[cisco-voip] SIP Trunk with FAC/CMC

[Jonathan Charles]

I don't understand why a FAC or CMC wouldn't work with H.323, that
doesn't make sense... the CCM is just requesting this info prior to
routing the call... it is part of the route-pattern, what difference
does it make where the call goes?


Jonathan

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Now you know my conundrum. It's not very clear with respect to SIP trunks.
> The document states it requires MGCP and doesn't work on H323. That's it, no
> mention of SIP.
>
> Lelio
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Aman Chugh
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> Cc: Jonathan Charles ; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk with FAC/CMC
>
>
> I spoke to soon , Yes it is not supported on H.323 analog gateways
>
> H.323 analog gateways do not support FAC or CMC because these gateways
> cannot play tones
>
> Aman
>
>
> On 4/8/08, Aman Chugh <aman.chugh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure if FAC/CMC is not supported with H.323, I believe FAC/CMC is
> a ccm function and should be gateway protocol independent. As these are
> prompted and enabled on ccm Route patterns.
> >
> > Maybe Wes or Ryan can confirm.
> >
> >
> > Aman
> >
> >
> > On 4/8/08, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I'm sure you use the same route patterns with H323 and FXO ports
> but we already know that FACs are not supported on those.
> > >
> > > Any of the Cisco guys have any comments? I guess I could open a TAC case
> for confirmation.
> > >
> > >
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> > > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> > > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
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> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Aman Chugh
> > > To: Lelio Fulgenzi
> > > Cc: Jonathan Charles ; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk with FAC/CMC
> > >
> > >
> > > SIP route patterns are used for domain routing/URL dialing , You can use
> regular route  patterns for digit dialing and as J said it should work with
> regular route patterns.
> > >
> > >
> > > Aman
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/8/08, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> > > > In the documentation, it has special instructions for SIP route
> patterns and
> > > > the configuration options listed does not have FAC/CMC.
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone out there using SIP trunks with the regular route patterns
> or do
> > > > you have to use the SIP route patterns?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > > > Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> > > > (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > "Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip at gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> > > > Cc: <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:20 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Trunk with FAC/CMC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I wouldn't see why not, just configure them on the route-patterns and
> > > > > point the route-patterns to the trunks (RLs, RGs...)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm not sure if I posted this before, but can anyone confirm that
> FACs
> > > > >> are
> > > > >> not compatible with SIP trunks? We heavily use FACs for our
> residence and
> > > > >> will likely need to go forward with continuing to use them. We
> wanted to
> > > > >> evaluate SIP trunks as a replacement to our PRI service but when I
> looked
> > > > >> up
> > > > >> a SIP route pattern in the CCM 6.1 admin guide there was no FAC/CMC
> > > > >> option.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Comments?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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> > > > >> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> > > > >> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G
> 2W1
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