I can spell it 
and talk real big) isn't cutting it anymore.  I need guidance on QoS in 
an MPLS core, in a MetroE environment, re-coloring untrusted traffic at 
the edge, SP-provided voice and video (IPTV), edge product offerings 
that include certain QoS parameters (QoS for VoIP, gaming, etc), etc. 
The docs and books don't seem to be cutting it for me.  I'm sure they're 
fine for someone with a solid background in QoS but I'm afraid that 
doesn't describe me.  I'll pick it up I'm sure if I can spend a few days 
with an instructor in a classroom setting away from the phone (my phone 
at least).

Any suggestions?  The closest thing I've been able to find is the 
"Advanced Cisco Quality of Service" class from GlobalKnowledge, but it 
appears to be aimed more towards enterprises.

http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/course.asp?pageid=9&courseid=9368&catid=206&country=United+States

On a slightly different topic, what does everyone use for monitoring 
voice quality for VoIP customers?  Something that can capture calls and 
either hand us Wireshark-readable packet dumps or break it down in a web 
GUI for the non-Wireshark savvy to use would be great.  EdgeMarc has 
their EdgeView server with call quality monitoring features that look 
good but I'm pretty sure that it requires their CPE as well which is 
really not what we need or want.  What else is out there that SP's use 
for IP soft switches?

Thanks
  Justin


From tedm at toybox.placo.com  Fri Apr 10 13:06:54 2009
From: tedm at toybox.placo.com (Ted Mittelstaedt)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:06:54 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
In-Reply-To: <004a01c9b941$caa789c0$5ff69d40$@com>
References: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
	<49DD1BAD.6020604@toybox.placo.com>
	<004a01c9b941$caa789c0$5ff69d40$@com>
Message-ID: <49DF7CAE.3010002@toybox.placo.com>


Hi Ruben,

  If you running 12.3 or later IOS I'd suggest backreving to 12.2.  fast 
switching is
a problematical thing in the newer IOS on these older CPU cards.  I'd 
guess that
even if you have ip cef defined in your config, that cef isn't actually 
running.  what
does show ip cef, show cef day?

  IOS  12.1/12.2 is about the newest most people go on the NPE300

Ted

Ruben Alvarez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  It running at ~18% cpu and is a 7206vxr w/NPE300.
> This morning the loss cleared up.  I didn't collect enough data yesterday to
> really get to the bottom of this, so I'll drop it as a Qwest megahost issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at toybox.placo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:48 PM
> To: Ruben Alvarez
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
>
> Ruben Alvarez wrote:
>   
>> All,
>>
>> I've heard that Cisco devices handle ICMP at a low priority.  I found one
>> post describing it handled in process-switching and not fast-switching.
>> Does anyone have an article that explains that process and is it
>> configurable?
>>
>> The reason I ask is I see about 4% packet loss when I ping devices in our
>> broadband aggregation network.  From the CPE to the router there is none,
>> from my workstation to the router there is none, but if I ping the whole
>> path I get a fairly consistent 4% loss.  I can't find any congestion or
>> errors.  Ping from my workstation to the CPE are a consistent 60ms, aside
>> from the 4% loss.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>   
>>     
> What model is your router and can you post a config?
>
> What is CPU utilization on the router?  What is memory utilization on 
> the router?
>
> Ted
>
>   


From rubensk at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 14:10:04 2009
From: rubensk at gmail.com (Rubens Kuhl)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:10:04 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] OT: SNMP Trap manager recommendation
In-Reply-To: <49DF6242.4090301@justinshore.com>
References: <49DF6242.4090301@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <6bb5f5b10904101110k1adbee70pc144d671a164d82f@mail.gmail.com>

> My searches have so far turned up JFFNMS, OpenNMS, Mila NetWhistler, NetCool
> (expensive?) and a few others. ?There's also the GroundWork fork of Nagios
> and other OSS tools that may be useful.

On the "few others" section, Castlerock's SNMPc is a nice, cheap
product we are very fond of.

What's Up Gold and Solarwinds ipMonitor and Orion NPM might also fit
one's budget, but no direct experience on those.



Rubens

From awain567 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 10 14:16:27 2009
From: awain567 at yahoo.com (Alex Wa)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:16:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] RSPAN VLAN filter & TCAM issue
Message-ID: <796193.38319.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi guys,
?
We're receiving this log message when trying to apply a vlan filter to a RSPAN VLAN. 
?
Apr 10 13:36:08.580: %FM-4-TCAM_ENTRY: Hardware TCAM entry capacity exceeded
Apr 10 13:36:08.580: %FM-2-VACL_FAILURE: Interface Vlan100 traffic will not comply with VACLs in ingress direction(s)
?
We don't have any access list applied to any interface except the VLAN filter , and in total 16 access-lists. the sh tcam counts is below (when the output was taken the vlan filter wasn't applied)
?
?????????? Used??????? Free??????? Percent Used?????? Reserved
?????????? ----??????? ----??????? ------------?????? --------
?Labels:????? 2???????? 510??????????? 0
ACL_TCAM
? Masks:????? 2??????? 4094??????????? 0???????????????????? 0
Entries:???? 16?????? 32752??????????? 0???????????????????? 0
QOS_TCAM
? Masks:????? 0??????? 4096??????????? 0???????????????????? 0
Entries:????? 0?????? 32768??????????? 0???????????????????? 0
??? LOU:????? 0????????? 64??????????? 0
? ANDOR:????? 0????????? 16??????????? 0
? ORAND:????? 1????????? 15??????????? 6
??? ADJ:????? 0??????? 1024??????????? 0?
?
Cisco's error decoder recomends to delete unused access list but we can't reduce no more and 16 acess lists ?is a normal, if not low, amount . 
?
any hint ?
?
thanks in advance,
Alejandro Wainshtok


      

From bdikici at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 18:55:09 2009
From: bdikici at gmail.com (Burak Dikici)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:55:09 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Multihoming and syncronous traffic flow for the
	different traffic types
Message-ID: <d9281f5c0904101555n62ffe6d3jeff018830399e273@mail.gmail.com>

ISP-1                                             ISP-2
same country ISP               outside of country ISP
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
|                                                      |
----------     My router (Cisco 7600)--------
                              |
                              |
                              |
User's real subnet (for example 50.50.0.0)



Hello ,

I have got two different ISPs connections from my router. One of the ISP is
in my country (local ISP) , other IPS is in the different country. Here are
the requiremets ;

If the traffic is p2p and if it goes to the outside of the country , use
ISP-2. And the return of this traffic will come from the ISP-2 link.
(syncronous traffic flow)

The other traffic types will use the ISP-1 connection. For example , maybe
p2p traffic goes inside of the country. Use ISP-1 connection for this type
of traffic as well.

How can i differentiate the traffic goes to the inside of the country , or
the outside of the country ?

The users have got real ip addresses. (Nearly 10.000 users.) To catch the
p2p traffic , i think we have to use NBAR. To route the different kind of
traffic types , i think we have to use PBR. For this kind of request , i can
use NATing on the ISP-2 link. But , is this cause any problem for this type
of connection on the Cisco 7600 model router ? Is NAT doing on the Cisco
7600 router by software based or hardware based ? For complete scenario , we
have to use NAT , PBR and NBAR. Is that cause any problem on the Cisco 7600
router , what about performance ? Could you give me an idea how can it be
done ? Kind Regards...

Burak Dikici

From acm at axians.de  Sat Apr 11 08:51:09 2009
From: acm at axians.de (Cheikh-Moussa Ahmad)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:51:09 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 4948 MAX Arp entries
In-Reply-To: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658AF6@n120531.nknetworks.com>
References: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658AF6@n120531.nknetworks.com>
Message-ID: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658D1B@n120531.nknetworks.com>

Hi Guys,

it looks like my question wasn't that easy. Anyone knowing a good link,
where to find more specific informations about TCAM ?

Regards,
 Ahmad


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
> bounces at puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von Cheikh-Moussa Ahmad
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. April 2009 14:26
> An: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Betreff: [c-nsp] 4948 MAX Arp entries
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I have searched a lot of sites and unfortunately didn't find a answer.
> Can someone tell me, how much arp entries (adjacencies) a 4948 switch
> can handle ?
> For L2 switching it can has up to 32K or the 4948-10g up to 55k entries,
> but I could not
> find anything about the max arp entries. As far as I know this arp
> entries or adjacencies
> are stored in TCAM. So the 4948 series can have 64k entries in the TCAM.
> 
> Am I right, when I say :
> TCAM 64K =
> 32K IPv4 unicast routes
> 32K Unicast arp entries (adjacencies)
> 
> What about the acls and qos configuration ? These are also stored in
> TCAM, right ?
> So if this right, then I never reach this, what I can found on the
> datasheets of the
> switches :
> * Unicast and multicast routing entries: 32,000
> * Policers: 512 ingress and 512 egress
> * Access control list (ACL) and QoS entries: 32,000
> 
> Could it be that all these features share the same TCAM ?
> I'am little bit confused.
> 
> Regards,
>  Ahmad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ahmad Cheikh-Moussa
> Consultant
> Business Unit Carrier & Service Provider
> 
> AXIANS
> NK Networks & Services GmbH
> Fischertwiete 2, Chilehaus A
> 20095 Hamburg
> 
> Tel.:  +49 40 237 899 - 72
> Fax:   +49 40 237 899 - 69
> 
> Ahmad.cheikh-moussa at axians.de
> Acheikh-moussa at axians.de
> acm at axians.de
> www.axians.com
> 



Sitz der NK Networks & Services GmbH: Von-der-Wettern-Stra?e 15, 51149 K?ln
Registergericht: Amtsgericht K?ln, Registernummer HRB 30805
Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Tonis R?sche


From bdikici at gmail.com  Sat Apr 11 11:39:49 2009
From: bdikici at gmail.com (Burak Dikici)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:39:49 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] BGP Multihoming and syncronous traffic flow for the
	different traffic types
In-Reply-To: <d9281f5c0904101555n62ffe6d3jeff018830399e273@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9281f5c0904101555n62ffe6d3jeff018830399e273@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d9281f5c0904110839q1c9b69dci12964ff558171465@mail.gmail.com>

  P2P is peer to peer traffic. Peer to peer traffic to the outside of the
country , it will go over the ISP-2 link , and the return traffic of this
connection will come back through the same ISP-2 link.
  My clients are using the real ip addresses. If i advertise their subnet
from the ISP-1 with BGP to the outside world , the outside world knows them
via the ISP-1 link and the their return traffic will come through the ISP-1
link.
  I catch the outside of the country with p2p traffic with NBAR and route
this traffic to the ISP-2 with PBR , what about the return traffic of this
connection ? At this point the NATing comes in the play. The outside of the
country with p2p traffic's source ip address will be NATed to the ISP-2 NAT
pool addresses. And this NAT pool addresses will be advertise with BGP only
to the ISP-2 link. Therefore , the outside world knows this addresses only
through the ISP-2 and the return traffic of this connection will come back
through the ISP-2 link , it is symmetrical traffic flow for the outside of
the country with p2p traffic. Am i right ?

How can it be done without using the NAT ?
Regards...





On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com> wrote:

> ISP-1
> ISP-2
> same country ISP               outside of country ISP
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> |                                                      |
> ----------     My router (Cisco 7600)--------
>                               |
>                               |
>                               |
> User's real subnet (for example 50.50.0.0)
>
>
>
> Hello ,
>
> I have got two different ISPs connections from my router. One of the ISP is
> in my country (local ISP) , other IPS is in the different country. Here are
> the requiremets ;
>
> If the traffic is p2p and if it goes to the outside of the country , use
> ISP-2. And the return of this traffic will come from the ISP-2 link.
> (syncronous traffic flow)
>
> The other traffic types will use the ISP-1 connection. For example , maybe
> p2p traffic goes inside of the country. Use ISP-1 connection for this type
> of traffic as well.
>
> How can i differentiate the traffic goes to the inside of the country , or
> the outside of the country ?
>
> The users have got real ip addresses. (Nearly 10.000 users.) To catch the
> p2p traffic , i think we have to use NBAR. To route the different kind of
> traffic types , i think we have to use PBR. For this kind of request , i can
> use NATing on the ISP-2 link. But , is this cause any problem for this type
> of connection on the Cisco 7600 model router ? Is NAT doing on the Cisco
> 7600 router by software based or hardware based ? For complete scenario , we
> have to use NAT , PBR and NBAR. Is that cause any problem on the Cisco 7600
> router , what about performance ? Could you give me an idea how can it be
> done ? Kind Regards...
>
> Burak Dikici

From lists at hojmark.org  Sat Apr 11 16:54:06 2009
From: lists at hojmark.org (Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:54:06 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 4948 MAX Arp entries
In-Reply-To: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658AF6@n120531.nknetworks.com>
References: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658AF6@n120531.nknetworks.com>
Message-ID: <50F3D441178E4472814BD21298295A77@hojmark.net>

> What about the acls and qos configuration ? These are also 
> stored in TCAM, right ?

It's separate TCAM, described in http://tinyurl.com/cu4a9o
 
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps663/products_tech_note091
86a008054a499.shtml)

-A


From frnkblk at iname.com  Sun Apr 12 01:38:01 2009
From: frnkblk at iname.com (Frank Bulk)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 00:38:01 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000
In-Reply-To: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
References: <20090407154647.GQ20028@rtp-cse-489.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAAKTyXRN5/+lGvU59a+P7CFMBAN6gY+ZG84BMpVQcAbDh1IQAAAATbSgAABAAAADTKg/yl7p/Sbr5SgUI12WVAQAAAAA=@iname.com>

Could the ASR1000 be the box that Cisco recommends for carrier IPv6 NAT
(i.e. IPv6 to IPv4 translations)?

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Rodney Dunn
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:47 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ASR1000

Few bugs still being worked through but the 72xx and 76xx croaked
under the load:

ASR1002ESP10#sh proc cpu sort | excl 0.00
CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 0%; five minutes: 0%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process 
ASR1002ESP10#sh ip nat stat
Total active translations: 92367 (80 static, 92287 dynamic; 92287 extended)
Outside interfaces:
  GigabitEthernet0/0/0, Tunnel1
Inside interfaces: 
  GigabitEthernet0/0/1, GigabitEthernet0/0/2
Hits: 0  Misses: 0
CEF Translated packets: 0, CEF Punted packets: 0
Expired translations: 87400847


that's on 12.2(33)XNC and I just filed one bug.

CSCsy93931 ASRNAT does not do FIN/RST/SYN timeout when no-payload keyword
used


My first work on the box with NAT but this thing seems pretty impressive.

Anyone else using it for high scale nat yet?

Rodney


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From frnkblk at iname.com  Sun Apr 12 02:00:57 2009
From: frnkblk at iname.com (Frank Bulk)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:00:57 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] OT:  Service provider-oriented QoS training
In-Reply-To: <49DF68B1.70900@justinshore.com>
References: <49DF68B1.70900@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAAKTyXRN5/+lGvU59a+P7CFMBAN6gY+ZG84BMpVQcAbDh1IQAAAATbSgAABAAAAC88vDsHfYcRZFEabBAbGzsAQAAAAA=@iname.com>

Lots of tools out there, you get as much as you want to pay for:
- if you're doing PacketCable VoIP, then the Tektronix product (through
their Minacom acquistion) seems the right fit.  The Arris eMTAs also have
lots of stats that are queryable via SNMP or the CLI.
- Brix-line of products now part of EXFO
- Empirix's Hammer
- if you're serving an enterprise, then Cisco's IP SLA may be a fit
There's more here:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/How+To+Debug+and+Troubleshoot+VOIP

RTCP XR (RFC 3611) is the standard you want to take advantage of, if the CPE
supports it.

The ability for the product to extract/obtain metrics from your softswitch
will totally depend if the vendor has done the integration work.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Justin Shore
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
To: 'Cisco-nsp'
Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Service provider-oriented QoS training

<snip>

On a slightly different topic, what does everyone use for monitoring 
voice quality for VoIP customers?  Something that can capture calls and 
either hand us Wireshark-readable packet dumps or break it down in a web 
GUI for the non-Wireshark savvy to use would be great.  EdgeMarc has 
their EdgeView server with call quality monitoring features that look 
good but I'm pretty sure that it requires their CPE as well which is 
really not what we need or want.  What else is out there that SP's use 
for IP soft switches?

Thanks
  Justin

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From piotr.nowacki at interia.pl  Sun Apr 12 05:06:19 2009
From: piotr.nowacki at interia.pl (Piotr Nowacki)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 10:06:19 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] OT:  SNMP Trap manager recommendation
In-Reply-To: <49DF6242.4090301@justinshore.com>
References: <49DF6242.4090301@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <20090412090619.GA3842@i-194-106-50-219>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:14:10AM -0500, Justin Shore wrote:
> I'm in need of a decent SNMP Trap manager that scales and is free (OSS) 
> or cheap.  I currently Nagios for my NMS and Cacti for data collection 
> and graphing so clearly I'm a fan of OSS solutions.  I read an article 
> several years ago in the now defunct SysAdmin magazine on tying in 
> SNMP-TT into Nagios.  Is there a better way?  I need to collect traps 
> from Hatteras equipment mainly but once I have it I'm sure I'll use it 
> for other things as well.
> 
> My searches have so far turned up JFFNMS, OpenNMS, Mila NetWhistler, 
> NetCool (expensive?) and a few others.  There's also the GroundWork fork 
> of Nagios and other OSS tools that may be useful.
> 
> Any recommendations?  Thanks
>  Justin
Hi,
take a look at Opsview (www.opsview.org)
It is basically nagios with heavily patched NDO and Java frontend.
It does support basic SNMP Traps processing.

Peter


From sami.joseph at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 07:45:13 2009
From: sami.joseph at gmail.com (Sami Joseph)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 13:45:13 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Testing reachability
Message-ID: <9da37ec40904120445y51a94a4fmdc38c84f134eb703@mail.gmail.com>

Network Management Gurus,

I have an Enterprise network and my NMS is showing interfaces on some
devices as down and that is because it keeps checking their availability
with snmp/ping and if one response is missed then it considers the interface
as down and needs to acknowledge/clearing the alarm in order to remove it.

I would like to know why that response is missed so we can fix it. Is there
a tool that can give me a detailed report that  can help me troubleshoot
this?

Regards,
Sam

From aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 09:16:05 2009
From: aftab.siddiqui at gmail.com (Aftab Siddiqui)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:16:05 +0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Testing reachability
In-Reply-To: <9da37ec40904120445y51a94a4fmdc38c84f134eb703@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9da37ec40904120445y51a94a4fmdc38c84f134eb703@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3c605ce10904120616k5959bd02ua9009d8b2b1df5aa@mail.gmail.com>

There could be several reasons for a packet drop on particualr in some
point in time. It could be coz of high traffic utilization or may be
coz of high cpu utilization incase of a system process. There is no
general rule for troubleshooting that's why placing the NMS is very
critical with in the enterprise network.

For a start if you have snmp enabled devices than start polling the
switch/router ports for traffic (mrtg) and CPU.

It will definately help to drill down the problem.

On 12/04/2009, Sami Joseph <sami.joseph at gmail.com> wrote:
> Network Management Gurus,
>
> I have an Enterprise network and my NMS is showing interfaces on some
> devices as down and that is because it keeps checking their availability
> with snmp/ping and if one response is missed then it considers the interface
> as down and needs to acknowledge/clearing the alarm in order to remove it.
>
> I would like to know why that response is missed so we can fix it. Is there
> a tool that can give me a detailed report that  can help me troubleshoot
> this?
>
> Regards,
> Sam
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui

From david.freedman at uk.clara.net  Sun Apr 12 10:06:48 2009
From: david.freedman at uk.clara.net (David Freedman)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 15:06:48 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] 12.4(T) feature oddness
Message-ID: <1BD38DD97E9BEB40A599BFCCED93CC7F4780D5@EXVS01.claranet.local>


I've been looking at doing some EEM stuff with client kit using latest 12.4(T) and have come across some feature oddness.

It appears that, you can not make outgoing ISDN calls without using the ADVANCED ENTERPRISE license 
(using ADVANCED IP will give you obscure messages such as "Outgoing Call id XXXX Blocked")

This is fine and dandy, however, am deploying some EEM applets on the CPE which I would like to
respond to SNMP traps which are sent from events on the CPE and looped back to itself 
(I don't want to rely on logging for event triggers in case there is a logging storm
and I miss the messages), in such case, I need the trap receiver or "snmp-server manager"
command which ONLY appears to be present in ADVANCED IP and not ADVANCED ENTERPRISE

Does anybody know a way around this sillyness? The box in question is an 876 on which 
I am compelled to run technology train (I do not believe there is mainline support for 876 yet?)


thanks in advance

Dave.

------------------------------------------------
David Freedman
Group Network Engineering 
Claranet Limited
http://www.clara.net


From zivl at gilat.net  Sun Apr 12 10:58:43 2009
From: zivl at gilat.net (Ziv Leyes)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:58:43 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] OT:  Service provider-oriented QoS training
In-Reply-To: <5c7a3dff-6cb1-4c47-8977-6d8058c74118@exch2k7.gilat.local>
References: <49DF68B1.70900@justinshore.com>
	<5c7a3dff-6cb1-4c47-8977-6d8058c74118@exch2k7.gilat.local>
Message-ID: <EC993E87D960A541A66BF21D62AA42A622E22809B6@exch2k7.gilat.local>

You may want to take a look at what RADCOM's Omni-Q has to offer on this field



-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 9:01 AM
To: 'Justin Shore'; 'Cisco-nsp'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT: Service provider-oriented QoS training

Lots of tools out there, you get as much as you want to pay for:
- if you're doing PacketCable VoIP, then the Tektronix product (through
their Minacom acquistion) seems the right fit.  The Arris eMTAs also have
lots of stats that are queryable via SNMP or the CLI.
- Brix-line of products now part of EXFO
- Empirix's Hammer
- if you're serving an enterprise, then Cisco's IP SLA may be a fit
There's more here:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/How+To+Debug+and+Troubleshoot+VOIP

RTCP XR (RFC 3611) is the standard you want to take advantage of, if the CPE
supports it.

The ability for the product to extract/obtain metrics from your softswitch
will totally depend if the vendor has done the integration work.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Justin Shore
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:42 AM
To: 'Cisco-nsp'
Subject: [c-nsp] OT: Service provider-oriented QoS training

<snip>

On a slightly different topic, what does everyone use for monitoring 
voice quality for VoIP customers?  Something that can capture calls and 
either hand us Wireshark-readable packet dumps or break it down in a web 
GUI for the non-Wireshark savvy to use would be great.  EdgeMarc has 
their EdgeView server with call quality monitoring features that look 
good but I'm pretty sure that it requires their CPE as well which is 
really not what we need or want.  What else is out there that SP's use 
for IP soft switches?

Thanks
  Justin

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From charles at thewybles.com  Sun Apr 12 12:29:08 2009
From: charles at thewybles.com (Charles Wyble)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:29:08 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Testing reachability
In-Reply-To: <3c605ce10904120616k5959bd02ua9009d8b2b1df5aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9da37ec40904120445y51a94a4fmdc38c84f134eb703@mail.gmail.com>
	<3c605ce10904120616k5959bd02ua9009d8b2b1df5aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E216D4.5030503@thewybles.com>

Lower you NMS sensitivity. Only have it alert after n failures in n 
time. I do this with nagios. It has an algorithm which causes it to 
change the level of checking dynamically based on if their is a failure 
or not.

Aftab Siddiqui wrote:
> There could be several reasons for a packet drop on particualr in some
> point in time. It could be coz of high traffic utilization or may be
> coz of high cpu utilization incase of a system process. There is no
> general rule for troubleshooting that's why placing the NMS is very
> critical with in the enterprise network.
> 
> For a start if you have snmp enabled devices than start polling the
> switch/router ports for traffic (mrtg) and CPU.
> 
> It will definately help to drill down the problem.
> 
> On 12/04/2009, Sami Joseph <sami.joseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Network Management Gurus,
>>
>> I have an Enterprise network and my NMS is showing interfaces on some
>> devices as down and that is because it keeps checking their availability
>> with snmp/ping and if one response is missed then it considers the interface
>> as down and needs to acknowledge/clearing the alarm in order to remove it.
>>
>> I would like to know why that response is missed so we can fix it. Is there
>> a tool that can give me a detailed report that  can help me troubleshoot
>> this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sam
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>
> 
> 

From chris.garzon at gmail.com  Sun Apr 12 22:56:42 2009
From: chris.garzon at gmail.com (Dracul)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:56:42 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] video,voip and internet over DSL (converged)
In-Reply-To: <223F626EF40847739E6B7BB120FAAC5B@Toshiba>
References: <876789290904081922te84a61ev1da8dff3f198b322@mail.gmail.com>
	<223F626EF40847739E6B7BB120FAAC5B@Toshiba>
Message-ID: <876789290904121956q2713f8b8g5573cf2fba8c255b@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all! I'll take into consideration all your inputs. Another thing.
will the CPU processing power of each DSLAM be enough or do I also need to
distribute its load, like not filling up a DSLAM's ports to its limit, maybe
70% only per floor of the building?

regards,
chris

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Scott Granados <gsgranados at comcast.net>wrote:

> DSL will work but you'll need the right flavor.
>
> You could set different PVC's with different QOS and characteristics but
> bottom line you'll need enough pipe to make this work.  I believe it's
> something on the order of 6 - 8 megabits for HD and 1-3 for sd.
>   I've heard although I've never used it personally that the ATT Uverse
> offering works similar to this with ADSL2+ on the last few feet in to the
> home.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dracul" <chris.garzon at gmail.com>
> To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:22 PM
> Subject: [c-nsp] video,voip and internet over DSL (converged)
>
>
>  Hi list,
>>
>> is it feasible to broadcast video/voip + internet  over DSL like lets say
>> I
>> deploy a cisco DSLAM infra in a 20 storey building. It would run over a
>> media server solution and a VOIP network. I am not sure if this would be a
>> stable solution considering I want to broadcast HD and SD alike plus VOIP
>> and internet to boot.
>>
>> Any cons? like noise level or quality of the video or quality of bandwidth
>> etc. because DSL transport is just running over copper right? Or would I
>> be
>> better off running fibre? But of course cost will then quantify the use of
>> DSL.
>>
>> regards,
>> Chris
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From scubacuda at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 00:22:19 2009
From: scubacuda at gmail.com (Rogelio)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 21:22:19 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] OT:  SNMP Trap manager recommendation
In-Reply-To: <20090412090619.GA3842@i-194-106-50-219>
References: <49DF6242.4090301@justinshore.com>
	<20090412090619.GA3842@i-194-106-50-219>
Message-ID: <49E2BDFB.5020908@gmail.com>

Piotr Nowacki wrote:
>>  Justin
> Hi,
> take a look at Opsview (www.opsview.org)
> It is basically nagios with heavily patched NDO and Java frontend.
> It does support basic SNMP Traps processing.

OpenNMS might also do what you need.

see this URL

http://www.opennms.org/index.php/Event_Configuration_How-To

particularly this section on traps using the trapd process

http://www.opennms.org/index.php/Event_Configuration_How-To#SNMP_Traps

There in eventconf.xml you can write up the details on how you'd like to 
trap things and convert them into something more user friendly.

(Which is what you're trying to do, right?)

HTH

From acm at axians.de  Mon Apr 13 07:33:53 2009
From: acm at axians.de (Cheikh-Moussa Ahmad)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:33:53 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 4948 MAX Arp entries
In-Reply-To: <50F3D441178E4472814BD21298295A77@hojmark.net>
References: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658AF6@n120531.nknetworks.com>
	<50F3D441178E4472814BD21298295A77@hojmark.net>
Message-ID: <A42033FF9D655E4D8200BFF349C5931D0A3E658D24@n120531.nknetworks.com>

Hi Asbjorn,

thanks for the link. That means this is right, because acl and qos
use a separate TCAM. 

TCAM 64K =
32K IPv4 unicast routes
32K Unicast arp entries (adjacencies)



Thanks,
 Ahmad


> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists [mailto:lists at hojmark.org]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 11. April 2009 22:54
> An: Cheikh-Moussa Ahmad
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Betreff: RE: [c-nsp] 4948 MAX Arp entries
> 
> > What about the acls and qos configuration ? These are also
> > stored in TCAM, right ?
> 
> It's separate TCAM, described in http://tinyurl.com/cu4a9o
> 
> (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps663/products_tech_not
> e091
> 86a008054a499.shtml)
> 
> -A



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From deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 07:35:48 2009
From: deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com (Deric Kwok)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 07:35:48 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 vs 2800 series different
Message-ID: <40d8a95a0904130435h372d686aie18645da6239899a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

What is different between 2600 and 2800 router?

I check it is just 100 different in ebay

Does 2800 also have feature as 2600? if yet

Does 3500 Router  also have same feature as 2600?

Does 2800 support VPN, tcsh command and vlan?

Thank you

From plunin at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 08:27:05 2009
From: plunin at gmail.com (Pavel Lunin)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:27:05 +0400
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ACE
Message-ID: <49E32F99.6010701@gmail.com>

Hi experts,

Who thinks what about an idea of using Cisco ACE module for 6500/7600 as 
a NAT device for a huge enterprise network?

I am looking for a device which would be capable to NAT traffic for a 
network of several thousand desktops + an enterprise-scale data center: 
up to 5 Gbps of traffic totally. Local sales say it is a nice idea to 
use ACE. The price is also very attractive in compare with any classic 
stateful firewall solution. But I myself have absolutely no experience 
with ACE and am also afraid nothing goes free. At least in Cisco world :)

Skimming through Cisco's datasheets it seems like ACE is rather a kind 
of load balancer, SSL accelerator, L7 proxy, etc. This functions are 
usually done in software. However ACE's NAT capabilities, announced by 
the vendor, should require lots of expensive hardware, just as any 
firewall does.

So where is the trick? Does anyone have real life experience with NAT on 
ACE module? Should we go there? Let's assume we don't need any other 
firewall features, only NAT.

Thank you.

--
Kind regards,
Pavel

From peter at rathlev.dk  Mon Apr 13 10:02:17 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:02:17 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 vs 2800 series different
In-Reply-To: <40d8a95a0904130435h372d686aie18645da6239899a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d8a95a0904130435h372d686aie18645da6239899a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1239631337.3480.10.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 07:35 -0400, Deric Kwok wrote:
> What is different between 2600 and 2800 router?
> 
> I check it is just 100 different in ebay
> 
> Does 2800 also have feature as 2600? if yet
> Does 3500 Router  also have same feature as 2600?
> Does 2800 support VPN, tcsh command and vlan?

The 2800 is the successor to the 2600. The last 2600 models were
announced EoS from march 2007.

The 2800 is likely to support more features than the 2600. It at least
supports IPSec, tclsh and 802.1Q VLANs with the correct IOS, though the
IPSec handling benifits from accellerator modules.

Regards,
Peter



From arievayner at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 11:44:37 2009
From: arievayner at gmail.com (Arie Vayner)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:44:37 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] NAT on ACE
In-Reply-To: <49E32F99.6010701@gmail.com>
References: <49E32F99.6010701@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20b13c6b0904130844n924aba3t96cb7d46a0055f40@mail.gmail.com>

Pavel,

ACE can do this, but you need to take a look also at other performance
metrics such as maximal session number (which could be very different for
the same BW rate for different session profiles).
Also, you need to make sure that more advanced features you may need are
available and are scalable enough (like static mappings etc).
You should also think about features like NetFlow and routing

It could be a good idea to actually split the NAT functionality of the
enterprise and the data center as their level of redundancy, features and
traffic profiles are quite different.

Arie

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Pavel Lunin <plunin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi experts,
>
> Who thinks what about an idea of using Cisco ACE module for 6500/7600 as a
> NAT device for a huge enterprise network?
>
> I am looking for a device which would be capable to NAT traffic for a
> network of several thousand desktops + an enterprise-scale data center: up
> to 5 Gbps of traffic totally. Local sales say it is a nice idea to use ACE.
> The price is also very attractive in compare with any classic stateful
> firewall solution. But I myself have absolutely no experience with ACE and
> am also afraid nothing goes free. At least in Cisco world :)
>
> Skimming through Cisco's datasheets it seems like ACE is rather a kind of
> load balancer, SSL accelerator, L7 proxy, etc. This functions are usually
> done in software. However ACE's NAT capabilities, announced by the vendor,
> should require lots of expensive hardware, just as any firewall does.
>
> So where is the trick? Does anyone have real life experience with NAT on
> ACE module? Should we go there? Let's assume we don't need any other
> firewall features, only NAT.
>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Pavel
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From jmkeller at houseofzen.org  Mon Apr 13 11:25:16 2009
From: jmkeller at houseofzen.org (James Michael Keller)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:25:16 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Verizon's PIP service
In-Reply-To: <BLU105-W204299E47DC1F7EA2F3F0A7A90@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU105-W204299E47DC1F7EA2F3F0A7A90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49E3595C.6060005@houseofzen.org>

Verizon's PIP (as of a few years ago, been a while since I left) was 
using a dedicated backbone and POPs (Inherited from the MCI merger) for 
the PIP service.   One of the downsides was there where limited POPs 
compared to the access network offerings.

Customer connections are just access lines into the POPs.   The local 
loops will ride the local carrier into the local POP, this often caused 
fairly long back-haul connections if there wasn't a POP close enough.   
Especially if customers where running diverse POP connections into sites 
for redundancy.  

So unless they have had to bring on third party POP sites, after the 
local loop it will be all Verizon controlled.    You would need to 
confirm the current configuration with your sales team, but I haven't 
had to terminate into anything other then a Verizon owned POP in the US 
or Western Europe yet.

-- 
James Michael Keller


D W wrote:
> Anyone happen to know if Verizon relies on any 3rd party service providers (using inter-AS MP-BGP, ATOM, etc.) for their PIP (MPLS based private IP) service? I'm trying to figure out which service providers have a national reach and fully contain/control their own MPLS clouds without relying on one another for transport.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009
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From jmkeller at houseofzen.org  Mon Apr 13 11:51:12 2009
From: jmkeller at houseofzen.org (James Michael Keller)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:51:12 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Opinions of DDoS appliances, other techniques,
 most  notably Cisco Guard
In-Reply-To: <e44f1b0e0903190950n43826cd3l2d2626c973a3aa09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700651DA6C@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>	<725C9117-BE48-468B-A39E-B69347853BAB@cisco.com>	<04670DB7-99B1-4F55-8DDD-9C036F93E4AF@cisco.com>	<49BD9755.6060608@justinshore.com>
	<e44f1b0e0903190950n43826cd3l2d2626c973a3aa09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E35F70.3090209@houseofzen.org>

Yes, I've crushed a MARS 110 unit with netflow data from around 200 
devices.    Cisco recommended we switch to a dedicated netflow collector 
and then feed the consolidated sessions into MARS rather then have MARS 
directly take all the raw netflows (ie layer3 switch flow and router 
flow having duplicate data for the same flow).

We're on the last 5.x build version before 6.x.   Getting ready to 
re-build it from a 6.x disk and see if the new SQL backend helps with 
some of that until we get a dedicated netflow box in.

---
James Michael Keller



Ryan Hughes wrote:
> MARS really isn't positioned to be a Netflow anomaly detection with the
> likes of Arbor and others previously mentioned. It's simply a feature that's
> in there to help bring into perspective of what's going on with your Cisco
> infrastructure from a threat perspective. And I would definitely be careful
> with the amount of logs and Netflow that you send to the device as you can
> definitely cause it to choke whereby the device isn't storing enough events
> for proper correlation.
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Justin Shore <justin at justinshore.com>wrote:
>
>   
>> Roland Dobbins wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
>>>
>>>  Arbor Peakflow SP, Narus Insight Manager, and Lancope StealthWatch Xe are
>>>       
>>>> three commercial NetFlow-based anomaly-detection systems.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I forgot to add Q1 Labs Q1Radar, and I believe NetQoS now have an
>>> anomaly-detection module, as well, though I've not seen it.
>>>
>>>       
>> How about MARS?  I'm trying to get a pair of IDSM2s returned (they don't
>> work right on 7600s) in exchange for a MARS 110R appliance.  That's roughly
>> the same price.  I'm planning on using it for log analysis. Would its
>> Netflow abilities be useful here?
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>
>>     
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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>   

From walter.keen at RainierConnect.net  Mon Apr 13 12:24:30 2009
From: walter.keen at RainierConnect.net (Walter Keen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:24:30 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <383357750904090125t302139f8o1d836243dc484010@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
	<74206b240904080701t75420f7dqd1298597e246008c@mail.gmail.com>
	<383357750904090125t302139f8o1d836243dc484010@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E3673E.1040705@rainierconnect.net>

Backplane speed per slot I would imagine.

Imagine the 7600 and it's 10-port 10Ge card.   If it only has 40gb on
the backplane or fabric for that slot... well... lets hope all 10 ports
aren't utilized to 100% at all times, It's a little over 2:1
over-subscription for the example I gave.

Mateusz Blaszczyk wrote:
> What's the difference between 40g/slot and 100g/slot ready ?
> Is it like "vista ready"?
>
> I would assume (wrongly?) that this is a hw limit?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> -mat
>
>   


From sethm at rollernet.us  Mon Apr 13 13:16:02 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:16:02 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] 2600 vs 2800 series different
In-Reply-To: <40d8a95a0904130435h372d686aie18645da6239899a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <40d8a95a0904130435h372d686aie18645da6239899a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E37352.9000601@rollernet.us>

Deric Kwok wrote:
> Hi
> 
> What is different between 2600 and 2800 router?
> 
> I check it is just 100 different in ebay
> 
> Does 2800 also have feature as 2600? if yet
> 
> Does 3500 Router  also have same feature as 2600?
> 
> Does 2800 support VPN, tcsh command and vlan?
> 

Did you try reading the data sheet?

http://cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps5854/ps5882/product_data_sheet0900aecd8016fa68_ps5854_Products_Data_Sheet.html

~Seth

From raymondh.nsp at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 13:30:37 2009
From: raymondh.nsp at gmail.com (raymondh (NSP))
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:30:37 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Opinions of DDoS appliances, other techniques,
	most  notably Cisco Guard
In-Reply-To: <49E35F70.3090209@houseofzen.org>
References: <F3318834F1F89D46857972DD4B411D700651DA6C@EXCHANGE.thenap.com>	<725C9117-BE48-468B-A39E-B69347853BAB@cisco.com>	<04670DB7-99B1-4F55-8DDD-9C036F93E4AF@cisco.com>	<49BD9755.6060608@justinshore.com>
	<e44f1b0e0903190950n43826cd3l2d2626c973a3aa09@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E35F70.3090209@houseofzen.org>
Message-ID: <60DD6789-8261-4A37-8C8E-8268C30C7018@gmail.com>

Personally, if cost isn't an issue and you're expecting to sink high  
volume of traffic, I'd suggest that you go for Peakflow SP together  
with TMS (It's still ranked as one of the better ones among the rest).
Else the ADM + AGM should work well enough. Generally for the MARS  
boxes, I'd propose the same concept to have a dedicated collector and  
forward it.


--raymondh

On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:51 PM, James Michael Keller wrote:

> Yes, I've crushed a MARS 110 unit with netflow data from around 200  
> devices.    Cisco recommended we switch to a dedicated netflow  
> collector and then feed the consolidated sessions into MARS rather  
> then have MARS directly take all the raw netflows (ie layer3 switch  
> flow and router flow having duplicate data for the same flow).
>
> We're on the last 5.x build version before 6.x.   Getting ready to  
> re-build it from a 6.x disk and see if the new SQL backend helps  
> with some of that until we get a dedicated netflow box in.
>
> ---
> James Michael Keller
>
>
>
> Ryan Hughes wrote:
>> MARS really isn't positioned to be a Netflow anomaly detection with  
>> the
>> likes of Arbor and others previously mentioned. It's simply a  
>> feature that's
>> in there to help bring into perspective of what's going on with  
>> your Cisco
>> infrastructure from a threat perspective. And I would definitely be  
>> careful
>> with the amount of logs and Netflow that you send to the device as  
>> you can
>> definitely cause it to choke whereby the device isn't storing  
>> enough events
>> for proper correlation.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Justin Shore  
>> <justin at justinshore.com>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Roland Dobbins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Arbor Peakflow SP, Narus Insight Manager, and Lancope  
>>>> StealthWatch Xe are
>>>>
>>>>> three commercial NetFlow-based anomaly-detection systems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I forgot to add Q1 Labs Q1Radar, and I believe NetQoS now have an
>>>> anomaly-detection module, as well, though I've not seen it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How about MARS?  I'm trying to get a pair of IDSM2s returned (they  
>>> don't
>>> work right on 7600s) in exchange for a MARS 110R appliance.   
>>> That's roughly
>>> the same price.  I'm planning on using it for log analysis. Would  
>>> its
>>> Netflow abilities be useful here?
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From blahu77 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 15:33:09 2009
From: blahu77 at gmail.com (Mateusz Blaszczyk)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:33:09 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <49E3673E.1040705@rainierconnect.net>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com> 
	<74206b240904080701t75420f7dqd1298597e246008c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<383357750904090125t302139f8o1d836243dc484010@mail.gmail.com> 
	<49E3673E.1040705@rainierconnect.net>
Message-ID: <383357750904131233g1150df4ao268138063321cff1@mail.gmail.com>

Okay,

But if I imagine crs-1 (my favorite example) with same limitation
(currently) of 40g per slot I don't see how it is 100G ready. Some say
that its because they will introduce 100g switching matrix
concurrently to new 100 LC, I am not 100% conviced that it satisfies
"100G ready" label. For me ready is now, crs-1/7600 is 40g ready but
not 100g.
It may never be.

That's why I don't understand position of this platform comparing to asr9k...

Best Regards,

-mat


2009/4/13 Walter Keen <walter.keen at rainierconnect.net>:
> Backplane speed per slot I would imagine.
>
> Imagine the 7600 and it's 10-port 10Ge card. ? If it only has 40gb on
> the backplane or fabric for that slot... well... lets hope all 10 ports
> aren't utilized to 100% at all times, It's a little over 2:1
> over-subscription for the example I gave.
>
> Mateusz Blaszczyk wrote:
>> What's the difference between 40g/slot and 100g/slot ready ?
>> Is it like "vista ready"?
>>
>> I would assume (wrongly?) that this is a hw limit?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> -mat
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
pgp-key 0x1C655CAB

From raa at opusnet.com  Mon Apr 13 18:46:29 2009
From: raa at opusnet.com (Ruben Alvarez)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:46:29 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
In-Reply-To: <49DF7CAE.3010002@toybox.placo.com>
References: <004901c9b874$59596e00$0c0c4a00$@com>
	<49DD1BAD.6020604@toybox.placo.com>
	<004a01c9b941$caa789c0$5ff69d40$@com>
	<49DF7CAE.3010002@toybox.placo.com>
Message-ID: <005101c9bc89$afcbf2d0$0f63d870$@com>

Hi

I did figure it out today.  It was my fault there was a null route on that
router.  The Virtual interfaces for each DSL customer will create a /32
route on the router and most of the time OSPF had a route.  But
intermittently, those routes would drop and the ICMP would drop too.  I've
since removed the null route and it's rock solid.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at toybox.placo.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:07 AM
To: Ruben Alvarez
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices


Hi Ruben,

  If you running 12.3 or later IOS I'd suggest backreving to 12.2.  fast 
switching is
a problematical thing in the newer IOS on these older CPU cards.  I'd 
guess that
even if you have ip cef defined in your config, that cef isn't actually 
running.  what
does show ip cef, show cef day?

  IOS  12.1/12.2 is about the newest most people go on the NPE300

Ted

Ruben Alvarez wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  It running at ~18% cpu and is a 7206vxr w/NPE300.
> This morning the loss cleared up.  I didn't collect enough data yesterday
to
> really get to the bottom of this, so I'll drop it as a Qwest megahost
issue.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:tedm at toybox.placo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:48 PM
> To: Ruben Alvarez
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Ping priority on Cisco devices
>
> Ruben Alvarez wrote:
>   
>> All,
>>
>> I've heard that Cisco devices handle ICMP at a low priority.  I found one
>> post describing it handled in process-switching and not fast-switching.
>> Does anyone have an article that explains that process and is it
>> configurable?
>>
>> The reason I ask is I see about 4% packet loss when I ping devices in our
>> broadband aggregation network.  From the CPE to the router there is none,
>> from my workstation to the router there is none, but if I ping the whole
>> path I get a fairly consistent 4% loss.  I can't find any congestion or
>> errors.  Ping from my workstation to the CPE are a consistent 60ms, aside
>> from the 4% loss.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>   
>>     
> What model is your router and can you post a config?
>
> What is CPU utilization on the router?  What is memory utilization on 
> the router?
>
> Ted
>
>   



From charles.regan at gmail.com  Mon Apr 13 19:58:49 2009
From: charles.regan at gmail.com (Charles Regan)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:58:49 -0300
Subject: [c-nsp] VLAN and switch and ?
In-Reply-To: <e353d880904131658q5afc67cbq81d1f09c8c328dd5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e353d880903040646t7afaa334yec3ad26b84d1fd7@mail.gmail.com>
	<A1666B81-2A80-47DF-B802-3EEE770FF602@princeton.edu>
	<40d8a95a0903041344v5ebf64ffk1288300312ed7371@mail.gmail.com>
	<e353d880903041347t77ee09b9n86781038f4724c34@mail.gmail.com>
	<e353d880903041348h49f2b96awc1009767bcb029e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<e353d880903041348h192919f9x32a68347dd29f24a@mail.gmail.com>
	<40d8a95a0903041435n51afa718qe90074f2f957ca1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<e353d880904131658q5afc67cbq81d1f09c8c328dd5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e353d880904131658s7b8867acvb48e3645e5dd79@mail.gmail.com>

For those interested here is how I made it work.
I bought two 3550 switch.

ISP----Wireless-BH#1----3550#1----Fiber----2950----3550#2----Wireless-BH#2----ISPClients

On the 3550#1 the port connected to Wireless-Backhaul1 I've used the
following command.
?switchport access vlan xx
?switchport mode dot1q-tunnel
?l2protocol-tunnel cdp
?l2protocol-tunnel stp
?l2protocol-tunnel vtp
?spanning-tree bpdufilter enable

Same thing on the 3550#2

Everything works perfectly.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Deric Kwok <deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I only have l2tp configuration in linux router. Here is below.
>>
>> Pls note that i don't know Jeff suggestion how?L2tp works out in your
>> network
>> it looks like his suggestion is same as L2tp so that I post to ask him
>>
>> I only know this l2tp worked in my setting before when doing in DSL
>>
>> HTH
>> !
>> interface Ethernet0
>> ?no ip address
>> ?speed 1000
>> ?duplex full
>> !
>> interface Ethernet0.120
>> ?description vlan120
>> ?ip address 10.0.0.6 255.255.255.252
>> !
>> interface Ethernet0.130
>> ?description vlan130
>> ?ip address 10.0.0.74 255.255.255.252
>> !
>> interface Ethernet0.140
>> ?description vlan140
>> ?ip address 10.0.0.54 255.255.255.252
>> !
>> !
>> interface Tunnel1
>> ?description vlan120
>> ?tunnel mode l2tp
>> ?tunnel peer name xxxx
>> ?tunnel local name deric
>> ?tunnel key kwok
>> ?tunnel virtual-template 1
>> !
>> interface Tunnel2
>> ?description vlan130
>> ?tunnel mode l2tp
>> ?tunnel peer name xxxx
>> ?tunnel local name deric
>> ?tunnel key kwok
>> ?tunnel virtual-template 1
>> !
>> interface Tunnel3
>> ?description vlan140
>> ?tunnel mode l2tp
>> ?tunnel peer name xxxx
>> ?tunnel local name deric
>> ?tunnel key kwok
>> ?tunnel virtual-template 1
>> !
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Charles Regan <charles.regan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There's now way my switch will support L2TP.
>>>
>>> How would you setup VLAN in this setup.
>>>
>>> ISP needs to pass all his vlan (switchport mode trunk)
>>> I don't want ISP to have access to my network ... (swictchport access
>>> vlan 500, on both end ?)
>>> I want Internet acces from this ISP from his BackHaul1. ?(switchport
>>> access vlan 500, on my gateway router ?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Charles Regan <charles.regan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Charles Regan <charles.regan at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> There's now way my switch will support L2TP.
>>> >>
>>> >> How would you setup VLAN in this setup.
>>> >>
>>> >> ISP needs to pass all his vlan (switchport mode trunk)
>>> >> I don't want ISP to have access to my network ... (swictchport access
>>> >> vlan 500, on both end ?)
>>> >> I want Internet acces from this ISP from his BackHaul1. ?(switchport
>>> >> access vlan 500, on my gateway router ?)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Deric Kwok <deric.kwok2000 at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> look like L2TP.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Can I know why use it intead of typically vlan?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Jeff Fitzwater <jfitz at princeton.edu>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Look at layer 2 tunneling for your switches. ?You would assign tunnel
>>> >>>> vlan
>>> >>>> ID and ISP would send tagged traffic into tunnel (Q in Q) and traffic
>>> >>>> would
>>> >>>> exit tunnel where ever needed. ? When you assign a port as a tunnel
>>> >>>> port, it
>>> >>>> becomes a tunnel-input and tunnel-output. ? You can have as many
>>> >>>> tunnel
>>> >>>> ports as you need. ?The ISP can now send what ever VLANs they want
>>> >>>> and you
>>> >>>> do not need to change anything.
>>> >>>> Read the doc and be aware of oversized packet handling within tunnel
>>> >>>> switches.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Jeff Fitzwater
>>> >>>> OIT Network Systems
>>> >>>> Princeton University
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mar 4, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Charles Regan wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Good Morning,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'll try to explain what I want to do... We are LOCAL NETWORK in
>>> >>>>> this
>>> >>>>> graphic.
>>> >>>>> The ISP wants to use our fiber link to connect to his wireless
>>> >>>>> customer.
>>> >>>>> We also want internet access from his Wireless Backhaul1.
>>> >>>>> ISP also use VLAN on his customer subscriber modules.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> How would you configure 2924 Switch and 2960 Switch, so that
>>> >>>>> everything is transparent from my side and his side ?
>>> >>>>> I don't want him to call me to add a new VLAN on our switch.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ISP ---Wireless BackHaul1 -- 2924 Switch ---- FIBER ---- 2960 Switch
>>> >>>>> ---- Wireless Backhaul2 ---- Access Point ---- Wireless subscriber
>>> >>>>> modules
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? |
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>>> >>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?LOCAL NETWORK ? ? ? ? ? ?LOCAL NETWORK
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Will something like this work ?
>>> >>>>> switchport access vlan 500
>>> >>>>> switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
>>> >>>>> switchport mode trunk
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> cisco-nsp mailing list ?cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> >>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>> >>>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> cisco-nsp mailing list ?cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>> >>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cisco-nsp mailing list ?cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>
>>
>

From networkstuff.training at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 01:17:02 2009
From: networkstuff.training at gmail.com (Swati Sharma)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:47:02 +0530
Subject: [c-nsp] rpr-plus switchover
Message-ID: <8a93d4b30904132217p6d41d9bct139e3e865d5e09a8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am testing rpr-plus and could see links up in less then 1 sec but ping
resume only after 47 sec.... I understand with rpr-plus we get more then 30
sec of ping drop, still when all links are up and adj is up, why there is a
ping drop?

6500.LAB-sdby>
Standby console disabled

6500.LAB-sdby>
*Apr 14 05:03:28.909 UTC: %PFREDUN-SP-STDBY-6-ACTIVE: Initializing as ACTIVE
processor

*Apr 14 05:03:29.121 UTC: %SYS-SP-STDBY-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused
for 00:00:00 to ensure console debugging output.

*Apr 14 05:03:31.873 UTC: %TDP-5-INFO: default: TDP ID removed
*Apr 14 05:03:31.988 UTC: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 1 turned on.
*Apr 14 05:03:31.996 UTC: %C6KPWR-SP-4-PSOK: power supply 2 turned on.
*Apr 14 05:03:32.276 UTC: %FABRIC-SP-5-FABRIC_MODULE_ACTIVE: The Switch
Fabric Module in slot 5 became active.
*Apr 14 05:03:33.799 UTC: %OIR-SP-6-INSCARD: Card inserted in slot 5,
interfaces are now online
00:00:01: BaseBoard Index:156
00:00:02: DaughterBoard Index:208 (Centralized Forwarding Card)
00:00:02: Gemini Rev#: 3

Firmware compiled 18-Oct-07 14:48 by integ Build [100]


00:00:04: %SYS-CFC1-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) c6lc2 Software (c6lc2-SP-M), Version 12.2(18)SXF12a, RELEASE
SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 10-Jan-08 23:53 by kellythw
*Nov 30 00:00:02.167: *CFC1: Currently running ROMMON from S (Gold) region*
Apr 14 05:03:40.783 UTC: %DIAG-SP-6-RUN_COMPLETE: Module 1: Running Complete
Diagnostics...
Apr 14 05:03:42.179 UTC: %DIAG-SP-6-DIAG_OK: Module 1: Passed Online
Diagnostics
Apr 14 05:03:44.548 UTC: %OIR-SP-6-INSCARD: Card inserted in slot 1,
interfaces are now online
Apr 14 05:03:47.469 UTC: %DTP-SP-5-TRUNKPORTON: Port Gi1/1 has become dot1q
trunk
Apr 14 05:03:47.985 UTC: %DTP-SP-5-TRUNKPORTON: Port Gi1/3 has become dot1q
trunk
Apr 14 05:03:50.631 UTC: %DTP-SP-5-TRUNKPORTON: Port Gi1/18 has become isl
trunk
*Apr 14 05:03:57.157 UTC: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan100 Group 1 state
Listen -> Active
6500.LAB>
6500.LAB>en
Password:
6500.LAB#
*Apr 14 05:04:14.981 UTC: %CLNS-5-ADJCHANGE: ISIS: Adjacency to
0100.7409.0004 (GigabitEthernet1/23) Up, new adjacency
*Apr 14 05:04:15.065 UTC: %CLNS-5-ADJCHANGE: ISIS: Adjacency to
0100.7409.0002 (GigabitEthernet1/24) Up, new adjacency
*Apr 14 05:04:21.969 UTC: %LDP-5-NBRCHG: LDP Neighbor 10.74.90.4:0 is UP
*Apr 14 05:04:22.529 UTC: %LDP-5-NBRCHG: LDP Neighbor 10.74.90.2:0 is UP
*Apr 14 05:04:23.321 UTC: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.74.90.4 Up
*Apr 14 05:04:25.049 UTC: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: neighbor 10.74.90.2 Up
*Apr 14 05:04:45.369 UTC: %STANDBY-6-STATECHANGE: Vlan1503 Group 10 state
Standby -> Active
Apr 14 05:06:21.515 UTC: %PFREDUN-SP-6-ACTIVE: Standby initializing for
RPR-PLUS mode
Apr 14 05:06:21.711 UTC: %SYS-SP-3-LOGGER_FLUSHED: System was paused for
00:00:00 to ensure console debugging output.

Apr 14 05:06:23.464 UTC: %PFINIT-SP-5-CONFIG_SYNC: Sync'ing the startup
configuration to the standby Router.
6500.LAB#



Regards,

From gert at greenie.muc.de  Tue Apr 14 02:07:46 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:07:46 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] rpr-plus switchover
In-Reply-To: <8a93d4b30904132217p6d41d9bct139e3e865d5e09a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8a93d4b30904132217p6d41d9bct139e3e865d5e09a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090414060746.GK290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:47:02AM +0530, Swati Sharma wrote:
> I am testing rpr-plus and could see links up in less then 1 sec but ping
> resume only after 47 sec.... I understand with rpr-plus we get more then 30
> sec of ping drop, still when all links are up and adj is up, why there is a
> ping drop?

Spanning-Tree?

gert
-- 
USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
                                                           //www.muc.de/~gert/
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fax: +49-89-35655025                        gert at net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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From ATolstykh at integrysgroup.com  Tue Apr 14 10:31:57 2009
From: ATolstykh at integrysgroup.com (Tolstykh, Andrew)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:31:57 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] passive ftp static nat
In-Reply-To: <dcbb85870904100830g731e1f98oebe77ad6ef0c06f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcbb85870904100830g731e1f98oebe77ad6ef0c06f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ADFA18A30DF9B14B884FFE341DAC20F122254A@DOB-BXVS1.integrysgroup.net>

Dan,

In addition to the outbound CBAC inspection map you also need to create
another "ip inspect cbac_in" map (add ftp/data app inspection) and apply
it in the inbound direction on SVI VL800.

Andrew Tolstykh
Senior Network Analyst
Integrys Business Support, LLC
atolstykh at integrysgroup.com
(312) 240-3652


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dan Letkeman
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:30 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] passive ftp static nat

Hello,

I'm having trouble logging into our ftp server from an external
source.  It works when you set the client to active mode, but passive
mode always hangs.

2821, IOS Firewall

Relevant config:

ip inspect name SDM_LOW ftp

interface GigabitEthernet0/0
 ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.252
 ip nat inside
!
!
interface FastEthernet0/0/3
 description Internet
 switchport access vlan 800
 bandwidth 10000
 no cdp enable
!
!
interface Vlan800
 description Internet
 bandwidth 10000
 ip address 64.x.x.1 255.255.255.224
 ip access-group firewall in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip flow ingress
 ip nat outside
 ip inspect SDM_LOW out
 ip virtual-reassembly
 no mop enabled
!
!
ip nat pool 152 64.x.x.1 64.x.x.1 netmask 255.255.255.224

ip nat inside source list internet-152 pool 152 overload

ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.24 21 64.x.x.1 21 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.24 80 64.x.x.1 80 extendable
!
ip access-list extended firewall
 permit tcp any host 64.x.x.1 eq ftp
 deny   ip any any log
!
ip access-list extended internet-152
  permit tcp host 172.16.0.24 any



I have tried adding:  "permit tcp any host 64.x.x.1 gt 1024
established"  to the firewall acl, but it still does not seem to
connect from a passive ftp client.

Dan.
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From petelists at templin.org  Tue Apr 14 10:54:06 2009
From: petelists at templin.org (Pete Templin)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:54:06 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
Message-ID: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org>

List,

We're seeing some odd issues on a transport OC3c between two POPs.  We 
had a variety of failures at the Z end with two different Engine 0 4xOC3 
cards, so we swapped out to an Engine 3 4xOC3 card.  We're now seeing 
randomly-timed OSPF issues, as well as LOTS of PSE (positive stuff 
events) in the POS controllers.

According to the Cisco troubleshooting docs, the likely causes boil down 
to degraded/dirty/too-strong link or clocking issues.  At the Z end, 
it's a 10m run from the carrier FTP (with their DDM2000 in the same 
rack) to our router.  We started with a back-to-back SC-SC coupler and a 
1m SC-LC jumper so we could make the connector transition.  We've 
switched it for a properly-connectorized jumper from FTP to card, with 
no change.  We've tried multiple ports on the card, no change.  We've 
asked the carrier to investigate, since they hand off to another carrier 
"in the middle" to get to the A end.

Any thoughts on what to look for?

Pete

From lowen at pari.edu  Tue Apr 14 11:32:25 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:32:25 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
In-Reply-To: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org>
References: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org>
Message-ID: <200904141132.25902.lowen@pari.edu>

On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:54:06 Pete Templin wrote:
> Any thoughts on what to look for?

I'm running a 12012 with engine 0 4xOC3c cards here.

The first thing I look for when this sort of things occurs is 'clock source 
line' in the configuration.  I have swapped ports around before and forgotten 
to change the 'clock source internal' to 'clock source line' for the WAN 
OC3's, since I'm also using IR SM OC3's on campus over dark fiber (thus 'clock 
source internal' on both ends of those).  This presents itself as random 
up/down-down/up events when one or both ends of the WAN OC3 are accidentally 
set clock source internal.  Clock source line is supposed to be the default, 
incidentally.  I don't have an ISE 4xOC3 LC to try with for the OSPF flapping 
issues, sorry. 

It's also possible the ADM is sending you a too-hot signal; you can simulate 
an attenuator for testing by slightly pulling the SC for the receive out; this 
simulates an air-gap attenuator.  If you can get an improvement with a slight 
air-gap, it may be too hot from them to you, and you'll need to attenuate.

Have your read 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk482/tk607/technologies_tech_note09186a008009464b.shtml 
(Troubleshooting PSE and NSE Events on POS Interfaces)?  A Positive Stuff Event 
indicates a clock slip somewhere. (or the other things you mentioned; seems 
you have likely read this already.....)

The most revealing line of this is that the POS LC's themselves do not do any 
stuffing, and those path PSE's are being reported by the SONET cloud.  So it 
could be the interstital hop clock slipping.
-- 
Lamar Owen
Chief Information Officer
Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive
Rosman, NC  28772
http://www.pari.edu

From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Tue Apr 14 11:00:31 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:00:31 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <4981ce080904080128u2c54312apb7917ec5759a0335@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>
	<49DB7D59.1030006@forthnet.gr>
	<4981ce080904080128u2c54312apb7917ec5759a0335@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200904142300.32633.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

On Wednesday 08 April 2009 04:28:26 pm Emanuel Popa wrote:

> i'm really scared when using a fairly new platform with a
> fairly new software version.

Agree. I think the ASR9000 code is quite new.

As you say, documentation is scarce, but I'm not sure IOS XR 
is prime time for typical edge services (and more). Heck, 
we're still trying to let the ASR1000 catch up :-).

The 7200 has set quite a benchmark, but then again, the joys 
of doing things in hardware, new boxes, new code, e.t.c.

Mark.

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From petelists at templin.org  Tue Apr 14 11:44:41 2009
From: petelists at templin.org (Pete Templin)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:44:41 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
In-Reply-To: <200904141132.25902.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org> <200904141132.25902.lowen@pari.edu>
Message-ID: <49E4AF69.2020305@templin.org>

Lamar Owen wrote:

> The first thing I look for when this sort of things occurs is 'clock source 
> line' in the configuration.

Already checked.

> It's also possible the ADM is sending you a too-hot signal; you can simulate 
> an attenuator for testing by slightly pulling the SC for the receive out; this 
> simulates an air-gap attenuator.  If you can get an improvement with a slight 
> air-gap, it may be too hot from them to you, and you'll need to attenuate.

Is it possible for the signal to be too hot for an Engine 3 card, while 
not too hot for an Engine 0 card?  We had none of these OSPF events 
before switching cards.  Unfortunately, I wasn't checking for PSE before.

> Have your read 
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk482/tk607/technologies_tech_note09186a008009464b.shtml 
> (Troubleshooting PSE and NSE Events on POS Interfaces)?  A Positive Stuff Event 
> indicates a clock slip somewhere. (or the other things you mentioned; seems 
> you have likely read this already.....)

Yep, read that.

> The most revealing line of this is that the POS LC's themselves do not do any 
> stuffing, and those path PSE's are being reported by the SONET cloud.  So it 
> could be the interstital hop clock slipping.

My suspicion is the carrier-carrier handoff, though I'm quick to remind 
myself that the OSPF problems only showed up when we switched cards.

pt

From rekordmeister at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 11:48:36 2009
From: rekordmeister at gmail.com (MKS)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:48:36 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] SRC on 7200
Message-ID: <fad2fb270904140848m27688b24n1cd137928d6da246@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list

What's your experience with SRC or SRC3 on 7200, is it stable as a MPLS PE?

Regards
MKS

From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Tue Apr 14 12:18:32 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C. Darby)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:18:32 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] carrier router models comparison
In-Reply-To: <200904142300.32633.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
References: <4981ce080904070851h6381d4f0qf35885793e959087@mail.gmail.com>	<49DB7D59.1030006@forthnet.gr>	<4981ce080904080128u2c54312apb7917ec5759a0335@mail.gmail.com>
	<200904142300.32633.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
Message-ID: <49E4B758.4020904@usgs.gov>

To chime in a little bit here on the bleeding edge comments - we jumped 
on the Nexus 7K pretty early on (shortly after GA), as we would 
otherwise have spent about as much investing in new 6500's, our budget 
wasn't going to allow for replacing equipment for at least 5 years, and 
we were jumping on 10 Gigabit storage/LAN at this site so it had a clear 
advantage for us.

NX-OS has got its share of bugs, but the switch has never failed 
outright to do its job and it forwards packets as configured for us, 
though we were quite aware it was a good idea to keep its initial 
deployment pretty simple and we spent a couple months building up the 
configuration and testing.

I don't know how much you'd want to throw an ASR9000 into wide-area 
deployment immediately, but if you have a need it addresses well, I 
don't see why you couldn't get it to work based on my experience with 
the other Cisco bleeding edge OS (and probably a little bit of pre-sales 
engineering to go over your design).

Of course, the documentation for NX-OS pre-launch was amazingly well 
organized. But, different business unit, I guess. I haven't done more 
than glance at the XR docs but things seem very similar to NX-OS docs, 
which is pretty good compared to the old IOS docs that are scattered 
everywhere.

Justin

P.S. This message contains personal comments and should not be 
considered an endorsement of the US Federal Government. :)

Mark Tinka wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 April 2009 04:28:26 pm Emanuel Popa wrote:
>
>   
>> i'm really scared when using a fairly new platform with a
>> fairly new software version.
>>     
>
> Agree. I think the ASR9000 code is quite new.
>
> As you say, documentation is scarce, but I'm not sure IOS XR 
> is prime time for typical edge services (and more). Heck, 
> we're still trying to let the ASR1000 catch up :-).
>
> The 7200 has set quite a benchmark, but then again, the joys 
> of doing things in hardware, new boxes, new code, e.t.c.
>
> Mark.
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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From lists.james.edwards at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 12:46:47 2009
From: lists.james.edwards at gmail.com (james edwards)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:46:47 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Possible timing problems
Message-ID: <b7f636a60904140946s22a9b502gdf539b97bb61c437@mail.gmail.com>

This is on the 3700 and a DS3 card. Looks like I am losing timing, which is
derived from the line.
I have searched on "clock change..." and have not pulled anything up at
Cisco. I am not taking any errors.
I wish there was a clock slip counter.

Any ideas ?



Apr 14 02:23:06.295 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
up
Apr 14 02:23:06:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
Apr 14 02:23:07:  clock change removed for int ATM1/0
Apr 14 02:23:08:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
Apr 14 02:23:10.299 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
down
Apr 14 02:23:59:  clock change removed for int ATM1/0
Apr 14 02:24:01.302 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
up
Apr 14 02:24:01:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
Apr 14 02:24:03.302 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
down
Apr 14 02:26:46:  clock change removed for int ATM1/0
Apr 14 02:26:48.318 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
up
Apr 14 02:26:49.318 MST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
ATM1/0, changed state to up
Apr 14 02:53:59:  clock change done for int ATM1/0


xxxxx_3700#sho controll | in clock
 TX and RX clocks detected.
Clock Source      INTERNAL (but the source of this clock is derived from
LINE)

Roswell_3700#sho controll atm1/0 | in error-free
LCV error-free secs                     875335
DS3: F/M-bit error-free secs            875342
DS3: parity error-free secs             875335
DS3: path parity error-free secs        875335
T3/E3: excessive zeros error-free secs  875335
DS3/E3: G.832 FEBE error-free secs      868416
uncorrectable HEC error-free secs       875406
xxxx_3700#


-- 
James H. Edwards
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Judicial Information Division
jedwards at nmcourts.gov

From lowen at pari.edu  Tue Apr 14 12:54:25 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:54:25 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
In-Reply-To: <49E4AF69.2020305@templin.org>
References: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org>
Message-ID: <200904141254.25427.lowen@pari.edu>

On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:44:41 Pete Templin wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> > It's also possible the ADM is sending you a too-hot signal; you can
> > simulate an attenuator for testing by slightly pulling the SC for the
> > receive out; this simulates an air-gap attenuator.  If you can get an
> > improvement with a slight air-gap, it may be too hot from them to you,
> > and you'll need to attenuate.

> Is it possible for the signal to be too hot for an Engine 3 card, while
> not too hot for an Engine 0 card?  We had none of these OSPF events
> before switching cards.  Unfortunately, I wasn't checking for PSE before.

Hmm, engine 3 is using an SFF transceiver, but engine 0 an SC transceiver, so 
I would guess it's possible.  Although the link budgets and power levels are 
documented as being the same ( 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/12000/gsr_linecards/pos_lc/installation/guide/16412pos.html#wp652319 
).  Both are intermediate reach cards, right?  The engine 3 isn't a long reach 
by chance?  I'm successfully using a 10 meter OC3 SM IR link between a 7609 
OSM and an engine 0 4xOC3 IR, and it just works.

> >  So it could be the interstital hop clock slipping.

> My suspicion is the carrier-carrier handoff, though I'm quick to remind
> myself that the OSPF problems only showed up when we switched cards.

What sort of failures prompted the card switch?

-- 
Lamar Owen
Chief Information Officer
Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive
Rosman, NC  28772
http://www.pari.edu

From petelists at templin.org  Tue Apr 14 14:01:55 2009
From: petelists at templin.org (Pete Templin)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:01:55 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
In-Reply-To: <200904141254.25427.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org> <200904141254.25427.lowen@pari.edu>
Message-ID: <49E4CF93.2030306@templin.org>

Lamar Owen wrote:

> What sort of failures prompted the card switch?

Ugh.  Card #1 went offline following an IOS upgrade reboot.  Syslog 
messages suggested memory problems.  After being swapped out, a reseat 
of the memory brought the card back to life as a hot spare.

Card #2 began misbehaving with its one and only live link during the 
last NANOG.  'hw-mod slot X shutdown' and a removal of that brought the 
card back to life, but only for a few days.  Card #1 and #2 were swapped.

Then Card #1 began a few instances of random blackholing.  After a 
reboot, it went offline again.  Reseating memory didn't bring it back to 
life this time, so a memory swap with Card #2 was necessary.

Both are in the dumpster now.  Some other Engine 0 cards are soon to be 
freed up; I'm unfortunately tempted to roll back to one of those.

pt


From dudepron at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 14:38:15 2009
From: dudepron at gmail.com (Aaron)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:38:15 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
In-Reply-To: <49E4CF93.2030306@templin.org>
References: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org> <200904141254.25427.lowen@pari.edu>
	<49E4CF93.2030306@templin.org>
Message-ID: <480dad640904141138s76903cb0p7f93d20bf1de5733@mail.gmail.com>

The ends of each fiber should be treated independently as far as signal
strength. One side might indeed be stronger.
On the E3 side, are the other ports plugged into a different system? I think
that version slaves off of port 0 for all the ports for clocking.

PSE are not really an issue but are an annoyance.

Aaron

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 14:01, Pete Templin <petelists at templin.org> wrote:

> Lamar Owen wrote:
>
>  What sort of failures prompted the card switch?
>>
>
> Ugh.  Card #1 went offline following an IOS upgrade reboot.  Syslog
> messages suggested memory problems.  After being swapped out, a reseat of
> the memory brought the card back to life as a hot spare.
>
> Card #2 began misbehaving with its one and only live link during the last
> NANOG.  'hw-mod slot X shutdown' and a removal of that brought the card back
> to life, but only for a few days.  Card #1 and #2 were swapped.
>
> Then Card #1 began a few instances of random blackholing.  After a reboot,
> it went offline again.  Reseating memory didn't bring it back to life this
> time, so a memory swap with Card #2 was necessary.
>
> Both are in the dumpster now.  Some other Engine 0 cards are soon to be
> freed up; I'm unfortunately tempted to roll back to one of those.
>
> pt
>
>
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From dudepron at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 14:40:34 2009
From: dudepron at gmail.com (Aaron)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:40:34 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Possible timing problems
In-Reply-To: <b7f636a60904140946s22a9b502gdf539b97bb61c437@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b7f636a60904140946s22a9b502gdf539b97bb61c437@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <480dad640904141140s1ed4ef5fu3a9574170c03e2c9@mail.gmail.com>

Why are you configured for internal and not line clocking?

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:46, james edwards
<lists.james.edwards at gmail.com>wrote:

> This is on the 3700 and a DS3 card. Looks like I am losing timing, which is
> derived from the line.
> I have searched on "clock change..." and have not pulled anything up at
> Cisco. I am not taking any errors.
> I wish there was a clock slip counter.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
>
>
> Apr 14 02:23:06.295 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
> up
> Apr 14 02:23:06:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
> Apr 14 02:23:07:  clock change removed for int ATM1/0
> Apr 14 02:23:08:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
> Apr 14 02:23:10.299 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
> down
> Apr 14 02:23:59:  clock change removed for int ATM1/0
> Apr 14 02:24:01.302 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
> up
> Apr 14 02:24:01:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
> Apr 14 02:24:03.302 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
> down
> Apr 14 02:26:46:  clock change removed for int ATM1/0
> Apr 14 02:26:48.318 MST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface ATM1/0, changed state to
> up
> Apr 14 02:26:49.318 MST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface
> ATM1/0, changed state to up
> Apr 14 02:53:59:  clock change done for int ATM1/0
>
>
> xxxxx_3700#sho controll | in clock
>  TX and RX clocks detected.
> Clock Source      INTERNAL (but the source of this clock is derived from
> LINE)
>
> Roswell_3700#sho controll atm1/0 | in error-free
> LCV error-free secs                     875335
> DS3: F/M-bit error-free secs            875342
> DS3: parity error-free secs             875335
> DS3: path parity error-free secs        875335
> T3/E3: excessive zeros error-free secs  875335
> DS3/E3: G.832 FEBE error-free secs      868416
> uncorrectable HEC error-free secs       875406
> xxxx_3700#
>
>
> --
> James H. Edwards
> Senior Network Systems Administrator
> Judicial Information Division
> jedwards at nmcourts.gov
> _______________________________________________
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From petelists at templin.org  Tue Apr 14 14:43:18 2009
From: petelists at templin.org (Pete Templin)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:43:18 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR OC3 Eng0 to Eng3
In-Reply-To: <480dad640904141138s76903cb0p7f93d20bf1de5733@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49E4A38E.2050601@templin.org> <200904141254.25427.lowen@pari.edu>
	<49E4CF93.2030306@templin.org>
	<480dad640904141138s76903cb0p7f93d20bf1de5733@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E4D946.2070505@templin.org>

Aaron wrote:
> The ends of each fiber should be treated independently as far as signal 
> strength. One side might indeed be stronger.

We changed a router card, and now we're seeing PSE on both ends.  If the 
E3 card is stronger, I can accept that we're overdriving the carrier's 
gear, causing issues to be seen at the other end, but if we follow the 
same logic shouldn't the card also _accept_ a stronger signal (and 
therefore not take PSE due to the wider margin)?

> On the E3 side, are the other ports plugged into a different system? I 
> think that version slaves off of port 0 for all the ports for clocking.

This is the only link in the card.  Problems were the same whether it 
was in port 0, port 1, or as currently in port 2.  I've also gotten an 
offlist response which showed me how to adjust the timing sources at the 
card level.

> PSE are not really an issue but are an annoyance.

We're seeing OSPFv3 issues that seem to coincide with times when the PSE 
rate is perhaps highest.  We're also seeing far more than the Cisco 
troubleshooting doc says is allowable, figure a million per day.

pt



From denyipanyany at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 15:50:46 2009
From: denyipanyany at gmail.com (Deny IP Any Any)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:50:46 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] failover stability of ASA 8.0 code
Message-ID: <c979a8a40904141250h2baf5f13y92f81e91100a6ac2@mail.gmail.com>

I'm looking for general real-world experiences of stability of a fail
over ASA cluster running 8.0.x code. At least in earlier 8.0 codes, we
ran into several failover-specific bugs, and am hoping things are
smoother now.

-- 
deny ip any any (4393649193 matches)

From tvarriale at comcast.net  Tue Apr 14 16:30:17 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:30:17 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] failover stability of ASA 8.0 code
References: <c979a8a40904141250h2baf5f13y92f81e91100a6ac2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <179C3A6094024824830413BC9B0A8429@flamdt01>

Working fine here on a lot of 8.0(3) boxes.

What code were you running and what problems did you have?

tv
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Subject: [c-nsp] failover stability of ASA 8.0 code


> I'm looking for general real-world experiences of stability of a fail
> over ASA cluster running 8.0.x code. At least in earlier 8.0 codes, we
> ran into several failover-specific bugs, and am hoping things are
> smoother now.
> 
> -- 
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From jason at lixfeld.ca  Tue Apr 14 18:22:03 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:22:03 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
Message-ID: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>

We have a box with the above specifications in production.  4  
interfaces are being used; 2 ATM, 2 GigE.

SLOT 0  (RP/LC 0 ): Route Processor
         Route Memory: MEM-GRP-512=
SLOT 2  (RP/LC 2 ): 4 port ATM Over SONET OC12c/STM-4c Multi Mode
         Processor Memory: MEM-GRP/LC-256=
         Packet Memory: MEM-LC1-PKT-256=
   L3 Engine: 2 - Backbone OC48 (2.5 Gbps)
SLOT 5  (RP/LC 5 ): 3 Port Gigabit Ethernet
         Processor Memory: MEM-GRP/LC-256=
         Packet Memory: MEM-LC1-PKT-256=
   L3 Engine: 2 - Backbone OC48 (2.5 Gbps)

For the life of us, we can't seem to get any more than 60Mbps  
sustained across the ATM testing with iperf, so we're just trying to  
figure out if the GSR just can't push any more than what it's doing or  
if there's something else afoot.

CPU doesn't seem to be running too hot:

CPU utilization for five seconds: 6%/0%; one minute: 20%; five  
minutes: 19%

Interface utilization seems reasonable.

bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int a2/0 load

       Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
  --------------------           ------------  ----------
  AT2/0                 Tx           48464000      14099
                        Rx          104808000      18012
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int a2/1 load

       Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
  --------------------           ------------  ----------
  AT2/1                 Tx           57581000      13032
                        Rx          116319000      14466
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int g5/0 load

       Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
  --------------------           ------------  ----------
  Gi5/0                 Tx           56851000       8981
                        Rx           35082000       7833
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int g5/1 load

       Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
  --------------------           ------------  ----------
  Gi5/1                 Tx          166072000      23424
                        Rx           70951000      19116
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#

Total Throughput: 656128000
Total PPS:	  118963
Average Size (B): 689.4

We've done our due diligence to ensure the bits of the network between  
the test machine and the ATM can support 100Mbps, so we're fairly  
confident that our test setup is adequate.  We can get ~97Mbps across  
other portions of the network (riding GE and 10GE on completely  
different devices).

Are we pushing this thing to it's limits taking into consideration the  
packet size vs. total throughput and total pps?

From john.douglas at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 18:31:51 2009
From: john.douglas at gmail.com (john douglas)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:31:51 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Catalyst 3750 RxQ2 buffers failures
Message-ID: <5c846eaf0904141531o60826084va6791315c1b5de70@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I have a variety of Catalyst 29xx/35xx/65xx/37xx switches and all my
3750 seem to be incrementing "RxQ2 buffers" failures in interface
buffers pools. If I am to understand correctly public buffer pools
will be used as a fallback so there is no performance hit and I do not
need to concern myself with this counter incrementing .... but just
wondering since this seems to happen on the 3 x 3750 we have and
nothing else if anyone has any ideas why  ?

Eg
Switch#sh buf | b RxQ2
RxQ2 buffers, 2040 bytes (total 128, permanent 128):
     1 in free list (0 min, 128 max allowed)
     17212436 hits, 134472 fallbacks, 0 trims, 0 created
     134472 failures (0 no memory)


-jd

From rgolodner at infratection.com  Tue Apr 14 19:31:37 2009
From: rgolodner at infratection.com (Richard Golodner)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:31:37 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Possible timing problems
In-Reply-To: <b7f636a60904140946s22a9b502gdf539b97bb61c437@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b7f636a60904140946s22a9b502gdf539b97bb61c437@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004901c9bd59$2875af30$79610d90$@com>

	James said today:
> Clock Source      INTERNAL (but the source of this clock is derived from
LINE)

Change this config so that timing is supplied by line (telco) rather than
INTERNAL.
Richard 



From bdikici at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 19:45:57 2009
From: bdikici at gmail.com (Burak Dikici)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:45:57 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP
Message-ID: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>

   Hello ,

  I have got one internet router running BGP , and this router has got
connections with two different ISPs. One of the ISP is local for my country
and the other ISP's location is outside of my country. I want to classify
geographical traffic with BGP. For example , local traffic to my country
will go through ISP-1 (local ISP) , outside traffic to my country will go
through ISP-2 (outside of my country ISP). What i have to do to achieve that
kind of configuration ? If i have to use AS path filter , how can i find the
local ISP AS path numbers and how can i configure AS path filter for this
request ? Is that enough using the as-path filter just for the national ISP
or should i use it for international ISP also ?

  If i use AS-path filter for both ISP connections , what will happen to
redundancy ? I mean , for example i filter national AS numbers at the
international ISP connection and deny them. Secondly , i filter national AS
numbers at the national ISP connection , permit them and the other AS
numbers will be denied. In this situation , what will happen if the local
ISP connection goes down ? Because of filtering of the national AS numbers
at the international ISP connection , the BGP table doesn't take any updates
from the local AS numbers. I hope , i could explain the situation correctly.


Kind Regards...

Burak Dikici

From walter.keen at RainierConnect.net  Tue Apr 14 19:53:24 2009
From: walter.keen at RainierConnect.net (Walter Keen)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:53:24 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP
In-Reply-To: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E521F4.4000705@rainierconnect.net>

If you are not advertising any space, I would imagine an AS path filter
on ISP-1 (limited to 1 or 2 hops, if that works for you) and no AS path
filter on ISP-2 would do the trick.  You would want a floating static
default route(s) for outbound traffic redundancy.

Now, if you are advertising space, as path prepending may be one way to
go as far as inbound traffic goes, but it gets messy in a situation like
this one.  If you prepend your AS number too many times out ISP1, then
traffic you may have wanted to come in ISP1 may see ISP2 as a closer
route (less AS hops).

Burak Dikici wrote:
>    Hello ,
>
>   I have got one internet router running BGP , and this router has got
> connections with two different ISPs. One of the ISP is local for my country
> and the other ISP's location is outside of my country. I want to classify
> geographical traffic with BGP. For example , local traffic to my country
> will go through ISP-1 (local ISP) , outside traffic to my country will go
> through ISP-2 (outside of my country ISP). What i have to do to achieve that
> kind of configuration ? If i have to use AS path filter , how can i find the
> local ISP AS path numbers and how can i configure AS path filter for this
> request ? Is that enough using the as-path filter just for the national ISP
> or should i use it for international ISP also ?
>
>   If i use AS-path filter for both ISP connections , what will happen to
> redundancy ? I mean , for example i filter national AS numbers at the
> international ISP connection and deny them. Secondly , i filter national AS
> numbers at the national ISP connection , permit them and the other AS
> numbers will be denied. In this situation , what will happen if the local
> ISP connection goes down ? Because of filtering of the national AS numbers
> at the international ISP connection , the BGP table doesn't take any updates
> from the local AS numbers. I hope , i could explain the situation correctly.
>
>
> Kind Regards...
>
> Burak Dikici
> _______________________________________________
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From paul.stainton at talktalk.net  Tue Apr 14 19:23:22 2009
From: paul.stainton at talktalk.net (Paul Stainton)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:23:22 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] 3550 as a internet distribution switch
Message-ID: <000001c9bd58$00e9e4f0$0514a8c0@support>

Hi,

 

Is this possible?

 

I want to configure a 3550 as follows,

 

1 port as a default gateway,  this will be connected to a internet  router.
e.g.  a WAN connection

 

Any number of other the other ports to be assigned an IP address that can be
connected to a cable NAT Router and all outbound traffic be sent to the
default gateway of the 3350

 

e.g.

 

Vlan 2  WAN connection to the internet assigned an IP address of the
internet router

 

Vlan 3, assign IP address 192.168.1.1  255.255.255.0, therefore a cable NAT
router can be connected to this Vlan which could have the IP address
192.168.1.2 Default Gateway 192.168.1.1

All internet traffic will then be directed from the cable Nat router to
192.168.1.2, to 19.168.1.1 on Vlan 3 which in turn will forward the internet
traffic to vlan 2 the WAN connection and out to the internet router

 

Vlan 4 assign IP address 192.168.2.1 255.25.255.0 then as above except for
the 192.168.2 subnet

 

Vlan 5 assign IP address 192.168.3.1 etc, etc

 

Have tried several ways but can never get out on the internet.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Regards

Paul Stainton


From ml at t-b-o-h.net  Tue Apr 14 19:07:56 2009
From: ml at t-b-o-h.net (Tuc at T-B-O-H)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:07:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] %SYS-2-INTSCHED: 'suspend' at level 3 -Process= "Virtual
	Exec"
Message-ID: <200904142307.n3EN7uos036699@vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com>

Hi,

	I'm suddenly getting :

Apr 14 17:27:21 EDT: %SYS-2-INTSCHED: 'suspend' at level 3 -Process= "Virtual Exec", ipl= 3, pid= 136 -Traceback= 0x6049A4C4 0x605D94CC 0x605A55C4 0x625BFDD0 0x60E67FD0 0x60E68DA8 0x625BFD84 0x60E62804 0x60E3D8E0 0x604DAD28 0x604F6FB4 0x60598000 0x60597FE4


	I'd like to say I didn't make any changes, but I've slowly been
tearing apart my config because one of my upstreams changed how things
work so now I'm basically running bare bones here. I have IPSLA running but
it isn't used for routing decisions.

	Any idea where to start looking?

		Thanks, Tuc

From mksmith at adhost.com  Tue Apr 14 20:10:30 2009
From: mksmith at adhost.com (Michael K. Smith - Adhost)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:10:30 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] 3550 as a internet distribution switch
In-Reply-To: <000001c9bd58$00e9e4f0$0514a8c0@support>
References: <000001c9bd58$00e9e4f0$0514a8c0@support>
Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605D17C65@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>

Hello Paul:

Hi,
Is this possible?

I want to configure a 3550 as follows,

1 port as a default gateway,  this will be connected to a internet
router.
e.g.  a WAN connection

Any number of other the other ports to be assigned an IP address that
can be
connected to a cable NAT Router and all outbound traffic be sent to the
default gateway of the 3350

<snip>
[Michael K. Smith - Adhost] 

It doesn't appear that NAT is supported on the 3550, so you would have
to use valid IP's on all of your Layer 3 connections for this to work.

See:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps646/products_configura
tion_guide_chapter09186a00801cdf37.html

Regards,

Mike

From bdikici at gmail.com  Tue Apr 14 20:15:55 2009
From: bdikici at gmail.com (Burak Dikici)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:15:55 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP
In-Reply-To: <49E521F4.4000705@rainierconnect.net>
References: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E521F4.4000705@rainierconnect.net>
Message-ID: <d9281f5c0904141715l2cffd3a7pfefdf4c24218a388@mail.gmail.com>

  By the way i wonder , how can it be done symmetrical traffic flow in this
scenario ?   Local traffic goes from local ISP and the return traffic comes
back through local ISP.   Outside of the country traffic goes from
international IPS and the return traffic comes back through internaional
ISP.  I don't want to cause any asymmetrical traffic flow between different
ISPs and my site.





On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Walter Keen <walter.keen at rainierconnect.net
> wrote:

> If you are not advertising any space, I would imagine an AS path filter
> on ISP-1 (limited to 1 or 2 hops, if that works for you) and no AS path
> filter on ISP-2 would do the trick.  You would want a floating static
> default route(s) for outbound traffic redundancy.
>
> Now, if you are advertising space, as path prepending may be one way to
> go as far as inbound traffic goes, but it gets messy in a situation like
> this one.  If you prepend your AS number too many times out ISP1, then
> traffic you may have wanted to come in ISP1 may see ISP2 as a closer
> route (less AS hops).
>
> Burak Dikici wrote:
> >    Hello ,
> >
> >   I have got one internet router running BGP , and this router has got
> > connections with two different ISPs. One of the ISP is local for my
> country
> > and the other ISP's location is outside of my country. I want to classify
> > geographical traffic with BGP. For example , local traffic to my country
> > will go through ISP-1 (local ISP) , outside traffic to my country will go
> > through ISP-2 (outside of my country ISP). What i have to do to achieve
> that
> > kind of configuration ? If i have to use AS path filter , how can i find
> the
> > local ISP AS path numbers and how can i configure AS path filter for this
> > request ? Is that enough using the as-path filter just for the national
> ISP
> > or should i use it for international ISP also ?
> >
> >   If i use AS-path filter for both ISP connections , what will happen to
> > redundancy ? I mean , for example i filter national AS numbers at the
> > international ISP connection and deny them. Secondly , i filter national
> AS
> > numbers at the national ISP connection , permit them and the other AS
> > numbers will be denied. In this situation , what will happen if the local
> > ISP connection goes down ? Because of filtering of the national AS
> numbers
> > at the international ISP connection , the BGP table doesn't take any
> updates
> > from the local AS numbers. I hope , i could explain the situation
> correctly.
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards...
> >
> > Burak Dikici
> > _______________________________________________
> > cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
> >
>
>

From hiromasa.sekiguchi at ctc-g.co.jp  Tue Apr 14 22:54:57 2009
From: hiromasa.sekiguchi at ctc-g.co.jp (Hiromasa Sekiguchi)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:54:57 +0900
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6748-SFP temperature sensor
Message-ID: <49E54C81.2090909@ctc-g.co.jp>

Hi all,

Does WS-X6748-SFP have temperature sensor?

Can we confirm it on cisco web site?

Regards,
Hiromasa

From engel.labiro at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 01:10:17 2009
From: engel.labiro at gmail.com (Engelhard Labiro)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:10:17 +0900
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6748-SFP temperature sensor
In-Reply-To: <49E54C81.2090909@ctc-g.co.jp>
References: <49E54C81.2090909@ctc-g.co.jp>
Message-ID: <74b0c3330904142210o55b7abbfna3ab101ac5c61ac6@mail.gmail.com>

Couldn`t find doco on cisco that state it has a temp.sensor..but
"sh env" of the module indicates that the chassis is able to show the
temp. of the card.

sh module
Mod Ports Card Type                              Mode
--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
 1    8  CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC            WS-X6708-10GE
 2    8  CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC            WS-X6708-10GE
 3   48  CEF720 48 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6748-SFP
 4   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX
 5    2  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)         WS-SUP720-3B

xxxxx>sh environment temperature module 3
 module 3 outlet temperature: 50C
 module 3 inlet temperature: 36C
 module 3 device-1 temperature: 36C
 module 3 device-2 temperature: 46C

2009/4/15 Hiromasa Sekiguchi <hiromasa.sekiguchi at ctc-g.co.jp>:
> Hi all,
>
> Does WS-X6748-SFP have temperature sensor?
>
> Can we confirm it on cisco web site?
>
> Regards,
> Hiromasa
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Moens at carrier2carrier.com  Wed Apr 15 02:28:07 2009
From: Moens at carrier2carrier.com (Martin Moens)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:28:07 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] WS-X6748-SFP temperature sensor
In-Reply-To: <74b0c3330904142210o55b7abbfna3ab101ac5c61ac6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42F0C766A9A8DB47B5E86CA64738DC8B0190610F@bilbo.bdhz.c2c.local>

Do a snmpwalk on 1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.13.1.3.1, this gives info on all the temp
sensors in the box.

Martin


On Wednesday, 15 April, 2009 07:10 Engelhard Labiro <> wrote:

> Couldn`t find doco on cisco that state it has a temp.sensor..but
> "sh env" of the module indicates that the chassis is able to show the
> temp. of the card.
> 
> sh module
> Mod Ports Card Type                              Mode
> --- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
>  1    8  CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC            WS-X6708-10GE
>  2    8  CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC            WS-X6708-10GE
>  3   48  CEF720 48 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6748-SFP
>  4   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX
>  5    2  Supervisor Engine 720 (Active)         WS-SUP720-3B
> 
> xxxxx>sh environment temperature module 3
>  module 3 outlet temperature: 50C
>  module 3 inlet temperature: 36C
>  module 3 device-1 temperature: 36C
>  module 3 device-2 temperature: 46C
> 
> 2009/4/15 Hiromasa Sekiguchi <hiromasa.sekiguchi at ctc-g.co.jp>:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does WS-X6748-SFP have temperature sensor?
>> 
>> Can we confirm it on cisco web site?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hiromasa
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list ?cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>> 
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From wyatt.eliasson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 02:47:15 2009
From: wyatt.eliasson at gmail.com (Wyatt Mattias Gyllenvarg)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 08:47:15 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400-24FS 12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS with no MLS QOS
	commands
Message-ID: <994752fe0904142347n65ed4960ife3125d3eb29fce9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all!

I've been racking my brain over this for a day now.

I have a multicast stream that I have marked with a DSCP value close
at the core of my net.
I subscribe too it in an ME3400-24FS (12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS).

The problem is that the switch, contrary too documentation, has no
"mls qos" commands.
Neither global nor interface commands. I haven't found any reference
too this "change" anywhere.

So, how do I get it too trust the DSCP values it on the uplink port so
I can reserve bandwidth for it on the outgoing port.

Best regards
Mattias Gyllenvarg

From wyatt.eliasson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 04:02:15 2009
From: wyatt.eliasson at gmail.com (Wyatt Mattias Gyllenvarg)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:02:15 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400-24FS 12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS with no MLS QOS
	commands
In-Reply-To: <200904150752.n3F7qPgC018835@ns.gastabud.com>
References: <994752fe0904142347n65ed4960ife3125d3eb29fce9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200904150752.n3F7qPgC018835@ns.gastabud.com>
Message-ID: <994752fe0904150102x762f562ep3d34327fb20fa3b1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Claes

I figured that something like that would work, but it seems a like a
stretch compared too "mls qos trust".
I will run a version of your config for the time being.

Thanks
Mattias Gyllenvarg

2009/4/15 Claes Jansson <claes at gastabud.com>:
> Hi Mattias!
>
> I've been in the same position as you are now :-) But I finally solved it with the following config... The key is the input service-policy on the uplink interface it seems...
>
> !
> class-map match-any video
>  match ip dscp af41
> class-map match-any voice
>  match ip dscp ef
> !
> policy-map uplink-in
>  class video
>  set dscp af41
>  class voice
>  set dscp ef
> !
> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
>  port-type nni
>  switchport mode trunk
>  service-policy input uplink-in
> !
>
> And then for the customer interfaces i attach a policy-map that looks like this...
>
> // Shaping customer internet trafic at 10Mbit/s
> !
> policy-map 10out
>  class voice
>    priority
>    police cir 3000000
>  class video
>    shape average 50000000
>  class class-default
>    shape average 10000000
> !
>
> Best regards.
>
>        //Claes Jansson
>
> At 08:47 2009-04-15, you wrote:
>>Hi all!
>>
>>I've been racking my brain over this for a day now.
>>
>>I have a multicast stream that I have marked with a DSCP value close
>>at the core of my net.
>>I subscribe too it in an ME3400-24FS (12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS).
>>
>>The problem is that the switch, contrary too documentation, has no
>>"mls qos" commands.
>>Neither global nor interface commands. I haven't found any reference
>>too this "change" anywhere.
>>
>>So, how do I get it too trust the DSCP values it on the uplink port so
>>I can reserve bandwidth for it on the outgoing port.
>>
>>Best regards
>>Mattias Gyllenvarg
>>_______________________________________________
>>cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>
>

From achatz at forthnet.gr  Wed Apr 15 04:03:36 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:03:36 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400-24FS 12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS with no MLS QOS
 commands
In-Reply-To: <994752fe0904142347n65ed4960ife3125d3eb29fce9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <994752fe0904142347n65ed4960ife3125d3eb29fce9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E594D8.2040808@forthnet.gr>

Mattias,

I believe the default mode is to not change the CoS/DSCP of packets, so you shouldn't have 
any problem.
Also, you can use a policy-map under the interface if you want to modify the above.


-- 
Tassos


Wyatt Mattias Gyllenvarg wrote on 15/04/2009 09:47:
> Hi all!
> 
> I've been racking my brain over this for a day now.
> 
> I have a multicast stream that I have marked with a DSCP value close
> at the core of my net.
> I subscribe too it in an ME3400-24FS (12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS).
> 
> The problem is that the switch, contrary too documentation, has no
> "mls qos" commands.
> Neither global nor interface commands. I haven't found any reference
> too this "change" anywhere.
> 
> So, how do I get it too trust the DSCP values it on the uplink port so
> I can reserve bandwidth for it on the outgoing port.
> 
> Best regards
> Mattias Gyllenvarg
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From adrian.minta at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 05:36:31 2009
From: adrian.minta at gmail.com (Adrian Minta)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:36:31 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400 uRPF
Message-ID: <49E5AA9F.9010400@gmail.com>

According to "Cisco ME 3400 data sheet" http://tinyurl.com/yphgj5 the 
switch support uRPF with METROIPACCESS image, but I get the following error:
switch(config)#interface GigabitEthernet0/2
switch(config-if)#ip verify unicast reverse-path
% ip verify configuration not supported on interface Gi0/2
 - verification not supported by hardware

Does anyone knows the magic needed to make uRPF work on this switch ?

System image file is "flash:me340x-metroipaccess-mz.122-40.SE/me340x-metroipaccess-mz.122-40.SE.bin"
cisco ME-3400G-12CS-A (PowerPC405) processor (revision C0) with 118784K/12280K bytes of memory.

Interface GigabitEthernet0/2 is in routed mode (no switchport).

-- 
Best regards,
Adrian Minta



From johns.stanly at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 06:07:13 2009
From: johns.stanly at gmail.com (Stanly Johns)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:07:13 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
Message-ID: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

even after clearing the  vty lines they were still there. I was unable to
telnet to the router.

I had to restart the router to clear all the lines.

any clue what could be the reason ?

thanks.

Perimeter#sh users
Line User Host(s) Idle Location
* 0 con 0 idle 00:00:00
322 vty 0 idle 5w1d 190.42.12.218
323 vty 1 idle 5w0d
client-201.230.86.15.speedy.net.pe
324 vty 2 idle 3w5d 151.56.21.165
325 vty 3 idle 2w4d
client-190.40.212.198.speedy.net.pe
326 vty 4 idle 1w5d 84.36.28.19

Interface User Mode Idle Peer Address

Perimeter#
Perimeter#clear line vty 2
[confirm]
[OK]
Perimeter#
Perimeter#sh users
Line User Host(s) Idle Location
* 0 con 0 idle 00:00:00
322 vty 0 idle 5w1d 190.42.12.218
323 vty 1 idle 5w0d
client-201.230.86.15.speedy.net.pe
324 vty 2 idle 3w5d 151.56.21.165
325 vty 3 idle 2w4d
client-190.40.212.198.speedy.net.pe
326 vty 4 idle 1w5d 84.36.28.19

Interface User Mode Idle Peer Address

line con 0
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
password 7

login
!
scheduler allocate 20000 1000
!
end

Perimeter#

From achatz at forthnet.gr  Wed Apr 15 06:50:24 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:50:24 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400 uRPF
In-Reply-To: <49E5AA9F.9010400@gmail.com>
References: <49E5AA9F.9010400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E5BBF0.60804@forthnet.gr>


uRPF is for VRFs in the ME-3400 (strange, isn't it?)

-- 
Tassos

Adrian Minta wrote on 15/04/2009 12:36:
> According to "Cisco ME 3400 data sheet" http://tinyurl.com/yphgj5 the 
> switch support uRPF with METROIPACCESS image, but I get the following 
> error:
> switch(config)#interface GigabitEthernet0/2
> switch(config-if)#ip verify unicast reverse-path
> % ip verify configuration not supported on interface Gi0/2
> - verification not supported by hardware
> 
> Does anyone knows the magic needed to make uRPF work on this switch ?
> 
> System image file is 
> "flash:me340x-metroipaccess-mz.122-40.SE/me340x-metroipaccess-mz.122-40.SE.bin" 
> 
> cisco ME-3400G-12CS-A (PowerPC405) processor (revision C0) with 
> 118784K/12280K bytes of memory.
> 
> Interface GigabitEthernet0/2 is in routed mode (no switchport).
> 


From wyatt.eliasson at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 08:09:12 2009
From: wyatt.eliasson at gmail.com (Wyatt Mattias Gyllenvarg)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:09:12 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400-24FS 12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS with no MLS QOS
	commands
In-Reply-To: <49E594D8.2040808@forthnet.gr>
References: <994752fe0904142347n65ed4960ife3125d3eb29fce9@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E594D8.2040808@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <994752fe0904150509wc5008d6oa850b35029e39a35@mail.gmail.com>

Hey All

Thanks for your answers.

Here is the end result.

The equivalent config for "mls qos trust dscp" on a physical interface
on a ME3400 is.

policy-map uplink
 class class-default
  set dscp dscp

interface gix/y
 service-policy input uplink

User friendly clue was:

me3400(config-pmap-c)#set dscp ?
  <snip>
  dscp        Set packet dscp from dscp


Enjoy
Mattias Gyllenvarg


2009/4/15 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou <achatz at forthnet.gr>:
> Mattias,
>
> I believe the default mode is to not change the CoS/DSCP of packets, so you
> shouldn't have any problem.
> Also, you can use a policy-map under the interface if you want to modify the
> above.
>
>
> --
> Tassos
>
>
> Wyatt Mattias Gyllenvarg wrote on 15/04/2009 09:47:
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've been racking my brain over this for a day now.
>>
>> I have a multicast stream that I have marked with a DSCP value close
>> at the core of my net.
>> I subscribe too it in an ME3400-24FS (12.2(46)SE METROIPACCESS).
>>
>> The problem is that the switch, contrary too documentation, has no
>> "mls qos" commands.
>> Neither global nor interface commands. I haven't found any reference
>> too this "change" anywhere.
>>
>> So, how do I get it too trust the DSCP values it on the uplink port so
>> I can reserve bandwidth for it on the outgoing port.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Mattias Gyllenvarg
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From wp at null0.nl  Wed Apr 15 09:26:44 2009
From: wp at null0.nl (Wouter Prins)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:26:44 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b5da8bca0904150626qf80599eyc8c5c7c42bf5b4d8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stanly,

You have to use 'disconnect x' to clear a vty terminal, 'clear x' is for
async lines.

2009/4/15 Stanly Johns <johns.stanly at gmail.com>

> Hi there,
>
> even after clearing the  vty lines they were still there. I was unable to
> telnet to the router.
>
> I had to restart the router to clear all the lines.
>
> any clue what could be the reason ?
>
> thanks.
>
> Perimeter#sh users
> Line User Host(s) Idle Location
> * 0 con 0 idle 00:00:00
> 322 vty 0 idle 5w1d 190.42.12.218
> 323 vty 1 idle 5w0d
> client-201.230.86.15.speedy.net.pe
> 324 vty 2 idle 3w5d 151.56.21.165
> 325 vty 3 idle 2w4d
> client-190.40.212.198.speedy.net.pe
> 326 vty 4 idle 1w5d 84.36.28.19
>
> Interface User Mode Idle Peer Address
>
> Perimeter#
> Perimeter#clear line vty 2
> [confirm]
> [OK]
> Perimeter#
> Perimeter#sh users
> Line User Host(s) Idle Location
> * 0 con 0 idle 00:00:00
> 322 vty 0 idle 5w1d 190.42.12.218
> 323 vty 1 idle 5w0d
> client-201.230.86.15.speedy.net.pe
> 324 vty 2 idle 3w5d 151.56.21.165
> 325 vty 3 idle 2w4d
> client-190.40.212.198.speedy.net.pe
> 326 vty 4 idle 1w5d 84.36.28.19
>
> Interface User Mode Idle Peer Address
>
> line con 0
> stopbits 1
> line aux 0
> stopbits 1
> line vty 0 4
> password 7
>
> login
> !
> scheduler allocate 20000 1000
> !
> end
>
> Perimeter#
> _______________________________________________
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>



-- 
Wouter Prins
wp at null0.nl
0x301FA912

From networkstuff.training at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 09:34:00 2009
From: networkstuff.training at gmail.com (Swati Sharma)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:04:00 +0530
Subject: [c-nsp] rpr-plus switchover
In-Reply-To: <20090414060746.GK290@greenie.muc.de>
References: <8a93d4b30904132217p6d41d9bct139e3e865d5e09a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090414060746.GK290@greenie.muc.de>
Message-ID: <8a93d4b30904150634h64754234ra5d5c345c362f911@mail.gmail.com>

it's rapid pvst, should not take time.....

Regards,



On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gert Doering <gert at greenie.muc.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:47:02AM +0530, Swati Sharma wrote:
> > I am testing rpr-plus and could see links up in less then 1 sec but ping
> > resume only after 47 sec.... I understand with rpr-plus we get more then
> 30
> > sec of ping drop, still when all links are up and adj is up, why there is
> a
> > ping drop?
>
> Spanning-Tree?
>
> gert
> --
> USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!
>                                                           //
> www.muc.de/~gert/
> Gert Doering - Munich, Germany
> gert at greenie.muc.de
> fax: +49-89-35655025
> gert at net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
>

From petelists at templin.org  Wed Apr 15 10:04:30 2009
From: petelists at templin.org (Pete Templin)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:04:30 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <49E5E96E.4010508@templin.org>

Jason Lixfeld wrote:

> CPU doesn't seem to be running too hot:
> 
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 6%/0%; one minute: 20%; five minutes: 19%

That's probably your xRP CPU.  You should check the LC CPU too.  I 
wouldn't suspect they'll be the root of the issue, but worth checking 
early in your troubleshooting:

core1-dlls#execute-on ?
   all      All slots
   slot     Command is executed on slot(s) in this chassis
   standby  Command is executed on standby RP

core1-dlls#execute-on all ?
   LINE  Commmand to be executed on another slot

core1-dlls#execute-on all sh proc c s | e 0.0.%
========= Line Card (Slot 4) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 17%; five minutes: 17%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process

========= Line Card (Slot 6) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 16%/0%; one minute: 17%; five minutes: 17%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   74    76749624  21406230       3585 15.80% 15.91% 16.13%   0 TAG 
Stats Backgr

========= Line Card (Slot 9) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 10%/0%; one minute: 8%; five minutes: 8%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   87  2118639296  11728520     180642 10.55%  8.53%  8.50%   0 TAG 
Stats Backgr

========= Line Card (Slot 11) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 38%/0%; one minute: 17%; five minutes: 16%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   81  3951889484  21237909     186078 37.51% 16.39% 15.87%   0 TAG 
Stats Backgr

========= Line Card (Slot 12) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 17%; five minutes: 18%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process

========= Line Card (Slot 15) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 28%/0%; one minute: 18%; five minutes: 17%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   73  4065388572  21247058     191339 27.60% 16.47% 15.95%   0 TAG 
Stats Backgr

core1-dlls#

pt


From jason at lixfeld.ca  Wed Apr 15 10:11:31 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:11:31 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <49E5E96E.4010508@templin.org>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<49E5E96E.4010508@templin.org>
Message-ID: <0E61DBC7-BBE6-4B50-9D92-538F0929EB82@lixfeld.ca>


On 15-Apr-09, at 10:04 AM, Pete Templin wrote:

> Jason Lixfeld wrote:
>
>> CPU doesn't seem to be running too hot:
>> CPU utilization for five seconds: 6%/0%; one minute: 20%; five  
>> minutes: 19%
>
> That's probably your xRP CPU.  You should check the LC CPU too.  I  
> wouldn't suspect they'll be the root of the issue, but worth  
> checking early in your troubleshooting:

Indeed, that was the output from the GRP-B.  LC CPUs are all low:

bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#execute-on all show proc cpu | e  
0.00%__0.00%__0.00%
========= Line Card (Slot 2) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes:  
1%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
    6    63893752   3776360      16919  0.00%  0.25%  0.22%   0 Check  
heaps
   14     6394916    533472      11987  0.00%  0.11%  0.11%   0 TAG  
Stats Backgr
   28      867620  43608352         19  0.00%  0.03%  0.00%   0 Per- 
Second Jobs
   39     6240812    523012      11932  0.23%  0.02%  0.00%   0 Per- 
minute Jobs
   53    24959116  33061010        754  0.00%  0.07%  0.06%   0 LC COS  
STAT
   60   146006316    776594     188012  0.00%  0.95%  0.52%   0 TBM  
sanity proce
   74    14368544 170371373         84  0.00%  0.04%  0.04%   0 CEF LC  
IPC Backg

========= Line Card (Slot 5) =========

CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes:  
1%
  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
    6    63893584   3776593      16918  0.00%  0.19%  0.21%   0 Check  
heaps
   14     6426820    533474      12047  0.00%  0.11%  0.11%   0 TAG  
Stats Backgr
   28     2928124  34305135         85  0.00%  0.03%  0.05%   0 Per- 
Second Jobs
   55    24968788  33048944        755  0.15%  0.08%  0.06%   0 LC COS  
STAT
   63    80102964 184468966        434  0.07%  0.08%  0.11%   0 Queue  
Mgr
   64   144607816    776602     186212  0.00%  0.40%  0.43%   0 TBM  
sanity proce
   78    14642052 170365691         85  0.07%  0.01%  0.02%   0 CEF LC  
IPC Backg

bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#


From john at johnlange.ca  Wed Apr 15 10:10:11 2009
From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:10:11 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T
Message-ID: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>

I'm looking for some configuration examples for a Cisco 871w in a
dual-wan environment. Physically the box only has one of the ports
labelled for a WAN port but is it possible to configure one of the other
ports as another external interface? Internally they all just show up as
FastEthernet ports 0-4.

One port would be DSL with PPPOE and the other would be simple DHCP
(cable modem).

Version:
Cisco IOS Software, C870 Software (C870-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version
12.4(24)T

Regards,
-- 
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca


From Steven.Glogger at swisscom.com  Wed Apr 15 10:19:51 2009
From: Steven.Glogger at swisscom.com (Steven.Glogger at swisscom.com)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:19:51 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T
In-Reply-To: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>
References: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>
Message-ID: <1FC8A0BAFBBD9749BB1F06010D23C8A5869959FC@sg000035.corproot.net>

did you tried to use vlans? 
afaik those 870series router allows up to 5 vlans to be configured.

fa4 can be (ip-)addressed directly, afaik. 

-steven 

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Lange
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 4:10 PM
To: Cisco NSP
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T

I'm looking for some configuration examples for a Cisco 871w in a dual-wan environment. Physically the box only has one of the ports labelled for a WAN port but is it possible to configure one of the other ports as another external interface? Internally they all just show up as FastEthernet ports 0-4.

One port would be DSL with PPPOE and the other would be simple DHCP (cable modem).

Version:
Cisco IOS Software, C870 Software (C870-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(24)T

Regards,
--
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca

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From synack at live.com  Wed Apr 15 10:24:01 2009
From: synack at live.com (Darin Herteen)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:24:01 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Using Cisco 3825 as Firewall Replacement
Message-ID: <BLU129-W199FBFD7B89F6751CC9478AE7D0@phx.gbl>


I have a customer who's firewall recently bricked and is unusable. This
device had previously served as a VPN to their LAN from the outside
world, restricted access between internal VLAN's, and provided NAT for
internal addresses to reach the internet. They happened to have a Cisco
3825 laying around and I've been attempting to get this router
configured to duplicate the functionality of the now deceased firewall.

The customer is requesting the following setup:

VLAN 2 must not have internet access or access to VLAN 41
VLAN 42 must have internet access but no access to VLAN 41
VLAN 41 must have internet access and allowed access to VLAN's 2 and 42


My
intent has been to use Reflexive Access Control List(s) to allow
traffic originating from VLAN 41 into VLAN 2 & 42 and back. But
numerous configuration attempts seem to break the NAT for VLAN 41 &
42, but according to customer internal segmentation of VLAN's appeared
to work as requested but have since removed the RACL to restore connectivity.

The 3825 is currently configured as follows:

interface GigabitEthernet0/0.2
 encapsulation dot1Q 2
 ip address 192.168.15.254 255.255.240.0
 no cdp enable

interface GigabitEthernet0/0.41
 encapsulation dot1Q 41
 ip address 192.168.31.254 255.255.240.0
 ip nat inside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 no cdp enable

interface GigabitEthernet0/0.42
 encapsulation dot1Q 42
 ip address 192.168.47.254 255.255.240.0
 ip nat inside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 no cdp enable

interface GigabitEthernet0/1.30
 encapsulation dot1Q 30
 ip address x.x.x.137 255.255.255.248
 ip nat outside
 ip virtual-reassembly
 no cdp enable
 crypto map SDM_CMAP_1

ip nat inside source route-map SDM_RMAP_1 interface GigabitEthernet0/1.30 overload

route-map SDM_RMAP_1 permit 1
 match ip address 100

access-list 100 remark SDM_ACL Category=2
access-list 100 deny   ip 192.168.32.0 0.0.15.255 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.15
access-list 100 deny   ip 192.168.16.0 0.0.15.255 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.15
access-list 100 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.15.255 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.15
access-list 100 deny   ip any 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.15
access-list 100 permit ip 192.168.16.0 0.0.15.255 any
access-list 100 permit ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.15.255 any

The 3825 is running the following IOS:

(C3825-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version 12.4(23)


Does anybody have any recommendations or advice to offer regarding this setup and whether or not it can be accomplished.

Thanks in advance,

Darin Herteen


_________________________________________________________________
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http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009

From luan at netcraftsmen.net  Wed Apr 15 10:24:07 2009
From: luan at netcraftsmen.net (Luan Nguyen)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:24:07 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T
In-Reply-To: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>
References: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>
Message-ID: <00a001c9bdd5$d653f540$82fbdfc0$@net>

You could put Fa0 into a VLAN and use that for the cable modem connection.
There's no option for "no switchport" and turn it into a layer 3 interface.

Regards,

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Chesapeake NetCraftsmen, LLC.
[Web] http://www.netcraftsmen.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Lange
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:10 AM
To: Cisco NSP
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T

I'm looking for some configuration examples for a Cisco 871w in a
dual-wan environment. Physically the box only has one of the ports
labelled for a WAN port but is it possible to configure one of the other
ports as another external interface? Internally they all just show up as
FastEthernet ports 0-4.

One port would be DSL with PPPOE and the other would be simple DHCP
(cable modem).

Version:
Cisco IOS Software, C870 Software (C870-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version
12.4(24)T

Regards,
-- 
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca

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From jeff at ocjtech.us  Wed Apr 15 10:35:01 2009
From: jeff at ocjtech.us (Jeffrey Ollie)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:35:01 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Using Cisco 3825 as Firewall Replacement
In-Reply-To: <BLU129-W199FBFD7B89F6751CC9478AE7D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU129-W199FBFD7B89F6751CC9478AE7D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <935ead450904150735k21fe994fqe7e2670c2624ee45@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Darin Herteen <synack at live.com> wrote:
>
> I have a customer who's firewall recently bricked and is unusable. This
> device had previously served as a VPN to their LAN from the outside
> world, restricted access between internal VLAN's, and provided NAT for
> internal addresses to reach the internet. They happened to have a Cisco
> 3825 laying around and I've been attempting to get this router
> configured to duplicate the functionality of the now deceased firewall.
> [...]
> Does anybody have any recommendations or advice to offer regarding this setup and whether or not it can be accomplished.

The 3825 is a fairly nice router, but it can't handle a lot of
throughput.  I don't recall the exact specs (and can't find on a quick
search), but I think that it can only handle <100Mb/s.  That seems
kinda low but I think it wasn't really designed as a packet pusher,
but instead is designed as a platform for services like VoIP etc.
It'll can probably be configured to do what you want, but I'm sure
you'll be disappointed with the performance, especially for LAN->LAN
traffic.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

From dan at beanfield.com  Wed Apr 15 09:49:18 2009
From: dan at beanfield.com (Dan Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:49:18 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] ME3400 uRPF
In-Reply-To: <49E5AA9F.9010400@gmail.com>
References: <49E5AA9F.9010400@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90376FE6-12CC-453D-A144-2CE65B912884@beanfield.com>

It doesn't.

I so wish it did, but no dice.




On 15-Apr-09, at 5:36 AM, Adrian Minta wrote:

> According to "Cisco ME 3400 data sheet" http://tinyurl.com/yphgj5  
> the switch support uRPF with METROIPACCESS image, but I get the  
> following error:
> switch(config)#interface GigabitEthernet0/2
> switch(config-if)#ip verify unicast reverse-path
> % ip verify configuration not supported on interface Gi0/2
> - verification not supported by hardware
>
> Does anyone knows the magic needed to make uRPF work on this switch ?
>
> System image file is "flash:me340x-metroipaccess-mz.122-40.SE/me340x- 
> metroipaccess-mz.122-40.SE.bin"
> cisco ME-3400G-12CS-A (PowerPC405) processor (revision C0) with  
> 118784K/12280K bytes of memory.
>
> Interface GigabitEthernet0/2 is in routed mode (no switchport).
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Adrian Minta
>
>
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From dudepron at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 10:52:23 2009
From: dudepron at gmail.com (Aaron)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:52:23 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <0E61DBC7-BBE6-4B50-9D92-538F0929EB82@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca> 
	<49E5E96E.4010508@templin.org>
	<0E61DBC7-BBE6-4B50-9D92-538F0929EB82@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <480dad640904150752p17fcb73foe15f1a4def68d244@mail.gmail.com>

whats the traffic flow? whats the input and the output?


On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:11, Jason Lixfeld <jason at lixfeld.ca> wrote:

>
> On 15-Apr-09, at 10:04 AM, Pete Templin wrote:
>
>  Jason Lixfeld wrote:
>>
>>  CPU doesn't seem to be running too hot:
>>> CPU utilization for five seconds: 6%/0%; one minute: 20%; five minutes:
>>> 19%
>>>
>>
>> That's probably your xRP CPU.  You should check the LC CPU too.  I
>> wouldn't suspect they'll be the root of the issue, but worth checking early
>> in your troubleshooting:
>>
>
> Indeed, that was the output from the GRP-B.  LC CPUs are all low:
>
> bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#execute-on all show proc cpu | e 0.00%__0.00%__0.00%
> ========= Line Card (Slot 2) =========
>
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes: 1%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
>   6    63893752   3776360      16919  0.00%  0.25%  0.22%   0 Check heaps
>  14     6394916    533472      11987  0.00%  0.11%  0.11%   0 TAG Stats
> Backgr
>  28      867620  43608352         19  0.00%  0.03%  0.00%   0 Per-Second
> Jobs
>  39     6240812    523012      11932  0.23%  0.02%  0.00%   0 Per-minute
> Jobs
>  53    24959116  33061010        754  0.00%  0.07%  0.06%   0 LC COS STAT
>  60   146006316    776594     188012  0.00%  0.95%  0.52%   0 TBM sanity
> proce
>  74    14368544 170371373         84  0.00%  0.04%  0.04%   0 CEF LC IPC
> Backg
>
> ========= Line Card (Slot 5) =========
>
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 0%/0%; one minute: 1%; five minutes: 1%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
>   6    63893584   3776593      16918  0.00%  0.19%  0.21%   0 Check heaps
>  14     6426820    533474      12047  0.00%  0.11%  0.11%   0 TAG Stats
> Backgr
>  28     2928124  34305135         85  0.00%  0.03%  0.05%   0 Per-Second
> Jobs
>  55    24968788  33048944        755  0.15%  0.08%  0.06%   0 LC COS STAT
>  63    80102964 184468966        434  0.07%  0.08%  0.11%   0 Queue Mgr
>  64   144607816    776602     186212  0.00%  0.40%  0.43%   0 TBM sanity
> proce
>  78    14642052 170365691         85  0.07%  0.01%  0.02%   0 CEF LC IPC
> Backg
>
> bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#
>
>
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From jason at lixfeld.ca  Wed Apr 15 10:58:01 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:58:01 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <480dad640904150752p17fcb73foe15f1a4def68d244@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<49E5E96E.4010508@templin.org>
	<0E61DBC7-BBE6-4B50-9D92-538F0929EB82@lixfeld.ca>
	<480dad640904150752p17fcb73foe15f1a4def68d244@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3D77300-F03E-4528-A447-596991B6082C@lixfeld.ca>


On 15-Apr-09, at 10:52 AM, Aaron wrote:

> whats the traffic flow? whats the input and the output?

bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int a2/0 load

      Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
AT2/0                 Tx           48464000      14099
                       Rx          104808000      18012
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int a2/1 load

      Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
AT2/1                 Tx           57581000      13032
                       Rx          116319000      14466
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int g5/0 load

      Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
Gi5/0                 Tx           56851000       8981
                       Rx           35082000       7833
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int g5/1 load

      Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
Gi5/1                 Tx          166072000      23424
                       Rx           70951000      19116
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#

So:

Total Throughput: 656128000
Total PPS:	  118963
Average Size (B): 689.4

From john at johnlange.ca  Wed Apr 15 11:02:00 2009
From: john at johnlange.ca (John Lange)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:02:00 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T
In-Reply-To: <00a001c9bdd5$d653f540$82fbdfc0$@net>
References: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>
	<00a001c9bdd5$d653f540$82fbdfc0$@net>
Message-ID: <1239807720.5644.10.camel@linux-2sym>

On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 10:24 -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote:
> You could put Fa0 into a VLAN and use that for the cable modem
> connection.

Ok, that's what I figured would work.

Any suggestions for how to make the dual-wan work in a type of fail-over
setup? All of my searching turns up plenty of hits for hardware failover
(dual-PIX setups) but I can't find any example configs for dual-wan on a
single device. I must be using the wrong search terms?

I'm fairly new to cisco and am not certified so any hints as to which
IOS commands/configs can be used to detect fail-over would be great.

Thanks,
-- 
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca


From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Wed Apr 15 06:07:56 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:07:56 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] 12.2(33)SRC*/SRD* Watchdog NMI Timeout Crash/BFD Issue
Message-ID: <200904151808.07070.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

Hi all.

So we've been going back and forth on this issue with TAC, 
and I recall posting a few comments about it online several 
months back.

Here's an update for the archives and anyone that's 
interested:

So TAC and I initially worked through bug ID CSCek75694 
(Crash in Pseudo Preemption handler when BFD is configured) 
which linked over to bug ID CSCsq32269 (C7200 crash due to 
watchdog nmi). TAC came back to say this issue was fixed in 
12.2(33)SRC3, as well as other trains. However, this was not 
to be...

So we logged another case with TAC after SRC3 crashed on us 
the exact same way. We seem to have made some progress - bug 
ID CSCsz05181 (stack corruption crash with BFD configured) 
has just been filed.

To summarize, when BFD is enabled and some commands are run 
on a regular basis, e.g., show bootvar" and "show c7200", 
the router crashes. It is not guaranteed that the router 
will crash when these circumstances all come together, but 
the more often the commands are run, the greater the chance 
of the router crashing.

In our case, the regular execution of these commands is due 
to RANCID, hence the eventual cause of the crash.

The current workaround is to disable BFD (for us, RANCID 
takes higher priority).

But that's not all - we were wondering why, while the SRC* 
code for the NPE-G2 and 7201 are vulnerable to this bug, 
they have never once crashed, with BFD enabled and RANCID 
querying these platforms.

Well, it turns out this issue only affects MIPS-based 
processors. While the issue isn't exactly BFD-specific, 
currently, BFD is the only feature known to trigger it.

The reason the NPE-G2 and 7201 are not affected is because 
these platforms do not use MIPS processors.

Still no news on which release will carry the (final) fix, 
but I'm hoping SRC5 at least :-). SRD4 is also affected, for 
anyone that's running it.

Suggest not to run BFD on this code, for the time being 
(particularly on the NPE-G1).

Cheers,

Mark.
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From lowen at pari.edu  Wed Apr 15 11:34:34 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:34:34 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>

On Tuesday 14 April 2009 18:22:03 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> For the life of us, we can't seem to get any more than 60Mbps
> sustained across the ATM testing with iperf, so we're just trying to
> figure out if the GSR just can't push any more than what it's doing or
> if there's something else afoot.
[snip]
> We've done our due diligence to ensure the bits of the network between
> the test machine and the ATM can support 100Mbps, so we're fairly

Hmm, 60mb/s using a 100mb/s connected box sounds about right.  To really 
strain an OC12 you need a gigabit connected tester that can really do a 
gigabit of traffic.  Or multiple test PC's. 

I have a 12012 here in production, and have some of the kit necessary to test 
point to point ATM connections (including a Catalyst 8540MSR with OC12, ARM, 
and gigabit cards), and have a 4xOC12/ATM/MM, but it will be a few days before 
I could have the time to set up a test to see if the 12012 is limited.  The LC 
engines on the ATM card and the 3GE card will be the limiting factor, and 
those cards are rated for line rate on four simultaneous OC12's or line rate 
on two GigE (can't do full line rate on all three with a 2.5Gb/s fabric 
connection).  The GRP CPU is not involved in the data plane on a GSR; the LC 
engine CPU's/ASICs do dCEF and talk directly over the fabric.  Unless you have 
serious fabric issues preventing full bandwidth, in which case you have bigger 
problems.

So I'd first check to see if your iperf test box can really generate sufficient 
traffic.

What sort of ATM switch or router is on the other end of those multimode short 
reach OC12's?  What sort of router is terminating them?  How are your PVC's 
set up?


From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Wed Apr 15 11:46:01 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:46:01 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] SRC on 7200
In-Reply-To: <fad2fb270904140848m27688b24n1cd137928d6da246@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fad2fb270904140848m27688b24n1cd137928d6da246@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200904152346.30087.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:48:36 pm MKS wrote:

> What's your experience with SRC or SRC3 on 7200, is it
> stable as a MPLS PE?

A number of bugs - the worst of which, for us, is a system 
crash when running BFD on an NPE-G1. NPE-G2's and 7201's are 
unaffected. Issue as yet unfixed (please look at an e-mail I 
just sent on this).

Enabling Flexible Netflow on an interface while in 
production also crashes the box, but this is fixed in SRC3.

That said, consider SRC3 as a minimum. Lots of interesting 
features and quite comprehensive, but still a relatively 
"young" code base. 

Mark.
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From luan at netcraftsmen.net  Wed Apr 15 11:56:58 2009
From: luan at netcraftsmen.net (Luan Nguyen)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:56:58 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T
In-Reply-To: <1239807720.5644.10.camel@linux-2sym>
References: <1239804611.5644.6.camel@linux-2sym>	<00a001c9bdd5$d653f540$82fbdfc0$@net>
	<1239807720.5644.10.camel@linux-2sym>
Message-ID: <00f501c9bde2$cefee680$6cfcb380$@net>

Basically you should look for reliable static routing using object tracking
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3/12_3x/12_3xe/feature/guide/dbackupx
.html

An ICMP echo probe is created to monitor the GW of the primary interface.
The probe sends an ICMP echo every 5 seconds, and runs indefinitely:

ip sla 2147483647
 icmp-echo x.x.x.x(GW) source-ip x.x.x.x1 [PRIMARY ADDRESS]
 timeout 1000
 frequency 5
ip sla schedule 2147483647 life forever start-time now

An object tracking rule is created to track the echo probe with a delay of
20 seconds - in case of just link flapping and not a real failure:
!
track 300 rtr 2147483647 reachability
 delay down 20
!
A route map is created to send the ICMP echo packets out the primary WAN
interface only when it is up but sends the packets to a null0 interface when
the primary interface fails.
!
ip access-list extended object-track
 permit icmp host x.x.x.x1 host x.x.x.x
!
route-map OT permit 300
 match ip address object-track
 set ip next-hop x.x.x.x
 set interface Null0
!
A default route is set out the primary interface. Another default route is
set out the secondary interface but at a higher cost.

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 x.x.x.x track 300
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 y.y.y.y 250
!

HTH.

Regards,

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[Web] http://www.netcraftsmen.net
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-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Lange
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:02 AM
To: 'Cisco NSP'
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Dual WAN on Cisco IOS 12.4(24)T

On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 10:24 -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote:
> You could put Fa0 into a VLAN and use that for the cable modem
> connection.

Ok, that's what I figured would work.

Any suggestions for how to make the dual-wan work in a type of fail-over
setup? All of my searching turns up plenty of hits for hardware failover
(dual-PIX setups) but I can't find any example configs for dual-wan on a
single device. I must be using the wrong search terms?

I'm fairly new to cisco and am not certified so any hints as to which
IOS commands/configs can be used to detect fail-over would be great.

Thanks,
-- 
John Lange
http://www.johnlange.ca

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From cgriffin at ufl.edu  Wed Apr 15 12:02:42 2009
From: cgriffin at ufl.edu (Chris Griffin)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:02:42 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SRC on 7200
In-Reply-To: <200904152346.30087.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
References: <fad2fb270904140848m27688b24n1cd137928d6da246@mail.gmail.com>
	<200904152346.30087.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
Message-ID: <49E60522.6040801@ufl.edu>

Also watch out for CSCsy58115.  BGP memory leak if you have any 
idle/active peers.  We are still going through the full scope of this 
bug and how to get around it.

Thanks
Chris

Mark Tinka wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:48:36 pm MKS wrote:
> 
>> What's your experience with SRC or SRC3 on 7200, is it
>> stable as a MPLS PE?
> 
> A number of bugs - the worst of which, for us, is a system 
> crash when running BFD on an NPE-G1. NPE-G2's and 7201's are 
> unaffected. Issue as yet unfixed (please look at an e-mail I 
> just sent on this).
> 
> Enabling Flexible Netflow on an interface while in 
> production also crashes the box, but this is fixed in SRC3.
> 
> That said, consider SRC3 as a minimum. Lots of interesting 
> features and quite comprehensive, but still a relatively 
> "young" code base. 
> 
> Mark.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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-- 
Chris Griffin                           cgriffin at ufl.edu
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From jason at lixfeld.ca  Wed Apr 15 12:11:10 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:11:10 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
Message-ID: <4E072EE9-04F5-4C83-BBCA-B8584E2AB44A@lixfeld.ca>


On 15-Apr-09, at 11:34 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:

> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 18:22:03 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
>> For the life of us, we can't seem to get any more than 60Mbps
>> sustained across the ATM testing with iperf, so we're just trying to
>> figure out if the GSR just can't push any more than what it's doing  
>> or
>> if there's something else afoot.
> [snip]
>> We've done our due diligence to ensure the bits of the network  
>> between
>> the test machine and the ATM can support 100Mbps, so we're fairly
>
> Hmm, 60mb/s using a 100mb/s connected box sounds about right.  To  
> really
> strain an OC12 you need a gigabit connected tester that can really  
> do a
> gigabit of traffic.  Or multiple test PC's.

In this case, I can iperf 97Mbps between two machines connected  
together at 100Mb.

> I have a 12012 here in production, and have some of the kit  
> necessary to test
> point to point ATM connections (including a Catalyst 8540MSR with  
> OC12, ARM,
> and gigabit cards), and have a 4xOC12/ATM/MM, but it will be a few  
> days before
> I could have the time to set up a test to see if the 12012 is limited.

We've been wrestling with this for weeks now, but haven't had the  
means to be able to compare our results to anyone else to see whether  
or not we're an anomaly, so what's another day or four :)

> The LC
> engines on the ATM card and the 3GE card will be the limiting  
> factor, and
> those cards are rated for line rate on four simultaneous OC12's or  
> line rate
> on two GigE (can't do full line rate on all three with a 2.5Gb/s  
> fabric
> connection).

The load is really low, so I'd be very surprised if it was an LC  
limitation, but what do I know:

bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int a2/0 load

     Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
AT2/0                 Tx           48464000      14099
                      Rx          104808000      18012
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int a2/1 load

     Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
AT2/1                 Tx           57581000      13032
                      Rx          116319000      14466
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int g5/0 load

     Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
Gi5/0                 Tx           56851000       8981
                      Rx           35082000       7833
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show int g5/1 load

     Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
--------------------           ------------  ----------
Gi5/1                 Tx          166072000      23424
                      Rx           70951000      19116
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#

So:

Total Throughput: 656128000
Total PPS:	  118963
Average Size (B): 689.4

> The GRP CPU is not involved in the data plane on a GSR; the LC
> engine CPU's/ASICs do dCEF and talk directly over the fabric.   
> Unless you have
> serious fabric issues preventing full bandwidth, in which case you  
> have bigger
> problems.

Again, the bandwidth going over the entire box is like 650Mbps spread  
more or less evenly across the two LCs.

> So I'd first check to see if your iperf test box can really generate  
> sufficient
> traffic.

Here's one of the tests we've done, and we were able to get ~97Mbps  
here:

Macbook Pro -> Linksys 100Mb -> 1811 -> 7609 -> 10GE -> 7609 -> 3550 - 
 > PC 100Mb NIC.

> What sort of ATM switch or router is on the other end of those  
> multimode short
> reach OC12's?  What sort of router is terminating them?  How are  
> your PVC's
> set up?

A2/0 and A2/1 on the GSR connect to two ports on a Fore ASX200BX.

The ASX200BX connects into the provider's SONET network.  On the Z  
side, we're taking the OC12 into a Fore ASX1000.

ATM2/0.100 (vpi/vci 0/100) on side A ultimately terminates on an  
OSM-2OC12-ATM-MM in 7609-A on side Z.
ATM2/1.110 (vpi/vci 0/110) on side A ultimately terminates on an  
OSM-2OC12-ATM-MM in 7609-B on side Z.
7609-A and 7609-B on the Z side are connected by an OC12 ATM on own  
own dark fiber.

Fores at the A and Z side are both clean as a whistle.  No error  
seconds anywhere.

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From steve.mcnamara at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 12:14:15 2009
From: steve.mcnamara at gmail.com (Steve McNamara)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:14:15 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Using Cisco 3825 as Firewall Replacement
In-Reply-To: <935ead450904150735k21fe994fqe7e2670c2624ee45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU129-W199FBFD7B89F6751CC9478AE7D0@phx.gbl>
	<935ead450904150735k21fe994fqe7e2670c2624ee45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <494a4f80904150914jd9b0e06s4b9422d147d34c4a@mail.gmail.com>

Darin,

Sounds like the IOS zone based firewall might be applicable to what
you are after - there is support for NAT.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6441/products_feature_guide09186a008060f6dd.html

Note: I haven't configured this before so YMMV :-)

Steve

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 15:35, Jeffrey Ollie <jeff at ocjtech.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Darin Herteen <synack at live.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a customer who's firewall recently bricked and is unusable. This
>> device had previously served as a VPN to their LAN from the outside
>> world, restricted access between internal VLAN's, and provided NAT for
>> internal addresses to reach the internet. They happened to have a Cisco
>> 3825 laying around and I've been attempting to get this router
>> configured to duplicate the functionality of the now deceased firewall.
>> [...]
>> Does anybody have any recommendations or advice to offer regarding this setup and whether or not it can be accomplished.
>
> The 3825 is a fairly nice router, but it can't handle a lot of
> throughput. ?I don't recall the exact specs (and can't find on a quick
> search), but I think that it can only handle <100Mb/s. ?That seems
> kinda low but I think it wasn't really designed as a packet pusher,
> but instead is designed as a platform for services like VoIP etc.
> It'll can probably be configured to do what you want, but I'm sure
> you'll be disappointed with the performance, especially for LAN->LAN
> traffic.
>
> --
> Jeff Ollie
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From lowen at pari.edu  Wed Apr 15 13:11:25 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:11:25 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <4E072EE9-04F5-4C83-BBCA-B8584E2AB44A@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <200904151311.26201.lowen@pari.edu>

On Wednesday 15 April 2009 12:11:10 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> Again, the bandwidth going over the entire box is like 650Mbps spread
> more or less evenly across the two LCs.

Just a quick comment on this statement, and then in a few days I'll see if I 
can't set up a back-to-back test with the 12012 here.  I don't have any Fore 
switches, but I do have the Catalyst 8540MSR, and I have a few 3Com 
Corebuilder 7000HD's with OC12 linecards, so I can set up a lab easily enough.  
I even have some of the ForeRunner HE622 OC12 ATM cards to pop in a server to 
generate traffic.  

I actually need to be testing the OC12 stuff anyway, since I have some 
multimode fiber runs that are too long for GigE but short enough to do OC12 
multimode (550m is limit for 1000Base-LX on multimode 62.5 um even with mode-
conditioning cables, and 800m is the limit for OC12 over the same fiber, and 
these links are in the mid 700's), so this is something I actually NEED to do 
at some point in time to upgrade those links from 100Base-FX; that's actually 
where the 8540MSR is getting deployed, to bridge/route some GigE over four 
OC12 links.

But, back to the 12012, in full-bandwidth mode, the fabric is theoretically 
capable of giving 2.4Gb/s to each linecard.  In quarter-bandwidth mode, you 
get 622Mb/s to each linecard.  What does 'show controllers fia' tell you?  Only 
engine 0 cards are supposed to run in quarter-bandwidth mode, but, given all 
the other 'undocumented' things about the GSR, who knows?  (undocumented 
things like 'show fabric' for instance).  I'm not even sure the 12008 can be 
set up in quarter bandwidth mode; the 12012 can, though.

Also, last question, what IOS are you running?  If you're not on 12.0(32)S12, 
you can be, even without a service contract, by filing a free upgrade request 
with TAC and reference either the September 24, 2008 security advisories or 
the latest March 25th advisory bundle.


From jdevane at switchnap.com  Wed Apr 15 12:44:27 2009
From: jdevane at switchnap.com (Jim Devane)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:44:27 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10188D798B596E4585DEAEAC62596D234237DF87@WATERFORD.switchnet.nv>

Well, restarting the router will do it, when that is not as feasible you can try:

Sh tcp br to get the TCB address, then clear that out with cle ip tcp tcb XXXXX

Router# sh tcp br
TCB       Local Address           Foreign Address        (state)
5AEE7990  2.2.2.2.179    	    2.2.2.3.17492 ESTAB
58F2E668  2.2.2.2.22              lifebook.11004 ESTAB

Router# cle ip tcp tcb 58F2E668

Take care to enter the right address, otherwise you may get some BGP messages for good measure. = ) 

HTH,
Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Stanly Johns
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:07 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines

Hi there,

even after clearing the  vty lines they were still there. I was unable to telnet to the router.

I had to restart the router to clear all the lines.

any clue what could be the reason ?

thanks.

Perimeter#sh users
Line User Host(s) Idle Location
* 0 con 0 idle 00:00:00
322 vty 0 idle 5w1d 190.42.12.218
323 vty 1 idle 5w0d
client-201.230.86.15.speedy.net.pe
324 vty 2 idle 3w5d 151.56.21.165
325 vty 3 idle 2w4d
client-190.40.212.198.speedy.net.pe
326 vty 4 idle 1w5d 84.36.28.19

Interface User Mode Idle Peer Address

Perimeter#
Perimeter#clear line vty 2
[confirm]
[OK]
Perimeter#
Perimeter#sh users
Line User Host(s) Idle Location
* 0 con 0 idle 00:00:00
322 vty 0 idle 5w1d 190.42.12.218
323 vty 1 idle 5w0d
client-201.230.86.15.speedy.net.pe
324 vty 2 idle 3w5d 151.56.21.165
325 vty 3 idle 2w4d
client-190.40.212.198.speedy.net.pe
326 vty 4 idle 1w5d 84.36.28.19

Interface User Mode Idle Peer Address

line con 0
stopbits 1
line aux 0
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
password 7

login
!
scheduler allocate 20000 1000
!
end

Perimeter#
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Wed Apr 15 13:30:42 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:30:42 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <4E072EE9-04F5-4C83-BBCA-B8584E2AB44A@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
	<4E072EE9-04F5-4C83-BBCA-B8584E2AB44A@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <1239816642.14908.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 12:11 -0400, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> In this case, I can iperf 97Mbps between two machines connected  
> together at 100Mb.
<cut>
> Here's one of the tests we've done, and we were able to get ~97Mbps  
> here:
>  
> Macbook Pro -> Linksys 100Mb -> 1811 -> 7609 -> 10GE -> 7609 -> 3550 - 
>  > PC 100Mb NIC.

This may or may not be relevant, but depending on how much extra latency
the 12008 introduces you might still have a client side limitation doing
TCP. Reasonable TCP window sizes and effective sender side congestion
control are needed.

How much latency end-to-end in the setup with/without the 12008?

Making IPerf use a defined load in a UDP stream (e.g. 100 Mbps) and then
measuring the loss would overcome this limitation of course.

Regards,
Peter



From jason at lixfeld.ca  Wed Apr 15 13:31:24 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:31:24 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <200904151311.26201.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151311.26201.lowen@pari.edu>
Message-ID: <009401DE-1293-42F0-A8CB-17BA5B658209@lixfeld.ca>


On 15-Apr-09, at 1:11 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:

> But, back to the 12012, in full-bandwidth mode, the fabric is  
> theoretically
> capable of giving 2.4Gb/s to each linecard.  In quarter-bandwidth  
> mode, you
> get 622Mb/s to each linecard.  What does 'show controllers fia' tell  
> you?  Only
> engine 0 cards are supposed to run in quarter-bandwidth mode, but,  
> given all
> the other 'undocumented' things about the GSR, who knows?   
> (undocumented
> things like 'show fabric' for instance).  I'm not even sure the  
> 12008 can be
> set up in quarter bandwidth mode; the 12012 can, though.

show cont fia tells me that 0s are a good thing ;)

bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#show controllers fia
Fabric configuration: 2.4Gbps bandwidth, redundant fabric
Master Scheduler: Slot 17     Backup Scheduler: Slot 16
Fab epoch no 0          Halt count 0

 From Fabric FIA Errors
-----------------------
redund fifo parity 0          redund overflow 0          cell drops 0
crc32 lkup parity  0          cell parity     0          crc32      0
Switch cards present    0x001F    Slots  16 17 18 19 20
Switch cards monitored  0x001F    Slots  16 17 18 19 20
Slot:     16         17         18         19         20
Name:    csc0       csc1       sfc0       sfc1       sfc2
        --------   --------   --------   --------   --------
los    0          0          0          0          0
state  Off        Off        Off        Off        Off
crc16  0          0          0          0          0

To Fabric FIA Errors
-----------------------
sca not pres 0          req error     0          uni fifo overflow 0
grant parity 0          multi req     0          uni fifo undrflow 0
cntrl parity 0          uni req       0          crc32 lkup parity 0
multi fifo   0          empty dst req 0          handshake error   0
cell parity  0
bdr1.nyc-hudson-12008#

> Also, last question, what IOS are you running?  If you're not on  
> 12.0(32)S12,
> you can be, even without a service contract, by filing a free  
> upgrade request
> with TAC and reference either the September 24, 2008 security  
> advisories or
> the latest March 25th advisory bundle.

We're on S8, not S12.

Anything sticking out about the S8 vs. S12, or just trying to make  
sure the yard is clean?

From jason at lixfeld.ca  Wed Apr 15 13:42:08 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:42:08 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <1239816642.14908.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
	<4E072EE9-04F5-4C83-BBCA-B8584E2AB44A@lixfeld.ca>
	<1239816642.14908.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <786E3613-1B62-4ACE-AAEC-FC69889E07D2@lixfeld.ca>

On 15-Apr-09, at 1:30 PM, Peter Rathlev wrote:

> This may or may not be relevant, but depending on how much extra  
> latency
> the 12008 introduces you might still have a client side limitation  
> doing
> TCP. Reasonable TCP window sizes and effective sender side congestion
> control are needed.

Good advice.  Didn't consider that.

> How much latency end-to-end in the setup with/without the 12008?

12ms (Toronto to New York and back) with the 12008.  Haven't hair  
pinned a port on the New York Fore yet, so can't determine latency  
without the 12008.

> Making IPerf use a defined load in a UDP stream (e.g. 100 Mbps) and  
> then
> measuring the loss would overcome this limitation of course.

I'd happily test that, however we don't have a machine on-site in New  
York, unless you (or anyone else, for that matter ;)) happen to have a  
box hanging off NYIIX that I could dump traffic to over our NYIIX link.

> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
>


From DLasher at newedgenetworks.com  Wed Apr 15 13:12:32 2009
From: DLasher at newedgenetworks.com (Lasher, Donn)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 10:12:32 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
Message-ID: <C97F73E15F1F0D48A3AC0C423F8C221A01630744@rancor.ad.newedgenetworks.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lamar Owen
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:35 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC
throughput?

<snip>
>The GRP CPU is not involved in the data plane on a GSR; the LC 
>engine CPU's/ASICs do dCEF and talk directly over the fabric.  Unless
you have 
>serious fabric issues preventing full bandwidth, in which case you have
bigger 
>problems.
<snip>

Depending on the protocol / encaps / engine age / packet-size, you may
see very high CPU loads preventing line rates on certain cards. Try, as
an example, (Engine0 GIG-E card + MPLS Labeling + QoS + ACL's). You'll
see much higher CPU doing that, than say, the same thing on an Engine3
GIG-E card.





From lowen at pari.edu  Wed Apr 15 14:58:38 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:58:38 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <786E3613-1B62-4ACE-AAEC-FC69889E07D2@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <200904151458.39229.lowen@pari.edu>

On Wednesday 15 April 2009 13:42:08 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> On 15-Apr-09, at 1:30 PM, Peter Rathlev wrote:
> > How much latency end-to-end in the setup with/without the 12008?

> 12ms (Toronto to New York and back) with the 12008.  Haven't hair
> pinned a port on the New York Fore yet, so can't determine latency
> without the 12008.

Incidentally, the 'show fabric' undocumented command shows internal latencies 
across the fabric.

The ATM SAR tax may be hitting you, too.


From jason at lixfeld.ca  Wed Apr 15 18:35:40 2009
From: jason at lixfeld.ca (Jason Lixfeld)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:35:40 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <200904151458.39229.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151458.39229.lowen@pari.edu>
Message-ID: <87C6535E-34F1-451D-BD4F-B1E2CB5340AF@lixfeld.ca>


On 15-Apr-09, at 2:58 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:

> Incidentally, the 'show fabric' undocumented command shows internal  
> latencies
> across the fabric.

Highest latency on the fabric is 84ms, over two months ago.

> The ATM SAR tax may be hitting you, too.

Not being an ATM guru, I hope someone will clue-bat me if I get too  
far gone with my calculations below...

An ATM cell payload is 48 bytes long.  On top of each cell, there's a  
5 byte ATM header.

If my average packet size is 690 bytes, one packet would be stuffed  
into 15 cells.  Each of those 15 cells would have an additional 5  
bytes of overhead for the header.

So, 5 bytes header for 15 cells = 75 bytes per 1 690 byte packet = 765  
bytes/6120 bits.

At the time the sample was taken, I was pulling in 27131pps over my  
two GSR ATM interfaces and pushing 32478pps over the same two  
interfaces.  If my cell tax calculations are right, that would equal  
166041720bps in and 198765360bps out across the GSR, but equally  
importantly, that would equal the same amount being put over the OC12  
to Toronto.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on this estimation, ATM cell tax  
wouldn't be an issue, would it?

From David at Hughes.com.au  Wed Apr 15 20:00:08 2009
From: David at Hughes.com.au (David Hughes)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:00:08 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
Message-ID: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>

Hi

Seeing as this is all bleeding edge, I'd be very interested in any  
first hand experiences with breaking out FCoE to traditional FC via an  
N5K.  Is it working OK?  Are you running it as a switch or in NPV  
mode?  How's the interop with your FC fabric (and who's gear are you  
using for  FC switching).  Whos CNA's are downstream of the N5K?  Any  
thoughts, observations etc you can share about this brave new world  
would be greatly appreciated?


Thanks

David
...

From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Wed Apr 15 20:21:07 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C Darby)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:21:07 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
References: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
Message-ID: <OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>


Hello David,

This is entirely my personal opinion and I'm sure some folks in the Nexus
BU at Cisco would hit me for saying this given the chance.

Unless you are using legacy FC devices, hold off on the 5K for this. The
reason I say this is because a new class of storage devices and HBA's that
use 10GbE native are hitting the market. Some vendors are mostly there,
others not at all. I beleive QLogic has HBA's available for this, and I
know the major storage vendors are working on bringing FCoE storage devices
to market. You've also got alternatives to FCoE that can use 10GbE for
native transport now (iSCSI/ATA-over-Ethernet/etc).

The operating cost (relative to performance) of using 10GbE to do FCoE
native are considerably more advantageous than just consolidating 4xFC onto
10GbE. However, if you've already got a bunch of FC gear and you want to
consolidate the transport, there are people using 5K's for this (though I
am not one of them), and given my experience with the 7K i am sure it'll
work out as designed.

Have fun,
Justin

P.S. Opinions here are my own, not the views of the U.S. Government, etc.

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To: "Cisco NSP ((E-mail))'" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
From: David Hughes
Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
Date: 04/15/2009 07:07PM
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout

Hi  Seeing as this is all bleeding edge, I'd be very interested in any
first hand experiences with breaking out FCoE to traditional FC via an
N5K.  Is it working OK?  Are you running it as a switch or in NPV   mode?
How's the interop with your FC fabric (and who's gear are you   using for
FC switching).  Whos CNA's are downstream of the N5K?  Any   thoughts,
observations etc you can share about this brave new world   would be
greatly appreciated?   Thanks  David ...
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From ibrahim.abozaid at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 22:22:38 2009
From: ibrahim.abozaid at gmail.com (Ibrahim Abo Zaid)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:22:38 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <87C6535E-34F1-451D-BD4F-B1E2CB5340AF@lixfeld.ca>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
	<200904151458.39229.lowen@pari.edu>
	<87C6535E-34F1-451D-BD4F-B1E2CB5340AF@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <a48927f70904151922k2c269e0fi10a1c5ba54773f35@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Jason


I think ATM cell tax will be about 13% on average based on the following

ATM cell tax is composed of 2 parts

1-  ATM over-header (5 bytes for each 53 byte cell and that is a fixed
percnt )
2- cell padding which depends packet distribution

so ATM overhead will be 5/53 = ~ 4%
and cell padding can be calculated as
IP Packet size is 690 bytes will be padded with 30 bytes and transported as
720 bytes (15 cell x 48 payload size) so padding percentage will be ~ 9% (30
/ 720 )

so overall ATM cell tax will be 13% based on the given packet size and for
sure it will vary for other packet size values

best regards
--Ibrahim

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Jason Lixfeld <jason at lixfeld.ca> wrote:

>
> On 15-Apr-09, at 2:58 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>
>  Incidentally, the 'show fabric' undocumented command shows internal
>> latencies
>> across the fabric.
>>
>
> Highest latency on the fabric is 84ms, over two months ago.
>
>  The ATM SAR tax may be hitting you, too.
>>
>
> Not being an ATM guru, I hope someone will clue-bat me if I get too far
> gone with my calculations below...
>
> An ATM cell payload is 48 bytes long.  On top of each cell, there's a 5
> byte ATM header.
>
> If my average packet size is 690 bytes, one packet would be stuffed into 15
> cells.  Each of those 15 cells would have an additional 5 bytes of overhead
> for the header.
>
> So, 5 bytes header for 15 cells = 75 bytes per 1 690 byte packet = 765
> bytes/6120 bits.
>
> At the time the sample was taken, I was pulling in 27131pps over my two GSR
> ATM interfaces and pushing 32478pps over the same two interfaces.  If my
> cell tax calculations are right, that would equal 166041720bps in and
> 198765360bps out across the GSR, but equally importantly, that would equal
> the same amount being put over the OC12 to Toronto.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on this estimation, ATM cell tax
> wouldn't be an issue, would it?
>
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From yevgeniy.voloshin at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 23:53:59 2009
From: yevgeniy.voloshin at gmail.com (Yevgeniy Voloshin)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:53:59 +0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>

Hi,

I have the same problem on ME-C3750-24TE with Cisco IOS Software -> 
C3750ME Software (C3750ME-I5-M), Version 12.2(44)SE, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

In 'sh tcp brief | i \.2[23]' output nothing about telnet ports. But all 
vty lines busy:
    Line       User       Host(s)              Idle       Location
*  0 con 0                idle                 00:00:00  
   1 vty 0                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   2 vty 1                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   3 vty 2                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   4 vty 3                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   5 vty 4                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   6 vty 5                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   7 vty 6                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   8 vty 7                idle                    41w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
   9 vty 8                idle                    34w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  10 vty 9                idle                    34w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  11 vty 10               idle                    31w0d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  12 vty 11               idle                    17w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  13 vty 12               idle                    16w6d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  14 vty 13               idle                    16w6d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  15 vty 14               idle                     2w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  16 vty 15               idle                     2w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx


So right now I am waiting MW to reload box with IOS upgrade.


---
Yev.

From bdikici at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 00:11:56 2009
From: bdikici at gmail.com (Burak Dikici)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:11:56 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP
In-Reply-To: <3e4b8fe10904150617v39f7198fsde71acb4af8cd218@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E521F4.4000705@rainierconnect.net>
	<d9281f5c0904141715l2cffd3a7pfefdf4c24218a388@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4b8fe10904141923y28c023edt8407055824e39adc@mail.gmail.com>
	<d9281f5c0904142334n18fb7ac9ra3b8f22333398c85@mail.gmail.com>
	<d9281f5c0904142345v48028619q6da22fc8576671a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4b8fe10904150617v39f7198fsde71acb4af8cd218@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d9281f5c0904152111u68ceb985rba3bbcc4968944d2@mail.gmail.com>

  Hi Rich ,

 I am thinking on my international ISP community options. I have tired
before the as path prepending configuration with my international ISP. But
as a result , i was still getting some inbound traffic through international
ISP.   If i use their community options , for example if i advetise my
subnet with "send-community" option and 1106 for x6 times prepending , is
this option going to solve the unwanted inbound traffic problem ?
(
http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=AS29259&do_search=Search
did you remember this address ? :)  )

 I think that if the as path prepending configuration works well , the
inbound traffic to my AS through international ISP   will be used as backup
state.   But , as you know in my scenario
for example just international traffic goes from international ISP and come
back through the same link.   What do you say , am i thinking wrong ?

Regards...

Burak Dikici






On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Rich Davies <rich.davies at gmail.com> wrote:

> Burak,
>
> Yes sorry if i wasnt clear.   Basically you can apply the route map for
> your session to provider A to change the local pref on those learned
> prefixes.   You could leave the session to provider B untouched (no route
> map inbound or outbound) and you will achieve "some" traffic changes since
> you're tagging specific prefixes to send to provider A and they would not go
> to provider B (out of country).
>
>
> -Rich
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rich ,
>>
>> Sorry about my last reply.  I couldn't catch the note in your previous
>> message. You said ;
>>
>> "Notice I am not applying a route-map to the other BGP session (3.3.3.3,
>> AS 33333) because all these routes get their default values (local pref of
>> 100, less preferrable).   The route map will allow all the other prefixes
>> there is no implicit deny, it merely tags routes matching ACL 10 with local
>> pref 150."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rich ,
>>>
>>> What do you think about this command ?
>>>
>>> "neighbor 3.3.3.3 description PROVIDER_B_OUTSIDE_COUNTRY"
>>>
>>> This command doesn't have any direction.
>>>
>>> Burak
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Rich Davies <rich.davies at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Burak,
>>>>
>>>> BTW this line should not have been in my example:
>>>>
>>>>   neighbor 2.2.2.2 route-map PROVIDER_A_INSIDE_COUNTRY out
>>>>
>>>> Definately do not want to tag outbound routes in that method as they do
>>>> not originate from you (Doh!!).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Rich
>>>>
>>>>  On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  By the way i wonder , how can it be done symmetrical traffic flow in
>>>>> this
>>>>> scenario ?   Local traffic goes from local ISP and the return traffic
>>>>> comes
>>>>> back through local ISP.   Outside of the country traffic goes from
>>>>> international IPS and the return traffic comes back through
>>>>> internaional
>>>>> ISP.  I don't want to cause any asymmetrical traffic flow between
>>>>> different
>>>>> ISPs and my site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Walter Keen <
>>>>> walter.keen at rainierconnect.net
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > If you are not advertising any space, I would imagine an AS path
>>>>> filter
>>>>> > on ISP-1 (limited to 1 or 2 hops, if that works for you) and no AS
>>>>> path
>>>>> > filter on ISP-2 would do the trick.  You would want a floating static
>>>>> > default route(s) for outbound traffic redundancy.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Now, if you are advertising space, as path prepending may be one way
>>>>> to
>>>>> > go as far as inbound traffic goes, but it gets messy in a situation
>>>>> like
>>>>> > this one.  If you prepend your AS number too many times out ISP1,
>>>>> then
>>>>> > traffic you may have wanted to come in ISP1 may see ISP2 as a closer
>>>>> > route (less AS hops).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Burak Dikici wrote:
>>>>> > >    Hello ,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >   I have got one internet router running BGP , and this router has
>>>>> got
>>>>> > > connections with two different ISPs. One of the ISP is local for my
>>>>> > country
>>>>> > > and the other ISP's location is outside of my country. I want to
>>>>> classify
>>>>> > > geographical traffic with BGP. For example , local traffic to my
>>>>> country
>>>>> > > will go through ISP-1 (local ISP) , outside traffic to my country
>>>>> will go
>>>>> > > through ISP-2 (outside of my country ISP). What i have to do to
>>>>> achieve
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > > kind of configuration ? If i have to use AS path filter , how can i
>>>>> find
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > > local ISP AS path numbers and how can i configure AS path filter
>>>>> for this
>>>>> > > request ? Is that enough using the as-path filter just for the
>>>>> national
>>>>> > ISP
>>>>> > > or should i use it for international ISP also ?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >   If i use AS-path filter for both ISP connections , what will
>>>>> happen to
>>>>> > > redundancy ? I mean , for example i filter national AS numbers at
>>>>> the
>>>>> > > international ISP connection and deny them. Secondly , i filter
>>>>> national
>>>>> > AS
>>>>> > > numbers at the national ISP connection , permit them and the other
>>>>> AS
>>>>> > > numbers will be denied. In this situation , what will happen if the
>>>>> local
>>>>> > > ISP connection goes down ? Because of filtering of the national AS
>>>>> > numbers
>>>>> > > at the international ISP connection , the BGP table doesn't take
>>>>> any
>>>>> > updates
>>>>> > > from the local AS numbers. I hope , i could explain the situation
>>>>> > correctly.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Kind Regards...
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Burak Dikici
>>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > > cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>>>> > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>>>> > > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

From chris.garzon at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 00:18:53 2009
From: chris.garzon at gmail.com (Dracul)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:18:53 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>

If you are running a critical network without the convenience of rebooting,
Jim's Router# cle ip tcp tcb 58F2E668 worked for me

but take note some IOS use the Router#clear tcp tcb  (without the 'ip')

regards,
chris

2009/4/16 Yevgeniy Voloshin <yevgeniy.voloshin at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I have the same problem on ME-C3750-24TE with Cisco IOS Software -> C3750ME
> Software (C3750ME-I5-M), Version 12.2(44)SE, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
>
> In 'sh tcp brief | i \.2[23]' output nothing about telnet ports. But all
> vty lines busy:
>   Line       User       Host(s)              Idle       Location
> *  0 con 0                idle                 00:00:00    1 vty 0
>        idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  2 vty 1                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  3 vty 2                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  4 vty 3                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  5 vty 4                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  6 vty 5                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  7 vty 6                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  8 vty 7                idle                    41w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  9 vty 8                idle                    34w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  10 vty 9                idle                    34w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  11 vty 10               idle                    31w0d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  12 vty 11               idle                    17w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  13 vty 12               idle                    16w6d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  14 vty 13               idle                    16w6d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  15 vty 14               idle                     2w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  16 vty 15               idle                     2w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>
>
> So right now I am waiting MW to reload box with IOS upgrade.
>
>
> ---
> Yev.
>
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From brhedlun at cisco.com  Thu Apr 16 00:25:45 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:25:45 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <C60C1D79.32F88%brhedlun@cisco.com>

If "legacy FC devices" means FC attached storage arrays, well that would be
just about everything out there today.  Current and next generation C-N-A's
do not operate any differently in how FC attached storage is accessed (via a
Nexus 5K with FC uplinks).  Even with FCoE attached storage the Nexus 5K is
still a key piece of the server access architecture.

iSCSI at 10GE has its challenges as there is an order of magnitude increase
in TCP processing requirements at 10GE vs. 1GE, 10x more buffers required
for TCP windowing for sustained 10GE throughput under latency, 10x more
packets-per-second requiring TCP offload processing.  All of which drives up
the cost of the 10GE iSCSI HBA.  Not all 10GE iSCSI HBA's may have these
resources, so it will be interesting to see how those adapters perform under
varying latencies and varying loads vs. FCoE.

FCoE does not have the TCP processing overhead and leverages the hardware
capabilities of the Nexus 5000 to provide the lossless transport to storage,
regardless if the array is FC or FCoE attached.


Cheers,

Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org



On 4/15/09 7:21 PM, "Justin C Darby" <jcdarby at usgs.gov> wrote:

> 
> Hello David,
> 
> This is entirely my personal opinion and I'm sure some folks in the Nexus
> BU at Cisco would hit me for saying this given the chance.
> 
> Unless you are using legacy FC devices, hold off on the 5K for this. The
> reason I say this is because a new class of storage devices and HBA's that
> use 10GbE native are hitting the market. Some vendors are mostly there,
> others not at all. I beleive QLogic has HBA's available for this, and I
> know the major storage vendors are working on bringing FCoE storage devices
> to market. You've also got alternatives to FCoE that can use 10GbE for
> native transport now (iSCSI/ATA-over-Ethernet/etc).
> 
> The operating cost (relative to performance) of using 10GbE to do FCoE
> native are considerably more advantageous than just consolidating 4xFC onto
> 10GbE. However, if you've already got a bunch of FC gear and you want to
> consolidate the transport, there are people using 5K's for this (though I
> am not one of them), and given my experience with the 7K i am sure it'll
> work out as designed.
> 
> Have fun,
> Justin
> 
> P.S. Opinions here are my own, not the views of the U.S. Government, etc.
> 
> -----cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net wrote: -----
> To: "Cisco NSP ((E-mail))'" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> From: David Hughes
> Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> Date: 04/15/2009 07:07PM
> Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
> 
> Hi  Seeing as this is all bleeding edge, I'd be very interested in any
> first hand experiences with breaking out FCoE to traditional FC via an
> N5K.  Is it working OK?  Are you running it as a switch or in NPV   mode?
> How's the interop with your FC fabric (and who's gear are you   using for
> FC switching).  Whos CNA's are downstream of the N5K?  Any   thoughts,
> observations etc you can share about this brave new world   would be
> greatly appreciated?   Thanks  David ...
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From ltd at cisco.com  Thu Apr 16 00:39:04 2009
From: ltd at cisco.com (Lincoln Dale)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:39:04 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
References: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
Message-ID: <49E6B668.6000001@cisco.com>

g'day Dave,

i'll reply, because i can <grin>,

David Hughes wrote:
> Seeing as this is all bleeding edge, I'd be very interested in any 
> first hand experiences with breaking out FCoE to traditional FC via an 
> N5K.  Is it working OK?
of course, i'll be biased here, but - yes - no issues with it working 
just fine.
a big part of saying this is that NX-OS is SAN-OS which has been 
field-proven over the years to be a sound reliable basis for SAN switching.

>   Are you running it as a switch or in NPV mode?
i know of multiple production networks running it both ways, in NPV and 
as a traditional ISL (E_Port).
again, the 'code' to run both is the same as the code on Cisco MDS.
>   How's the interop with your FC fabric (and who's gear are you using 
> for  FC switching).
Cisco supports standards-based interop.  i guess with NPV the intent is 
that its a F_Port so should be no interop challenges there anyway.
> Whos CNA's are downstream of the N5K?
you can choose Q or E variety today.
>   Any thoughts, observations etc you can share about this brave new 
> world would be greatly appreciated?
i'll let others comment on that part.


cheers,

lincoln.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> David
> ...
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From engel.labiro at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 02:33:47 2009
From: engel.labiro at gmail.com (Engelhard Labiro)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:33:47 +0900
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62D4BBB1-19AA-4584-B96A-B1EFA92C899D@gmail.com>

Is this bug or just config under vty that disabled session timeout?
Do you have entry "exec timeout 0 0" at line vty?

On 2009/04/16, at 12:53, Yevgeniy Voloshin  
<yevgeniy.voloshin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have the same problem on ME-C3750-24TE with Cisco IOS Software ->  
> C3750ME Software (C3750ME-I5-M), Version 12.2(44)SE, RELEASE  
> SOFTWARE (fc1)
>
> In 'sh tcp brief | i \.2[23]' output nothing about telnet ports. But  
> all vty lines busy:
>   Line       User       Host(s)              Idle       Location
> *  0 con 0                idle                 00:00:00    1 vty  
> 0                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  2 vty 1                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  3 vty 2                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  4 vty 3                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  5 vty 4                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  6 vty 5                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  7 vty 6                idle                    1y11w xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  8 vty 7                idle                    41w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>  9 vty 8                idle                    34w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 10 vty 9                idle                    34w5d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 11 vty 10               idle                    31w0d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 12 vty 11               idle                    17w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 13 vty 12               idle                    16w6d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 14 vty 13               idle                    16w6d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 15 vty 14               idle                     2w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> 16 vty 15               idle                     2w2d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>
>
> So right now I am waiting MW to reload box with IOS upgrade.
>
>
> ---
> Yev.
> _______________________________________________
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From hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu  Thu Apr 16 03:56:00 2009
From: hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu (Hegedus Gabor)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:56:00 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VPN 3000 certificate based S2S
Message-ID: <49E6E490.6000302@euroway.hu>

Hi all!

I don't find answer to my question on the net.

My problem is the following:


I have a cisco VPN 3000 device, and we want site-2-site vpn with this  
device.
I got the root CA  cert and I added it  successfully.
I have our certificate what is in coded format .p12 file with password.

How can I install this p12 file, because only cert request is allowed on 
the VPN concentrator, I can't upload(install) my cert simply. I tried it 
on ASA, and it works good, i can install root ca and my ca both on it.

I don't want send cert request to the root ca, cos I already have all 
cert file.

What can I do with my p12  ?  convert it to what?  What are extensions 
and file formats the vpn3000 look out in identity cert section?

any suggestion?


thank you, Gabor

From David at hughes.com.au  Thu Apr 16 04:29:07 2009
From: David at hughes.com.au (David Hughes)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:29:07 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>
References: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <0FADF09F-90F9-4E9A-8AC4-070A604B53F0@hughes.com.au>


Hi Justin,

On 16/04/2009, at 10:21 AM, Justin C Darby wrote:

> Unless you are using legacy FC devices, hold off on the 5K for this.  
> The
> reason I say this is because a new class of storage devices and  
> HBA's that
> use 10GbE native are hitting the market. Some vendors are mostly  
> there,
> others not at all.

I haven't seen much activity on the native FCoE storage front yet.   
Hanging storage directly off a N7K (when there are FCoE linecards for  
it) is the perfect solution but that's a way off.  There isn't even  
multi-hop support for FCoE yet so doing a "real" FCoE end-to-end  
solution is not going to happen too soon.  It all sounds very cool but  
I think the paint is still quite wet on this stuff.  FCoE to FC break- 
out looks like a reasonable intermediary step.

Do you have details on native FCoE storage offerings?



Thanks

David
...

From eric at atlantech.net  Thu Apr 16 08:46:51 2009
From: eric at atlantech.net (Eric Van Tol)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:46:51 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dracul
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 AM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
> 
> If you are running a critical network without the convenience of
> rebooting,
> Jim's Router# cle ip tcp tcb 58F2E668 worked for me
> 
> but take note some IOS use the Router#clear tcp tcb  (without the 'ip')
> 
> regards,
> chris

If you can't gain access to the CLI, it is possible to reset vty TCP sessions using SNMP, assuming you have a read-write string configured on the device.  I personally don't know the procedure, but there are tools out there such as the Solarwinds Engineers Edition toolset that let you do this.  If anyone knows the right procedure, maybe they can post it here.

-evt

From ler762 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 09:08:03 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:08:03 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/16/09, Eric Van Tol <eric at atlantech.net> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
>> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dracul
>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 AM
>> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
>>
>> If you are running a critical network without the convenience of
>> rebooting,
>> Jim's Router# cle ip tcp tcb 58F2E668 worked for me
>>
>> but take note some IOS use the Router#clear tcp tcb  (without the 'ip')
>>
>> regards,
>> chris
>
> If you can't gain access to the CLI, it is possible to reset vty TCP
> sessions using SNMP, assuming you have a read-write string configured on the
> device.  I personally don't know the procedure, but there are tools out
> there such as the Solarwinds Engineers Edition toolset that let you do this.
>  If anyone knows the right procedure, maybe they can post it here.

How to Detect and Clear Hung TCP Connections using SNMP

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_problem_troubleshooting09186a00802b93ef.shtml

From alijawad1 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 10:16:58 2009
From: alijawad1 at gmail.com (Ali Jawad)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:16:58 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco router randomly not serving DHCP responses
Message-ID: <fb6f4c5d0904160716g5523fe56he17d528cae5facd9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
I got a Cisco router, it is also the DHCP server of my network the detail
are below.

For some reason the server randomly stops serving IPs to workstations, even
a repair conection does not work. Some computers have a valid IP but it does
not get renewed.


Router#show version
Cisco IOS Software, 2800 Software (C2800NM-ADVIPSERVICESK9-M), Version
12.4(17b)
, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2008 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 26-Feb-08 01:46 by prod_rel_team

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.4(13r)T, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)

I did enable debug and I got :

Adding to the above I got the following debug info...as you can see below
the mac address 0016.d490.8e9a is trying to get an IP but it is getting the
answer..DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information while
0100.40f4.9689 got 192.168.0.204



Router#
*Apr 16 14:36:43.375: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:36:43.375: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:36:43.647: %HA_EM-6-LOG: CLIAccounting: terminal monitor

*Apr 16 14:37:00.535: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:37:00.535: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:37:05.375: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:37:05.379: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:37:16.375: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:37:16.375: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:37:29.375: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:37:29.379: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:37:42.375: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:37:42.375: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:37:43.551: DHCPD: DHCPINFORM received from client
0100.40f4.9689.ec (
192.168.0.204).
*Apr 16 14:37:43.551: DHCPD: Sending DHCPACK to client 0100.40f4.9689.ec(192.16
8.0.204).
*Apr 16 14:37:43.551: DHCPD: unicasting BOOTREPLY to client 0040.f496.89ec
(192.
168.0.204).
*Apr 16 14:37:46.555: DHCPD: DHCPINFORM received from client
0100.40f4.9689.ec (
192.168.0.204).
*Apr 16 14:37:46.555: DHCPD: Sending DHCPACK to client 0100.40f4.9689.ec(192.16
8.0.204).
*Apr 16 14:37:46.555: DHCPD: unicasting BOOTREPLY to client 0040.f496.89ec
(192.
168.0.204).
*Apr 16 14:38:00.371: DHCPD: DHCPDISCOVER received from client
0016.d490.8e9a on
interface FastEthernet0/1.
*Apr 16 14:38:00.371: DHCPD: Allocate an address without class information
(192.
168.0.0)
*Apr 16 14:38:07.115: DHCPD: DHCPINFORM received from client
0100.1676.6d3b.5e (
192.168.0.182).
*Apr 16 14:38:07.115: DHCPD: Sending DHCPACK to client 0100.1676.6d3b.5e
(192.16
8.0.182).
*Apr 16 14:38:07.115: DHCPD: unicasting BOOTREPLY to client 0016.766d.3b5e
(192.
168.0.182).
*Apr 16 14:38:10.115: DHCPD: DHCPINFORM received from client
0100.1676.6d3b.5e (
192.168.0.182).
*Apr 16 14:38:10.115: DHCPD: Sending DHCPACK to client 0100.1676.6d3b.5e
(192.16
8.0.182).
*Apr 16 14:38:10.115: DHCPD: unicasting BOOTREPLY to client 0016.766d.3b5e
(192.
168.0.182).


Please advice. The pool is:

#show ip dhcp pool

Pool centrale :
Utilization mark (high/low) : 100 / 0
Subnet size (first/next) : 0 / 0
Total addresses : 254
Leased addresses : 143
Pending event : none
1 subnet is currently in the pool :
Current index IP address range Leased addr
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.254 143

From frosya84 at mail.ru  Thu Apr 16 10:50:30 2009
From: frosya84 at mail.ru (=?koi8-r?Q?=EF=CC=D8=C7=C1_=F2=D5=D6=C1=CE=D3=CB=C1=D1?=)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:50:30 +0400
Subject: [c-nsp] SNMP MIB for NetFlow TCAM utilization (Ruzhanskaya Olga)
Message-ID: <E1LuSv8-0000P5-00.frosya84-mail-ru@f134.mail.ru>


Hello List!

Maybe someone have already decided this problem.

We need to watch for TCAM utilization for NetFlow via the SNMP.
But I haven't find SNMP MIB dedicated for this situation:-( 
We've tried to find it in this groups: 
CISCO-NETFLOW-MIB, CISCO-SWITCH-ENGINE-MIB..
There are nothing for NetFlow TCAM utilization.

Any idea?
  
Best regards, 
Olga
 
 


From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Thu Apr 16 11:06:48 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C Darby)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:06:48 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <0FADF09F-90F9-4E9A-8AC4-070A604B53F0@hughes.com.au>
References: <0FADF09F-90F9-4E9A-8AC4-070A604B53F0@hughes.com.au>,
	<D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>


Unfortunately, no. Outside of multiple vendors promising it's coming soon,
it's been smoke and mirrors. I think the major players up front are going
to be EMC and NetApp, with NetApp in theory having devices on the market
right now I haven't seen yet.
( http://www.netapp.com/us/products/protocols/fcoe/ )

We're actually using in-house built ATA-over-Ethernet devices which have
similar advantages, but this isn't very 'enterprisey' - this was us trying
to find a way to deal with extreme I/O loads on giant Oracle databases
(which are now back to being CPU bound for the first time in years). They
also beat the heck out of 4x FC interfaces, preforming at 600-800MB/s, for
most of our applications under load. There are a bunch of people jumping
all over this, but I haven't seen results quite yet, I'm just expecting to
see them this year.

The existence of HBA's means its coming - Cisco's UCS design actually
counts on having FCoE 10GbE HBA's if what I'm reading about them is
correct.

Justin

-----David Hughes  wrote: -----
To: Justin C Darby <jcdarby at usgs.gov>
From: David Hughes <David at hughes.com.au>
Date: 04/16/2009 05:40AM
cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout

 Hi Justin,  On 16/04/2009, at 10:21 AM, Justin C Darby wrote:  > Unless
 you are using legacy FC devices, hold off on the 5K for this.   > The >
 reason I say this is because a new class of storage devices and   > HBA's
 that > use 10GbE native are hitting the market. Some vendors are mostly
 > there, > others not at all.  I haven't seen much activity on the native
 FCoE storage front yet.    Hanging storage directly off a N7K (when there
 are FCoE linecards for   it) is the perfect solution but that's a way off.
 There isn't even   multi-hop support for FCoE yet so doing a "real" FCoE
 end-to-end   solution is not going to happen too soon.  It all sounds very
 cool but   I think the paint is still quite wet on this stuff.  FCoE to FC
 break-  out looks like a reasonable intermediary step.  Do you have
 details on native FCoE storage offerings?    Thanks  David ...


From largent at ai.net  Thu Apr 16 12:48:24 2009
From: largent at ai.net (L'argent)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:48:24 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 3560E wire-speed or not?
Message-ID: <49E76158.6020005@ai.net>



Quick question regarding whether a 3560E is wire-speed or not.

According to the Cisco website here: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7078/prod_models_comparison.html

For example, I don't see how a 3560E-12D and a 3560-12SD can both be 
wirespeed when their max PPS is different only by a factor of 2.

The PPS numbers (unless I've done my math wrong) seem to imply *not* 
wirespeed.

However on the product data sheets and the video introduction it says 
"wirespeed". Such as here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ake-nsGcwd8 
and 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7078/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bac22.html

Anything conclusive anyone can share with me?

Our application is to aggregate several 1Gb/s VLANs onto 10G and back. 
The QOS/buffering problems others have mentioned shouldn't be an issue 
for this, but I'd rather not run into any exotic TCAM forwarding 
limitations that some how modify the  wire-speed classification.

Thanks in advance,

LA

From bdikici at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 13:52:24 2009
From: bdikici at gmail.com (Burak Dikici)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:52:24 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP
In-Reply-To: <3e4b8fe10904160707l1568eff8s439c59bc45004019@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E521F4.4000705@rainierconnect.net>
	<d9281f5c0904141715l2cffd3a7pfefdf4c24218a388@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4b8fe10904141923y28c023edt8407055824e39adc@mail.gmail.com>
	<d9281f5c0904142334n18fb7ac9ra3b8f22333398c85@mail.gmail.com>
	<d9281f5c0904142345v48028619q6da22fc8576671a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4b8fe10904150617v39f7198fsde71acb4af8cd218@mail.gmail.com>
	<d9281f5c0904152111u68ceb985rba3bbcc4968944d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4b8fe10904160707l1568eff8s439c59bc45004019@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d9281f5c0904161052u54beb700pa88537e92ade5146@mail.gmail.com>

  Hi Rich ,

 With this configuration , i am still getting inbound traffic from
germany_isp
i didn't use "neighbor send-community"   command in the configuration , is
that couse any problem ?   When i control the my advertised route from the
at&t router , it is looking prepended.

router bgp 5555
neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS remote-as 29259
neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS description Germany_ISP
 address-family ipv4
  no synchronization
  neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS activate
  neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS route-map AS_path_prepend_for_germany_ISP
out
  neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS filter-list 10 out
!
ip as-path access-list 10 permit ^$
!
route-map AS_path_prepend_for_germany_ISP permit 10
match ip address 54
set as-path prepend 5555 5555 5555
!
route-map AS_path_prepend_for_germany_ISP permit 20





By the way , what is the difference between the configs  ;

*!!!!! CONFIG-1 !!!!!*
route-map AS_path_prepend_for_germany_ISP permit 10
 match ip address 54
 set as-path prepend 5555 5555
!
route-map AS_path_prepend_for_germany_ISP permit 20
router bgp 5555
 neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS route-map AS_path_prepend_for_germany_ISP
out




*!!!!! CONFIG-2 !!!!!*
route-map AS_PREPENDING permit 10
 set community 29259:1101

router bgp 5555
 neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS route-map AS_PREPENDING out
 neighbor GERMANY_ISP_IP_ADDRESS send-community













On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Rich Davies <rich.davies at gmail.com> wrote:

> Burak,
>
> Yes you are on the right track.  If you use your internernational ISP's
> pre-designated BGP communities you can cause them to apply the 6x prepending
> that you desire to cause unwanted traffic not to enter your international
> link (due to more "false" as-hops to the destination network/prefix).   Your
> in-country link/ISP will have the more desirable route due to less as-hops
> (inbound to your network) so essentially yes your international link will
> act as a backup link.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> -Rich
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:11 AM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Hi Rich ,
>>
>>  I am thinking on my international ISP community options. I have tired
>> before the as path prepending configuration with my international ISP. But
>> as a result , i was still getting some inbound traffic through international
>> ISP.   If i use their community options , for example if i advetise my
>> subnet with "send-community" option and 1106 for x6 times prepending , is
>> this option going to solve the unwanted inbound traffic problem ?
>> (
>> http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=AS29259&do_search=Search
>> did you remember this address ? :)  )
>>
>>  I think that if the as path prepending configuration works well , the
>> inbound traffic to my AS through international ISP   will be used as backup
>> state.   But , as you know in my scenario
>> for example just international traffic goes from international ISP and
>> come back through the same link.   What do you say , am i thinking wrong ?
>>
>> Regards...
>>
>> Burak Dikici
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Rich Davies <rich.davies at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Burak,
>>>
>>> Yes sorry if i wasnt clear.   Basically you can apply the route map for
>>> your session to provider A to change the local pref on those learned
>>> prefixes.   You could leave the session to provider B untouched (no route
>>> map inbound or outbound) and you will achieve "some" traffic changes since
>>> you're tagging specific prefixes to send to provider A and they would not go
>>> to provider B (out of country).
>>>
>>>
>>> -Rich
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rich ,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about my last reply.  I couldn't catch the note in your previous
>>>> message. You said ;
>>>>
>>>> "Notice I am not applying a route-map to the other BGP session (3.3.3.3,
>>>> AS 33333) because all these routes get their default values (local pref of
>>>> 100, less preferrable).   The route map will allow all the other prefixes
>>>> there is no implicit deny, it merely tags routes matching ACL 10 with local
>>>> pref 150."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rich ,
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think about this command ?
>>>>>
>>>>> "neighbor 3.3.3.3 description PROVIDER_B_OUTSIDE_COUNTRY"
>>>>>
>>>>> This command doesn't have any direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> Burak
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Rich Davies <rich.davies at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Burak,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW this line should not have been in my example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   neighbor 2.2.2.2 route-map PROVIDER_A_INSIDE_COUNTRY out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Definately do not want to tag outbound routes in that method as they
>>>>>> do not originate from you (Doh!!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Burak Dikici <bdikici at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  By the way i wonder , how can it be done symmetrical traffic flow in
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> scenario ?   Local traffic goes from local ISP and the return traffic
>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>> back through local ISP.   Outside of the country traffic goes from
>>>>>>> international IPS and the return traffic comes back through
>>>>>>> internaional
>>>>>>> ISP.  I don't want to cause any asymmetrical traffic flow between
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>> ISPs and my site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Walter Keen <
>>>>>>> walter.keen at rainierconnect.net
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > If you are not advertising any space, I would imagine an AS path
>>>>>>> filter
>>>>>>> > on ISP-1 (limited to 1 or 2 hops, if that works for you) and no AS
>>>>>>> path
>>>>>>> > filter on ISP-2 would do the trick.  You would want a floating
>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>> > default route(s) for outbound traffic redundancy.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Now, if you are advertising space, as path prepending may be one
>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>> > go as far as inbound traffic goes, but it gets messy in a situation
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> > this one.  If you prepend your AS number too many times out ISP1,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> > traffic you may have wanted to come in ISP1 may see ISP2 as a
>>>>>>> closer
>>>>>>> > route (less AS hops).
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Burak Dikici wrote:
>>>>>>> > >    Hello ,
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >   I have got one internet router running BGP , and this router
>>>>>>> has got
>>>>>>> > > connections with two different ISPs. One of the ISP is local for
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> > country
>>>>>>> > > and the other ISP's location is outside of my country. I want to
>>>>>>> classify
>>>>>>> > > geographical traffic with BGP. For example , local traffic to my
>>>>>>> country
>>>>>>> > > will go through ISP-1 (local ISP) , outside traffic to my country
>>>>>>> will go
>>>>>>> > > through ISP-2 (outside of my country ISP). What i have to do to
>>>>>>> achieve
>>>>>>> > that
>>>>>>> > > kind of configuration ? If i have to use AS path filter , how can
>>>>>>> i find
>>>>>>> > the
>>>>>>> > > local ISP AS path numbers and how can i configure AS path filter
>>>>>>> for this
>>>>>>> > > request ? Is that enough using the as-path filter just for the
>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> > ISP
>>>>>>> > > or should i use it for international ISP also ?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >   If i use AS-path filter for both ISP connections , what will
>>>>>>> happen to
>>>>>>> > > redundancy ? I mean , for example i filter national AS numbers at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> > > international ISP connection and deny them. Secondly , i filter
>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> > AS
>>>>>>> > > numbers at the national ISP connection , permit them and the
>>>>>>> other AS
>>>>>>> > > numbers will be denied. In this situation , what will happen if
>>>>>>> the local
>>>>>>> > > ISP connection goes down ? Because of filtering of the national
>>>>>>> AS
>>>>>>> > numbers
>>>>>>> > > at the international ISP connection , the BGP table doesn't take
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> > updates
>>>>>>> > > from the local AS numbers. I hope , i could explain the situation
>>>>>>> > correctly.
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Kind Regards...
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Burak Dikici
>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> > > cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>>>>>> > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>>>>>> > > archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>>>>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>>>>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

From bitkraft at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 14:45:36 2009
From: bitkraft at gmail.com (Brian Spade)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:45:36 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] SNMP MIB for NetFlow TCAM utilization (Ruzhanskaya Olga)
In-Reply-To: <E1LuSv8-0000P5-00.frosya84-mail-ru@f134.mail.ru>
References: <E1LuSv8-0000P5-00.frosya84-mail-ru@f134.mail.ru>
Message-ID: <505b616c0904161145p5cf92aa8k8942c548cdafeffa@mail.gmail.com>

Try:

Flow learn failures (.1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.97.1.4.1.1.6)

/bs

2009/4/16 ????? ????????? <frosya84 at mail.ru>

>
> Hello List!
>
> Maybe someone have already decided this problem.
>
> We need to watch for TCAM utilization for NetFlow via the SNMP.
> But I haven't find SNMP MIB dedicated for this situation:-(
> We've tried to find it in this groups:
> CISCO-NETFLOW-MIB, CISCO-SWITCH-ENGINE-MIB..
> There are nothing for NetFlow TCAM utilization.
>
> Any idea?
>
> Best regards,
> Olga
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>

From rick at woofpaws.com  Thu Apr 16 14:59:03 2009
From: rick at woofpaws.com (Rick Ernst)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] CPU utilization - "media converter" vs "bump in the cable"
Message-ID: <38154.69.30.17.85.1239908343.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>


I was a bit surprised to see that a 7206VXR/NPE-G1 running at the same CPU
utilization on both an ethernet upstream with ~300mbs (in+out) running
through it and an OC-3 upstream with about 100mbs through it.

Multiple upstreams for the same ASN, essentially the same configuration
(other than IP addresses).  All running BGP with full tables to different
upstreams.

Is the NPE-G1 very non-linear in CPU load or (my guess) that the OC-3
upstreams are spending more time rewriting the packet headers from OC-3 to
ethernet.

I'd like to better understand what is going on for capacity/scalability
planning.

Thanks,
Rick


From peter at rathlev.dk  Thu Apr 16 15:05:37 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:05:37 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] C6kSup720 "LAN ONLY" vs. "WAN"
Message-ID: <1239908737.3608.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi,

Could anybody explain to me where I can find some official documentation
about the differences between a "LAN ONLY" and a WAN image for the
Sup720? E.g. the difference between these two images:

s72033-advipservicesk9-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin
s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin

The former is a meagre 59MB where the latter takes up 90MB. I've assumed
that certain WAN modules like OSM cannot run in the "LAN ONLY" image,
but I'd love to know where I could know exactly what can and cannot run
in the "LAN ONLY" image.

Thank you.
Peter



From brhedlun at cisco.com  Thu Apr 16 15:33:10 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:33:10 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <C60CF226.33045%brhedlun@cisco.com>


On 4/16/09 10:06 AM, "Justin C Darby" <jcdarby at usgs.gov> wrote:

> We're actually using in-house built ATA-over-Ethernet devices which have
> similar advantages, but this isn't very 'enterprisey'

Sounds very cool!  I look forward to learning more about this
ATA-over-Ethernet.

> Cisco's UCS design actually
> counts on having FCoE 10GbE HBA's if what I'm reading about them is
> correct.

Cisco UCS has standard PCIe mezzanine form factor 10GE adapters that support
any over-Ethernet access to storage ... iSCSI, NAS, FCoE.  Once at the UCS
Manager, native FC uplinks are available for connecting to existing FC SANs.


Cheers,
Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org



From peter at rathlev.dk  Thu Apr 16 15:35:52 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:35:52 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops
Message-ID: <1239910552.3608.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>

I really hate to ask this question, since input drops/discards and micro
bursts have been discussed so much. I just can't grasp this.

The question is: what are "input drops" that don't show up in "counters
errors" or "queueing", but do show up in "show platform hardware
capacity interfaces"?

Recently we started seeing "input drops" on a 6708 card in Cat6500
running SXF. The other end is the exact samer and the connection in both
ends is 10G LR running 5m to a DWDM circuit carrying it ~50 km. It's a
L3 (no switchport) MPLS link.

The errors appear every twenty minutes very precisely and every time
about 100 packets are dropped "all at once" as far as I can tell. I
don't understand how one end could send micro bursts faster than the
other end could send them when interfaces are similar. (We're also
working on tracking the source/finding out what it is of course.)

The link is hardly used; we're talking peaks of about 40-50 kpps and
400-600 Mbit/s when looking a 5 min Cacti graphs.

The other end doesn't report any errors. It started appearing at a time
where we had just _removed_ some traffic from this link logically. I
don't assume it's related to link layer problems so we haven't tried
replacing anything yet for the same reason.

A "show interface counters errors" shows (almost) nothing:

xxx-1#sh int te6/5 
...
  Input queue: 1/75/121167/12 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  30 second input rate 215774000 bits/sec, 31160 packets/sec
  30 second output rate 317290000 bits/sec, 33704 packets/sec
  L2 Switched: ucast: 69130383 pkt, 6313188185 bytes - mcast: 11526118 pkt, 1281021706 bytes
  L3 in Switched: ucast: 617967640725 pkt, 514240136083975 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
  L3 out Switched: ucast: 589404552537 pkt, 526530456915283 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
     618049766059 packets input, 514245988339000 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 15285284 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
     0 runts, 349752298 giants, 1785 throttles
     14 input errors, 14 CRC, 2 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     590212510115 packets output, 531857495170458 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
xxx-1#
xxx-1#sh int te6/5 counters errors 
Load for five secs: 6%/3%; one minute: 4%; five minutes: 4%
Time source is NTP, 21:19:04.267 CEST Thu Apr 16 2009


Port        Align-Err    FCS-Err   Xmit-Err    Rcv-Err UnderSize OutDiscards
Te6/5               0         14          0         14         0           0

Port      Single-Col Multi-Col  Late-Col Excess-Col Carri-Sen     Runts    Giants
Te6/5              0         0         0          0         0         0 350685137

Port       SQETest-Err Deferred-Tx IntMacTx-Err IntMacRx-Err Symbol-Err
Te6/5                0           0            0            0          2

xxx-1#
xxx-1#sh queueing int te6/5
...
  Packets dropped on Receive:
    BPDU packets:  0

    queue              dropped  [cos-map]
    ---------------------------------------------
    1                        0  [0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ]
    2                        0  []
    3                        0  []
    4                        0  []
    5                        0  []
    6                        0  []
    7                        0  []
    8                        0  []

xxx-1#sh pl hard cap fabric 
Load for five secs: 1%/0%; one minute: 5%; five minutes: 5%
Time source is NTP, 21:28:56.577 CEST Thu Apr 16 2009

Switch Fabric Resources
  Bus utilization: current: 0%, peak was 0% at 21:28:47 CEST Thu Apr 16 2009
  Fabric utilization:     Ingress                    Egress
    Module  Chanl  Speed  rate  peak                 rate  peak               
    1       0        20G    0%    4% @00:08 11Oct08    0%    4% @20:47 24Aug08
    1       1        20G    0%   10% @09:36 28Feb09    0%    8% @13:25 28Jul08
    2       0        20G    0%    0%                   0%    1% @06:38 18Jul08
    2       1        20G    1%    9% @13:25 28Jul08    0%   10% @02:05 13Feb09
    4       0        20G    0%    2% @11:43 15Sep08    0%    4% @19:35 22Feb09
    5       0        20G    0%    5% @09:16 03Sep08    0%    5% @09:16 03Sep08
    6       0        20G    0%   11% @10:46 08Apr09    0%   14% @03:09 21Feb09
    6       1        20G    0%   15% @12:31 26Jan09    1%   14% @12:32 26Jan09
  Switching mode: Module                                        Switching mode
                  1                                                    compact
                  2                                                    compact
                  4                                                    compact
                  5                                                    compact
                  6                                                    compact
xxx-1#sh pl hard cap interface 
Load for five secs: 8%/4%; one minute: 6%; five minutes: 5%
Time source is NTP, 21:30:12.802 CEST Thu Apr 16 2009

Interface Resources
  Interface drops:
    Module    Total drops:    Tx            Rx      Highest drop port:  Tx  Rx
    1                       1843            16                          13  41
    2                     105657             0                          13   0
    4                          0             1                           0   1
    6                          0        121269                           0   5

  Interface buffer sizes:
    Module                            Bytes:     Tx buffer           Rx buffer
    1                                              1221120              173504
    2                                              1221120              173504
    4                                              1221120              173504
    6                                             91889216           109296640
xxx-1#


Maybe I should just become a gardener instead... :-)

Thanks,
Peter



From A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk  Thu Apr 16 16:39:40 2009
From: A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk (A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:39:40 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <C60CF226.33045%brhedlun@cisco.com>
References: <OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
	<C60CF226.33045%brhedlun@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <20090416203940.GA12774@lboro.ac.uk>

Hi,

> > We're actually using in-house built ATA-over-Ethernet devices which have
> > similar advantages, but this isn't very 'enterprisey'
> 
> Sounds very cool!  I look forward to learning more about this
> ATA-over-Ethernet.

Linux has supported ATAoE for some time -

http://aoetools.sourceforge.net/

http://support.coraid.com/support/linux/EtherDrive-2.6-HOWTO.html

very handy technology for some purposes

alan

From paulzugnoni at gmail.com  Thu Apr 16 18:56:07 2009
From: paulzugnoni at gmail.com (Paul Zugnoni)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:56:07 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] need help about switch cisco 4 9 4 8
In-Reply-To: <49A030E9.5040009@kenweb.org>
References: <753ED4F9715A45ABADBDB9DC23C1FCA8@int.convex.pt>
	<28011.1317.qm@web57404.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<5E3C7A341C9C41F5BD5FE75FC12704B1@int.convex.pt>
	<49A030E9.5040009@kenweb.org>
Message-ID: <75032a710904161556m1590ec95jf09843eaae3db285@mail.gmail.com>

fwiw, (nearly 2 months later) on our 4948:
"boot system flash cat4500-ipbasek9-mz.122-31.SGA8.bin" with a
config-register of 0x2102 resulted in the switch booting into rommon mode,
with an error message on the console that the device was not specified.

Upon removing that configuration statement and replacing it with the
following one, the 4948 booted as expected:
boot system flash bootflash:cat4500-ipbasek9-mz.122-31.SGA8.bin   << notice
the specification of bootflash: in front of the image name.

Paul

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM, ML <ml at kenweb.org> wrote:

> Antonio Soares wrote:
>
>> Since you don't have a "boot system flash" statement in your config, you
>> need a config-register = 0x2101. This way it will load the
>> first available image in the bootflash.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares at netcabo.pt
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Just recently we had an issue where a 4924 wouldn't load our desired IOS
> image under any combination of "boot system {flash:|bootflash:} commands we
> could think of.  Only solution was to erase all but the desired image.
> It was a roll the dice hope you don't critically fail situation.
>
> Config register 0x2101.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>

From alex.wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au  Thu Apr 16 18:44:05 2009
From: alex.wilkinson at dsto.defence.gov.au (Wilkinson, Alex)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:44:05 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
References: <D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au> 
	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov> 
	<OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>


    0n Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:06:48AM -0400, Justin C Darby wrote: 

    >We're actually using in-house built ATA-over-Ethernet devices which have
    >similar advantages, but this isn't very 'enterprisey' - this was us trying
    >to find a way to deal with extreme I/O loads on giant Oracle databases
    >(which are now back to being CPU bound for the first time in years). They
    >also beat the heck out of 4x FC interfaces, preforming at 600-800MB/s, for
    >most of our applications under load. There are a bunch of people jumping

This sounds interesting. Care to share a nutshell summary of how you are doing this ?

 -aW


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From lowen at pari.edu  Thu Apr 16 22:45:52 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:45:52 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSR12008|GRP-B|4OC12/ATM-MM-SC|3GE-GBIC-SC throughput?
In-Reply-To: <200904151134.34595.lowen@pari.edu>
References: <9DEF078C-1D8D-4F81-BB77-E4A40E4E7BE6@lixfeld.ca>
Message-ID: <200904162245.52805.lowen@pari.edu>

On Wednesday 15 April 2009 11:34:34 Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 18:22:03 Jason Lixfeld wrote:
> > For the life of us, we can't seem to get any more than 60Mbps
> > sustained across the ATM testing with iperf, so we're just trying to
> > figure out if the GSR just can't push any more than what it's doing or
> > if there's something else afoot.

> I have a 12012 here in production, and have some of the kit necessary to
> test point to point ATM connections (including a Catalyst 8540MSR with
> OC12, ARM, and gigabit cards), and have a 4xOC12/ATM/MM, but it will be a
> few days before I could have the time to set up a test to see if the 12012
> is limited.  

Ok, had a little time today, so got some data. Setup:

Dell Inspiron 600m w/ Gigabit ethernet, running Fedora 10's iperf to a server, 
which is a CentOS 4 VM on an eight-way Opteron VMware ESX system (Dell 
PowerEdge 6950).  

GSR has a 4xOC12 MM ATM card.  

Other ATM OC12 endpoint is a Catalyst 8540CSR with an OC12 ATM MM uplink card 
and a dual GigE card (while I have an 8540MSR, the setup is more complex with 
the MSR than with the CSR with the ATM uplink, and I wanted the simplest 
possible setup to see if the GSR was a limiter).  

As the server is in production, I left it attached to the server farm core 
Extreme Summit1i's, which are GigE-attached to the 12012 GSR.  In the topology 
below, I only list one Summit1i, but there are two in an ESRP setup.

Topology:
600m <-->8540CSR GigabitEthernet10/0/0 via 1000Base-T GBIC
8540CSR ATM0/0/0.1 (VPI/VCI 1/17 PVC) <--> 12012 ATM7/0.1 (VPI/VCI 1/17 PVC)
12012 GigabitEthernet4/0 <--> Extreme Summit1i port 8
Extreme Summit1i port 1 <--> Dell 6950 ESX server GE1.

12012 and the Summit1i are in production (the 12012 is the working side of our 
APS protected OC3 WAN link, and the Summit1i is half of the server farm core), 
and had other traffic, with variable traffic on the VM during test.  I'm pretty 
happy with how much traffic the Dell 600m laptop generated, by the way!

12012 ATM7 is a 4xOC12 ATM MM LC, 8540CSR ATM0/0/0 is a Catalyst 8540 OC12 ATM 
uplink module.  IOS on 12012 is 12.0(32)S12, on the 8540CSR it's 12.1(27b)E3

12012 has two GRP-B's.


Data:
12012 throughput at peak:
pari-gsr-12#sh int atm7/0 load

      Interface                   bits/sec     pack/sec
 --------------------           ------------  ----------
 AT7/0                 Tx          206605000      24617
                       Rx          354535000      34717
pari-gsr-12#

8540CSR throughput at peak:
sr1-8540c-1>sh int atm0/0/0 summ

 *: interface is up
 IHQ: pkts in input hold queue     IQD: pkts dropped from input queue
 OHQ: pkts in output hold queue    OQD: pkts dropped from output queue
 RXBS: rx rate (bits/sec)          RXPS: rx rate (pkts/sec)
 TXBS: tx rate (bits/sec)          TXPS: tx rate (pkts/sec)
 TRTL: throttle count

  Interface              IHQ   IQD  OHQ   OQD  RXBS RXPS  TXBS TXPS TRTL
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* ATM0/0/0                 0     0    0     0 207281000  24491 353708000  
34530
* ATM0/0/0.1               -     -    -     -     -    -     -    -    -
NOTE:No separate counters are maintained for subinterfaces
     Hence Details of subinterface are not shown
sr1-8540c-1>

Output of iperf at client (Dell Inspiron 600m, Pentium M 1.8GHz, Fedora 10), 
slightly sanitized:
[root at localhost ~]# iperf --client esx-host -t 720 --dualtest
------------------------------------------------------------
Server listening on TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.3 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to esx-host, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  5] local 10.250.132.30 port 46676 connected with esx-host port 5001
[  4] local 10.250.132.30 port 5001 connected with esx-host port 45629
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-719.9 sec  18.0 GBytes    215 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]  0.0-720.0 sec  31.3 GBytes    374 Mbits/sec
[root at localhost ~]#


Output of iperf on server (2vCPU VM on a four-way dual core Opteron 2.8GHz 
Dell 6950 ESX 3.5U3; VM running CentOS 4):

[root at esx-host ~]# iperf --server
------------------------------------------------------------
Server listening on TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.3 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  4] local esx-host port 5001 connected with 10.250.132.30 port 46676
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to 10.250.132.30, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  5] local esx-host port 45629 connected with 10.250.132.30 port 5001
Waiting for server threads to complete. Interrupt again to force quit.
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  5]  0.0-720.0 sec  18.0 GBytes    215 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  4]  0.0-720.1 sec  31.3 GBytes    374 Mbits/sec
[root at esx-host ~]#

Port configs:
GSR:
interface ATM7/0                                              
 no ip address                                                
 no ip directed-broadcast                                     
 atm clock INTERNAL                                           
 no atm enable-ilmi-trap
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
!
interface ATM7/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 10.250.132.25 255.255.255.252
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no atm enable-ilmi-trap
 snmp trap link-status
 pvc 1/17
 !
!

Catalyst 8540CSR:
interface ATM0/0/0
 no ip address
 atm clock INTERNAL
 sonet ais-shut
 arp timeout 900
!
interface ATM0/0/0.1 point-to-point
 ip address 10.250.132.26 255.255.255.252
 pvc 1/17
 !
!

That is pretty good throughput for a single workstation attaching over a GigE 
throttled through an ATM OC12 with AAL5 overhead (SAR, VPI/VCI cell tax, etc) 
to a fairly busy server.

You might find 
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/764365-05obbP/native/764365.pdf and 
http://www-didc.lbl.gov/Talks/GBN.final.pdf to be interesting reading.

In light of LBNL's experience, detailed in those two papers, I'm very happy 
indeed with the results of the laptop test.

Hope that helps.


From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Thu Apr 16 22:59:22 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C Darby)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:59:22 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>
References: <20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>,
	<D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>
	<OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <OF25AAA21D.2D3B2AE1-ON8525759B.00106C3F-8525759B.00106C45@usgs.gov>


Sure. I'm going to try to be really brief and as funny as possible for what
was really a traumatic experience last year trying to deal with helping a
technology group that was and is undergoing massive growth. :)

This is slightly OT but, well, this is c-nsp and I'm sure some of you
somewhere are dealing with storage I/O issues and can appreciate.

I am now near the end of a 12 step process..

Step 1: Install Blade server chassis. Populate with blades.

Step 2: Spend a month tuning PL/SQL apps deployed to Blades. Realize you
can't make any more progress because you are I/O bound. Curse Blade servers
for having limited I/O connectivity options.

Step 2.5: Realize you can't spend $300,000 on a Fiber Channel deployment
while also meeting the rest of your yearly deliverables.

Step 3: Calculate your average I/O bandwidth and IOPS load for your
application into how many hard drives you need spinning (in my case, I've
got 48 7200 RPM 1TB SATA drives - we do data warehousing, mostly, on huge
datasets).

Step 4: Find a way to attach all of these drives to something you can
install Linux and 10 Gigabit Ethernet adapters into. Make sure you aren't
oversubscribing the PCIe bandwidth. Make sure you have some kind of
redundancy and backup strategy.

Step 5: Make sure your 'something' supports NUMA and configure Linux to use
the various Zero Copy I/O mechanisms at the kernel level (more recent
2.6.x). Partition your drives (LVM or otherwise), and tune the page cache
of each one for your expected targets.

Step 6: Install vblade. http://aoetools.sourceforge.net/ .. be sure to
increase the AoE buffer count on native 10GbE networks. This takes trial
and error and depends on your hardware and switch buffer sizes.

Step 7: Install 10GbE native ethernet switches and adapters into your Blade
chassis and servers. Set MTU to 9000.

Step 8: Attach your storage device to your 10GbE LAN.

Step 9: Configure clients. Watch your I/O channel widen to 600+ MB/s. If
you did this right, your storage server will pretty easily hit over 90%
utilization of its 10GbE adapters across all attached clients. Notice that
generating client I/O demand much higher is pretty difficult.

Step 9.5: ... Unless you use the NetXen cards IBM sells for Bladecenter H,
in which case you will see maybe 450MB/s on clients because they don't
support an MTU size greater than 8000. Curse IBM and NetXen.

Step 10: Optional? :) Buy a Nexus 7000-series 10GbE switch so you can do
this on a much larger scale given how amazingly well it all worked compared
to how much you spent. If you work in a cash strapped group (like I do),
you may wind up ordering this to replace the pile of bargain basement 1GbE
6500's you've got while you budget in your 10GbE modules for next year.

Step 10.5: Curse about how much 10GbE costs, then remember how much Fiber
Channel costs.

Step 11: Become the official networks and storage guy in your group since,
somehow, all of this worked out. Thank the gods you've been working in
telecoms for years so none of this was beyond you.

Step 12: Realize maintaining all of these yourself is a lot of work and
it'd be REALLY REALLY NICE if some FCoE vendors started releasing native
FCoE hardware and maybe got them on GSA or into SEWP so I, er, you can
start comparing options. (Someone at Cisco - copy and paste this line to
your FCoE partners, thanks! *ahem*)

:)

As an amendment to Step 9.5, IBM now sells Broadcom chips in 10GbE cards
for Bladecenter H. I haven't used them, yet, though I will still say the
following: These work better. And support 9000-byte MTU's. They can not
possibly be worse. Buy these instead.

Also, the Blade Networks Technologies 10GbE switch for the Bladecenter H is
pretty decent for what it does, but there are days I wish I had a nice
Cisco CLI and feature set to work on with them like I do the Gigabit Cisco
switches I've got going for LAN.

Justin

P.S. Personal comments, not governments, etc.

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Date: 04/16/2009 07:37PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout

     0n Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:06:48AM -0400, Justin C Darby wrote:
     >We're actually using in-house built ATA-over-Ethernet devices which
     have     >similar advantages, but this isn't very 'enterprisey' - this
     was us trying     >to find a way to deal with extreme I/O loads on
     giant Oracle databases     >(which are now back to being CPU bound for
     the first time in years). They     >also beat the heck out of 4x FC
     interfaces, preforming at 600-800MB/s, for     >most of our
     applications under load. There are a bunch of people jumping  This
     sounds interesting. Care to share a nutshell summary of how you are
     doing this ?   -aW   IMPORTANT: This email remains the property of the
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From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Thu Apr 16 22:34:08 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:34:08 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] IS-IS LSP Generation/Expiry + Database Optimization -
	Issue - Update!
In-Reply-To: <70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED78406EFE053@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
References: <200902221357.04134.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
	<200902222330.46372.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
	<70B7A1CCBFA5C649BD562B6D9F7ED78406EFE053@xmb-ams-333.emea.cisco.com>
Message-ID: <200904171034.09576.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

Hi all.

Just an update for the archives and folk interested:

TAC came back with an explanation (and solution) to this 
issue.

The issue is that pseudonode link state PDU's don't have MT-
ID's for v6, while non-pseudonodes do.

The iSPF bug in the code doesn't handle pseudonode LSP 
changes for non-base topologies correctly.

Typically, during an iSPF run, changes to the pseudonode are 
applied to all topologies even though the pseudonode LSP's, 
themselves, don't contain any MT-ID's for v6. However, this 
bug creates a situation where, during an iSPF calculation 
for the v6 topology (MT-IPv6), iSPF would only calculate for 
changes that contain MT-ID's. As such, it would skip any 
changes for the pseudonode, leading to the incorrect SPF 
result.

The workarounds: disable multi-topologies and run a single 
topology or disable iSPF (both iSPF and multi-topologies 
should be enabled for the issue to present).

TAC say a fix for this issue will be available in the next 
release of SRD as well as SRC5.

In our case, our pseudonodes in our main PoP are 
6500/SUP720-3BXL's running SX*. However, as concerns these 
switches themselves, this isn't a problem as SX* doesn't 
support iSPF for v6. TAC did mention, though, that if/when 
SX* does support iSPF for v6, this fix will be incorporated.

Cheers,

Mark.
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From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Thu Apr 16 23:35:28 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C Darby)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:35:28 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Ethernet over DWDM
Message-ID: <OF006D3751.36DAFC1A-ON8525759B.0013BA15-8525759B.0013BA1A@usgs.gov>


Anyone care to share any experiences related to running Ethernet over DWDM?
I'm not talking huge Carrier Ethernet deployments, more like enterprise
LAN-to-LAN connectivity.

Particularly, any information at all related to point-to-point DWDM
circuits would be great. Examples: Are you InterLATA or IntraLATA, what
speeds, which technology (gigabit or 10 gigabit if Ethernet), distance,
what carrier, general location, and if you want to throw out a rough
number, how much are you paying for it?

I know all about CapEx savings with DWDM - that's why I'm looking this way.
I'm wondering about actual circuit costs and looking for general ideas of
who's doing what with it.

My needs are US-centric, but don't let that stop you if you have something
to contribute. For the record, I won't be sharing any of the details of
these results with anyone, just the rough aggregate data, if you are so
inclined to be concerned.

Thanks,
Justin


From md at bts.sk  Fri Apr 17 03:20:03 2009
From: md at bts.sk (Marian =?utf-8?B?xI51cmtvdmnEjQ==?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:20:03 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3560E wire-speed or not?
In-Reply-To: <49E76158.6020005@ai.net>
References: <49E76158.6020005@ai.net>
Message-ID: <20090417072003.GA74569@bts.sk>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:48:24PM -0400, L'argent wrote:
> Quick question regarding whether a 3560E is wire-speed or not.
> 
> According to the Cisco website here: 
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps7078/prod_models_comparison.html
> 
> For example, I don't see how a 3560E-12D and a 3560-12SD can both be 
> wirespeed when their max PPS is different only by a factor of 2.

All 3560E models except 3560E-12D are wirespeed.

3560E-12D consists of three 4*10GE wirespeed blocks, but bandwidth
between those blocks is limited.  

    M.

  

From frosya84 at mail.ru  Fri Apr 17 04:02:39 2009
From: frosya84 at mail.ru (=?koi8-r?Q?=EF=CC=D8=C7=C1_=F2=D5=D6=C1=CE=D3=CB=C1=D1?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:02:39 +0400
Subject: [c-nsp]
	=?koi8-r?b?U05NUCBNSUIgZm9yIE5ldEZsb3cgVENBTSB1dGlsaXph?=
	=?koi8-r?b?dGlvbg==?=
Message-ID: <E1Luj1z-000LLj-00.frosya84-mail-ru@f168.mail.ru>

Thanks
But it will show that the table is already full, will not it?
I am interesting to see the processof filling the table..

Best regards,
Olga


From shariq.qam at gmail.com  Fri Apr 17 05:03:28 2009
From: shariq.qam at gmail.com (shariq qamar)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:33:28 +0530
Subject: [c-nsp] route origin
Message-ID: <171b010e0904170203r6d06426bn1b5ff214d7815960@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Techies ,

i have doubt on the origin of route which we learn from juniper routers .
i believe juniper router tag only one origin on all the routers which they
are learning from connetced BGP neighbours
it can be either , egp , incomplete or igp , by default it is igp .


anybuddy have any idea on this , because in cisco router  origin by default
never changes and it shows you prefixes with different
origin with which they belongs , but in juniper i didnt find this .

any comments ????????

-- 
Regards,
Shariq Qamar,

From chaz at chaz6.com  Fri Apr 17 05:45:00 2009
From: chaz at chaz6.com (Chris Hills)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:45:00 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <OF25AAA21D.2D3B2AE1-ON8525759B.00106C3F-8525759B.00106C45@usgs.gov>
References: <20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>,
	<D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>	<OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
	<OF25AAA21D.2D3B2AE1-ON8525759B.00106C3F-8525759B.00106C45@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <49E84F9C.8060104@chaz6.com>

On 17/04/09 04:59, Justin C Darby wrote:
> Step 10.5: Curse about how much 10GbE costs, then remember how much Fiber
> Channel costs.

Yet still you do not hear of much use of Infiniband. I believe at the 2X 
rate (i.e. 10Gbs) it is cheaper than 10GbE. Did you consider using it 
when embarking upon your approach?


From md at bts.sk  Fri Apr 17 06:20:43 2009
From: md at bts.sk (Marian =?utf-8?B?xI51cmtvdmnEjQ==?=)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:20:43 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops
In-Reply-To: <1239910552.3608.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1239910552.3608.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20090417102043.GA80447@bts.sk>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:35:52PM +0200, Peter Rathlev wrote:
> I really hate to ask this question, since input drops/discards and micro
> bursts have been discussed so much. I just can't grasp this.
> 
> The question is: what are "input drops" that don't show up in "counters
> errors" or "queueing", but do show up in "show platform hardware
> capacity interfaces"?
> 
> Recently we started seeing "input drops" on a 6708 card in Cat6500
> running SXF. The other end is the exact samer and the connection in both
> ends is 10G LR running 5m to a DWDM circuit carrying it ~50 km. It's a
> L3 (no switchport) MPLS link.
> 
> The errors appear every twenty minutes very precisely and every time
> about 100 packets are dropped "all at once" as far as I can tell. I
> don't understand how one end could send micro bursts faster than the
> other end could send them when interfaces are similar.

Input drops on L3 interfaces include also drops seen by the RP.
These are not happening on the physical 10GE interface, but on the
CPU's input queue. Try looking for traffic directed to the switch itself
(SNMP, routing protocols etc) or traffic which is being punted to CPU
for some reason.


    M.  



From sthaug at nethelp.no  Fri Apr 17 06:21:45 2009
From: sthaug at nethelp.no (sthaug at nethelp.no)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:21:45 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [c-nsp] route origin
In-Reply-To: <171b010e0904170203r6d06426bn1b5ff214d7815960@mail.gmail.com>
References: <171b010e0904170203r6d06426bn1b5ff214d7815960@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090417.122145.74682536.sthaug@nethelp.no>

> i have doubt on the origin of route which we learn from juniper routers .
> i believe juniper router tag only one origin on all the routers which they
> are learning from connetced BGP neighbours
> it can be either , egp , incomplete or igp , by default it is igp .

Unless you have an explicit policy to set/change the origin on the
Juniper side, the Juniper router won't change the origin.

Here is an example from a Cisco router which has received all its
routes from Juniper routers:

   Network          Next Hop      Metric LocPrf Weight Path
* i4.128.0.0/9      193.75.0.79        0    100      0 3356 i
*>i                 193.75.0.79        0    100      0 3356 i
*>i4.224.56.0/24    193.75.0.70    13331    100      0 3549 7018 ?
* i                 193.75.0.79             100      0 1299 7018 ?
* i47.16.0.0/14     193.75.0.79             100      0 1299 4323 8153 7099 e
*>i                 193.75.0.70    13332    100      0 3549 4323 8153 7099 e

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug at nethelp.no

From zhqasmi at cyber.net.pk  Fri Apr 17 07:08:54 2009
From: zhqasmi at cyber.net.pk (Amjad Ul Hasnain Qasmi)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:08:54 +0600
Subject: [c-nsp] route origin
In-Reply-To: <171b010e0904170203r6d06426bn1b5ff214d7815960@mail.gmail.com>
References: <171b010e0904170203r6d06426bn1b5ff214d7815960@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008c01c9bf4c$e68279a0$b3876ce0$@net.pk>

 Origin attribute is not changed when you advertise a route from BGP table
to any peer. The difference in juniper and cisco implementation is, in cisco
when you redistribute other routing protocol (is-is, ospf) into bgp it set
route origin to unknown"?" while juniper by default exports them as IGP "I".

/Amjad Qasmi.


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of shariq qamar
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:03 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] route origin

Hi Techies ,

i have doubt on the origin of route which we learn from juniper routers .
i believe juniper router tag only one origin on all the routers which they
are learning from connetced BGP neighbours
it can be either , egp , incomplete or igp , by default it is igp .


anybuddy have any idea on this , because in cisco router  origin by default
never changes and it shows you prefixes with different
origin with which they belongs , but in juniper i didnt find this .

any comments ????????

-- 
Regards,
Shariq Qamar,
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From brhedlun at cisco.com  Fri Apr 17 09:01:39 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund (brhedlun))
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:01:39 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <49E84F9C.8060104@chaz6.com>
References: <20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>,
	<D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>	<OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
	<OF25AAA21D.2D3B2AE1-ON8525759B.00106C3F-8525759B.00106C45@usgs.gov>
	<49E84F9C.8060104@chaz6.com>
Message-ID: <991F9EEF-6363-4035-82FE-7FEAA8AD5083@cisco.com>

Not sure about Infiniband, but costs for 10GE server access have come  
down to ~$800/port.  Not bad considering 1GE is ~$300/port (on a good  
switch).

Sent from my iPhone

Brad Hedlund, CCIE 5530
Cisco Systems, Inc.
Consulting System Engineer
Data Center
(773) 695-8226

On Apr 17, 2009, at 4:51 AM, "Chris Hills" <chaz at chaz6.com> wrote:

> On 17/04/09 04:59, Justin C Darby wrote:
>> Step 10.5: Curse about how much 10GbE costs, then remember how much  
>> Fiber
>> Channel costs.
>
> Yet still you do not hear of much use of Infiniband. I believe at  
> the 2X rate (i.e. 10Gbs) it is cheaper than 10GbE. Did you consider  
> using it when embarking upon your approach?
>
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From hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu  Fri Apr 17 09:28:22 2009
From: hegedus.gabor at euroway.hu (Hegedus Gabor)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:28:22 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VPN 3000 certificate based S2S
In-Reply-To: <49E6E490.6000302@euroway.hu>
References: <49E6E490.6000302@euroway.hu>
Message-ID: <49E883F6.80305@euroway.hu>

any Idea?

Hegedus Gabor wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I don't find answer to my question on the net.
>
> My problem is the following:
>
>
> I have a cisco VPN 3000 device, and we want site-2-site vpn with this  
> device.
> I got the root CA  cert and I added it  successfully.
> I have our certificate what is in coded format .p12 file with password.
>
> How can I install this p12 file, because only cert request is allowed 
> on the VPN concentrator, I can't upload(install) my cert simply. I 
> tried it on ASA, and it works good, i can install root ca and my ca 
> both on it.
>
> I don't want send cert request to the root ca, cos I already have all 
> cert file.
>
> What can I do with my p12  ?  convert it to what?  What are extensions 
> and file formats the vpn3000 look out in identity cert section?
>
> any suggestion?
>
>
> thank you, Gabor
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From rens at autempspourmoi.be  Fri Apr 17 08:43:24 2009
From: rens at autempspourmoi.be (Rens)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:43:24 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] L2TPv3 with MTU difference
Message-ID: <7A41C87ED8454252B78FF92B8C87205A@EU.corp.clearwire.com>

Hi,

 

I have an OSPF broadcast configured with several routers.

 

Some of the routers have a higher MTU then others so I use ip ospf mtu
ignore on all the neighbours. (to compensate with the fragmentation at
higher bandwidths)

 

I have routers with mtu 1600 and others have the default 1500 because of
FastEthernet interfaces

 

I have a L2TPv3 tunnel that runs over this IP network, when I configure a
tunnel between a router that has 1600 & 1500 mtu I can't pass any frames of
1518

 

When doing 1518, the tester that is connected to the router that does 1600
is receiving them, but the tester that is connected to the router that does
1500 isn't receiving anything.

 

When I lower it to 1280 it works again.

 

All help welcome

 

Regards,

 

Rens

 

 


From peter at rathlev.dk  Fri Apr 17 10:31:43 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:31:43 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops
In-Reply-To: <9683A1EFE9214446A78BDA9EA8AF79DC9DBDECAF@NEUBOS3ES816CLS.nunet.neu.edu>
References: <1239910552.3608.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090417102043.GA80447@bts.sk>
	<9683A1EFE9214446A78BDA9EA8AF79DC9DBDECAF@NEUBOS3ES816CLS.nunet.neu.edu>
Message-ID: <1239978703.3861.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:20 +0200, Marian ?urkovi? wrote:
> Input drops on L3 interfaces include also drops seen by the RP.
> These are not happening on the physical 10GE interface, but on the
> CPU's input queue. Try looking for traffic directed to the switch
> itself (SNMP, routing protocols etc) or traffic which is being punted
> to CPU for some reason.

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 09:41 -0400, Dhingra, Anand wrote:
> I am not sure why... but for some odd reason cisco only has a 75
> packet buffer per interface going to the CPU.

That was just the pieces of information I needed. I adjusted the
hold-queue from 75 to 256 packets and the drops are now gone.

Only thing left is to find out what those bursts are that the switch
punts. But I'm very glad that there was an (easy to understand)
explanation. :-)

Thank you both of you!

Regards,
Peter



From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Fri Apr 17 10:56:55 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C Darby)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:56:55 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <49E84F9C.8060104@chaz6.com>
References: <49E84F9C.8060104@chaz6.com>,
	<20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>,
	<D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au>
	<OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>	<OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov>
	<OF25AAA21D.2D3B2AE1-ON8525759B.00106C3F-8525759B.00106C45@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <OF92072B8B.CD53BFE9-ON8525759B.00521D9B-8525759B.00521DA0@usgs.gov>


AFAIK, 2x FC is 2.125 GBps (~200MB/s), we were quoting 4x FC as a
comparison - 4.25GBps / ~400 MB/s.

The 10GbE solution is a lot faster and at the time cost less than us
deploying 4x FC. This was also a year ago. 4x FC was our top capability
with Bladecenter H at the time.

Justin

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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout

On 17/04/09 04:59, Justin C Darby wrote: > Step 10.5: Curse about how much
10GbE costs, then remember how much Fiber > Channel costs.  Yet still you
do not hear of much use of Infiniband. I believe at the 2X  rate (i.e.
10Gbs) it is cheaper than 10GbE. Did you consider using it  when embarking
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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 11:23:57 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:23:57 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
References: <49E84F9C.8060104@chaz6.com>,
	<20090416224405.GA26216@stlux503.dsto.defence.gov.au>,
	<D4F0976D-FEB7-401D-B85A-728496C28B66@Hughes.com.au><OF431CB3DF.F0F89E35-ON8525759A.0001EF27-8525759A.0001EF2F@usgs.gov>	<OF74F7F5BF.DF0EABF6-ON8525759A.00530549-8525759A.0053054F@usgs.gov><OF25AAA21D.2D3B2AE1-ON8525759B.00106C3F-8525759B.00106C45@usgs.gov>
	<OF92072B8B.CD53BFE9-ON8525759B.00521D9B-8525759B.00521DA0@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <49BF57CF89E84AE0B71D0395574BB310@flamdt01>

It's still 4gbps FC with the CNAs.

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin C Darby" <jcdarby at usgs.gov>
To: <chaz at chaz6.com>
Cc: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout


>
> AFAIK, 2x FC is 2.125 GBps (~200MB/s), we were quoting 4x FC as a
> comparison - 4.25GBps / ~400 MB/s.
>
> The 10GbE solution is a lot faster and at the time cost less than us
> deploying 4x FC. This was also a year ago. 4x FC was our top capability
> with Bladecenter H at the time.
>
> Justin
>
> -----cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net wrote: -----
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> From: Chris Hills
> Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> Date: 04/17/2009 04:51AM
> cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
>
> On 17/04/09 04:59, Justin C Darby wrote: > Step 10.5: Curse about how much
> 10GbE costs, then remember how much Fiber > Channel costs.  Yet still you
> do not hear of much use of Infiniband. I believe at the 2X  rate (i.e.
> 10Gbs) it is cheaper than 10GbE. Did you consider using it  when embarking
> upon your approach?  _______________________________________________
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From brhedlun at cisco.com  Fri Apr 17 12:27:02 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:27:02 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <49BF57CF89E84AE0B71D0395574BB310@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <C60E1806.33100%brhedlun@cisco.com>

True, for the current generation (Gen1) Emulex and Qlogic C-N-A's.
Gen2 adapters (available soon) are not restricted to 4gbps, there is more
flexibility up to the full 10G.

On 4/17/09 10:23 AM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:

> It's still 4gbps FC with the CNAs.



Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org


From gert at greenie.muc.de  Fri Apr 17 12:49:20 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:49:20 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] CPU utilization - "media converter" vs "bump in the
	cable"
In-Reply-To: <38154.69.30.17.85.1239908343.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
References: <38154.69.30.17.85.1239908343.squirrel@www.woofpaws.com>
Message-ID: <20090417164920.GX290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:59:03AM -0700, Rick Ernst wrote:
> I was a bit surprised to see that a 7206VXR/NPE-G1 running at the same CPU
> utilization on both an ethernet upstream with ~300mbs (in+out) running
> through it and an OC-3 upstream with about 100mbs through it.

GigE is wired directly to the CPU (part of the CPU, actually) while
PA modules are PCI based.

So it wouldn't surprise me if GigE based things take a lot less CPU on
the NPE-G1.

gert
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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 13:20:02 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:20:02 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
References: <C60E1806.33100%brhedlun@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <73C8458323674E879355A98BA28A910B@flamdt01>

Even when they do come out, there's won't be tons of benefit yet.  Most of 
the SANs I see today are 4gbps and are having a tough time justifying going 
to 8.

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
To: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net>; <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout


> True, for the current generation (Gen1) Emulex and Qlogic C-N-A's.
> Gen2 adapters (available soon) are not restricted to 4gbps, there is more
> flexibility up to the full 10G.
>
> On 4/17/09 10:23 AM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> It's still 4gbps FC with the CNAs.
>
>
>
> Brad Hedlund
> bhedlund at cisco.com
> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
> 


From brhedlun at cisco.com  Fri Apr 17 13:41:24 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:41:24 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <73C8458323674E879355A98BA28A910B@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <C60E2974.33116%brhedlun@cisco.com>

To your point, exceeding 4gbps per C-N-A is nice but doesn't top the list of
major benefits for Gen2.
What does top the list is a single chip architecture providing a smaller
size and lower power footprint, which also works nicely for blade server
mezzanine form factors.

Benefits for C-N-A's are largely centered around cost and efficiency
optimizations, rather than performance optimizations.


On 4/17/09 12:20 PM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:

> Even when they do come out, there's won't be tons of benefit yet.  Most of
> the SANs I see today are 4gbps and are having a tough time justifying going
> to 8.



Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org





From tvarriale at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 15:27:16 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:27:16 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
References: <C60E2974.33116%brhedlun@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <7CD18D03B4D44CFC86FD19E6C69C45F4@flamdt01>

Gen 1 already offers this. :)

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
To: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net>; <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout


> To your point, exceeding 4gbps per C-N-A is nice but doesn't top the list 
> of
> major benefits for Gen2.
> What does top the list is a single chip architecture providing a smaller
> size and lower power footprint, which also works nicely for blade server
> mezzanine form factors.
>
> Benefits for C-N-A's are largely centered around cost and efficiency
> optimizations, rather than performance optimizations.
>
>
> On 4/17/09 12:20 PM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Even when they do come out, there's won't be tons of benefit yet.  Most 
>> of
>> the SANs I see today are 4gbps and are having a tough time justifying 
>> going
>> to 8.
>
>
>
> Brad Hedlund
> bhedlund at cisco.com
> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>
>
>
> 


From brhedlun at cisco.com  Fri Apr 17 15:52:06 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:52:06 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <7CD18D03B4D44CFC86FD19E6C69C45F4@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <C60E4816.33152%brhedlun@cisco.com>

Not sure what you are specifically referring to but Gen1 C-N-A's are based
on 3 chip's (1) Eth, (1) FC, (1) DCE "Menlo".
As a result, Gen1 cards are long and do not fit in most 1RU systems.  The
power draw of the 3 chip design is around 21W.
Gen2 C-N-A's combine the functionality of all three chips into 1 custom
ASIC.  As a result Gen2's will fit in 1RU systems and power draw is in the
low teens.  Lots of buzz about this can be found on Emulex and Qlogic
websites.

The Emulex and Qlogic mezz C-N-A's initially available for Cisco UCS are
based on the Gen1 design.  Maybe that is what you are referring to?

Cheers,

Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org


On 4/17/09 2:27 PM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:

> Gen 1 already offers this. :)
> 
> tv



From justin at justinshore.com  Fri Apr 17 16:09:09 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:09:09 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] need help about switch cisco 4 9 4 8
In-Reply-To: <75032a710904161556m1590ec95jf09843eaae3db285@mail.gmail.com>
References: <753ED4F9715A45ABADBDB9DC23C1FCA8@int.convex.pt>	<28011.1317.qm@web57404.mail.re1.yahoo.com>	<5E3C7A341C9C41F5BD5FE75FC12704B1@int.convex.pt>	<49A030E9.5040009@kenweb.org>
	<75032a710904161556m1590ec95jf09843eaae3db285@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49E8E1E5.7020802@justinshore.com>

I've learned to always specify the full path to the image you want to 
load.  It's safer than assuming that rommon will find the image on its 
own on the assortment of drives that the newer, larger devices have 
these days.

Justin

Paul Zugnoni wrote:
> fwiw, (nearly 2 months later) on our 4948:
> "boot system flash cat4500-ipbasek9-mz.122-31.SGA8.bin" with a
> config-register of 0x2102 resulted in the switch booting into rommon mode,
> with an error message on the console that the device was not specified.
> 
> Upon removing that configuration statement and replacing it with the
> following one, the 4948 booted as expected:
> boot system flash bootflash:cat4500-ipbasek9-mz.122-31.SGA8.bin   << notice
> the specification of bootflash: in front of the image name.


From amsoares at netcabo.pt  Fri Apr 17 16:40:27 2009
From: amsoares at netcabo.pt (Antonio Soares)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:40:27 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops
In-Reply-To: <1239978703.3861.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1239910552.3608.36.camel@localhost.localdomain><20090417102043.GA80447@bts.sk><9683A1EFE9214446A78BDA9EA8AF79DC9DBDECAF@NEUBOS3ES816CLS.nunet.neu.edu>
	<1239978703.3861.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <8812BD4AE16D4601BA90D9938AE7E353@int.convex.pt>

I had the same type of problem weeks ago with 6704-10GE cards and i increased the input queue from the default to 2000 packets. But
even with this change, i'm still getting input drops:

+++++++++++++++++++++++
  Input queue: 0/2000/259854/259783 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 9766
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  30 second input rate 3422174000 bits/sec, 616164 packets/sec
  30 second output rate 4781032000 bits/sec, 752303 packets/sec
  L2 Switched: ucast: 3042490 pkt, 445190705 bytes - mcast: 701412 pkt, 55025811 bytes
  L3 in Switched: ucast: 1443288206417 pkt, 1002589303485288 bytes - mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
  L3 out Switched: ucast: 1777516490092 pkt, 1475677965625289 bytes mcast: 0 pkt, 0 bytes
     1443204358757 packets input, 1002494751199418 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 755421 broadcasts (701411 IP multicasts)
     0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     18 input errors, 9 CRC, 9 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     1777485270815 packets output, 1475594581103091 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
+++++++++++++++++++++++

And sometimes the IGP adjacency goes down and i only can correlate with these input drops. I'm running 12.2(18)SXF15a.

I have the impression that even using the maximum value allowed won't solve the issue.

I'm now thinking about adjusting the SPD values in order to, at least, avoid the IGP issue.

Comments are appreciated.



Thanks.

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
amsoares at netcabo.pt

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Peter Rathlev
Sent: sexta-feira, 17 de Abril de 2009 15:32
To: Dhingra, Anand; Marian ?urkovi?
Cc: cisco-nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:20 +0200, Marian ?urkovi? wrote:
> Input drops on L3 interfaces include also drops seen by the RP.
> These are not happening on the physical 10GE interface, but on the
> CPU's input queue. Try looking for traffic directed to the switch
> itself (SNMP, routing protocols etc) or traffic which is being punted
> to CPU for some reason.

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 09:41 -0400, Dhingra, Anand wrote:
> I am not sure why... but for some odd reason cisco only has a 75
> packet buffer per interface going to the CPU.

That was just the pieces of information I needed. I adjusted the hold-queue from 75 to 256 packets and the drops are now gone.

Only thing left is to find out what those bursts are that the switch punts. But I'm very glad that there was an (easy to understand)
explanation. :-)

Thank you both of you!

Regards,
Peter


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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Fri Apr 17 16:43:09 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:43:09 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
References: <C60E4816.33152%brhedlun@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <1607B013034B476DB444860E7B575546@flamdt01>

I honestly do not know anyone putting these into 1U systems.  But, part (but 
not all) of the reference is to UCS.

The inital green pitch on the CNA is that the SFP+ draws less power than x2 
or XENPAK.

Every server has to have a FC and *gig NIC.  At this point that's the 
savings along with one card.

The pitch to move from gen 1 to 2 to save another ~10W per card isn't being 
made yet.

Anyways, I believe the original discussion was about speed.

tv

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
To: "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net>; <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout


> Not sure what you are specifically referring to but Gen1 C-N-A's are based
> on 3 chip's (1) Eth, (1) FC, (1) DCE "Menlo".
> As a result, Gen1 cards are long and do not fit in most 1RU systems.  The
> power draw of the 3 chip design is around 21W.
> Gen2 C-N-A's combine the functionality of all three chips into 1 custom
> ASIC.  As a result Gen2's will fit in 1RU systems and power draw is in the
> low teens.  Lots of buzz about this can be found on Emulex and Qlogic
> websites.
>
> The Emulex and Qlogic mezz C-N-A's initially available for Cisco UCS are
> based on the Gen1 design.  Maybe that is what you are referring to?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brad Hedlund
> bhedlund at cisco.com
> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>
>
> On 4/17/09 2:27 PM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Gen 1 already offers this. :)
>>
>> tv
>
> 


From brhedlun at cisco.com  Fri Apr 17 17:16:43 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:16:43 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Nexus 5K FCoE to FC breakout
In-Reply-To: <1607B013034B476DB444860E7B575546@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <C60E5BEB.33169%brhedlun@cisco.com>



On 4/17/09 3:43 PM, "Tony Varriale" <tvarriale at comcast.net> wrote:

> I honestly do not know anyone putting these into 1U systems.

Primary reason for this is because current Gen1 C-N-A's simply do not fit in
1RU systems.  Where 2-4RU systems are purchased for the primary reason of
adapter real estate, the Gen2 C-N-A's offer a path to 1RU.

> The inital green pitch on the CNA is that the SFP+ draws less power than x2
> or XENPAK.

Not to mention less power in connecting to the server to one access layer
switch fabric, rather than two.

> The pitch to move from gen 1 to 2 to save another ~10W per card isn't being
> made yet.

Right, the pitch is largely: "same price, smaller, more capabilities, and oh
by the way, less power".

> Anyways, I believe the original discussion was about speed.

Of which there is no disadvantage in C-N-A's ... which lead us to this
tangent  :)



Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org



From neilding2000 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 17 22:04:17 2009
From: neilding2000 at gmail.com (Neil d)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:04:17 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp]  cisco command to show 10GE module type?
Message-ID: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the 6704-10GE
card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:

Cisco XENPAK-10GB-CX4: .
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LX4:
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LRM:
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-SR:
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LR / -LR+:
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ER / -ER+
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ZR:
? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LW (WAN PHY):

question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command to
check this instead of going onsite to check?

TIA/Neil

From wmaton at ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca  Fri Apr 17 22:10:04 2009
From: wmaton at ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca (William F. Maton Sotomayor)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:10:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904172209290.23208@ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca>

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Neil d wrote:

> Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the 6704-10GE
> card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:
[snip]
> question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command to
> check this instead of going onsite to check?

"show inventory" may help.

wfms

From neilding2000 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 17 22:14:41 2009
From: neilding2000 at gmail.com (Neil d)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:14:41 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0904172209290.23208@ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0904172209290.23208@ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca>
Message-ID: <68f87c470904171914k2cf5459dr1ebaa473c4458a65@mail.gmail.com>

no good, I've already tried this, but it only show you the linecard type in
each slot, what I want to know is the Xenpak module type in each 10GE port.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor <
wmaton at ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Neil d wrote:
>
> Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the
>> 6704-10GE
>> card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:
>>
> [snip]
>
>> question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command
>> to
>> check this instead of going onsite to check?
>>
>
> "show inventory" may help.
>
> wfms
>

From neilding2000 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 17 22:17:50 2009
From: neilding2000 at gmail.com (Neil d)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:17:50 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <68f87c470904171914k2cf5459dr1ebaa473c4458a65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0904172209290.23208@ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca>
	<68f87c470904171914k2cf5459dr1ebaa473c4458a65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68f87c470904171917w4c677a52pd50cd84fe7b2b942@mail.gmail.com>

oh, a show inventory raw seems work....

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Neil d <neilding2000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> no good, I've already tried this, but it only show you the linecard type in
> each slot, what I want to know is the Xenpak module type in each 10GE port.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM, William F. Maton Sotomayor <
> wmaton at ryouko.imsb.nrc.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Neil d wrote:
>>
>> Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the
>>> 6704-10GE
>>> card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:
>>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command
>>> to
>>> check this instead of going onsite to check?
>>>
>>
>> "show inventory" may help.
>>
>> wfms
>>
>
>

From rrichardson at iodatacenters.com  Fri Apr 17 22:20:20 2009
From: rrichardson at iodatacenters.com (Richardson, Robert)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:20:20 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57F018B226E004449B318DAF71A6014656F63D382D@IO-SCD-EX-M-01.corp.iodatacenters.com>

Try:

show interface status
show inventory

Thanks,

Robert M. Richardson

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Neil d
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:04 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?

Hi all,

Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the 6704-10GE
card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:

Cisco XENPAK-10GB-CX4: .
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LX4:
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LRM:
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-SR:
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LR / -LR+:
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ER / -ER+
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ZR:
* Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LW (WAN PHY):

question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command to
check this instead of going onsite to check?

TIA/Neil
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From engel.labiro at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 00:41:57 2009
From: engel.labiro at gmail.com (Engelhard Labiro)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:41:57 +0900
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FDF627EE-3BAC-4846-A3F8-EF5694F08380@gmail.com>

Use command "show int status"

Sent from my iPhone

On 2009/04/18, at 11:04, Neil d <neilding2000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the  
> 6704-10GE
> card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:
>
> Cisco XENPAK-10GB-CX4: .
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LX4:
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LRM:
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-SR:
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LR / -LR+:
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ER / -ER+
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ZR:
> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LW (WAN PHY):
>
> question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any  
> command to
> check this instead of going onsite to check?
>
> TIA/Neil
> _______________________________________________
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From ler762 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 06:22:53 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:22:53 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops
In-Reply-To: <8812BD4AE16D4601BA90D9938AE7E353@int.convex.pt>
References: <1239910552.3608.36.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20090417102043.GA80447@bts.sk>
	<9683A1EFE9214446A78BDA9EA8AF79DC9DBDECAF@NEUBOS3ES816CLS.nunet.neu.edu>
	<1239978703.3861.38.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<8812BD4AE16D4601BA90D9938AE7E353@int.convex.pt>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904180322g4fd8e939hbf1508771e6571e@mail.gmail.com>

We weren't losing adjacencies, but were seeing lots of input queue
drops on a few 6704 ports configured as layer3 interfaces.  Bumping
the input queue size up to 4096 didn't make any difference, nor did
changing the input queue size on all vlan+L3 interfaces to 4096 (which
should have automatically adjusted spd thresholds) make any
difference.  But adding this got rid of almost all the drops:
  ip spd queue max-threshold 1000
  ip spd queue min-threshold 998

I don't remember getting an answer from Cisco about why the spd
thresholds weren't automatically adjusted on a 6500.  I tried changing
the input q size on all interfaces on a 7200 & spd thresholds were
automatically adjusted.  Dunno why it doesn't work on a 6500.

Lee


On 4/17/09, Antonio Soares <amsoares at netcabo.pt> wrote:
> I had the same type of problem weeks ago with 6704-10GE cards and i
> increased the input queue from the default to 2000 packets. But
> even with this change, i'm still getting input drops:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
>   Input queue: 0/2000/259854/259783 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output
> drops: 9766
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
>   30 second input rate 3422174000 bits/sec, 616164 packets/sec
>   30 second output rate 4781032000 bits/sec, 752303 packets/sec
>   L2 Switched: ucast: 3042490 pkt, 445190705 bytes - mcast: 701412 pkt,
> 55025811 bytes
>   L3 in Switched: ucast: 1443288206417 pkt, 1002589303485288 bytes - mcast:
> 0 pkt, 0 bytes mcast
>   L3 out Switched: ucast: 1777516490092 pkt, 1475677965625289 bytes mcast: 0
> pkt, 0 bytes
>      1443204358757 packets input, 1002494751199418 bytes, 0 no buffer
>      Received 755421 broadcasts (701411 IP multicasts)
>      0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>      18 input errors, 9 CRC, 9 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
>      0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
>      0 input packets with dribble condition detected
>      1777485270815 packets output, 1475594581103091 bytes, 0 underruns
>      0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
>      0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
>      0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 PAUSE output
>      0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> And sometimes the IGP adjacency goes down and i only can correlate with
> these input drops. I'm running 12.2(18)SXF15a.
>
> I have the impression that even using the maximum value allowed won't solve
> the issue.
>
> I'm now thinking about adjusting the SPD values in order to, at least, avoid
> the IGP issue.
>
> Comments are appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares at netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Peter Rathlev
> Sent: sexta-feira, 17 de Abril de 2009 15:32
> To: Dhingra, Anand; Marian ?urkovi?
> Cc: cisco-nsp
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] C6k 6708 Input drops
>
> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 12:20 +0200, Marian ?urkovi? wrote:
>> Input drops on L3 interfaces include also drops seen by the RP.
>> These are not happening on the physical 10GE interface, but on the
>> CPU's input queue. Try looking for traffic directed to the switch
>> itself (SNMP, routing protocols etc) or traffic which is being punted
>> to CPU for some reason.
>
> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 09:41 -0400, Dhingra, Anand wrote:
>> I am not sure why... but for some odd reason cisco only has a 75
>> packet buffer per interface going to the CPU.
>
> That was just the pieces of information I needed. I adjusted the hold-queue
> from 75 to 256 packets and the drops are now gone.
>
> Only thing left is to find out what those bursts are that the switch punts.
> But I'm very glad that there was an (easy to understand)
> explanation. :-)
>
> Thank you both of you!
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
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From nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 10:21:09 2009
From: nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com (Nick Griffin)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:21:09 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <FDF627EE-3BAC-4846-A3F8-EF5694F08380@gmail.com>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
	<FDF627EE-3BAC-4846-A3F8-EF5694F08380@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a2b352c40904180721p612a082fgce4df3e359cae47d@mail.gmail.com>

can you use "show interface capabilities"?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Engelhard Labiro
<engel.labiro at gmail.com>wrote:

> Use command "show int status"
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 2009/04/18, at 11:04, Neil d <neilding2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the
>> 6704-10GE
>> card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:
>>
>> Cisco XENPAK-10GB-CX4: .
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LX4:
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LRM:
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-SR:
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LR / -LR+:
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ER / -ER+
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ZR:
>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LW (WAN PHY):
>>
>> question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command
>> to
>> check this instead of going onsite to check?
>>
>> TIA/Neil
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From pwu828 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 18 15:39:10 2009
From: pwu828 at gmail.com (PW)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 05:39:10 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] RSTP Learning State
Message-ID: <a7c61c610904181239v7d54e50fya0ca36673712c830@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

It would be great if someone can help me out here...

I've got a situation here with 4 switches (a mix of 2960/3550), all running
RSTP (rapid-pvst). The setup:

Switch C --------- Switch B ======= Switch A
 |                     |
 |                     |
Switch D --------------|

Basically a triangle setup BCD, and a dual link between AB.

Switch A is the root, and when the primary link between AB fails, the root
port of B goes down, transitions to ALT link almost instanteously.

However, the spanning tree recalculation that occurs in the triangle BCD
baffles me... I see links between Switch B, C and D transitions into the
Learning state for 15 seconds!
I thought RSTP should be sub-second failover for P2P links, so I'm not sure
why this 15 seconds is coming up...

The spanning tree state under normal operation:

Switch A:
Fa0/1           Desg FWD 36        128.1   P2p  (Secondary to B)
Fa0/2           Desg FWD 4         128.2   P2p  (Primary to B)

Switch B:
Fa0/1           Desg FWD 5000      128.1   P2p  (to D)
Fa0/2           Altn BLK 200       128.2   P2p  (Secondary to A)
Fa0/3           Root FWD 5         128.3   P2p  (Primary to A)
Fa0/4           Desg FWD 19        128.4   P2p  (to C)

Switch C:
Fa0/1           Altn BLK 200       128.1   P2p  (to D)
Fa0/2           Root FWD 10        128.2   P2p  (to B)

Switch D:
Fa0/1           Desg FWD 400       128.1   P2p  (to C)
Fa0/2           Root FWD 10        128.2   P2p  (to B)

There is nothing fancy about the RSTP configuration but setting port costs
to reflect the desired primary path.
Ports are all trunk ports, without "spanning-tree portfast trunk"
configured.

My questions are:
 - Why are the ports in Learning state for 15 secs?
 - Is it possible to reduce/eliminate this 15 secs?

Any help will be much appreciated!

Thanks.

PW

From jensenja at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 02:37:38 2009
From: jensenja at gmail.com (John Jensen)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:37:38 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] cisco command to show 10GE module type?
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904180721p612a082fgce4df3e359cae47d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <68f87c470904171904w7aa4ce04x492c728bd9c8baef@mail.gmail.com>
	<FDF627EE-3BAC-4846-A3F8-EF5694F08380@gmail.com>
	<a2b352c40904180721p612a082fgce4df3e359cae47d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6de481d10904182337r43330883qe0ae45b5a0195c6d@mail.gmail.com>

"show int status" will give you the transceiver type, if you want more
gory details, you can use "show idprom int x/x" which will give you
the serial and more info of a particular transceiver.

-JJ

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Nick Griffin
<nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com> wrote:
> can you use "show interface capabilities"?
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Engelhard Labiro
> <engel.labiro at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Use command "show int status"
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On 2009/04/18, at 11:04, Neil d <neilding2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is there any command to show what kind of Xenpak 10G module in the
>>> 6704-10GE
>>> card? from cisco website, there're a bunch of them:
>>>
>>> Cisco XENPAK-10GB-CX4: .
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LX4:
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LRM:
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-SR:
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LR / -LR+:
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ER / -ER+
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-ZR:
>>> ? Cisco XENPAK-10GB-LW (WAN PHY):
>>>
>>> question is, how do I know which type is installed in the LC? any command
>>> to
>>> check this instead of going onsite to check?
>>>
>>> TIA/Neil
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> cisco-nsp mailing list ?cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>>
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From jensenja at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 03:05:30 2009
From: jensenja at gmail.com (John Jensen)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:05:30 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] C6kSup720 "LAN ONLY" vs. "WAN"
In-Reply-To: <1239908737.3608.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1239908737.3608.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <6de481d10904190005n3d8aa34aj42c9bf909bfd7920@mail.gmail.com>

I checked Cisco's feature navigator and couldn't find any differences
in supported features between the images, so maybe the differences are
only in hardware support.

-JJ

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Peter Rathlev <peter at rathlev.dk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could anybody explain to me where I can find some official documentation
> about the differences between a "LAN ONLY" and a WAN image for the
> Sup720? E.g. the difference between these two images:
>
> s72033-advipservicesk9-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin
> s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin
>
> The former is a meagre 59MB where the latter takes up 90MB. I've assumed
> that certain WAN modules like OSM cannot run in the "LAN ONLY" image,
> but I'd love to know where I could know exactly what can and cannot run
> in the "LAN ONLY" image.
>
> Thank you.
> Peter
>
>
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From jensenja at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 03:12:08 2009
From: jensenja at gmail.com (John Jensen)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:12:08 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>

I was under the impression that the "service tcp-keepalives-in" and
"service tcp-keepalives-out" commands will prevent this from happening
to your VTYs.

-JJ

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Lee <ler762 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/16/09, Eric Van Tol <eric at atlantech.net> wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
>>> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dracul
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 AM
>>> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
>>>
>>> If you are running a critical network without the convenience of
>>> rebooting,
>>> Jim's Router# cle ip tcp tcb 58F2E668 worked for me
>>>
>>> but take note some IOS use the Router#clear tcp tcb ?(without the 'ip')
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> chris
>>
>> If you can't gain access to the CLI, it is possible to reset vty TCP
>> sessions using SNMP, assuming you have a read-write string configured on the
>> device. ?I personally don't know the procedure, but there are tools out
>> there such as the Solarwinds Engineers Edition toolset that let you do this.
>> ?If anyone knows the right procedure, maybe they can post it here.
>
> How to Detect and Clear Hung TCP Connections using SNMP
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_problem_troubleshooting09186a00802b93ef.shtml
> _______________________________________________
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From achatz at forthnet.gr  Sun Apr 19 08:34:07 2009
From: achatz at forthnet.gr (Tassos Chatzithomaoglou)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:34:07 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] C6kSup720 "LAN ONLY" vs. "WAN"
In-Reply-To: <6de481d10904190005n3d8aa34aj42c9bf909bfd7920@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1239908737.3608.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<6de481d10904190005n3d8aa34aj42c9bf909bfd7920@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EB1A3F.80509@forthnet.gr>

According to Software Advisor you need the wan image for OSM cards (like you said).
Interestingly enough, SIPs/SPAs do not seem to need it. Nevertheless, it's hard to believe 
that OSMs are responsible for the additional 33% of -compressed- code!

-- 
Tassos

John Jensen wrote on 19/04/2009 10:05:
> I checked Cisco's feature navigator and couldn't find any differences
> in supported features between the images, so maybe the differences are
> only in hardware support.
> 
> -JJ
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Peter Rathlev <peter at rathlev.dk> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Could anybody explain to me where I can find some official documentation
>> about the differences between a "LAN ONLY" and a WAN image for the
>> Sup720? E.g. the difference between these two images:
>>
>> s72033-advipservicesk9-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin
>> s72033-advipservicesk9_wan-mz.122-33.SXI1.bin
>>
>> The former is a meagre 59MB where the latter takes up 90MB. I've assumed
>> that certain WAN modules like OSM cannot run in the "LAN ONLY" image,
>> but I'd love to know where I could know exactly what can and cannot run
>> in the "LAN ONLY" image.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From ler762 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 08:53:48 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 08:53:48 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/19/09, John Jensen <jensenja at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was under the impression that the "service tcp-keepalives-in" and
> "service tcp-keepalives-out" commands will prevent this from happening
> to your VTYs.

No necessarily.  Tcp keepalives will only kill a connection if the
other side doesn't answer.  But what happens when your Ciscoworks
machine has a bad script that never exits?  Every <however many>
minutes it ssh's in and leaves the connection open.  Router sends a
keepalive, CW answers, VTY stays open.  After a while all the VTYs are
in use..

What I'd like to know is what extra protection "service
tcp-keepalives-in" gives you that the exec-timeout on the VTYs
doesn't.

Lee


>
> -JJ
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Lee <ler762 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/16/09, Eric Van Tol <eric at atlantech.net> wrote:
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
>>>> bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dracul
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:19 AM
>>>> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
>>>>
>>>> If you are running a critical network without the convenience of
>>>> rebooting,
>>>> Jim's Router# cle ip tcp tcb 58F2E668 worked for me
>>>>
>>>> but take note some IOS use the Router#clear tcp tcb  (without the 'ip')
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> chris
>>>
>>> If you can't gain access to the CLI, it is possible to reset vty TCP
>>> sessions using SNMP, assuming you have a read-write string configured on
>>> the
>>> device.  I personally don't know the procedure, but there are tools out
>>> there such as the Solarwinds Engineers Edition toolset that let you do
>>> this.
>>>  If anyone knows the right procedure, maybe they can post it here.
>>
>> How to Detect and Clear Hung TCP Connections using SNMP
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk362/technologies_problem_troubleshooting09186a00802b93ef.shtml
>> _______________________________________________
>> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
>> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>>

From peter at rathlev.dk  Sun Apr 19 09:25:51 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:25:51 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] C6kSup720 "LAN ONLY" vs. "WAN"
In-Reply-To: <49EB1A3F.80509@forthnet.gr>
References: <1239908737.3608.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<6de481d10904190005n3d8aa34aj42c9bf909bfd7920@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EB1A3F.80509@forthnet.gr>
Message-ID: <1240147551.3574.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:34 +0300, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
> According to Software Advisor you need the wan image for OSM cards
> (like you said). Interestingly enough, SIPs/SPAs do not seem to need
> it. Nevertheless, it's hard to believe that OSMs are responsible for
> the additional 33% of -compressed- code!

I tried asking our SE and he replied that FlexWAN, FlexWAN Enhanced,
OSM, SIP and IPSec SPA all need the WAN images. No link for any
documentation stating this though. :-|

But do SIP cards work in "LAN ONLY" images?

Regards,
Peter



From ross at kallisti.us  Sun Apr 19 10:47:40 2009
From: ross at kallisti.us (Ross Vandegrift)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 10:47:40 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] RSTP Learning State
In-Reply-To: <a7c61c610904181239v7d54e50fya0ca36673712c830@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a7c61c610904181239v7d54e50fya0ca36673712c830@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090419144740.GA12025@kallisti.us>

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 05:39:10AM +1000, PW wrote:
> Switch A is the root, and when the primary link between AB fails, the root
> port of B goes down, transitions to ALT link almost instanteously.
> 
> However, the spanning tree recalculation that occurs in the triangle BCD
> baffles me... I see links between Switch B, C and D transitions into the
> Learning state for 15 seconds!
> I thought RSTP should be sub-second failover for P2P links, so I'm not sure
> why this 15 seconds is coming up...

A useful analogy is given in 802.1D.  When the root priority of a
bridge changes, a cut is placed in the network at all of the non-root
ports on the bridge that changed.  Each iteration of the STP vector
propogation process pushes the cut out to the next bridge.  This
process repeats until it reaches the edge ports of the extended LAN.

For each port, the bridge computes a vector that represents that
port's priority to be the root port.  When you change Switch A's root
port, the priority vector for the downstream ports changes, meaning
that the downstream bridges need to engage loop prevention to ensure
that any loops in the new topology are detected before bringing the
ports into the forwarding state.

> My questions are:
>  - Why are the ports in Learning state for 15 secs?
>  - Is it possible to reduce/eliminate this 15 secs?

The delay is crucial for STP's ability to detect and migitage
transient loops that may form during the computation of the new
logical topology.  You could try tuning your forward delay (the unit
of time STP delays before moving forward in the port state machine),
but you need to be careful.  Too short, and you'll have ports moving
to forwarding before the loops are removed.

Looking at your topology, it doesn't make much sense for Switch A to
be the root.  Think about the analogy given above - you want to
minimize the maximal distance from the root bridge to the edge ports.
That'll reduce your total convergence time.  Switch B is just extra
distance toward the root.

To understand why STP has this behavior, imagine that Switch C had a
backup link to Switch A.  In this case, Switch C needs to be careful
about its root port.  Switch C and Switch B need to make sure they
agree on what the port states should be, else you'll cause a loop
between A, B, and C.

-- 
Ross Vandegrift
ross at kallisti.us

"If the fight gets hot, the songs get hotter.  If the going gets tough,
the songs get tougher."
	--Woody Guthrie

From danletkeman at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 14:07:55 2009
From: danletkeman at gmail.com (Dan Letkeman)
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:07:55 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] 2821 hardware compatibility
Message-ID: <dcbb85870904191107w66a7df0epa06fc72355af1ba7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I'm looking at putting in some WIC-1ADSL cards into a 2821 router.  I
would need to put in 6 of them, but the 2821 only has 4 onboard slots
and I was wondering if the NM-2E2W is compatible with a 2821 router so
I can add the last two?

Thanks
Dan.

From dale.shaw+cisco-nsp at gmail.com  Sun Apr 19 19:53:33 2009
From: dale.shaw+cisco-nsp at gmail.com (Dale Shaw)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:53:33 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Lee,

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Lee <ler762 at gmail.com> wrote:
> What I'd like to know is what extra protection "service
> tcp-keepalives-in" gives you that the exec-timeout on the VTYs
> doesn't.

Hmm, I guess it might come in useful if you're accessing the vty line
via a firewall with particularly aggressive idle TCP session timers?

Having said that though, it's not like "service tcp-keepalives
(in|out)" can be tuned. The DocCD is quiet on how often the keepalives
are sent, too.

Old thread: http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2004-July/011508.html
 <--- is that you? :-)

cheers,
Dale

From zardoz at hotblack.net  Sun Apr 19 20:56:33 2009
From: zardoz at hotblack.net (Tristan Gulyas)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:56:33 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Easy way to configure/build new switches?
Message-ID: <BB7784D8CA6E485BAC1BDF5F967EB97E@moscato>

Hi all,

We currently do a lot of provisioning of new Cisco 3750G switches.  This 
seems to be a progressive, ongoing thing.

At present, when we receive a new switch, we need to:

* Upgrade firmware (currently 12.2(50)SE crypto, switches typically ship 
with 12.2(35)SE5)
* Place our config on the switch
* Configure vlan for management, IP address for management
* Set first switch in stack to priority 15 (not in the config in a "show 
run")
* Confgure VTP
* Change SDM template for dual IPv4/IPv6.
* Configure uplinks (and optionally downlinks)

At present, we do a lot of copying/pasting from a template page which is 
prone to error.  Upgrading the firmware on these switches is also tedious 
and slow.

Is there a tool or method we could use to quick provision these switches, 
say, if we could automatically get the new firmware/config template from a 
TFTP server?  What concerns me is the lines that aren't actually present in 
the config, i.e. stack priority settings and VTP.

thanks,
Tristan


From hsa at ntt.net.id  Mon Apr 20 00:11:41 2009
From: hsa at ntt.net.id (Henry Sarumpaet)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:11:41 +0700
Subject: [c-nsp] Feature support.
Message-ID: <49EBF5FD.9060100@ntt.net.id>

Hi all,
In case some cisco folks hanging around,
does anyone know does cisco will support SPA-8X1FE-TX-V2 with etherchannel ?
its a expensive card anyway  :) 


--
regards
hsa


From skeeve at eintellego.net  Mon Apr 20 01:21:57 2009
From: skeeve at eintellego.net (Skeeve Stevens)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:21:57 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
Message-ID: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>

Hey All,

I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no GigE.

I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.

Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot on a Cisco.

...Skeeve

--
Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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From ltd at cisco.com  Mon Apr 20 02:29:42 2009
From: ltd at cisco.com (Lincoln Dale)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:29:42 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
Message-ID: <49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>

Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no GigE.
>
> I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.
>
> Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot on a Cisco.
>   
Steve,

you'd not understanding layer 1 here.

 * GBIC, X2, SFP, Xenpak, SFP+, XFP are transceiver types.
 * LC/SC are cable connector types for optics
 * MM (FDDI grade, OM1, OM2, OM3), SM are fiber types.

SFP is generally used for gigabit (1G), X2 is generally used for 10G.
from a cabling perspective if this is all local within a single site 
then generally it would be MM fiber, if its new, suggest you go with OM3.
can't remember connector type on X2, think its SC like a GBIC?  if so, 
then a LC/SC patch will connect the two.

but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in, which implies 
something on the Cisco end that is SFP+, X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.


cheers,

lincoln.



From peter at rathlev.dk  Mon Apr 20 02:35:18 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:35:18 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1240209318.3386.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 09:53 +1000, Dale Shaw wrote:
> Having said that though, it's not like "service tcp-keepalives
> (in|out)" can be tuned. The DocCD is quiet on how often the keepalives
> are sent, too.

By default TCP keep-alives should be in at least 2 hour intervals as per
RFC 1122 4.2.3.6; I think most implementations follow this.

But same RFC says that the interval MUST be configurable. :-)

Regards,
Peter



From phil.pierotti at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 02:37:51 2009
From: phil.pierotti at gmail.com (Phil Pierotti)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:37:51 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>

I'm guessing that Skeeve is looking for the HP equivalent of this delightful
module from Cisco:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7077/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bbee3.html

Phil P

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com> wrote:

> Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no
>> GigE.
>>
>> I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.
>>
>> Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices
>> that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot on a
>> Cisco.
>>
>>
> Steve,
>
> you'd not understanding layer 1 here.
>
> * GBIC, X2, SFP, Xenpak, SFP+, XFP are transceiver types.
> * LC/SC are cable connector types for optics
> * MM (FDDI grade, OM1, OM2, OM3), SM are fiber types.
>
> SFP is generally used for gigabit (1G), X2 is generally used for 10G.
> from a cabling perspective if this is all local within a single site then
> generally it would be MM fiber, if its new, suggest you go with OM3.
> can't remember connector type on X2, think its SC like a GBIC?  if so, then
> a LC/SC patch will connect the two.
>
> but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in, which implies
> something on the Cisco end that is SFP+, X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> lincoln.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>

From ltd at cisco.com  Mon Apr 20 02:58:47 2009
From: ltd at cisco.com (Lincoln Dale)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:58:47 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <200904201452.44559.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<200904201452.44559.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
Message-ID: <49EC1D27.5000702@cisco.com>

Mark Tinka wrote:
> On Monday 20 April 2009 02:29:42 pm Lincoln Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in,
>> which implies something on the Cisco end that is SFP+,
>> X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.
>>     
>       ^^^
>       ^^^ <= guessing you meant XFP :-).
>   
forgot the + on SFP+. :)


cheers,

lincoln.


From skeeve at eintellego.net  Mon Apr 20 03:11:21 2009
From: skeeve at eintellego.net (Skeeve Stevens)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:11:21 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B3@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>

That is EXACTLY what I am looking for!

Basically.. How do I get a HP Switch with 6 * 10GbE X2 slots into a normal Cisco GigE network...

...Skeeve

--
Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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From: Phil Pierotti [mailto:phil.pierotti at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 4:38 PM
To: Lincoln Dale
Cc: Skeeve Stevens; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE

I'm guessing that Skeeve is looking for the HP equivalent of this delightful module from Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7077/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bbee3.html

Phil P
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com<mailto:ltd at cisco.com>> wrote:
Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Hey All,

I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no GigE.

I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.

Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot on a Cisco.

Steve,

you'd not understanding layer 1 here.

* GBIC, X2, SFP, Xenpak, SFP+, XFP are transceiver types.
* LC/SC are cable connector types for optics
* MM (FDDI grade, OM1, OM2, OM3), SM are fiber types.

SFP is generally used for gigabit (1G), X2 is generally used for 10G.
from a cabling perspective if this is all local within a single site then generally it would be MM fiber, if its new, suggest you go with OM3.
can't remember connector type on X2, think its SC like a GBIC?  if so, then a LC/SC patch will connect the two.

but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in, which implies something on the Cisco end that is SFP+, X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.


cheers,

lincoln.



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From ltd at cisco.com  Mon Apr 20 03:13:51 2009
From: ltd at cisco.com (Lincoln Dale)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:13:51 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B3@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B3@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
Message-ID: <49EC20AF.5000105@cisco.com>

deploy a Cisco 10G switch?
if you're after an access switch for the datacenter, Nexus 5010 isn't a 
bad place to start.  under $1K/port for 20 x line rate 10G ports.


cheers,

lincoln.

Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
> That is EXACTLY what I am looking for!
>
>  
>
> Basically.. How do I get a HP Switch with 6 * 10GbE X2 slots into a 
> normal Cisco GigE network...
>
>  
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>  
>
> --
>
> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>
> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
>
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>
> --
>
> NOC, NOC, who's there?
>
>  
>
> Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for 
> the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private 
> proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly 
> or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of 
> this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd 
> and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies 
> reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its 
> networks.  Any views expressed in this message are those of the 
> individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the 
> sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. 
> Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and 
> variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in 
> writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst 
> all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we 
> cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with 
> your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or 
> computer problems experienced.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Phil Pierotti [mailto:phil.pierotti at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 20 April 2009 4:38 PM
> *To:* Lincoln Dale
> *Cc:* Skeeve Stevens; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
>
>  
>
> I'm guessing that Skeeve is looking for the HP equivalent of this 
> delightful module from Cisco:
>
>  
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7077/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bbee3.html
>
>  
>
> Phil P
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com 
> <mailto:ltd at cisco.com>> wrote:
>
> Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 
> - no GigE.
>
> I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.
>
> Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices 
> that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot 
> on a Cisco.
>  
>
> Steve,
>
> you'd not understanding layer 1 here.
>
> * GBIC, X2, SFP, Xenpak, SFP+, XFP are transceiver types.
> * LC/SC are cable connector types for optics
> * MM (FDDI grade, OM1, OM2, OM3), SM are fiber types.
>
> SFP is generally used for gigabit (1G), X2 is generally used for 10G.
> from a cabling perspective if this is all local within a single site 
> then generally it would be MM fiber, if its new, suggest you go with OM3.
> can't remember connector type on X2, think its SC like a GBIC?  if so, 
> then a LC/SC patch will connect the two.
>
> but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in, which 
> implies something on the Cisco end that is SFP+, X2, SFP, Xenpak. 
>  i.e. NOT SFP.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> lincoln.
>
>
>
>
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From skeeve at eintellego.net  Mon Apr 20 03:15:13 2009
From: skeeve at eintellego.net (Skeeve Stevens)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:15:13 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
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Actually, what are the chance of these working in a HP?

Btw... the switch I am looking at is the HP ProCurve Switch 6410cl

I know this is a Cisco list, but I am wanting to put this into a Cisco network and need to uplink it into 3560G's

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From: Phil Pierotti [mailto:phil.pierotti at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 4:38 PM
To: Lincoln Dale
Cc: Skeeve Stevens; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE

I'm guessing that Skeeve is looking for the HP equivalent of this delightful module from Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7077/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bbee3.html

Phil P
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com<mailto:ltd at cisco.com>> wrote:
Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Hey All,

I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no GigE.

I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.

Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot on a Cisco.

Steve,

you'd not understanding layer 1 here.

* GBIC, X2, SFP, Xenpak, SFP+, XFP are transceiver types.
* LC/SC are cable connector types for optics
* MM (FDDI grade, OM1, OM2, OM3), SM are fiber types.

SFP is generally used for gigabit (1G), X2 is generally used for 10G.
from a cabling perspective if this is all local within a single site then generally it would be MM fiber, if its new, suggest you go with OM3.
can't remember connector type on X2, think its SC like a GBIC?  if so, then a LC/SC patch will connect the two.

but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in, which implies something on the Cisco end that is SFP+, X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.


cheers,

lincoln.



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From skeeve at eintellego.net  Mon Apr 20 03:22:03 2009
From: skeeve at eintellego.net (Skeeve Stevens)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:22:03 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <49EC20AF.5000105@cisco.com>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
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Yeah nice switch... would love it, but way way too over budget for this project.... and only need 4-5 ports...

So 9k vs 20k

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From: Lincoln Dale [mailto:ltd at cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 5:14 PM
To: Skeeve Stevens
Cc: Phil Pierotti; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE

deploy a Cisco 10G switch?
if you're after an access switch for the datacenter, Nexus 5010 isn't a bad place to start.  under $1K/port for 20 x line rate 10G ports.


cheers,

lincoln.

Skeeve Stevens wrote:
That is EXACTLY what I am looking for!

Basically.. How do I get a HP Switch with 6 * 10GbE X2 slots into a normal Cisco GigE network...

...Skeeve

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From: Phil Pierotti [mailto:phil.pierotti at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 4:38 PM
To: Lincoln Dale
Cc: Skeeve Stevens; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE

I'm guessing that Skeeve is looking for the HP equivalent of this delightful module from Cisco:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7077/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bbee3.html

Phil P
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com<mailto:ltd at cisco.com>> wrote:
Skeeve Stevens wrote:
Hey All,

I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no GigE.

I want to uplink this into a Cisco switch - SFP slot.

Since Cisco uses X2 as well, I am wondering if there is any X2 devices that I can put into the HP that can cross connect into a SFP GigE slot on a Cisco.

Steve,

you'd not understanding layer 1 here.

* GBIC, X2, SFP, Xenpak, SFP+, XFP are transceiver types.
* LC/SC are cable connector types for optics
* MM (FDDI grade, OM1, OM2, OM3), SM are fiber types.

SFP is generally used for gigabit (1G), X2 is generally used for 10G.
from a cabling perspective if this is all local within a single site then generally it would be MM fiber, if its new, suggest you go with OM3.
can't remember connector type on X2, think its SC like a GBIC?  if so, then a LC/SC patch will connect the two.

but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in, which implies something on the Cisco end that is SFP+, X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.


cheers,

lincoln.



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From sethm at rollernet.us  Mon Apr 20 03:30:28 2009
From: sethm at rollernet.us (Seth Mattinen)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:30:28 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
Message-ID: <49EC2494.3090909@rollernet.us>

Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Actually, what are the chance of these working in a HP?
> 

None. It looks like a converter, but it's not, it's a convenience to
access wiring on the backplane Cisco added to let you use this module
until you're ready for 10 gig.

~Seth

From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Mon Apr 20 02:52:43 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:52:43 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <200904201452.44559.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

On Monday 20 April 2009 02:29:42 pm Lincoln Dale wrote:

> but you'd probably need a 10G interface to connect it in,
> which implies something on the Cisco end that is SFP+,
> X2, SFP, Xenpak.  i.e. NOT SFP.
      ^^^
      ^^^ <= guessing you meant XFP :-).

Cheers,

Mark.
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From zivl at gilat.net  Mon Apr 20 03:35:38 2009
From: zivl at gilat.net (Ziv Leyes)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:35:38 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Easy way to configure/build new switches?
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References: <BB7784D8CA6E485BAC1BDF5F967EB97E@moscato>
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It's all possible to do with TFTP, you could load the firmware and startup-config to a TFTP server, then from the new switch pull them both, but it will still have to be quite "interactive" with someone that knows how to do it.







-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tristan Gulyas
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:57 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Easy way to configure/build new switches?

Hi all,

We currently do a lot of provisioning of new Cisco 3750G switches.  This 
seems to be a progressive, ongoing thing.

At present, when we receive a new switch, we need to:

* Upgrade firmware (currently 12.2(50)SE crypto, switches typically ship 
with 12.2(35)SE5)
* Place our config on the switch
* Configure vlan for management, IP address for management
* Set first switch in stack to priority 15 (not in the config in a "show 
run")
* Confgure VTP
* Change SDM template for dual IPv4/IPv6.
* Configure uplinks (and optionally downlinks)

At present, we do a lot of copying/pasting from a template page which is 
prone to error.  Upgrading the firmware on these switches is also tedious 
and slow.

Is there a tool or method we could use to quick provision these switches, 
say, if we could automatically get the new firmware/config template from a 
TFTP server?  What concerns me is the lines that aren't actually present in 
the config, i.e. stack priority settings and VTP.

thanks,
Tristan

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From zivl at gilat.net  Mon Apr 20 03:40:28 2009
From: zivl at gilat.net (Ziv Leyes)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:40:28 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP
In-Reply-To: <d9281f5c0904141645y27839a20u73f57ef9b1571e6f@mail.gmail.com>
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One possible option is to peer with your country's internet exchange point where all other "local" internet providers might be peering to as well, this way, the "local" traffic would be always preferred via the IX peer, and all the rest is aparently "international" therefore going out to your international ISP



-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Burak Dikici
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:46 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Classify geographical traffic with BGP

   Hello ,

  I have got one internet router running BGP , and this router has got
connections with two different ISPs. One of the ISP is local for my country
and the other ISP's location is outside of my country. I want to classify
geographical traffic with BGP. For example , local traffic to my country
will go through ISP-1 (local ISP) , outside traffic to my country will go
through ISP-2 (outside of my country ISP). What i have to do to achieve that
kind of configuration ? If i have to use AS path filter , how can i find the
local ISP AS path numbers and how can i configure AS path filter for this
request ? Is that enough using the as-path filter just for the national ISP
or should i use it for international ISP also ?

  If i use AS-path filter for both ISP connections , what will happen to
redundancy ? I mean , for example i filter national AS numbers at the
international ISP connection and deny them. Secondly , i filter national AS
numbers at the national ISP connection , permit them and the other AS
numbers will be denied. In this situation , what will happen if the local
ISP connection goes down ? Because of filtering of the national AS numbers
at the international ISP connection , the BGP table doesn't take any updates
from the local AS numbers. I hope , i could explain the situation correctly.


Kind Regards...

Burak Dikici
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From jcovini at free.fr  Mon Apr 20 03:50:33 2009
From: jcovini at free.fr (jcovini at free.fr)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:50:33 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
Message-ID: <1240213833.49ec294941657@imp.free.fr>

Selon Skeeve Stevens <skeeve at eintellego.net>:

> Hey All,
>
> I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no
> GigE.

Why not using a Procurve 5406 with some J8707A modules (x4 port 10G slots) and 
J8436A transceivers (10-GbE X2-SC SR Optics), which runs fine with 50u MMF ?

Jerome Covini

From gert at greenie.muc.de  Mon Apr 20 08:19:50 2009
From: gert at greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:19:50 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
Message-ID: <20090420121950.GK290@greenie.muc.de>

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 05:15:13PM +1000, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Actually, what are the chance of these working in a HP?

Zero.  Cisco twingig is using extra conncetions in the X2 slot for the
gigE connections.

gert
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From clinton at scripty.com  Mon Apr 20 09:42:58 2009
From: clinton at scripty.com (Clinton Work)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:42:58 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>


Sound like a bug similiar to CSCee62455.  From experience with the bug, 
once all the VTY lines are locked up, the console port would not respond 
either.  The only way to clear the VTY lines was with SNMP, but it would 
cause crashes from time to time.  "service tcp-keepaliaves in/out" 
didn't help either. 

Clinton. 

Dale Shaw wrote:
> Hmm, I guess it might come in useful if you're accessing the vty line
> via a firewall with particularly aggressive idle TCP session timers?
>
> Having said that though, it's not like "service tcp-keepalives
> (in|out)" can be tuned. The DocCD is quiet on how often the keepalives
> are sent, too.
>
>   


From servet.erkun at doruk.net.tr  Mon Apr 20 09:55:30 2009
From: servet.erkun at doruk.net.tr (=?iso-8859-9?Q?Servet_Erk=FCn?=)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:55:30 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco 2960 series switch MLS Qos Support
Message-ID: <005901c9c1bf$aac19f20$06050505@HSS.local>

hi guys

Do you have any idea? 
Does cisco 2960 series switch suppory MLS Qos on it's interface?
it uses c2960-lanbase-mz.122-35.SE5 IOS, you can see my policy configuration below.

mls qos aggregate-policer 2M 2000000 50000 exceed-action drop

class-map match-all 2M
  match access-group 100

policy-map 512K
  class 2M
    police aggregate 2M

access-list 100 permit ip any any


interface GigabitEthernet0/8
 switchport access vlan 848
 service-policy input 2M

i check policy-map with "show policy-map interface" command, but i can not see any matching about this policy


#sh policy-map interface gi 0/8
 GigabitEthernet0/8 

  Service-policy input: 2M

    Class-map: 2M (match-all)
      0 packets, 0 bytes
      5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
      Match: access-group 100

    Class-map: class-default (match-any)
      0 packets, 0 bytes
      5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
      Match: any 
        0 packets, 0 bytes
        5 minute rate 0 bps

From pshuleski at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 10:00:54 2009
From: pshuleski at gmail.com (Pete S.)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:00:54 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Easy way to configure/build new switches?
In-Reply-To: <BB7784D8CA6E485BAC1BDF5F967EB97E@moscato>
References: <BB7784D8CA6E485BAC1BDF5F967EB97E@moscato>
Message-ID: <50f158990904200700o1f1729ecnec698c6b3e257802@mail.gmail.com>

It would be fairly trivial to write a php/perl script to build a
config, based on your template and questions about settings.  Even
make it into a skeleton webpage if you dont like the CLI.  Then store
the output into a tftp dir.

Go into the switch, give it an IP.  copy tftp://x.x.x.x/filename.txt
startup-config

reload.

--Pete

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Tristan Gulyas <zardoz at hotblack.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We currently do a lot of provisioning of new Cisco 3750G switches. ?This
> seems to be a progressive, ongoing thing.
>
> At present, when we receive a new switch, we need to:
>
> * Upgrade firmware (currently 12.2(50)SE crypto, switches typically ship
> with 12.2(35)SE5)
> * Place our config on the switch
> * Configure vlan for management, IP address for management
> * Set first switch in stack to priority 15 (not in the config in a "show
> run")
> * Confgure VTP
> * Change SDM template for dual IPv4/IPv6.
> * Configure uplinks (and optionally downlinks)
>
> At present, we do a lot of copying/pasting from a template page which is
> prone to error. ?Upgrading the firmware on these switches is also tedious
> and slow.
>
> Is there a tool or method we could use to quick provision these switches,
> say, if we could automatically get the new firmware/config template from a
> TFTP server? ?What concerns me is the lines that aren't actually present in
> the config, i.e. stack priority settings and VTP.
>
> thanks,
> Tristan
>
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From lowen at pari.edu  Mon Apr 20 11:53:25 2009
From: lowen at pari.edu (Lamar Owen)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:53:25 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] C6kSup720 "LAN ONLY" vs. "WAN"
In-Reply-To: <49EB1A3F.80509@forthnet.gr>
References: <1239908737.3608.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <200904201153.25986.lowen@pari.edu>

On Sunday 19 April 2009 08:34:07 Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
> According to Software Advisor you need the wan image for OSM cards (like
> you said). Interestingly enough, SIPs/SPAs do not seem to need it.
> Nevertheless, it's hard to believe that OSMs are responsible for the
> additional 33% of -compressed- code!

OSM's have a whole processor on board that needs IOS software loaded; PXF 
stuff, etc.  Some of this is in the bootflash for the OSM, but some (or even 
most) is loaded from the IOS image.  I'm assuming FlexWAN is similar, but I 
don't have a FlexWAN to try with.

Also, there are protocols that are only used for WAN, things like APS and 
such.

And you can't trust Feature Navigator to tell you; try comparing the images 
for 12.2(18)SXF16 on a 7600 Sup2MSFC2 versus the same IOS on a Catalyst 6500 
Sup2MSFC2 (same sup/msfc, should have same features, no?) to see what I mean.

Here's a 'show ver' and some other informative commands run from an OSM 
console showing the special IOS running on the OSM's processor, the location 
of the PXF microcode, and the differences in the system: filesystem seen from 
the RP and the CWAN proc:

dc-7609-1# attach 3
Entering CONSOLE for slot 3
Type "^C^C^C" to end this session

CWTLC-Slot3>enable
CWTLC-Slot3#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) cwtlc Software (cwtlc-DW-M), Version 12.2(18)SXF16, RELEASE SOFTWARE 
(fc2)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2009 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 03-Mar-09 14:24 by kellythw
Image text-base: 0x60011038, data-base: 0x60700000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(5r)E, ENGG RELEASE (fc1)
ROM: cwtlc Software (cwtlc-DW-M), Version 12.2(18)SXF16, RELEASE SOFTWARE 
(fc2)

CWTLC-Slot3 uptime is 3 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 16 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System restarted at 17:24:16 UTC Sat Mar 28 2009
Running default software

cisco CWAN Toaster Linecard (R7000) processor (revision 0xFF) with 
245760K/16384K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID , TMC Ucode version: 0.0
R7000 CPU at 262Mhz, Implementation 0x27, Rev 3.3, 256KB L2 Cache
Last reset from power-on
PXF processor tmc0 is running.
1 FastEthernet/IEEE 802.3 interface
4 Packet over SONET network interfaces

Configuration register is 0x101

CWTLC-Slot3#sh microcode
Microcode images for downloadable hardware
HW Type             Microcode image names
------------------------------------------
pxf      default    system:pxf/ucode0
CWTLC-Slot3#dir system:
Directory of system:/

    2  dr-x           0                    <no date>  memory
   12  dr-x           0                    <no date>  pxf
    1  -rw-         695                    <no date>  running-config

No space information available
CWTLC-Slot3#
CWTLC-Slot3#
CWTLC-Slot3#
Terminate IPC console session? [confirm]
dc-7609-1#sh microcode
              ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

dc-7609-1#dir system:
Directory of system:/

    2  dr-x           0                    <no date>  memory
    1  -rw-       10176                    <no date>  running-config
   12  dr-x           0                    <no date>  vfiles

No space information available
dc-7609-1#



From bfarouk52 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 20 11:30:28 2009
From: bfarouk52 at yahoo.com (Belal Farouk)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] c7201 error SFP is missing [0]
Message-ID: <179270.35479.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I tried to install 12.4(X)T on this chassis to support PA-MC-2T3-EC. "Show fac status" gives me the following: 

Router#sh facility-alarm sta 
System Totals Critical: 1 Major: 0 Minor: 0 

Source Severity Description [Index] 
------ -------- ------------------- 
SFP Slot 0/3 CRITICAL SFP is missing [0] 

Cisco version SFP is in and interface is UP and UP. 

Router#sh int g0/3 
GigabitEthernet0/3 is up, line protocol is up 
Hardware is i82546, address is 0024.97a6.ee17 (bia 0024.97a6.ee17) 
Internet address is 11.0.2.1/24 
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit, DLY 10 usec, 
reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255 
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set 
Keepalive set (10 sec) 
Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is autonegotiation, media type is LX 
output flow-control is XON, input flow-control is XON 

Research on bug didn't find any. There is one reported as chipset i82546 on g0/3 was missing many IOS command to retrieve information CSCsq58662. The other ports are regular NPE-G2 chipset. 

Any one come about this problem and what was the resolution from Cisco. 

Thanks,


      

From ler762 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 13:07:27 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:07:27 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904201007j476e8dd7v6703083f6c5c290f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi  Dale,

On 4/19/09, Dale Shaw <dale.shaw+cisco-nsp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Lee <ler762 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What I'd like to know is what extra protection "service
>> tcp-keepalives-in" gives you that the exec-timeout on the VTYs
>> doesn't.
>
> Hmm, I guess it might come in useful if you're accessing the vty line
> via a firewall with particularly aggressive idle TCP session timers?

It probably would..  I went at it from the other direction tho; set
the keepalive time on my ssh client to 10 minutes.

> Having said that though, it's not like "service tcp-keepalives
> (in|out)" can be tuned. The DocCD is quiet on how often the keepalives
> are sent, too.

I don't remember seeing anything on how often keepalives are sent
either - just that sessions were killed after 5 minutes with no
answer.

> Old thread:
> http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/2004-July/011508.html
>  <--- is that you? :-)

Yup, that's me :)    Discretion being the better part of valor, etc.,
etc., I use a non-work email address now.

Regards,
Lee

From ras at e-gerbil.net  Mon Apr 20 13:20:22 2009
From: ras at e-gerbil.net (Richard A Steenbergen)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:20:22 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <49EC2494.3090909@rollernet.us>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC2494.3090909@rollernet.us>
Message-ID: <20090420172022.GQ51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:30:28AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> None. It looks like a converter, but it's not, it's a convenience to
> access wiring on the backplane Cisco added to let you use this module
> until you're ready for 10 gig.

Speaking of converters, has anyone seen the upcoming Cisco X2 to SFP+
converter module? Now if only they made something useful like a XENPAK
to XFP converter instead. :)

-- 
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GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

From ler762 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 20 13:26:12 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:26:12 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904201026o682f0a18n5d9e22b8e7fc9da1@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/20/09, Clinton Work <clinton at scripty.com> wrote:
>
> Sound like a bug similiar to CSCee62455.  From experience with the bug,
> once all the VTY lines are locked up, the console port would not respond
> either.  The only way to clear the VTY lines was with SNMP, but it would
> cause crashes from time to time.  "service tcp-keepaliaves in/out"
> didn't help either.

Another one of my "could someone please explain why" things is how
come "service tcp-keepalives in/out" is considered a "best practice"
and having a much more restrictive ACL on vty 4 isn't?

We've got something like this on all routers:

access-list 100 permit ip 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 any
access-list 104 permit ip host 10.1.1.10 any

line vty 0 3
 access-class 100 in
line vty 4
 access-class 104 in

Which means every single router fails when you put the config through RAT :(

Lee


>
> Clinton.
>
> Dale Shaw wrote:
>> Hmm, I guess it might come in useful if you're accessing the vty line
>> via a firewall with particularly aggressive idle TCP session timers?
>>
>> Having said that though, it's not like "service tcp-keepalives
>> (in|out)" can be tuned. The DocCD is quiet on how often the keepalives
>> are sent, too.
>>
>>
>
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From RYAN.BRAULT at illinois.gov  Mon Apr 20 15:02:10 2009
From: RYAN.BRAULT at illinois.gov (Brault, Ryan)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:02:10 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco 2960 series switch MLS Qos Support
In-Reply-To: <005901c9c1bf$aac19f20$06050505@HSS.local>
References: <005901c9c1bf$aac19f20$06050505@HSS.local>
Message-ID: <D323071B5BC5DD4CAD8B077947E76275D62C14@IL084EX112.illinois.gov>

Can't speak to a 2960 specifically, but a 3560 will not show any hits on a "show policy-map interface".  I believe that's the case with this whole family of switches.  I *think* the best you can do is a "show mls qos interface <x> statistics".

Ryan Brault

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 8:56 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco 2960 series switch MLS Qos Support

hi guys

Do you have any idea? 
Does cisco 2960 series switch suppory MLS Qos on it's interface?
it uses c2960-lanbase-mz.122-35.SE5 IOS, you can see my policy configuration below.

mls qos aggregate-policer 2M 2000000 50000 exceed-action drop

class-map match-all 2M
  match access-group 100

policy-map 512K
  class 2M
    police aggregate 2M

access-list 100 permit ip any any


interface GigabitEthernet0/8
 switchport access vlan 848
 service-policy input 2M

i check policy-map with "show policy-map interface" command, but i can not see any matching about this policy


#sh policy-map interface gi 0/8
 GigabitEthernet0/8 

  Service-policy input: 2M

    Class-map: 2M (match-all)
      0 packets, 0 bytes
      5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
      Match: access-group 100

    Class-map: class-default (match-any)
      0 packets, 0 bytes
      5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
      Match: any 
        0 packets, 0 bytes
        5 minute rate 0 bps
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From SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca  Mon Apr 20 15:58:56 2009
From: SMESIATO at petro-canada.ca (Mesiatowsky, Shawn)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:58:56 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Easy way to configure/build new switches?
In-Reply-To: <BB7784D8CA6E485BAC1BDF5F967EB97E@moscato>
References: <BB7784D8CA6E485BAC1BDF5F967EB97E@moscato>
Message-ID: <259E69AA141E7640822757CAB3EBC70F18C1C1FD8C@MSG-M1P1.pcacorp.net>

 We use HP Datacenter automation center, formerly opsware. It is great for provisioning equipment, standardizing your IOS, policy compliance, and auditing. I highly recommend this tool

https://h10078.www1.hp.com/cda/hpms/display/main/hpms_content.jsp?zn=bto&cp=1-11-271-273_4000_100__


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Tristan Gulyas
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 6:57 PM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] Easy way to configure/build new switches?

Hi all,

We currently do a lot of provisioning of new Cisco 3750G switches.  This seems to be a progressive, ongoing thing.

At present, when we receive a new switch, we need to:

* Upgrade firmware (currently 12.2(50)SE crypto, switches typically ship with 12.2(35)SE5)
* Place our config on the switch
* Configure vlan for management, IP address for management
* Set first switch in stack to priority 15 (not in the config in a "show
run")
* Confgure VTP
* Change SDM template for dual IPv4/IPv6.
* Configure uplinks (and optionally downlinks)

At present, we do a lot of copying/pasting from a template page which is prone to error.  Upgrading the firmware on these switches is also tedious and slow.

Is there a tool or method we could use to quick provision these switches, say, if we could automatically get the new firmware/config template from a TFTP server?  What concerns me is the lines that aren't actually present in the config, i.e. stack priority settings and VTP.

thanks,
Tristan

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From andy.saykao at staff.netspace.net.au  Mon Apr 20 18:22:06 2009
From: andy.saykao at staff.netspace.net.au (Andy Saykao)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:22:06 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Lab Recommendations
Message-ID: <56F211C5E3F24F47B103EA1B253822BE03654D25@vic-cr-ex1.staff.netspace.net.au>

Hi All,
 
I'm looking for some QoS hands on labs to try out - does any body have
any recommendations or reference material I can use? I've got all the
hardware to pretty much set up any lab I want. 
 
Is there a way or some program I can use to create (simulate) congestion
on a link in a lab set up?
 
Thanks.
 
Andy

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From charles at thewybles.com  Mon Apr 20 18:38:03 2009
From: charles at thewybles.com (Charles Wyble)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:38:03 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Lab Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <56F211C5E3F24F47B103EA1B253822BE03654D25@vic-cr-ex1.staff.netspace.net.au>
References: <56F211C5E3F24F47B103EA1B253822BE03654D25@vic-cr-ex1.staff.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <49ECF94B.4080602@thewybles.com>

Well perhaps start with the GNS3 labs to get an idea of various topologies?

Andy Saykao wrote:
> Hi All,
>  
> I'm looking for some QoS hands on labs to try out - does any body have
> any recommendations or reference material I can use? I've got all the
> hardware to pretty much set up any lab I want. 
>  
> Is there a way or some program I can use to create (simulate) congestion
> on a link in a lab set up?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Andy
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From mtinka at globaltransit.net  Mon Apr 20 22:19:04 2009
From: mtinka at globaltransit.net (Mark Tinka)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:19:04 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] c7201 error SFP is missing [0]
In-Reply-To: <179270.35479.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <179270.35479.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200904211019.06282.mtinka@globaltransit.net>

On Monday 20 April 2009 11:30:28 pm Belal Farouk wrote:

> Source Severity Description [Index]
> ------ -------- -------------------
> SFP Slot 0/3 CRITICAL SFP is missing [0]

We've seen this in our logs, both on the NPE-G2 and 7201 - 
code is 12.2(33)SRC3 or earlier.

It hasn't caused any real problems, so we haven't really 
followed up on it with TAC. Maybe we should :-).

Cheers,

Mark.
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From Steven.Glogger at swisscom.com  Tue Apr 21 02:21:57 2009
From: Steven.Glogger at swisscom.com (Steven.Glogger at swisscom.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:21:57 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Lab Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <56F211C5E3F24F47B103EA1B253822BE03654D25@vic-cr-ex1.staff.netspace.net.au>
References: <56F211C5E3F24F47B103EA1B253822BE03654D25@vic-cr-ex1.staff.netspace.net.au>
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you should try to get the CCIE labs / workbooks from internetwork expert - especially volume II version 5.0 beta has really good QoS stuff in there.

-steven 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:22 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Lab Recommendations

Hi All,
 
I'm looking for some QoS hands on labs to try out - does any body have any recommendations or reference material I can use? I've got all the hardware to pretty much set up any lab I want. 
 
Is there a way or some program I can use to create (simulate) congestion on a link in a lab set up?
 
Thanks.
 
Andy

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From rinse.kloek at isp.solcon.nl  Tue Apr 21 03:02:37 2009
From: rinse.kloek at isp.solcon.nl (Rinse Kloek)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:02:37 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] QoS Lab Recommendations
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Message-ID: <49ED6F8D.8030308@isp.solcon.nl>

For congestion tests, Spirent Smartbits hardware in combination with 
SmartFlow, is your best friend.

Andy Saykao schreef:
> Hi All,
>  
> I'm looking for some QoS hands on labs to try out - does any body have
> any recommendations or reference material I can use? I've got all the
> hardware to pretty much set up any lab I want. 
>  
> Is there a way or some program I can use to create (simulate) congestion
> on a link in a lab set up?
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Andy
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From md at bts.sk  Tue Apr 21 03:16:17 2009
From: md at bts.sk (=?UTF-8?Q?Marian_=C4=8Eurkovi=C4=8D?=)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:16:17 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <20090420172022.GQ51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC2494.3090909@rollernet.us>
	<20090420172022.GQ51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
Message-ID: <20090421070341.M23196@bts.sk>

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:20:22 -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:30:28AM -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> > None. It looks like a converter, but it's not, it's a convenience to
> > access wiring on the backplane Cisco added to let you use this module
> > until you're ready for 10 gig.
> 
> Speaking of converters, has anyone seen the upcoming Cisco X2 to SFP+
> converter module? Now if only they made something useful like a XENPAK
> to XFP converter instead. :)

There's a patent covering exactly this:

http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/7488121.html

It envisages any XAUI into any XFI module conversion options, which will be
really great.

   M.

From A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk  Tue Apr 21 04:00:23 2009
From: A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk (A.L.M.Buxey at lboro.ac.uk)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:00:23 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <20090421070341.M23196@bts.sk>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC1656.2050109@cisco.com>
	<5574b2240904192337r6e8a94a9i437dda00bd8906c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0B5@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<49EC2494.3090909@rollernet.us>
	<20090420172022.GQ51443@gerbil.cluepon.net>
	<20090421070341.M23196@bts.sk>
Message-ID: <20090421080023.GD7227@lboro.ac.uk>

Hi,

> There's a patent covering exactly this:
> 
> http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/7488121.html
> 
> It envisages any XAUI into any XFI module conversion options, which will be
> really great.

why is there a patent granted for this? its obvious.

now what'll happen is noone will make such adapters because
they'd have to pay a patent fee/royalty. we desperately
need to return to open specification and patent-free connectivity.

alan

From jcovini at free.fr  Tue Apr 21 04:21:57 2009
From: jcovini at free.fr (jcovini at free.fr)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:21:57 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] X2 to GigE
In-Reply-To: <1240213833.49ec294941657@imp.free.fr>
References: <292AF25E62B8894C921B893B53A19D97394469E0AE@BUSINESSEX.business.ad>
	<1240213833.49ec294941657@imp.free.fr>
Message-ID: <1240302117.49ed822590737@imp.free.fr>

> Selon Skeeve Stevens <skeeve at eintellego.net>:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I am looking at using a HP 10GbE switch with X2 slots.... but only X2 - no
> > GigE.
>
> Why not using a Procurve 5406 with some J8707A modules (x4 port 10G slots)
> and
> J8436A transceivers (10-GbE X2-SC SR Optics), which runs fine with 50u MMF ?
>
> Jerome Covini

I did not notice at first that you wanted to uplink the Procurve to a Cisco
_GigE_.
So better disregard my answer.

From cordmacleod at gmail.com  Tue Apr 21 17:43:00 2009
From: cordmacleod at gmail.com (Cord MacLeod)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:43:00 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] routing multicast between vlans on a 3560
Message-ID: <560972D1-79EB-4912-ADDB-BDF18205898B@gmail.com>

I'm curious as to the effects of multicast routing between vlans on a  
3560.  Are there any major performance hits?  The devices are at  
around 10% CPU right now, so I'm not particularly worried.  Also, I've  
seen some examples of how to do this from Cisco's website, http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk828/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094821.shtml 
.  I've not worked much with multicast in the past, so this is  
somewhat new territory for me.  Anything else I'm not thinking of that  
I should be aware of?

From listacct at genhex.net  Tue Apr 21 21:04:49 2009
From: listacct at genhex.net (Jeff Crowe)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:04:49 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VLAN bridging on 3560
Message-ID: <000001c9c2e6$56376f70$02a64e50$@net>

Hi all,

I don't know if this is even possible but I'll try and make it work none the
less!  

I am trying to bridge 4 vlans (reduced to 2 vlans for now to get working)
together on a 3560 to allow a sudo transparent transport for a customer.
The VLANs are delivered to me from a third party provider as dot1q vlans and
all arrive on the same trunk port on the 3560.  I have created the VLAN and
SVI for each connection.  In each SVI I have added bridge-group 2 to the
configuration to each of the 4 svi's I would like to see bridged. I have
bridge 2 protocol vlan-bridge configured as well as bridge irb in the
configuration.

The customer has a flat network of 192.168.0.x/24 configured on their
equipment at each site and need to contact a host at site A.  I am not able
to get any response from each end point via the bridge, but if I place an IP
on the SVI, I can pass traffic on each separate SVI. Mac addresses only
appear on each vlan and not on the bridge group.

#  show bridge 2 group

Bridge Group 2 is running the VLAN Bridge compatible Spanning Tree protocol

   Port 2280 (Vlan212) of bridge group 2 is forwarding
   Port 2282 (Vlan214) of bridge group 2 is forwarding



interface Vlan212
 no ip address
 bridge-group 2
end
!
interface Vlan214
 no ip address
 bridge-group 2
end

Any idea's where I should start looking for clues?

Regards,
Jeff.


From justin at justinshore.com  Tue Apr 21 23:27:16 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:27:16 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <dd5f2deb0904201026o682f0a18n5d9e22b8e7fc9da1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>	<49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904201026o682f0a18n5d9e22b8e7fc9da1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EE8E94.7060503@justinshore.com>

Lee wrote:
> line vty 0 3
>  access-class 100 in
> line vty 4
>  access-class 104 in
> 
> Which means every single router fails when you put the config through RAT :(

I went round and round with a security guy who audited our gear once 
over that.  He made a huge stink over how we didn't have have passwords 
on our VTYs, con and aux ports.  He took everything RAT had to say as 
gospel, as if there was no other (or better) way to address a security 
issue.  We use AAA on all interfaces including con0.  I have TACACS+ set 
up with local auth as the backup (and only one user account on the 
devices which I've gone to great lengths to protect).  Aux is explicitly 
disabled.  He just didn't get it.  Sure I could add the password command 
to the VTY to appease him even though it wouldn't do a damn thing with 
AAA enabled.  I didn't though and I used the password stink as part of 
my justification that RAT really only points out common and basic 
security problems and doesn't take into account any of the numerous ways 
of mitigating those problems with more advanced methods.  In the end the 
audit was dropped.  The actual problems in the audit were addressed. 
Any RAT fluff was ignored.  There were several other things like that 
but the line passwords were the most obvious to even a non-technical person.

While my installs may not be perfect, they are far better than average. 
  I don't need someone second-guessing my work with a tool like RAT.

Justin


From justin at justinshore.com  Wed Apr 22 00:09:54 2009
From: justin at justinshore.com (Justin Shore)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:09:54 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] c7201 error SFP is missing [0]
In-Reply-To: <200904211019.06282.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
References: <179270.35479.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200904211019.06282.mtinka@globaltransit.net>
Message-ID: <49EE9892.7010309@justinshore.com>

Mark Tinka wrote:
> On Monday 20 April 2009 11:30:28 pm Belal Farouk wrote:
> 
>> Source Severity Description [Index]
>> ------ -------- -------------------
>> SFP Slot 0/3 CRITICAL SFP is missing [0]
> 
> We've seen this in our logs, both on the NPE-G2 and 7201 - 
> code is 12.2(33)SRC3 or earlier.
> 
> It hasn't caused any real problems, so we haven't really 
> followed up on it with TAC. Maybe we should :-).

I see the same thing on a 7201 that I have had trouble with.  I'm 
running 12.4(24)T.  Gi0/3 has a SFP-GE-S in it.  The link I had trouble 
with was Gi0/0 though.  0/0, 0/1 and 0/3 all show the error.  0 and 1 
are actually RJ45 so I suppose this could be expected, though I'd prefer 
that the media-type command disable the SFP check on those interfaces.

The problem I had was on gi0/3 with MTUs going out via copper onto a 
fiber media converter.  It worked fine for several months and then one 
day it wigged out on me and started silently dropping jumbo frames.

I have another 7201 with single-strand optics in Gi0/0 and 0/1.  0/2 and 
0/3 are SX, same as above.  0/3 shows the error.


Gi0/3 on the 7201 is the product of taking one of the unused PCI buses 
that would be servicing PA slots in a VXR chassis and turning it into a 
GigE interface.

Justin

From peter at rathlev.dk  Wed Apr 22 01:06:24 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:06:24 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VLAN bridging on 3560
In-Reply-To: <000001c9c2e6$56376f70$02a64e50$@net>
References: <000001c9c2e6$56376f70$02a64e50$@net>
Message-ID: <1240376784.3427.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 21:04 -0400, Jeff Crowe wrote:
> I don't know if this is even possible but I'll try and make it work
> none the less!  
> 
> I am trying to bridge 4 vlans (reduced to 2 vlans for now to get
> working) together on a 3560 to allow a sudo transparent transport for
> a customer.
...

The 3560 doesn't support regular bridging, only "fallback bridging" that
generally just works for non-IP.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/12.2_46_se/configuration/guide/swfallbk.html
http://tinyurl.com/d27d2u

You could use a "real" router to do it, like a 2800.

Alternatively, if you can accept that the spanning trees collapse, you
can melt together the VLANs with to access ports loop to each other and
members of each VLAN. You have to be a little careful though.

Regards,
Peter



From lists at quux.de  Wed Apr 22 05:51:33 2009
From: lists at quux.de (Jens Link)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:51:33 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <49EE8E94.7060503@justinshore.com> (Justin Shore's message of
	"Tue\, 21 Apr 2009 22\:27\:16 -0500")
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<49E6ABD7.4030402@gmail.com>
	<876789290904152118u451d667bmb0d6873725de22a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904201026o682f0a18n5d9e22b8e7fc9da1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EE8E94.7060503@justinshore.com>
Message-ID: <87ab69qamy.fsf@laphroiag.quux.de>

Justin Shore <justin at justinshore.com> writes:

> While my installs may not be perfect, they are far better than
> average. I don't need someone second-guessing my work with a tool like
> RAT.

Agreed. But (IIRC) you can write your own rules for RAT.  Combine this 
with rancid and you have a great way of finding thing you may have
forgotten to configure. 

cheers,

Jens
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From nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 10:10:01 2009
From: nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com (Nick Griffin)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:10:01 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
Message-ID: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
particular design I am working with is worth the cost.
Thanks in advance.

Nick Griffin

From jcdarby at usgs.gov  Wed Apr 22 10:39:18 2009
From: jcdarby at usgs.gov (Justin C Darby)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:39:18 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>


Nick,

The primary benefit to these things, AFAIK, is the ACE integration for load
balancing. I'm pretty sure there are other options (mostly software)
available to do the same DNS load balancing without ACE's, but - ACE's are
a great way to add redundancy to a site, and GSS+ACE can handle load
balancing across many access points with integrated service monitoring and
the like. Doing that without a device like the ACE is pretty complicated.

Justin

-----cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net wrote: -----
To: "cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
From: Nick Griffin
Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
Date: 04/22/2009 09:18AM
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE

Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
particular design I am working with is worth the cost. Thanks in advance.
Nick Griffin _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp
mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
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From nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 10:45:44 2009
From: nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com (Nick Griffin)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:45:44 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>

So say I had 2 datacenter locations geographically disperse and I'm not
running BGP. I have similar web and smtp servers at each locations. I'm not
so much concerned that traffic gets load balanced to a cluster of servers
when traffic enters a particular data center (which is an ACE application),
instead I'm concerned about D/R. Say I lose DataCenter 1, I want some DNS
magic to take place to say that mail.mydomain.com has moved from 10.1.1.5 to
10.1.2.5 at Data Center 2. Does that make sense?


On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Justin C Darby <jcdarby at usgs.gov> wrote:

>
> Nick,
>
> The primary benefit to these things, AFAIK, is the ACE integration for load
> balancing. I'm pretty sure there are other options (mostly software)
> available to do the same DNS load balancing without ACE's, but - ACE's are
> a great way to add redundancy to a site, and GSS+ACE can handle load
> balancing across many access points with integrated service monitoring and
> the like. Doing that without a device like the ACE is pretty complicated.
>
> Justin
>
> -----cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net wrote: -----
> To: "cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> From: Nick Griffin
> Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> Date: 04/22/2009 09:18AM
> Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
>
> Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
> without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
> redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
> balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
> particular design I am working with is worth the cost. Thanks in advance.
> Nick Griffin _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp
> mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at
> http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
>
>

From eric at roxanne.org  Wed Apr 22 10:50:15 2009
From: eric at roxanne.org (Eric Gauthier)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:50:15 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090422145015.GA16677@roxanne.org>


We're interested in the same sort of question.

In our case, we have server groups who already handle local load 
balancing internally within their clusters.  My group, the network
team, wants to provide load balancing and automatic failover of
traffic between our two campus data centers but we don't need
the load piece nor, given the distributed nature of our campus,
is it easy to force all traffic through a set of LB's before
deciding which center should receive the traffic.


Eric :)


On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 09:45:44AM -0500, Nick Griffin wrote:
> So say I had 2 datacenter locations geographically disperse and I'm not
> running BGP. I have similar web and smtp servers at each locations. I'm not
> so much concerned that traffic gets load balanced to a cluster of servers
> when traffic enters a particular data center (which is an ACE application),
> instead I'm concerned about D/R. Say I lose DataCenter 1, I want some DNS
> magic to take place to say that mail.mydomain.com has moved from 10.1.1.5 to
> 10.1.2.5 at Data Center 2. Does that make sense?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Justin C Darby <jcdarby at usgs.gov> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Nick,
> >
> > The primary benefit to these things, AFAIK, is the ACE integration for load
> > balancing. I'm pretty sure there are other options (mostly software)
> > available to do the same DNS load balancing without ACE's, but - ACE's are
> > a great way to add redundancy to a site, and GSS+ACE can handle load
> > balancing across many access points with integrated service monitoring and
> > the like. Doing that without a device like the ACE is pretty complicated.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > -----cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net wrote: -----
> > To: "cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> > From: Nick Griffin
> > Sent by: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> > Date: 04/22/2009 09:18AM
> > Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
> >
> > Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
> > without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
> > redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
> > balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
> > particular design I am working with is worth the cost. Thanks in advance.
> > Nick Griffin _______________________________________________ cisco-nsp
> > mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at
> > http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
> archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

From rdobbins at cisco.com  Wed Apr 22 11:05:53 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:05:53 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <20090422145015.GA16677@roxanne.org>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090422145015.GA16677@roxanne.org>
Message-ID: <C930BF81-1006-4E80-ACA7-7B7E2CFCCC1F@cisco.com>


On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Eric Gauthier wrote:

> We're interested in the same sort of question.


You can play all kinds of DNS games with GSS based upon load (via  
probes), perceived topological distance, up/down status, et. al.  It  
has some DNS DoS self-defense mechanisms built in, too.

There are some open-source tools which can be used to do various types  
of clustering/redirection/etc., as well:

<http://www.backhand.org/mod_backhand/>

<http://www.backhand.org/wackamole/>

<http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-a-high-availability-load-balancer-with-haproxy-wackamole-spread-on-debian-etch 
 >

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From nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 11:10:16 2009
From: nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com (Nick Griffin)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:10:16 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>

Right, my question was does it require ACE appliance or modules to work? I
have the need for Global Site Selection, however I don't I need the
application level load balancing at this point that is offered by the ACE.
Also, are there any ties to particular vendor DNS servers, ie CNR?

Gracias,

Nick Griffin
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at cisco.com> wrote:

>
> On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Nick Griffin wrote:
>
>  Does that make sense?
>>
>
> Sure - GSS does that.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at cisco.com>
>
>  Our dreams are still big; it's just the future that got small.
>
>                   -- Jason Scott
>
>

From cisco-nsp at slepicka.net  Wed Apr 22 11:12:59 2009
From: cisco-nsp at slepicka.net (James Slepicka)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:12:59 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49EF33FB.90304@slepicka.net>

You can use the GSS without an ACE (or CSS, or IOS-SLB...).  You'll be 
limited to the basic keepalive checks (icmp ping, http head, etc.) to 
detect site availability; you won't be able to make load-based 
decisions, for example, but it will otherwise work fine.  I just use the 
http head check for a couple of web sites where a basic up/down check is 
all that's required (though I also use scripted KALs where more complex 
decisions need to be made).

James

Nick Griffin wrote:
> Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
> without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
> redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
> balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
> particular design I am working with is worth the cost.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick Griffin
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From rdobbins at cisco.com  Wed Apr 22 11:21:42 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:21:42 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>


On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Right, my question was does it require ACE appliance or modules to  
> work?

No, can work independently, no problem.

> Also, are there any ties to particular vendor DNS servers, ie CNR?


It can hook into CNR, and is also its own DNS server (can work with  
anything else, too, obviously, through delegation).

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From nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 11:33:44 2009
From: nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com (Nick Griffin)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:33:44 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>

Great, thanks to all. So am I to assume if I have X Data Centers, I need 1xX
GSS's for redundancy? In other words if I had 2 sites and one GSS and the
GSS is at the site that lost internet connectivity, its not going to do me
much good.
TIA

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at cisco.com> wrote:

>
> On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Nick Griffin wrote:
>
>  Right, my question was does it require ACE appliance or modules to work?
>>
>
> No, can work independently, no problem.
>
>  Also, are there any ties to particular vendor DNS servers, ie CNR?
>>
>
>
> It can hook into CNR, and is also its own DNS server (can work with
> anything else, too, obviously, through delegation).
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at cisco.com> // +852.6904.8571 mobile
>
>  Our dreams are still big; it's just the future that got small.
>
>                   -- Jason Scott
>
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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 11:34:20 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:34:20 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6CB129AE25E44B14BAD3DC157E3B0C4F@flamdt01>

I can't say I've ever done this but the GSS does have the ability to probe 
other devices/brands via SNMP.  Also, there is good scripting capability.

So, my initial answer is yes.

Keep in mind, GSS isn't a "real" DNS server.  It's more of a DNS proxy...

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Griffin" <nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com>
To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:10 AM
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE


> Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
> without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
> redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
> balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
> particular design I am working with is worth the cost.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick Griffin
> _______________________________________________
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From robbie.jacka at regions.com  Wed Apr 22 11:39:19 2009
From: robbie.jacka at regions.com (robbie.jacka at regions.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:39:19 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <OFAEEF3D07.9B9E5027-ON862575A0.0055A8CF-862575A0.0055FF5C@corp.rgbk.com>

Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right - while it
performs DNS resolution for configured host records (based on rules), I
don't believe that it can recurse on behalf of a client, nor can it
actually perform AXFRs, as far as I am aware. In other words, it does some
DNS-related functions exceptionally well (rules, monitoring, etc) it does
not do others at all.
--
robbie



                                                                           
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On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Right, my question was does it require ACE appliance or modules to
> work?

No, can work independently, no problem.

> Also, are there any ties to particular vendor DNS servers, ie CNR?


It can hook into CNR, and is also its own DNS server (can work with
anything else, too, obviously, through delegation).

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From rdobbins at cisco.com  Wed Apr 22 12:00:55 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:00:55 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26639FCD-78B5-41BF-898F-2C06DFA5CD65@cisco.com>


On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Great, thanks to all. So am I to assume if I have X Data Centers, I  
> need 1xX
> GSS's for redundancy?


I'd put a cluster of 2 at each IDC, something like that.

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From rdobbins at cisco.com  Wed Apr 22 12:01:50 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:01:50 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <OFAEEF3D07.9B9E5027-ON862575A0.0055A8CF-862575A0.0055FF5C@corp.rgbk.com>
References: <OFAEEF3D07.9B9E5027-ON862575A0.0055A8CF-862575A0.0055FF5C@corp.rgbk.com>
Message-ID: <703EE2AB-67D5-424C-9236-11D284B2D7F4@cisco.com>


On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:39 PM, robbie.jacka at regions.com wrote:

> . In other words, it does some
> DNS-related functions exceptionally well (rules, monitoring, etc) it  
> does
> not do others at all.


You're right - I should've said, ". . . task-specific, limited-subset  
DNS server."

Good catch!

;>

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		   -- Jason Scott


From rdobbins at cisco.com  Wed Apr 22 12:03:26 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:03:26 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <6CB129AE25E44B14BAD3DC157E3B0C4F@flamdt01>
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<6CB129AE25E44B14BAD3DC157E3B0C4F@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <BEAA94C7-FAAE-4B83-B660-0D4236658DE1@cisco.com>


On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Tony Varriale wrote:

> I can't say I've ever done this but the GSS does have the ability to  
> probe other devices/brands via SNMP.  Also, there is good scripting  
> capability.


Yes on both counts.

It's actually a neat little box.  Not many folks seem to know about  
it, but it's surprisingly useful, and most of the features make  
operational sense (note that the 'anycast' feature is not in fact  
anycast as is commonly understood, heh).

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From vijay.ramcharan at verizonbusiness.com  Wed Apr 22 12:22:48 2009
From: vijay.ramcharan at verizonbusiness.com (Ramcharan, Vijay A)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:22:48 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <703EE2AB-67D5-424C-9236-11D284B2D7F4@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <8171C8272CE8FE4A8F5BFF8A97CE6AB37EEB5D@ASHEVS006.mcilink.com>

You can always do F5 GTM if you need a full fledged DNS server (runs
BIND I think).  
 
Vijay Ramcharan 
  
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On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:39 PM, robbie.jacka at regions.com wrote:

> . In other words, it does some
> DNS-related functions exceptionally well (rules, monitoring, etc) it  
> does
> not do others at all.


You're right - I should've said, ". . . task-specific, limited-subset  
DNS server."

Good catch!

;>

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From robbie.jacka at regions.com  Wed Apr 22 12:26:26 2009
From: robbie.jacka at regions.com (robbie.jacka at regions.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:26:26 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <BEAA94C7-FAAE-4B83-B660-0D4236658DE1@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <OF19AC31A4.5BCAC783-ON862575A0.005A3BF7-862575A0.005A4FAD@corp.rgbk.com>

Agreed. The learning curve on it is roughly equivalent to SVR4, but once
you've gotten the basics down, it's a remarkably awesome device.
--
robbie




                                                                           
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On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Tony Varriale wrote:

> I can't say I've ever done this but the GSS does have the ability to
> probe other devices/brands via SNMP.  Also, there is good scripting
> capability.


Yes on both counts.

It's actually a neat little box.  Not many folks seem to know about
it, but it's surprisingly useful, and most of the features make
operational sense (note that the 'anycast' feature is not in fact
anycast as is commonly understood, heh).

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                            -- Jason Scott

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From robbie.jacka at regions.com  Wed Apr 22 12:38:08 2009
From: robbie.jacka at regions.com (robbie.jacka at regions.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:38:08 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <8171C8272CE8FE4A8F5BFF8A97CE6AB37EEB5D@ASHEVS006.mcilink.com>
Message-ID: <OF62C5B92C.A943FEBC-ON862575A0.005B3E0C-862575A0.005B6229@corp.rgbk.com>

or purchase the appropriate CNR licensing for the GSS and install it. the
basic box license just isn't really a full fledged DNS server, but can have
CNR and/or the cisco guard anti-DDoS functionality installed on it.
--
robbie




                                                                           
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You can always do F5 GTM if you need a full fledged DNS server (runs
BIND I think).

Vijay Ramcharan

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On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:39 PM, robbie.jacka at regions.com wrote:

> . In other words, it does some
> DNS-related functions exceptionally well (rules, monitoring, etc) it
> does
> not do others at all.


You're right - I should've said, ". . . task-specific, limited-subset
DNS server."

Good catch!

;>

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From ncnet at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr 22 12:30:51 2009
From: ncnet at sbcglobal.net (Larry Stites)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:30:51 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C614944B.147548%ncnet@sbcglobal.net>

We recently supplied (4) ACE20-MOD-K9 to a customer overseas for $17k/ea.
These units were previously owned spares, unused, box opened to inspect
contents. All units were complete with sealed software package and EULA
paperwork. The customer had a problem with recognition of the card in 6509
running SUP720-3BXL. The solution was IOS 12.2(18)SXF4 for ACE support in
6500/SUP720.

They were running 12.2-18.SXD7 and according to the requirements, they
needed 12.2-18.SXF or newer and 12.2-33.SXI or newer for it to run in
virtual switch mode.
 
The ACE20-MOD-K9 run in order of release; A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I etc.
etc. Customer was running D and the specs on Cisco?s site say they need F.

Note Supervisor Engine 32 does not support ACE10-6500-K9 or ACE20-MOD-K9.
 
I am also including the link down below so you can look at it yourself.
There is a section for the ACE modules in there.

If you are interested take a look at this cut and paste:
 
Application Control Engine (ACE) Module
 
 Product ID 
(append "=" for spares) Power
Required  Product Description Minimum Software Versions
ACE10-6500-K9
ACE20-MOD-K9  5.23 A at 42 V
 Application Control Engine (ACE) module
 
Note With releases earlier than Release 12.2(33)SXI, not supported in
virtual switch mode. With Supervisor Engine 720-10GE 12.2(33)SXH
 
With Supervisor Engine 720 12.2(18)SXF4
 
ACE10-6500-K9 and ACE20-MOD-K9 run their own software?See these
publications: 
 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6906/tsd_products_support_model_home.h
tml 
 
See the ACE10-6500-K9 and ACE20-MOD-K9 software release notes for
information about the minimum required service module software version.
 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/release
/notes/ol_14271.html#wp2982155


Best regards,


Larry E. Stites
Northern California Networks, Inc.
CA LIC# 2004 SR KH 100-484111
Nevada City, CA 95959
cell 530 320 4194
land 530 265 2588
ncnet at sbcglobal.net
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on 4/22/09 7:10 AM, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
> without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
> redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
> balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
> particular design I am working with is worth the cost.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Nick Griffin
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From ayourtch at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 16:40:25 2009
From: ayourtch at gmail.com (Andrew Yourtchenko)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:40:25 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <49EE8E94.7060503@justinshore.com>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
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	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
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	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Justin Shore <justin at justinshore.com> wrote:

> on all interfaces including con0.  I have TACACS+ set up with local auth as
> the backup (and only one user account on the devices which I've gone to
> great lengths to protect).  Aux is explicitly disabled.  He just didn't get
> it.  Sure I could add the password command to the VTY to appease him even

I'd venture to think it was more about trying to prevent the potential
corner cases. Of course there is a lot of preconditions for that "line
of the defense" to be hit - but it all depends. After all, most of us
have an insurance for the case of the proverbial "being hit by a bus"
- even though those are the events we all carefully try to avoid.
(Or so I would hope:-)

Back to the original post - without the version hard to tell, but I've
seen CSCsc70644 causing similar symptoms.

If that does not match, I'd say open up a case so the TAC folks take a
closer look.

cheers,
andrew

From Jay.Murphy at state.nm.us  Wed Apr 22 17:13:05 2009
From: Jay.Murphy at state.nm.us (Murphy, Jay, DOH)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:13:05 -0600
Subject: [c-nsp] Replacement for a Catalyst 4006?
Message-ID: <A925AC5C659BD64FBA4E84EC349688730872F5DD@CEXMB4.nmes.lcl>

Anyone from this forum replaced (I'm sure) or fork-lifted an upgrade to something greater than the suggested upgrade path for a Catalyst 4006??  Responses welcomed.


Jay Murphy 
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NM State Government
 
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From felixnkansah at gmail.com  Wed Apr 22 17:45:25 2009
From: felixnkansah at gmail.com (Felix Nkansah)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:45:25 +0000
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
Message-ID: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Team,
I am prospecting a short contract from a client (an ISP) who wants to
redesign their internal and edge networks.

Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to
automatically synchronize their running configurations.

So that when configurations changes are made on the active router, it is
replicated onto the standby box (like is done on Cisco firewall appliances
in failover mode).

During my meeting with the client to define their requirements, I explained
that I am not aware of any functionality to  automatically synchronize
running configs between two IOS routers just because they are in an HSRP or
GLBP group.

However, I have just received an official requirements definition (contract
terms) from the client and that requirement is stated in bold characters.

Was wondering if I have been missing any such feature in IOS routers for
this long?

Many thanks,

Felix

From tvarriale at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 18:19:57 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:19:57 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Replacement for a Catalyst 4006?
References: <A925AC5C659BD64FBA4E84EC349688730872F5DD@CEXMB4.nmes.lcl>
Message-ID: <C52DE2D58DA04990811F1437641946BE@flamdt01>

What are the requirements?

Quite honestly, I'm trying to forget anything 400x :)

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Murphy, Jay, DOH" <Jay.Murphy at state.nm.us>
To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: [c-nsp] Replacement for a Catalyst 4006?


Anyone from this forum replaced (I'm sure) or fork-lifted an upgrade to 
something greater than the suggested upgrade path for a Catalyst 4006?? 
Responses welcomed.


Jay Murphy
IP Network Specialist
NM State Government

IT Services Division
PSB - IP Network Operations
Santa F?, New M?xico 87502
"We move the information that moves your world."
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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 18:22:54 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:22:54 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
References: <C614944B.147548%ncnet@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <A4EBD17D2CB84FFFB8CC1B7359B86A90@flamdt01>

Not sure if this is a question or a statement...but...

I would look to run high SXF (12?) or SXH1.  Note, some folks are having 
issues with SXH so it really depends on their load out and features.

As for VSS, you shouldn't really be running SXH VSS.  SXI or higher only 
please. :)

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Stites" <ncnet at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Nick Griffin" <nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com>; <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE


We recently supplied (4) ACE20-MOD-K9 to a customer overseas for $17k/ea.
These units were previously owned spares, unused, box opened to inspect
contents. All units were complete with sealed software package and EULA
paperwork. The customer had a problem with recognition of the card in 6509
running SUP720-3BXL. The solution was IOS 12.2(18)SXF4 for ACE support in
6500/SUP720.

They were running 12.2-18.SXD7 and according to the requirements, they
needed 12.2-18.SXF or newer and 12.2-33.SXI or newer for it to run in
virtual switch mode.

The ACE20-MOD-K9 run in order of release; A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I etc.
etc. Customer was running D and the specs on Cisco?s site say they need F.

Note Supervisor Engine 32 does not support ACE10-6500-K9 or ACE20-MOD-K9.

I am also including the link down below so you can look at it yourself.
There is a section for the ACE modules in there.

If you are interested take a look at this cut and paste:

Application Control Engine (ACE) Module

 Product ID
(append "=" for spares) Power
Required  Product Description Minimum Software Versions
ACE10-6500-K9
ACE20-MOD-K9  5.23 A at 42 V
 Application Control Engine (ACE) module

Note With releases earlier than Release 12.2(33)SXI, not supported in
virtual switch mode. With Supervisor Engine 720-10GE 12.2(33)SXH

With Supervisor Engine 720 12.2(18)SXF4

ACE10-6500-K9 and ACE20-MOD-K9 run their own software publications:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6906/tsd_products_support_model_home.h
tml

See the ACE10-6500-K9 and ACE20-MOD-K9 software release notes for
information about the minimum required service module software version.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst6500/ios/12.2SX/release
/notes/ol_14271.html#wp2982155


Best regards,


Larry E. Stites
Northern California Networks, Inc.
CA LIC# 2004 SR KH 100-484111
Nevada City, CA 95959
cell 530 320 4194
land 530 265 2588
ncnet at sbcglobal.net
IM: LESGGN



on 4/22/09 7:10 AM, Nick Griffin wrote:

> Does anyone know if you can use or even would want to use a GSS appliance
> without an ACE Module or Appliance? I like the idea of having data center
> redundancy/global site selection,  however I'm not so sure the load
> balancing features of the ACE appliance are yet a requirement for a
> particular design I am working with is worth the cost.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Nick Griffin
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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 18:25:04 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:25:04 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
References: <a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com><6CB129AE25E44B14BAD3DC157E3B0C4F@flamdt01>
	<BEAA94C7-FAAE-4B83-B660-0D4236658DE1@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <296AF95FA44442B3AA97523A85358AEA@flamdt01>

Yeah, good boxes.  A lot of the functionality was already in the CSSes but 
stripped in the ACE.  :)

I've only done them with ACE and just a couple.  That market is dominated by 
someone else. :)

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins at cisco.com>
To: "Cisco-nsp" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE


>
> On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Tony Varriale wrote:
>
>> I can't say I've ever done this but the GSS does have the ability to 
>> probe other devices/brands via SNMP.  Also, there is good scripting 
>> capability.
>
>
> Yes on both counts.
>
> It's actually a neat little box.  Not many folks seem to know about  it, 
> but it's surprisingly useful, and most of the features make  operational 
> sense (note that the 'anycast' feature is not in fact  anycast as is 
> commonly understood, heh).
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins at cisco.com> // +852.6904.8571 mobile
>
>   Our dreams are still big; it's just the future that got small.
>
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From tvarriale at comcast.net  Wed Apr 22 18:27:08 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:27:08 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
References: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B485E2A4F3BA4DDD8AEF15A55EA8726B@flamdt01>

Doesn't really exist AFAIK.  You would have to script something maybe 
through EEM and/or management.

Note the CSSes have this but it's just a canned script. :)

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Felix Nkansah" <felixnkansah at gmail.com>
To: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:45 PM
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?


> Hi Team,
> I am prospecting a short contract from a client (an ISP) who wants to
> redesign their internal and edge networks.
>
> Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to
> automatically synchronize their running configurations.
>
> So that when configurations changes are made on the active router, it is
> replicated onto the standby box (like is done on Cisco firewall appliances
> in failover mode).
>
> During my meeting with the client to define their requirements, I 
> explained
> that I am not aware of any functionality to  automatically synchronize
> running configs between two IOS routers just because they are in an HSRP 
> or
> GLBP group.
>
> However, I have just received an official requirements definition 
> (contract
> terms) from the client and that requirement is stated in bold characters.
>
> Was wondering if I have been missing any such feature in IOS routers for
> this long?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Felix
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From graham at g-rock.net  Wed Apr 22 18:38:43 2009
From: graham at g-rock.net (Graham Wooden)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:38:43 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
In-Reply-To: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C61506A3.13C38%graham@g-rock.net>

Sync between each other? Yeah, you will have to look at something external,
something that would have write perms (like through SNMP or AAA).  Maybe a
tacacs+ system can do this?  I know there are products/scripts that can tftp
off / snmp read the config and store them off. There maybe a push mechanism
as well?

But you are correct - just because they are in a HSRP standby group, doesn't
mean that they can replicate. And with good reason too - there are
somethings you *don't* want to replicate, and a blanket copy-over would be
bad....

HTH,

-graham


On 4/22/09 4:45 PM, "Felix Nkansah" <felixnkansah at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Team,
> I am prospecting a short contract from a client (an ISP) who wants to
> redesign their internal and edge networks.
> 
> Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to
> automatically synchronize their running configurations.
> 
> So that when configurations changes are made on the active router, it is
> replicated onto the standby box (like is done on Cisco firewall appliances
> in failover mode).
> 
> During my meeting with the client to define their requirements, I explained
> that I am not aware of any functionality to  automatically synchronize
> running configs between two IOS routers just because they are in an HSRP or
> GLBP group.
> 
> However, I have just received an official requirements definition (contract
> terms) from the client and that requirement is stated in bold characters.
> 
> Was wondering if I have been missing any such feature in IOS routers for
> this long?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Felix
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From lists at memetic.org  Wed Apr 22 19:16:03 2009
From: lists at memetic.org (Adam Armstrong)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:16:03 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
In-Reply-To: <C61506A3.13C38%graham@g-rock.net>
References: <C61506A3.13C38%graham@g-rock.net>
Message-ID: <49EFA533.7010707@memetic.org>

Graham Wooden wrote:
> Sync between each other? Yeah, you will have to look at something external,
> something that would have write perms (like through SNMP or AAA).  Maybe a
> tacacs+ system can do this?  I know there are products/scripts that can tftp
> off / snmp read the config and store them off. There maybe a push mechanism
> as well?
>
> But you are correct - just because they are in a HSRP standby group, doesn't
> mean that they can replicate. And with good reason too - there are
> somethings you *don't* want to replicate, and a blanket copy-over would be
> bad....
>   
Not to mention that unlike a firewall, there should be relatively few 
changes to a router. Assuming it's not doing filtering/NAT or other 
things requiring lots of changes, of course.

If it's just a case of adding a new VLAN/Subinterface and putting an IP 
in it and the VLAN/Subif/IP scheme is predictable, I guess it could be 
easily scripted via snmp/tftp or telnet/ssh(+clogin?)

We do something similar for blanket config changes like ACLs and BGP 
peers. It works quite well, but if we had time to do it by hand to so 
many devices we'd probably prefer to...

adam.

From brhedlun at cisco.com  Wed Apr 22 23:00:24 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:00:24 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <OFAEEF3D07.9B9E5027-ON862575A0.0055A8CF-862575A0.0055FF5C@corp.rgbk.com>
Message-ID: <C61543F8.33764%brhedlun@cisco.com>


On 4/22/09 10:39 AM, "robbie.jacka at regions.com" <robbie.jacka at regions.com>
wrote:

> Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right

Not true.  GSS can also operate entirely as a full blown DNS server.


"Using software versions 2.0 through 3.0(x), GSS product capabilities have
been enhanced to allow the GSS to migrate to the top level of the DNS
hierarchy"

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/data_center_app_services/g
ss4400series/v3.1/configuration/cli/gslb/guide/Intro.html#wp1264301



Cheers

Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org





From ianh at chime.net.au  Wed Apr 22 23:07:47 2009
From: ianh at chime.net.au (Ian Henderson)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:07:47 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
In-Reply-To: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <100362309621454DAA534950B17E55DB011631552F85@isp-per-exc01.win2k.iinet.net.au>

Felix Nkansah wrote on 2009-04-23:

> Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers
> to automatically synchronize their running configurations.

You could avoid the problem entirely, but still meet the objective by using VSS?

Rgds,



- I.

--
Ian Henderson, CCIE #14721
Senior Network Engineer, iiNet Limited



From hank at efes.iucc.ac.il  Thu Apr 23 00:26:17 2009
From: hank at efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:26:17 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <26639FCD-78B5-41BF-898F-2C06DFA5CD65@cisco.com>
References: <a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20090423072449.00aef970@efes.iucc.ac.il>

At 12:00 AM 23-04-09 +0800, Roland Dobbins wrote:

>On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Nick Griffin wrote:
>
>>Great, thanks to all. So am I to assume if I have X Data Centers, I
>>need 1xX
>>GSS's for redundancy?
>
>
>I'd put a cluster of 2 at each IDC, something like that.

Why 2 at each IDC?  Since each box acts as a backup for the other, if IDC 
#1 goes down - then the GSS at IDC #2 takes over.  What benefit, other than 
to Cisco share value, would someone get to having 2x GSS at each IDC?

-Hank



From hank at efes.iucc.ac.il  Thu Apr 23 00:37:04 2009
From: hank at efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:37:04 +0300
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20090423072656.00b235a0@efes.iucc.ac.il>

At 09:45 AM 22-04-09 -0500, Nick Griffin wrote:
>So say I had 2 datacenter locations geographically disperse and I'm not
>running BGP. I have similar web and smtp servers at each locations. I'm not
>so much concerned that traffic gets load balanced to a cluster of servers
>when traffic enters a particular data center (which is an ACE application),
>instead I'm concerned about D/R. Say I lose DataCenter 1, I want some DNS
>magic to take place to say that mail.mydomain.com has moved from 10.1.1.5 to
>10.1.2.5 at Data Center 2. Does that make sense?

In addition to the GSS solutions which has been discussed here, there are 
outsourced solutions that essentially do the same thing.

Neustar (used to be UltraDNS):
http://www.ultradns.com/solutions/traffic.html
[See Sitebacker]

Level3:
http://www.level3.com/brochures/e_brochures/ITM_brochure_C.pdf
[ITM service]

Akamai:
http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/products/gtm.html
[GTM service]

Each has different bells and whistles as well as different pricing based on 
DNS load, but in general, the cost of a single GSS should provide you with 
their service for at least a year.  The benefits are you don't have to 
manage the GSS and the service is outsourced to those who maintain 10-20 
globally disparate DNS servers and who hopefully know how to run the 
service in a bullet-proof manner.

Regards,
Hank


From rdobbins at cisco.com  Thu Apr 23 00:50:28 2009
From: rdobbins at cisco.com (Roland Dobbins)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:50:28 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20090423072449.00aef970@efes.iucc.ac.il>
References: <a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<a2b352c40904220710q564370cfx4543655ae3ab5ca@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFC8D6FC8B.201EE76F-ON852575A0.005080B1-852575A0.005080C9@usgs.gov>
	<a2b352c40904220745w721a7a4bve8eca515f41571be@mail.gmail.com>
	<8793293D-6420-4C09-96C0-2DDC62088FFD@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220810o3692543cgc07723835d59f631@mail.gmail.com>
	<C2054BF6-A85C-4FFA-8FE7-106B5CC895F7@cisco.com>
	<a2b352c40904220833s1f5ac725n8f0c7fd5586b1e43@mail.gmail.com>
	<5.1.0.14.2.20090423072449.00aef970@efes.iucc.ac.il>
Message-ID: <86D3E086-B5DD-49E3-BB45-BC3C5F26040F@cisco.com>


On Apr 23, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:

> Why 2 at each IDC?  Since each box acts as a backup for the other,  
> if IDC #1 goes down - then the GSS at IDC #2 takes over.

Because if IDC #1 goes offline entirely, your DNS for whatever  
services you're running are now hanging by a single thread  in IDC #2,  
until IDC #1 comes back up.

>  What benefit, other than to Cisco share value, would someone get to  
> having 2x GSS at each IDC?


See above.  I'm not a salesman, I derive no benefit from suggesting  
folks overload on GSSes.  From an availability standpoint, that's  
simply my considered professional opinion, YMMV.

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From reuben-cisco-nsp at reub.net  Thu Apr 23 00:47:33 2009
From: reuben-cisco-nsp at reub.net (Reuben Farrelly)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:47:33 +1000
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
In-Reply-To: <100362309621454DAA534950B17E55DB011631552F85@isp-per-exc01.win2k.iinet.net.au>
References: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
	<100362309621454DAA534950B17E55DB011631552F85@isp-per-exc01.win2k.iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <49EFF2E5.1070502@reub.net>

On 23/04/2009 1:07 PM, Ian Henderson wrote:
> Felix Nkansah wrote on 2009-04-23:
> 
>> Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers
>> to automatically synchronize their running configurations.
> 
> You could avoid the problem entirely, but still meet the objective by using VSS?

How about using the "archive" commands in IOS to remotely copy the config off 
the router every time it was saved, something like this:

archive
  log config
  path tftp://192.168.10.10:/configs/router/router-confg
  write-memory

...and then run a kron (yes Kron not Cron) job on the router to periodically 
copy the config from that tftp location into startup?

Then if you wanted to get especially fancy then have an event manager (EEM) 
script on router 2 which upon detecting that the other router was down, would 
send an email alert off, initiate a reload 60 seconds later and come up with the 
config from router 1 which was in startup-config?  I'd be wary of implementing 
that step without a lot of testing, but it might work for you...

Reuben



From tseveendorj at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 02:17:58 2009
From: tseveendorj at gmail.com (Tseveendorj)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:17:58 +0800
Subject: [c-nsp] SNMP OID of 3825 router
Message-ID: <49F00816.30101@gmail.com>

Hello,

How do I know logged user on 3825 by SNMP ?

Really appreciate for any help.

Sincerely,
Tseveen.

From engel.labiro at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 04:06:09 2009
From: engel.labiro at gmail.com (Engelhard Labiro)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:06:09 +0900
Subject: [c-nsp] SNMP OID of 3825 router
In-Reply-To: <49F00816.30101@gmail.com>
References: <49F00816.30101@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51D68322-E2AF-43A6-9F90-B6CCCF06B326@gmail.com>

Try "SNMP object navigator" at cisco.com's Tools&Resources.


On Apr 23, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Tseveendorj <tseveendorj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> How do I know logged user on 3825 by SNMP ?
>
> Really appreciate for any help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tseveen.
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From chaz at chaz6.com  Thu Apr 23 09:27:33 2009
From: chaz at chaz6.com (Chris Hills)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:27:33 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Automatically Synchronize IOS Router Configurations?
In-Reply-To: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18dba4e50904221445o49a6da3aubb9ccc2d1927551a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <gspqc5$oml$1@ger.gmane.org>

On 22/04/09 23:45, Felix Nkansah wrote:
> Hi Team,
> I am prospecting a short contract from a client (an ISP) who wants to
> redesign their internal and edge networks.
>
> Among other things, their requirement is for their HSRP or GLBP routers to
> automatically synchronize their running configurations.
>
> So that when configurations changes are made on the active router, it is
> replicated onto the standby box (like is done on Cisco firewall appliances
> in failover mode).
>
> During my meeting with the client to define their requirements, I explained
> that I am not aware of any functionality to  automatically synchronize
> running configs between two IOS routers just because they are in an HSRP or
> GLBP group.
>
> However, I have just received an official requirements definition (contract
> terms) from the client and that requirement is stated in bold characters.
>
> Was wondering if I have been missing any such feature in IOS routers for
> this long?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Felix

If that functionality is not explicitly available, the way I would 
proceed is to write the configuration first to a configuration store, 
then to the standby host, and finally to the live host. This would make 
sure that records are up to date, and any potential configuration errors 
are discovered before going into production.


From tvarriale at comcast.net  Thu Apr 23 10:02:56 2009
From: tvarriale at comcast.net (Tony Varriale)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:02:56 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
References: <C61543F8.33764%brhedlun@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <63516B148FED440F980D3F71B162779C@flamdt01>

The GSS is definitely not that.

If you use it with CNR, yes.  Since CNR is that product, shazam.

But as said in my previous post, GSS still isn't a DNS server...it's more 
like a proxy.

tv
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
To: <robbie.jacka at regions.com>; "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins at cisco.com>
Cc: "Cisco-nsp" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>; 
<cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE


>
> On 4/22/09 10:39 AM, "robbie.jacka at regions.com" <robbie.jacka at regions.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right
>
> Not true.  GSS can also operate entirely as a full blown DNS server.
>
>
> "Using software versions 2.0 through 3.0(x), GSS product capabilities have
> been enhanced to allow the GSS to migrate to the top level of the DNS
> hierarchy"
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/data_center_app_services/g
> ss4400series/v3.1/configuration/cli/gslb/guide/Intro.html#wp1264301
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brad Hedlund
> bhedlund at cisco.com
> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From robbie.jacka at regions.com  Thu Apr 23 10:13:17 2009
From: robbie.jacka at regions.com (robbie.jacka at regions.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:13:17 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <63516B148FED440F980D3F71B162779C@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <OFC5EFD5DB.59EAABCB-ON862575A1.004DF47C-862575A1.004E1F47@corp.rgbk.com>

installing CNR on a GSS does not make it GSS a DNS server, much as sticking
a feather up your rear does not make you a chicken. :D

as tony stated, CNR is still a separate product - it's simply installed
*on* the GSS. a good product, to be sure - but with attendant licensing
needs.
--
robbie




                                                                           
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The GSS is definitely not that.

If you use it with CNR, yes.  Since CNR is that product, shazam.

But as said in my previous post, GSS still isn't a DNS server...it's more
like a proxy.

tv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
To: <robbie.jacka at regions.com>; "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins at cisco.com>
Cc: "Cisco-nsp" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>;
<cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE


>
> On 4/22/09 10:39 AM, "robbie.jacka at regions.com"
<robbie.jacka at regions.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right
>
> Not true.  GSS can also operate entirely as a full blown DNS server.
>
>
> "Using software versions 2.0 through 3.0(x), GSS product capabilities
have
> been enhanced to allow the GSS to migrate to the top level of the DNS
> hierarchy"
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/data_center_app_services/g

> ss4400series/v3.1/configuration/cli/gslb/guide/Intro.html#wp1264301
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brad Hedlund
> bhedlund at cisco.com
> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>
>
>
>
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From nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 10:16:38 2009
From: nick.jon.griffin at gmail.com (Nick Griffin)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:16:38 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <63516B148FED440F980D3F71B162779C@flamdt01>
References: <C61543F8.33764%brhedlun@cisco.com>
	<63516B148FED440F980D3F71B162779C@flamdt01>
Message-ID: <a2b352c40904230716p1e01818au469586303af21c6e@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to everyone for responding. Very valuable information!
Nick Griffin

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Tony Varriale <tvarriale at comcast.net>wrote:

> The GSS is definitely not that.
>
> If you use it with CNR, yes.  Since CNR is that product, shazam.
>
> But as said in my previous post, GSS still isn't a DNS server...it's more
> like a proxy.
>
> tv
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Hedlund" <brhedlun at cisco.com>
> To: <robbie.jacka at regions.com>; "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins at cisco.com>
> Cc: "Cisco-nsp" <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>; <
> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
>
>
>
>> On 4/22/09 10:39 AM, "robbie.jacka at regions.com" <robbie.jacka at regions.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Saying that the GSS is it's own DNS server isn't quite right
>>>
>>
>> Not true.  GSS can also operate entirely as a full blown DNS server.
>>
>>
>> "Using software versions 2.0 through 3.0(x), GSS product capabilities have
>> been enhanced to allow the GSS to migrate to the top level of the DNS
>> hierarchy"
>>
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/data_center_app_services/g
>> ss4400series/v3.1/configuration/cli/gslb/guide/Intro.html#wp1264301
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brad Hedlund
>> bhedlund at cisco.com
>> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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>
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From brhedlun at cisco.com  Thu Apr 23 10:31:23 2009
From: brhedlun at cisco.com (Brad Hedlund)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:31:23 -0500
Subject: [c-nsp] GSS and ACE
In-Reply-To: <OFC5EFD5DB.59EAABCB-ON862575A1.004DF47C-862575A1.004E1F47@corp.rgbk.com>
Message-ID: <C615E5EB.337C7%brhedlun@cisco.com>


On 4/23/09 9:13 AM, "robbie.jacka at regions.com" <robbie.jacka at regions.com>
wrote:

> installing CNR on a GSS does not make it GSS a DNS server, much as sticking
> a feather up your rear does not make you a chicken. :D
> 
> as tony stated, CNR is still a separate product - it's simply installed
> *on* the GSS. a good product, to be sure - but with attendant licensing
> needs.
> --
> robbie

Point taken.  True, you need the appropriate licenses.  However the fact
remains that you can consolidate DNS and GSLB onto one appliance, the GSS
4492R.



Cheers

Brad Hedlund
bhedlund at cisco.com
http://www.internetworkexpert.org





From panocisco77 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 10:41:56 2009
From: panocisco77 at gmail.com (Renelson Panosky)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:41:56 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco Standard closet
Message-ID: <16e2ac180904230741g3c419887s64882e6235bd9d06@mail.gmail.com>

Hello List

Can anybody tell me anything about a cisco Standard closet? They are redoing
the closet at my job and i am gathering some information, anything would
help for instance website, phone number etc...


Renelson

From billbuhlman at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 23 11:13:13 2009
From: billbuhlman at yahoo.com (Bill Buhlman)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco Standard closet
Message-ID: <17803.47139.qm@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

We have always used TIA/EIA standards documents for data center, MDF,IDF. 
TIA-568, TIA-569, TIA-570, TIA-606, TIA-942. Available from http://global.ihs.com/
?
Bill

--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Renelson Panosky <panocisco77 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Renelson Panosky <panocisco77 at gmail.com>
Subject: [c-nsp] Cisco Standard closet
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 7:41 AM


Hello List

Can anybody tell me anything about a cisco Standard closet? They are redoing
the closet at my job and i am gathering some information, anything would
help for instance website, phone number etc...


Renelson
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From mduksa at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 12:33:29 2009
From: mduksa at gmail.com (Marlon Duksa)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:33:29 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] number of VRFs on Cisco Cat/7600
Message-ID: <a89d89ac0904230933i4c3ae99kf46f0b1c5eba8383@mail.gmail.com>

I found this in Cisco documentation under the title "OSPF Support for
Unlimited Software VRFs per
Provider Edge Router" :

"The OSPF Support for Unlimited Software VRFs per Provider Edge Router
feature allows for an
approximate range of 300 to 10,000 VRFs, depending on the particular
platform and on the applications,
processes, and protocols that are currently running on the platform."

10,000 VRF?

7600/Cat have a limitation of 4K internal VLANs and each L3 VPN (MPLS) takes
one of those, up to 512 L3 VPNs. After 512 L3 VPNs it takes 2 internal
VLANs.

This would max out L3 VPNs on 7600/Cat to less than 3K. I assume that L3 VPN
= VRF.

Does anyone know how they arrived to this 10K VRFs number? It just does not
make sense.
Thanks,
Marlon

From lukasz at bromirski.net  Thu Apr 23 13:18:09 2009
From: lukasz at bromirski.net (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?=A3ukasz_Bromirski?=)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:18:09 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] number of VRFs on Cisco Cat/7600
In-Reply-To: <a89d89ac0904230933i4c3ae99kf46f0b1c5eba8383@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a89d89ac0904230933i4c3ae99kf46f0b1c5eba8383@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F0A2D1.7030501@bromirski.net>

On 2009-04-23 18:33, Marlon Duksa wrote:
> I found this in Cisco documentation under the title "OSPF Support
> for Unlimited Software VRFs per Provider Edge Router" :
>
> "The OSPF Support for Unlimited Software VRFs per Provider Edge
> Router feature allows for an approximate range of 300 to 10,000 VRFs,
> depending on the particular platform and on the applications,
> processes, and protocols that are currently running on the
> platform."
>
> 10,000 VRF?
>
> 7600/Cat have a limitation of 4K internal VLANs and each L3 VPN
> (MPLS) takes one of those, up to 512 L3 VPNs. After 512 L3 VPNs it
> takes 2 internal VLANs.
>
> This would max out L3 VPNs on 7600/Cat to less than 3K. I assume that
> L3 VPN = VRF.
>
> Does anyone know how they arrived to this 10K VRFs number? It just
> does not make sense.

The 7600 router is not the only platform in Cisco portfolio that
supports VRFs. Also, the IOS and the quote deal more than with
scalability than real example of production environment.

-- 
"Don't expect me to cry for all the     |               ?ukasz Bromirski
  reasons you had to die" -- Kurt Cobain |    http://lukasz.bromirski.net

From lists at memetic.org  Thu Apr 23 13:20:28 2009
From: lists at memetic.org (Adam Armstrong)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:20:28 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] number of VRFs on Cisco Cat/7600
In-Reply-To: <a89d89ac0904230933i4c3ae99kf46f0b1c5eba8383@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a89d89ac0904230933i4c3ae99kf46f0b1c5eba8383@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F0A35C.2090601@memetic.org>

Marlon Duksa wrote:
> I found this in Cisco documentation under the title "OSPF Support for
> Unlimited Software VRFs per
> Provider Edge Router" :
>
> "The OSPF Support for Unlimited Software VRFs per Provider Edge Router
> feature allows for an
> approximate range of 300 to 10,000 VRFs, depending on the particular
> platform and on the applications,
> processes, and protocols that are currently running on the platform."
>
> 10,000 VRF?
>
> 7600/Cat have a limitation of 4K internal VLANs and each L3 VPN (MPLS) takes
> one of those, up to 512 L3 VPNs. After 512 L3 VPNs it takes 2 internal
> VLANs.
>
> This would max out L3 VPNs on 7600/Cat to less than 3K. I assume that L3 VPN
> = VRF.
>
> Does anyone know how they arrived to this 10K VRFs number? It just does not
> make sense.
Unlimited *software* VRFs?

adam.

From ler762 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 13:21:17 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:21:17 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] network audit was:  VTY Lines
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904231021s1eff4bbbg8483c0291ccdc524@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/21/09, Justin Shore <justin at justinshore.com> wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>> line vty 0 3
>>  access-class 100 in
>> line vty 4
>>  access-class 104 in
>>
>> Which means every single router fails when you put the config through RAT
>> :(
>
> I went round and round with a security guy who audited our gear once
> over that.  He made a huge stink over how we didn't have have passwords
> on our VTYs, con and aux ports.  He took everything RAT had to say as
> gospel, as if there was no other (or better) way to address a security
> issue.   <.. snip ..>  He just didn't get it.

I'd love to make it a requirement that network auditors have to
actually know something about networking.

We've got a service support contract w/ Cisco that includes a network
audit; those are useful.  What our security office is doing now...
well, it is forcing me to take a detailed look at all the configs, so
it's not a complete waste of time.

>  ...  I used the password stink as part of
> my justification that RAT really only points out common and basic
> security problems and doesn't take into account any of the numerous ways
> of mitigating those problems with more advanced methods.  In the end the
> audit was dropped.

Dropping an audit has never been an option where I've worked.
Preventing an audit from turning into nothing more than a bureaucratic
paper-shuffling exercise is the best I can hope for.

 <.. snip ..>
> While my installs may not be perfect, they are far better than average.
>   I don't need someone second-guessing my work with a tool like RAT.

s/need someone/need a clueless someone/ and I'd agree.  I've been in a
few meetings where the auditor wasn't able to justify their findings
with anything better than claiming "it's a best practice".

I just looked at http://checklists.nist.gov/ncp.cfm?repository again
and the only accepted Cisco IOS benchmark that has an automated tool
is CIS.  That they were able to get their tool accepted by the USG is
impressive.  That they haven't updated it since it's release is
regrettable.

Regards,
Lee

From ler762 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 13:32:25 2009
From: ler762 at gmail.com (Lee)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:32:25 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] VTY Lines
In-Reply-To: <87ab69qamy.fsf@laphroiag.quux.de>
References: <e43f38f20904150307n74112ac2n74f0ced98fd5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<2C05E949E19A9146AF7BDF9D44085B863527941244@exchange.aoihq.local>
	<dd5f2deb0904160608y2c853258l54693e6beb406375@mail.gmail.com>
	<6de481d10904190012n61ab655eo70d43b61457c6c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904190553o6ddbb7f0s79257c69235178ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<3329cbb40904191653r43c2c77bie0c31fb88eec92b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EC7BE2.60100@scripty.com>
	<dd5f2deb0904201026o682f0a18n5d9e22b8e7fc9da1@mail.gmail.com>
	<49EE8E94.7060503@justinshore.com> <87ab69qamy.fsf@laphroiag.quux.de>
Message-ID: <dd5f2deb0904231032r1766861cr5fc4d2a641f03fa4@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/22/09, Jens Link <lists at quux.de> wrote:
> Justin Shore <justin at justinshore.com> writes:
>
>> While my installs may not be perfect, they are far better than
>> average. I don't need someone second-guessing my work with a tool like
>> RAT.
>
> Agreed. But (IIRC) you can write your own rules for RAT.  Combine this
> with rancid and you have a great way of finding thing you may have
> forgotten to configure.

Yes, but an auditor isn't going to allow your own rules for RAT so
you're still stuck with justifying every 'failure' RAT comes up with.

I tried sending them feedback a few years ago & got a very nice
rejection reply.  Maybe including patches with my feedback will work
better this time..

Lee

From arl at nordicom.tele.dk  Thu Apr 23 13:43:15 2009
From: arl at nordicom.tele.dk (Arne Larsen)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:43:15 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] vs isdn calling number via radius
Message-ID: <E5386FBFE7934E999A48F2807D7E8B20@Homearl1>

Hi all.

Does anyone know if it's possible to append calling number on an as5300 via an radius attribute.
I'm making large scale dialout and I need to chanage the calling number depending on who'm I'm calling.

/Arne

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From clane1875 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 13:51:20 2009
From: clane1875 at gmail.com (Chris Lane)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:51:20 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input
Message-ID: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>

Having a high cpu with my 3750 not in stack. sh proc cpu | exclude 0.00
CPU utilization for five seconds: 68%/43%; one minute: 69%; five minutes:
70%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
168    40336940  92166921        437 15.49% 15.76% 15.97%   0 IP Input

WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(35)SE2             C3750-ADVIPSERVICESK

According to some old threads this was a bug in some older IOS which was
fixed in 12.2(25)

Egress port is quiet:
5 minute input rate 11171000 bits/sec, 1353 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 2821000 bits/sec, 681 packets/sec

Sure i can upgrade IOS!
Looking to know WHY this box is so hot!

Thanks

-- 
//CL

From nockhi at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 14:04:04 2009
From: nockhi at gmail.com (Asif Gul Khan)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:04:04 +0600
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input
In-Reply-To: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d788461b0904231104v6f1deb29jec67cbba762e4ff8@mail.gmail.com>

If that was hot, than mine is already burnt :)


Cisco-4006#sh proc cpu | i IP In

CPU utilization for five seconds: 40%/0%; one minute: 49%; five minutes: 48%

 PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs    5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process

  27  11102394522491179868    445  38.07% 40.50% 39.38%   0 IP Input


sh version shows:

IOS (tm) Catalyst 4000 L3 Switch Software (cat4000-IS-M), Version
12.1(8a)EW1, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Does IOS Upgrade really solves this cpu prob???





On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Chris Lane <clane1875 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Having a high cpu with my 3750 not in stack. sh proc cpu | exclude 0.00
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 68%/43%; one minute: 69%; five minutes:
> 70%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
> 168    40336940  92166921        437 15.49% 15.76% 15.97%   0 IP Input
>
> WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(35)SE2             C3750-ADVIPSERVICESK
>
> According to some old threads this was a bug in some older IOS which was
> fixed in 12.2(25)
>
> Egress port is quiet:
> 5 minute input rate 11171000 bits/sec, 1353 packets/sec
>  5 minute output rate 2821000 bits/sec, 681 packets/sec
>
> Sure i can upgrade IOS!
> Looking to know WHY this box is so hot!
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> //CL
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-nsp mailing list  cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp
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From mksmith at adhost.com  Thu Apr 23 15:46:28 2009
From: mksmith at adhost.com (Michael K. Smith - Adhost)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:46:28 -0700
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input
In-Reply-To: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031605EC0F03@ad-exh01.adhost.lan>

Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input

Having a high cpu with my 3750 not in stack. sh proc cpu | exclude 0.00
CPU utilization for five seconds: 68%/43%; one minute: 69%; five
minutes:
70%
 PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
168    40336940  92166921        437 15.49% 15.76% 15.97%   0 IP Input

WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(35)SE2             C3750-ADVIPSERVICESK

According to some old threads this was a bug in some older IOS which was
fixed in 12.2(25)

----
[Michael K. Smith - Adhost] 

Do you have cef enabled?

Mike

From SteveMc at netservicesplc.com  Thu Apr 23 15:03:13 2009
From: SteveMc at netservicesplc.com (Steve McCrory)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:03:13 +0100
Subject: [c-nsp] Problems with multiple VPDN hops
Message-ID: <1C15FB264A06794F8BDE2120972B51C1050E280A@netexch04.ad.netservicesplc.com>

We have ADSL tails coming into our network from several BT L2TP tunnels
terminating on Cisco LNS routers (7301s)

 

We normally either terminate the sessions locally on our first LNS
routers or forward the sessions, using Radius attributes to other LNS
routers (our's our wholesale customers).

 

What we would like to achieve is to take the L2TP tunnels from BT and
forward them twice across our network as such:

 

End User<--pppoa-->BT<--L2TP-->LNS1<--L2TP-->LNS2<--L2TP-->LNS3

 

As mentioned above, we normally terminate users on LNS1 and assign IP
addresses, or forward the sessions to LNS2. We would like to establish
an additional tunnel to LNS3 but so far have found this difficult and
the sessions seem to stall, in a sort of half-authenticated state on LNS
2.

 

We are using Radius to apply the forwarding rules, which we have
configured as follows:

 

# First hop from LNS1 to LNS2

DEFAULT         NAS-IP-Address !~ "\^213\.130\.147\.56\$", User-Name =~
"-shapetest at work\$", Auth-Type := Accept

        Framed-Protocol = PPP,

        Service-Type    = Framed-User,

        Tunnel-Type := "L2TP",

        Tunnel-Medium-Type := "IP",

        Tunnel-Client-Auth-ID := "brantest",

        Tunnel-Server-Endpoint := "213.130.147.56",

        Tunnel-Password := "oNi6egXZ"

 

# Second hop forwards from LNS2 to LNS3

DEFAULT         NAS-IP-Address =~ "\^213\.130\.147\.56\$", User-Name =~
"-shapetest at work\$", Auth-Type := Accept

      Framed-Protocol = PPP,

      Service-Type    = Framed-User,

      Tunnel-Type := "L2TP",

      Tunnel-Medium-Type := "IP",

      Tunnel-Client-Auth-ID := "netservint",

      Tunnel-Server-Endpoint := "213.130.145.50",

      Tunnel-Password := "oNi6egXZ"

 

We also have the following vpdn groups configured on our LNS routers:

 

LNS2:

 

vpdn-group test1

 accept-dialin

  protocol l2tp

  virtual-template 2

 terminate-from hostname test1

 source-ip 213.130.147.56

 lcp renegotiation on-mismatch

 l2tp tunnel password 7 XXXXXXXXXX

 l2tp tunnel receive-window 10

 

LNS3:

 

vpdn-group test2

 accept-dialin

  protocol l2tp

  virtual-template 1

 terminate-from hostname test2

 source-ip 213.130.145.50

 lcp renegotiation always

 l2tp tunnel password 7 XXXXXXXXX

 l2tp tunnel receive-window 10

 

What I'd like to know is if it's possible to use radius to essentially
switch packets from one L2TP tunnel into another when they reach LNS2.

 

We know that the VPDN and Radius configuration are correct on LNS2
because we can successfully terminate sessions on this router and assign
IP addresses

 

Thanks 

 

Steven

 

Steven McCrory

 

Senior Network Engineer

 

Netservices PLC

Waters Edge Business Park

Modwen Road

Manchester, M5 3EZ

 

www.netservicesplc.com <http://www.netservicesplc.com> 

 



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Registered Office: NetServices House, 31 Modwen Road,
Waters Edge Business Park, SALFORD, M5 3EZ
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From peter at rathlev.dk  Thu Apr 23 16:01:16 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:01:16 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input
In-Reply-To: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1240516876.3396.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:51 -0400, Chris Lane wrote:
> Having a high cpu with my 3750 not in stack. sh proc cpu | exclude 0.00
> CPU utilization for five seconds: 68%/43%; one minute: 69%; five minutes:
> 70%
>  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
> 168    40336940  92166921        437 15.49% 15.76% 15.97%   0 IP Input
> 
> WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(35)SE2             C3750-ADVIPSERVICESK
> 
> According to some old threads this was a bug in some older IOS which was
> fixed in 12.2(25)
> 
> Egress port is quiet:
> 5 minute input rate 11171000 bits/sec, 1353 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 2821000 bits/sec, 681 packets/sec
> 
> Sure i can upgrade IOS!
> Looking to know WHY this box is so hot!

When you see the box spending processor time in "IP Input" it's because
it cannot hardware switch the traffic it moves. This is (almost) always
a bad thing when you're looking at a L3 switch.

There can be several reasons for this. Features not supported in
hardware (= most features, e.g. GRE or NAT) is one possible thing. TCAM
starvation/overflow could also make the box do software switching.

It depends on your configuration. Has it always done this?

Regards,
Peter



From clane1875 at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 16:15:39 2009
From: clane1875 at gmail.com (Chris Lane)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:15:39 -0400
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input
In-Reply-To: <1240516876.3396.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
	<1240516876.3396.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <2e1cd850904231315k5cd2a31axe6742364b556db82@mail.gmail.com>

The 3750 doesn't support GRE from what i have read ? No NAT either, strictly
L3. This box has been in production for over a year and doesn't really do to
much as you can see from my orig thread it moves about 11MB.

This just started late last night yet we didn't add any new customer nor did
anybody even touch switch as the device is remote.

I read in an older thread regarding same thing that the person rebooted and
of course it resolved issue. I am planning to do that Early tomorrow am,
but
i really want to know what the heck is causing this.

Yes CEF is running.

Thanks to all for input.



On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Peter Rathlev <peter at rathlev.dk> wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:51 -0400, Chris Lane wrote:
> > Having a high cpu with my 3750 not in stack. sh proc cpu | exclude 0.00
> > CPU utilization for five seconds: 68%/43%; one minute: 69%; five minutes:
> > 70%
> >  PID Runtime(ms)   Invoked      uSecs   5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
> > 168    40336940  92166921        437 15.49% 15.76% 15.97%   0 IP Input
> >
> > WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(35)SE2             C3750-ADVIPSERVICESK
> >
> > According to some old threads this was a bug in some older IOS which was
> > fixed in 12.2(25)
> >
> > Egress port is quiet:
> > 5 minute input rate 11171000 bits/sec, 1353 packets/sec
> >   5 minute output rate 2821000 bits/sec, 681 packets/sec
> >
> > Sure i can upgrade IOS!
> > Looking to know WHY this box is so hot!
>
> When you see the box spending processor time in "IP Input" it's because
> it cannot hardware switch the traffic it moves. This is (almost) always
> a bad thing when you're looking at a L3 switch.
>
> There can be several reasons for this. Features not supported in
> hardware (= most features, e.g. GRE or NAT) is one possible thing. TCAM
> starvation/overflow could also make the box do software switching.
>
> It depends on your configuration. Has it always done this?
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
>


-- 
//CL

From peter at rathlev.dk  Thu Apr 23 16:41:11 2009
From: peter at rathlev.dk (Peter Rathlev)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:41:11 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] 3750 High Cpu IP Input
In-Reply-To: <2e1cd850904231315k5cd2a31axe6742364b556db82@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2e1cd850904231051l527cc07fo26c2ab0403a28f21@mail.gmail.com>
	<1240516876.3396.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<2e1cd850904231315k5cd2a31axe6742364b556db82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1240519271.3396.9.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 16:15 -0400, Chris Lane wrote:
>  This box has been in production for over a year and doesn't really do
> to much as you can see from my orig thread it moves about 11MB.
> 
> This just started late last night yet we didn't add any new customer
> nor did anybody even touch switch as the device is remote.
> 
> I read in an older thread regarding same thing that the person
> rebooted and of course it resolved issue. I am planning to do that
> Early tomorrow am, but 
> i really want to know what the heck is causing this.
>  
> Yes CEF is running.

What about TCAM utilisation ("show platform tcam utilization")?

Regards,
Peter



From leigh.bogardis at aciernet.com  Thu Apr 23 16:52:06 2009
From: leigh.bogardis at aciernet.com (Leigh Bogardis -Aciernet)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:52:06 +0200
Subject: [c-nsp] Broken pin on a backplane
Message-ID: <49F0D4F6.8050204@aciernet.com>

Hi,

has