[cisco-voip] Rewritten CCMUSER in AXL
Bill Simon
bills at psu.edu
Wed Jul 9 12:12:41 EDT 2008
Just wondering aloud ... would the Cisco Unified Applications
Environment (CUAE) be useful here? I know it can build IP phone apps
but what about web apps like what we're discussing? Anyone have
experience with it?
Bill Simon wrote:
> I think if we really got rolling with AXL we'd do that, point AXL to a
> TFTP server (CM subscriber) or even just put up a dedicated AXL
> "subscriber" server.
>
> We may or may not extend the CCMUser functionality. At this point I'm
> mainly interested in duplicating what's there now and giving it our own
> look and feel and auth.
>
>
>
> Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>> There are also service parameters that allow you to limit the number
>> AXL/SOAP processes. We have a dedicated TFTP/DHCP server, so that's
>> where I'd send our SOAP calls to. Let it work for it's bread.
>>
>> Lelio
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> ...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length, this
>> 7' crossover cable
>> is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan double dutch
>> leagues.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Tim Smith <mailto:thsglobal at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Bill Simon <mailto:bills at psu.edu>
>> *Cc:* Cisco Voip <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:40 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] Rewritten CCMUSER in AXL
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Sorry. I realise how the AXL app is not on a CCM server. I have been
>> writing my own AXL tools / scripts in VB.net :) But mostly I have
>> been writing stuff for admin, to speed up provisioning and deal with
>> shortcomings of BAT in CCM 4.x :)
>>
>> The point is though that you have to send calls to a CCM server that
>> will make the DB changes. This part can have an impact on the server
>> obviously. Cisco has an IVT program for testing 3rd party programs
>> and verifying they have no adverse impact.
>>
>> Did you have plans to extend the CCMUser functionality?
>>
>> I think the SSO I saw was Citrix - it was a while back. But it had a
>> pre-defined list of supported apps. And then for unknown apps you
>> could train it by performing a login, and pointing out which text
>> boxes contain username / password details etc. It was pretty clever!
>> I'm not sure how it managed a password change though!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu
>> <mailto:bills at psu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> The point is that it's NOT on a publisher or any Call Manager.
>>
>> The AXL app, hosted on a separate machine, can point to the
>> publisher for the SOAP calls.
>>
>> As for filling in auth fields ... I don't know. Not ours.
>> Doesn't sound like a SSO, more like a login macro or something.
>>
>> Maybe you could proxy credentials through to CCMUser on 6.x but
>> I know there's some javascript at work on the login screen that
>> may frustrate such attempts.
>>
>> Tim Smith wrote:
>>
>> It is an approved way to go... but would it be a dedicated
>> publisher? or would it be call processing as well?
>>
>> Dont most SSO solutions fill in web page auth fields for you
>> if you train them?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Bill Simon <bills at psu.edu
>> <mailto:bills at psu.edu> <mailto:bills at psu.edu
>> <mailto:bills at psu.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>> By the way, we did this before by hacking up the CCMUser
>> in 4.x. As
>> we look forward to moving to 6.1, hacking up the web site
>> itself is
>> not an option so we're looking for a more Cisco-approved
>> way of
>> doing it. AXL seems to be the direction to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:
>>
>> I too am interested in this.
>>
>> Lelio
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>> Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
>> Ontario
>> N1G 2W1
>> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> ...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is
>> the same
>> length, this 7' crossover cable
>> is not regulation issue for most competitive
>> Manhattan double
>> dutch leagues.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Simon"
>> <bills at psu.edu <mailto:bills at psu.edu>
>> <mailto:bills at psu.edu <mailto:bills at psu.edu>>>
>>
>> To: "Cisco Voip" <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
>> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>> <mailto:cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>>>
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:26 PM
>> Subject: [cisco-voip] Rewritten CCMUSER in AXL
>>
>>
>> Has anyone rewritten the CCMUser interface in
>> AXL or
>> otherwise? Or know a company that does this sort
>> of thing?
>>
>> Specifically, we want to provide CCMUser to our
>> users but
>> use our single sign-on system for authentication
>> and then
>> CCM's internal LDAP for authorization. But even
>> if this
>> specific task hasn't been done, I'm interested in
>> hearing
>> about anyone's experience rewriting CCMUser.
>>
>> Bill
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