[cisco-voip] cisco-voip Digest, Vol 58, Issue 242
Tom Sparks
acydgod at gmail.com
Wed Aug 27 17:59:47 EDT 2008
We use Clarus for our CallManager monitoring (4.x-6.x). I had looked into
opsmanager as well but agree with Dennis.
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1. Re: Example voip call packet loss audio files (MILLS, Mark)
2. Re: Example voip call packet loss audio files (Sean Walberg)
3. Monitoring CallManager (Mike Brooks)
4. Re: Monitoring CallManager (Dennis Heim)
5. Re: Monitoring CallManager (Sean Walberg)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:44:43 +0930
From: "MILLS, Mark" <mark.mills at baesystems.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Example voip call packet loss audio files
To: "Tim Smith" <thsglobal at gmail.com>
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
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Thanks for that. I was hoping to get something that I can use to show
"this is 1% packet loss, this is 10% packet loss" with a more measurable
known cause behind it than in the link you provided, but in the event of not
finding anything else these samples will be good enough to get my the point
across :)
Thanks!
Cheers,
Mark
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From: smithsonianwa at gmail.com on behalf of Tim Smith
Sent: Fri 8/22/2008 8:23 PM
To: MILLS, Mark
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Example voip call packet loss audio files
This link is probably easier ;)
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_white_paper09186a00
801545e4.shtml
Cheers,
Tim
On 8/22/08, Tim Smith <thsglobal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cisco has samples in their troubleshooting stuff
>
>
http://tools.cisco.com/search/display?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fen%2F
US%2Ftech%2Ftk652%2Ftk698%2Ftechnologies_white_paper09186a00801545e4.shtml&p
os=2&strqueryid=2&websessionid=ErPKe4W5mMs5khTrIYwMeCK
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
>
> On 8/22/08, MILLS, Mark <mark.mills at baesystems.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> This is slightly OT, but I am doing a presentation on VoIP within our
>> organisation, and want to try to explain the important of network
quality.
>>
>> I am trying to find somewhere I can download example audio files showing
a
>> call with various levels of jitter and packet loss without much luck. Im
>> hoping to avoid having to produce these audio files myself, so if anyone
has
>> some handy that they want to share, or know where I can find some, your
help
>> would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:32:16 -0500
From: "Sean Walberg" <sean at ertw.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Example voip call packet loss audio files
To: "MILLS, Mark" <mark.mills at baesystems.com>
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I've got a capture of 20% loss up at http://ertw.com/~sean/sharkfest/ , it
was part of a presentation I gave on using Wireshark to troubleshoot VoIP.
The file is called droppedrtp.cap.
FWIW, I generated it by passing the traffic through a Linux box using the
iptables hashlimit module to limit the conversation to 40pps. Something
similar could be done with policing on a router.
Sean
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:14 AM, MILLS, Mark
<mark.mills at baesystems.com>wrote:
>
> Thanks for that. I was hoping to get something that I can use to show
> "this is 1% packet loss, this is 10% packet loss" with a more measurable
> known cause behind it than in the link you provided, but in the event of
not
> finding anything else these samples will be good enough to get my the
point
> across :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smithsonianwa at gmail.com on behalf of Tim Smith
> Sent: Fri 8/22/2008 8:23 PM
> To: MILLS, Mark
> Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Example voip call packet loss audio files
>
> This link is probably easier ;)
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_white_paper09186a00
801545e4.shtml
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
> On 8/22/08, Tim Smith <thsglobal at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cisco has samples in their troubleshooting stuff
> >
> >
>
http://tools.cisco.com/search/display?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fen%2F
US%2Ftech%2Ftk652%2Ftk698%2Ftechnologies_white_paper09186a00801545e4.shtml&p
os=2&strqueryid=2&websessionid=ErPKe4W5mMs5khTrIYwMeCK
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On 8/22/08, MILLS, Mark <mark.mills at baesystems.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> This is slightly OT, but I am doing a presentation on VoIP within our
> >> organisation, and want to try to explain the important of network
> quality.
> >>
> >> I am trying to find somewhere I can download example audio files
showing
> a
> >> call with various levels of jitter and packet loss without much luck.
> Im
> >> hoping to avoid having to produce these audio files myself, so if
anyone
> has
> >> some handy that they want to share, or know where I can find some, your
> help
> >> would be greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> "Warning:
> >> The information contained in this email and any attached files is
> >> confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended
> >> recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any
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> >> sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus
> >> checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to
> >> your computer."
> >>
> >>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:34:54 -0400
From: "Mike Brooks" <2xccie2b at gmail.com>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Monitoring CallManager
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
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Hi everyone,
What are the most common methods used to monitor a large enterprise
VOIP environment (multiple clusters) ? All clusters are running CM
5.x or 6.x (locked down appliances).
Ops Manager ?
RTMT ?
SNMP MIBs ?
...etc
Has anyone had any success with ops manager ? I have had nothing but
problems with ops manager. Your suggestions/input would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
Mike Brooks
CCIE#16027 (R&S)
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:38:42 -0500
From: "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Monitoring CallManager
To: "Mike Brooks" <2xccie2b at gmail.com>, <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
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<996250EC07A6A745A03BD35A7696AD76F9AE5C at VHEXCHANGE3.corp.cdw.com>
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I've found Operations Manager to be less than fulfilling. Most of my
enterprise customers are using some type of open platform (Zenoss, Cacti,
Nagios, etc). With some good PHP or perl scripting you can monitor just
about anything from either the SNMP MIBs and the axl serviceability API.
Dennis Heim
Network Voice Engineer
Berbee
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
Carmel, IN? 46032
317.569.4255 Office
317.569.4201 Fax
317.694.6070 Cell
dennis.heim at cdw.com
www.berbee.com
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Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:35 AM
To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] Monitoring CallManager
Hi everyone,
What are the most common methods used to monitor a large enterprise
VOIP environment (multiple clusters) ? All clusters are running CM
5.x or 6.x (locked down appliances).
Ops Manager ?
RTMT ?
SNMP MIBs ?
...etc
Has anyone had any success with ops manager ? I have had nothing but
problems with ops manager. Your suggestions/input would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
Mike Brooks
CCIE#16027 (R&S)
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:49:02 -0500
From: "Sean Walberg" <sean at ertw.com>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Monitoring CallManager
To: "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com>
Cc: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
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Anyone have some Cacti templates to share? So far all I have is the number
of registered phones. The usual Linux CPU MIBs don't respond, and I'm still
digging through the Cisco MIB files.
Thanks
Sean
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Dennis Heim <Dennis.Heim at cdw.com> wrote:
> I've found Operations Manager to be less than fulfilling. Most of my
> enterprise customers are using some type of open platform (Zenoss, Cacti,
> Nagios, etc). With some good PHP or perl scripting you can monitor just
> about anything from either the SNMP MIBs and the axl serviceability API.
>
> Dennis Heim
> Network Voice Engineer
> Berbee
> 11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225
> Carmel, IN 46032
>
> 317.569.4255 Office
> 317.569.4201 Fax
> 317.694.6070 Cell
> dennis.heim at cdw.com
> www.berbee.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike Brooks
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:35 AM
> To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [cisco-voip] Monitoring CallManager
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> What are the most common methods used to monitor a large enterprise
> VOIP environment (multiple clusters) ? All clusters are running CM
> 5.x or 6.x (locked down appliances).
>
> Ops Manager ?
> RTMT ?
> SNMP MIBs ?
> ...etc
>
> Has anyone had any success with ops manager ? I have had nothing but
> problems with ops manager. Your suggestions/input would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Brooks
> CCIE#16027 (R&S)
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