[cisco-voip] CCM Web Page performance issues, aka 'Loading, Please Wait' (a rant)

[Jonathan Charles]

We upgrade cuz the customer hears 'linux' and thinks it is better...
that is also what the sales people are selling...

To be honest, the only kick-ass features for CCM5 are BAT and the LDAP
integration.



Jonathan

On 10/5/07, Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu> wrote:
> Yeah, just a WAG but I'd suspect the DB, not the web server.
>
> CCM 4.x remains, in my opinion, the best out there.  Why are you all
> moving to the higher versions, anyway?  Just for SIP endpoints?
>
>
> Paul Choi wrote:
> > Linux is just an OS. What people put on top of it is
> > largely their choice. If Cisco installed wine and ran
> > IIS on top of that for their web server, then that
> > would likely run slowly.
> >
> > I am not informed on the Linux-based CCM boxen but I'd
> > certainly hope that Cisco is using apache to serve its
> > webpages. I've heard that the DB is Informix or
> > something like that.
> >
> > My point being, it doesn't matter what OS you are
> > using - if you put a slow application on it, it'll
> > still run slow no matter what you do to it.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --- Jonathan Charles <jonvoip at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So, I am curious why all of us are putting up with
> >> this.
> >>
> >> For years we were all told that Linux was superior,
> >> that Linux was how
> >> a real web server should function...
> >>
> >> Now, we have CCM 5 and CCM 6... and the web server
> >> performance, is,
> >> er, well, how do we put this...
> >>
> >> Here we go. It is far worse than anything Microsoft
> >> has ever released.
> >> I think Microsoft BOB would be a better web server
> >> than whatever crap
> >> is on the backend of this RedHat monstrosity.
> >>
> >> In CallManger 4.3, using Microsoft WINDOWS(!!!!!!)
> >> IIS and Cisco
> >> Tomcat, I can scream through all of the web pages;
> >> do DB reads in
> >> nanoseconds; do DB inserts almost as quick, and I
> >> have never seen a
> >> message on my web browser saying, 'Loading, Please
> >> Wait'
> >>
> >> I mean, seriously, this is godawful slow.
> >>
> >> I just installed CCM5.1.3 on an HP 7845, 4GB of RAM,
> >> dual dual core
> >> Xeons... and all I see at every mouse click is
> >> 'Loading, Please
> >> Wait'..
> >>
> >> Is Cisco punishing us for something? Did we offend
> >> them in some way? I
> >> am at a point where I am wondering if I should tell
> >> customers about
> >> these performance issues prior to picking a version
> >> ('if you want to
> >> be able to administer this and not slash your
> >> wrists, waiting for the
> >> home page to load, you may want to go with 4.3...')
> >> because I am tired
> >> of hearing about it afterwards...
> >>
> >> Seriously guys, I mean, this pretty much kills
> >> whatever argument you
> >> Linux freaks had that this was better than
> >> Windows... add the whole
> >> SFTP requirement, and you can see why the Microsoft
> >> side won this
> >> argument...
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