[c-nsp] ME3600X Netflow and WCCP?
Colby Glass
colbycciestudy at gmail.com
Thu Jul 28 07:51:12 EDT 2011
Ed,
These would be replacing some 7200s with G2s for a large enterprise
customer. Pretty vanilla needs, ethernet handoffs from the SP up to 1gb/s.
They want the ability to shape and use more router-like QoS (MQC). Netflow
and WCCP are a necessity as well. This is a neat platform and much cheaper
than the ASRs they're currently buying. They've purchased a few ASRs but are
not crazy about the pricing, and the platform is overkill for what they're
doing. ISRs are an option, but they believe they'll grow out of them too
quickly.
If you have any other suggestions, let me know.
Thanks
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Edward Salonia <ed at edgeoc.net> wrote:
> Waris,
>
> Thanks for the input and taking the feedback into consideration to fix the
> FN.
>
>
> Colby,
>
> I've seen time and time again, people expecting to position this platform
> in an environment other than what it is intended for. I'm not calling out
> anyone in particular on this list but I've seen mentions in the past about
> these features as well as others, and why they aren't included/supported.
>
> Features like netflow and wccp, in my humble opinion are better suited for
> a routing platform. The 3600/3800 metro ethernet switches, as well as
> earlier 3400(E) series are meant for metro ethernet handoff circuit like
> functionality, tripple play scenarios, and more recently mobile backhaul, to
> name a few.
>
> I am curious to know more about in what specific position you client is
> looking to deploy this platform, as there may be a better alternative to
> suit your and your clients' needs.
>
>
> I would be happy to lend other suggestions for a deployment platform
> choice, as I'm sure will others. What type of hand-off is their SP giving
> them. What are they looking to accomplish? Is it simply an ethernet handoff
> where they are looking for flow data? Do they need to do MPLS-TE? Will VRF
> lite suffice? Any other advanced features?
>
> Hope I can be of assistance.
>
>
> - Ed
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Waris Sagheer (waris)" <waris at cisco.com>
> Sender: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:30:09
> To: Colby Glass<colbycciestudy at gmail.com>
> Cc: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600X Netflow and WCCP?
>
> We'll fix the feature navigator. Thanks for your feedback.
>
>
>
> -Waris
>
>
>
> From: Colby Glass [mailto:colbycciestudy at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:32 PM
> To: Waris Sagheer (waris)
> Cc: Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600X Netflow and WCCP?
>
>
>
> Thanks. So the config guides are the definitive resource as far as
> features? I would expect the feature navigator (which listed WCCP v2 on the
> ME3600) to be the end-all, be-all. Either way though, thanks for clearing it
> up.
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Waris Sagheer (waris) <waris at cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
> ME3600X does not support Netflow and WCCP in the current release.
> If the configuration guide does not cover the features then it is not be
> supported.
> Netflow and WCCP features are not covered in the configuration guide.
>
> -Waris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Colby Glass
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:27 PM
> To: Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ME3600X Netflow and WCCP?
>
> Thanks guys. Before posting, I noticed that it's listed in the unsupported
> commands of an older IOS, but not in the newer one. That gave me some hope.
> Though, none of the guides I saw listed anything for configuring WCCP or
> Netflow. The feature nav listed WCCP Version 2 though. It's not looking
> good.
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Sigurbjörn Birkir Lárusson <
> sigurbjornl at vodafone.is> wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't trust that, you can configure stuff on the ME3600X that
> doesn't
> > actually work (or in fact do anything at all) in practice, you can even
> > configure stuff that is in the manual, and is supposed to work, but still
> > doesn't work ;)
> >
> > I turned on flow on a couple of interfaces, turned on top-talkers and got
> > nothing. I then setup netcat to listen to a UDP port, configured export
> > to send it, and according to show ip flow export it's not exporting
> > anything.
> >
> > It also doesn't bode well for the support that ip flow-export is in the
> > list of unsupported commands in the configuration guide, nor does the
> fact
> > that there is only one reference to wccp in the configuration guide and
> > that's under the traffic-classifier for the CPU traffic...
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Sibbi
> >
> > Þann 27.7.2011 21:31, skrifaði "Jason Lixfeld" <jason at lixfeld.ca>:
> >
> > >On 2011-07-27, at 4:45 PM, Colby Glass wrote:
> > >
> > >> All,
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone happen to know if the ME3600 supports Netflow and WCCP? I
> > >>have a
> > >> customer considering them for the WAN edge and the docs/feature
> > >>navigator
> > >> are coming up somewhat ambiguous.
> > >
> > >I haven't tested it, but...
> > >
> > >systems02.151front71(config)#ip flow-?
> > >flow-aggregation flow-cache flow-capture flow-egress
> > >flow-export flow-top-talkers
> > >
> > >systems02.151front71(config)#ip flow-export ?
> > > destination Specify the Destination IP address
> > > source Specify the interface for source address
> > > template Specify the template specific configurations
> > > version Specify the version number
> > >
> > >systems02.151front71(config)#ip flow-export version ?
> > > 1
> > > 5
> > > 9
> > >
> > >systems02.151front71(config)#int g0/1
> > >systems02.151front71(config-if)#no switchport
> > >systems02.151front71(config-if)#ip route-cache ?
> > > cef Enable Cisco Express Forwarding
> > > flow Enable Flow fast-switching cache
> > > policy Enable fast-switching policy cache for outgoing
> packets
> > > same-interface Enable fast-switching on the same interface
> > > <cr>
> > >
> > >systems02.151front71(config-if)#ip wccp ?
> > > <0-254> Dynamically defined service identifier number
> > > redirect Set packet redirection options
> > > web-cache Standard web caching service
> > >
> > >systems02.151front71(config-if)#
> > >
> > >This is on 12.2(52)EY1
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