From jared Thu Jan 16 13:03:07 2003 Received: (from jared@localhost) by puck.nether.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) id h0GI37Jn010695 for extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:03:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:03:07 -0500 From: Jared Mauch To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <20030116180307.GA10306@puck.nether.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:04:00 -0500 Subject: [e-nsp] list converted to mailman X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:03:07 -0000 hello. i've converted the list from smartlist to mailman. you can visit the list info page at the following link: http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/extreme-nsp if you want to unsubscribe, or don't know your password go to the last link on the page and enter your email address and click 'unsubscribe' or edit options. enjoy, - jared -- Jared Mauch | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net clue++; | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/ My statements are only mine. From kwong@masergy.com Thu Jan 16 15:01:05 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be m-va-bsod03.add0.masergy.com puck.NOSPAM (mail.masergy.com [64.47.12.2]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GK15ak015553 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:01:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2BD9A.3357CD47" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:02:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4E43B7A82443DE478E08E0D08C0CF18ED68ECC@m-va-bsod03.add0.masergy.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Extreme VLAN Stats via SNMP Thread-Index: AcK9mjNPROJl8zOHRwaAgC/MTA1z4g== From: "Ken Wong" To: Subject: [e-nsp] Extreme VLAN Stats via SNMP X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:01:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BD9A.3357CD47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a way to collect stats on a per vlan basis using SNMP on a Black Diamond? =20 Thanks, Ken ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BD9A.3357CD47 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is there a way to collect stats on a per vlan basis using SNMP on a Black Diamond?

 

Thanks,

Ken

=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2BD9A.3357CD47-- From mike@linx.net Thu Jan 16 17:38:02 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be london.linx.net puck.NOSPAM (root@london.linx.net [195.66.232.34]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GMc1ak026250 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:38:01 -0500 Received: from mike (helo=localhost) by london.linx.net with local-esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18ZIfZ-0001UG-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:39:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:39:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Hughes To: Ken Wong Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Extreme VLAN Stats via SNMP In-Reply-To: <4E43B7A82443DE478E08E0D08C0CF18ED68ECC@m-va-bsod03.add0.masergy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:38:02 -0000 On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Ken Wong wrote: > Is there a way to collect stats on a per vlan basis using SNMP on a > Black Diamond? Not that I'm aware of, I don't think there is a hook for per-vlan counters in the Inferno chipset. It's something that quite a lot of people have been asking vendors for in various ways for some time on "sub-interfaces" (ATM, Frame, dot1q interfaces). Mike -- Mike Hughes Chief Technical Officer London Internet Exchange mike@linx.net http://www.linx.net/ "Only one thing in life is certain: init is Process #1" From kwong@masergy.com Thu Jan 16 18:49:50 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be m-va-bsod03.add0.masergy.com puck.NOSPAM (mail.masergy.com [64.47.12.2]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0GNnnak028827 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:49:49 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [e-nsp] Extreme VLAN Stats via SNMP Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4E43B7A82443DE478E08E0D08C0CF18EBA2E5E@m-va-bsod03.add0.masergy.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [e-nsp] Extreme VLAN Stats via SNMP Thread-Index: AcK9sCT7Y4TqqIBgQIqOtbQS7TKagAACVb3A From: "Ken Wong" To: "Mike Hughes" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by puck.nether.net id h0GNnnak028827 cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:49:50 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > Not that I'm aware of, I don't think there is a hook for per-vlan counters > in the Inferno chipset. > > It's something that quite a lot of people have been asking vendors for in > various ways for some time on "sub-interfaces" (ATM, Frame, dot1q > interfaces). > SMON seems to be the ticket for collecting per vlan stats, but I've not been able to read the SMON MIB with anything but 0's. Anyone with luck running SMON on the BD? From dani@danielcp.net Thu Jan 16 20:08:51 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be s1.intelideas.com puck.NOSPAM (s1.mesena.mad.es.intelideas.com [217.75.224.146]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0H18oak031740 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:08:51 -0500 Received: from s1.claudio-coello.intelideas.com (s0-0.r1.claudio-coello.mad.es.intelideas.net [217.75.224.170]) 49CFD178139 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 02:10:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1])id ACFF213EC9 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 02:10:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from dcp (dani-Adsl.Mesena.MAD.ES.INTELIDEAS.NET [217.75.235.26]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested)id BCD3A13EC6 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 02:10:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Daniel Concepcion Organization: Personal - http://www.danielcp.net To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 02:10:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-NCC-RegID: es.intelideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200301170210.05088.dani@danielcp.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Subject: [e-nsp] Problems with Dot1q and Cisco Routers X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:08:51 -0000 Hi People, I have the following problem: When I connect two cisco routers to the switch and use dot1q vlan for interconnect the two routers. The OSPF adjacency in the cisco routers change from loading to full every few minutes. I have cfg the vlan with the IP protocol and the ports are also in use in other vlan as untag without any problem and with the extreme talking ospf with the cisco routers without issues. Do you know if i need cfg the vlan in the extreme with any thing special ? Is out there any know issue with this configuration, I don't find anything :( Regards, Daniel From f.prout@silicomp.fr Tue Mar 4 13:23:01 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be sierra.silicomp.fr puck.NOSPAM (sierra.silicomp.fr [194.51.78.35]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.8/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h24IN0RL014164 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 13:23:01 -0500 Received: from PPSRT17 ([172.16.69.6]) by sierra.silicomp.fr (8.12.8/8.12.6) with SMTP id h24IKmox005869 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:20:49 +0100 From: "Fabian PROUT" To: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:23:12 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.21 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [e-nsp] [extreme-nsp] PBR Flow-Redirect X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 18:23:02 -0000 Hello, Have any one experienced any problem with the Flow-Redirect? There is a limitation of 64k flow, does it mean that at 64k active connections the switch will failed the redirection? Thanks to share your experience, Fabian. From scott@replicenter.com Thu May 29 16:22:31 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be appleton.carpathiahost.com puck.NOSPAM (mail.carpathiahost.com [205.177.126.13]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4TKMVlb015283 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:22:31 -0400 Received: from thruportntljld (dolphin.thruport.com [64.237.96.157]) by appleton.carpathiahost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A813416F70E for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <024601c3261f$b5671820$9d60ed40@thruportntljld> From: "K. Scott Bethke" To: Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 16:20:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [e-nsp] Help for cisco guy X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:22:32 -0000 Im looking at converting a Cisco based border to Extreme and would love to get my hands on some sample configs that would support a typical nSP setup. Most of the stuff on extreme's site and in their manuals is for enterprise networks. Has anyone noticed any stability issues with running Extreme 6800 series with eBGP.. also interested to hear from anyone running them in confeds. -Scott From kligs@blurred.net Thu May 29 16:45:25 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be mail.blurred.net puck.NOSPAM (parable.blurred.net [207.34.223.20]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4TKjPlb016948 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:45:25 -0400 Received: by mail.blurred.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47C7974414; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 16:51:32 -0400 From: Daniel Kligerman To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Help for cisco guy Message-ID: <20030529165131.A58602@parable.blurred.net> References: <024601c3261f$b5671820$9d60ed40@thruportntljld> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <024601c3261f$b5671820$9d60ed40@thruportntljld>; from scott@replicenter.com on Thu, May 29, 2003 at 04:20:12PM -0400 X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:45:26 -0000 Hi Scott, A while back I did some testing with a BD6808 running BGP with a Cisco router. When the full routing table was transmitted to the BD, it became unresponsive for a lengthy period of time, and never seemd to fully recover. BGP with a limited number of routes seems to work fine - we have been running a couple BDs with default route only for a while with no stability issues. This is with an Extreme software revision from maybe 8-12 months ago, so maybe they have improved things since. Dan On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 04:20:12PM -0400, K. Scott Bethke wrote: > Im looking at converting a Cisco based border to Extreme and would love to > get my hands on some sample configs that would support a typical nSP setup. > Most of the stuff on extreme's site and in their manuals is for enterprise > networks. Has anyone noticed any stability issues with running Extreme > 6800 series with eBGP.. also interested to hear from anyone running them > in confeds. > > -Scott > > _______________________________________________ > extreme-nsp mailing list > extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net > http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/extreme-nsp > From swmike@swm.pp.se Thu May 29 17:07:35 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be uplift.swm.pp.se puck.NOSPAM (root@swm.pp.se [195.54.133.5]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4TL7Ylb018682 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:07:34 -0400 Received: from localhost (swmike@localhost) by uplift.swm.pp.se (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h4TL6h427860; Thu, 29 May 2003 23:06:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:06:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Daniel Kligerman Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Help for cisco guy In-Reply-To: <20030529165131.A58602@parable.blurred.net> Message-ID: Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:07:35 -0000 On Thu, 29 May 2003, Daniel Kligerman wrote: > A while back I did some testing with a BD6808 running BGP with a Cisco > router. When the full routing table was transmitted to the BD, it became > unresponsive for a lengthy period of time, and never seemd to fully > recover. If you are going to run BGP with Extreme you either want latest 6.1.8, 6.1.9 or you want 6.2.2b108 (or later). You definately do not want earlier 6.2.1 or 6.2.2 than that, because they have a ipfdb efficiency problem when doing reroutes. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se From SEvans@bvub.com Tue Jun 10 11:38:11 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be halflife.bvub.com puck.NOSPAM (halflife.bvub.com [216.184.66.7]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5AFcBlb022207 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:38:11 -0400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C32F66.2DAE7A1E" Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:37:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4F15F15DCB1EE344B2EC30621CEE57093E622C@halflife.bvub.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: VMAN ethertypes thread-index: AcMvZizHmLwWirUZSuWtlOcCkDyZOw== From: "Evans, Stacy" To: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:12:21 -0400 Subject: [e-nsp] VMAN ethertypes X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:38:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C32F66.2DAE7A1E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We currently have 5 Extreme DB 6808s setup to transport customer's VLANs via VMAN tunnels.=20 To accomplish this it is required to change the default ethertype of the switch from 8100 to 9100. That works fine except when we want to trunk VLANs from an ethertype 8100 switch and terminate them on the 6808s (vs. just transporting them to another switch). I tried creating a new "Protocol" on the 6808 and assigning it an ethertype of 8100 but that didn't work either. A packet sniff of the Alcatel OSR to 6808 connection identifies the difference in ethertypes being used. I can use untagged ports and connect the switches but the number of ports required would be very high. Any suggestions on how I can have both 8100 and 9100 ethertypes supported on the same 6808? =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C32F66.2DAE7A1E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We currently have 5 Extreme DB 6808s setup to = transport customer’s VLANs via VMAN tunnels. =

To accomplish this it is required to change the = default ethertype of the switch from 8100 to = 9100.

That works fine except when we want to trunk VLANs from an ethertype 8100 switch and terminate them on the 6808s (vs. just transporting them to another = switch). I tried creating a new “Protocol” on the 6808 and assigning = it an ethertype of 8100 but that didn’t work = either. A packet sniff of the Alcatel OSR to 6808 connection identifies the = difference in ethertypes being = used.

I can use untagged ports and connect the switches but = the number of ports required would be very high.

Any suggestions on how I can have both 8100 and 9100 = ethertypes supported on the same = 6808?

 

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C32F66.2DAE7A1E-- From f.prout@silicomp.fr Tue Jun 10 12:42:09 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be sierra.silicomp.fr puck.NOSPAM (sierra.silicomp.fr [194.51.78.35]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5AGg8lb029448 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:42:09 -0400 Received: from ppsrt17 ([172.16.69.6]) by sierra.silicomp.fr (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5AGYmPR008754; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:49 +0200 From: "Fabian PROUT" To: "'Evans, Stacy'" Subject: RE: [e-nsp] VMAN ethertypes Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:39:53 +0200 Organization: SILICOMP Message-ID: <005901c32f6e$ebe57f60$064510ac@silicomp.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01C32F7F.AF6FD600" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <4F15F15DCB1EE344B2EC30621CEE57093E622C@halflife.bvub.com> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.21 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:42:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C32F7F.AF6FD600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stacy, If you have configured a Tagged port on the BD that is connected to the OSR, so it is normal that the BD use the 9100 Ethertype for 1Q link. You cannot specify to use either 8100 or 9100 Ethertype for 1Q link in order to insert a switch in your MAN that cannot interpret 9100 Ethertype. As you say, you will need a lot of ports. If you don't need GE ports you can used a Summit (not 24e3 or 24e2 there are not vMAN-enable). (The 'Protocol' creation is used for dynamic VLAN assignation). Regards, Fabian. -----Original Message----- From: extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Evans, Stacy Sent: mardi 10 juin 2003 17:37 To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [e-nsp] VMAN ethertypes We currently have 5 Extreme DB 6808s setup to transport customer's VLANs via VMAN tunnels. To accomplish this it is required to change the default ethertype of the switch from 8100 to 9100. That works fine except when we want to trunk VLANs from an ethertype 8100 switch and terminate them on the 6808s (vs. just transporting them to another switch). I tried creating a new "Protocol" on the 6808 and assigning it an ethertype of 8100 but that didn't work either. A packet sniff of the Alcatel OSR to 6808 connection identifies the difference in ethertypes being used. I can use untagged ports and connect the switches but the number of ports required would be very high. Any suggestions on how I can have both 8100 and 9100 ethertypes supported on the same 6808? ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C32F7F.AF6FD600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hi=20 Stacy,
 
If you=20 have configured a Tagged port on the BD that is connected to the OSR, so = it is=20 normal that the BD use the 9100 Ethertype for 1Q = link.
 
You=20 cannot specify to use either 8100 or 9100 Ethertype for 1Q link in order = to=20 insert a switch in your MAN that cannot interpret 9100=20 Ethertype.
As you=20 say, you will need a lot of ports. If you don't need GE ports you can = used a=20 Summit (not 24e3 or 24e2 there are not vMAN-enable).
 
(The=20 'Protocol' creation is used for dynamic VLAN = assignation).
 
Regards, Fabian.
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net=20 [mailto:extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of = Evans,=20 Stacy
Sent: mardi 10 juin 2003 17:37
To:=20 extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [e-nsp] VMAN=20 ethertypes

We currently have 5 = Extreme DB=20 6808s setup to transport customer’s VLANs via VMAN=20 tunnels.

To accomplish this it is = required=20 to change the default ethertype of the = switch from=20 8100 to 9100.

That works fine except = when we=20 want to trunk VLANs from an ethertype 8100 switch and terminate them on the = 6808s (vs.=20 just transporting them to another switch). I tried creating a new = “Protocol”=20 on the 6808 and assigning it an ethertype = of 8100=20 but that didn’t work either. A packet sniff of the Alcatel OSR = to 6808=20 connection identifies the difference in ethertypes=20 being used.

I can use untagged ports = and=20 connect the switches but the number of ports required would be very=20 high.

Any suggestions on how I = can have=20 both 8100 and 9100 ethertypes supported on = the same=20 6808?

 

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_005A_01C32F7F.AF6FD600-- From vusi@mandebele.com Wed Jul 30 13:12:33 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be ti-mx2-1.intmail.trilogyinternet.net puck.NOSPAM ([81.20.0.74]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UHCSGX027460 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:12:29 -0400 Received: from cannabis (unverified [81.20.2.5]) by mail.trilogyinternet.net for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:49:20 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c35700$438741a0$0100a8c0@cannabis> From: "Vusi Ndebele" To: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:08:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C356C5.966037A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:12:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C356C5.966037A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody know a good supplier of refurb extreme boxes. After reading the = spec I would be happy to wave goodbye to some Cisco 2948G-L3's in favour = of the Summit 48i/si. Also, does anybody haave an idea how much the full = L3 upgrade costs. Thanks in advance Vusi ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C356C5.966037A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anybody know a good supplier of refurb = extreme=20 boxes. After reading the spec I would be happy to wave goodbye to some = Cisco=20 2948G-L3's in favour of the Summit 48i/si. Also, does anybody haave an = idea how=20 much the full L3 upgrade costs.
 
 
Thanks in advance
 
Vusi
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C356C5.966037A0-- From vusi@mandebele.com Wed Jul 30 13:51:41 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be ti-mx2-1.intmail.trilogyinternet.net puck.NOSPAM ([81.20.0.74]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UHpbGX030487 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:51:37 -0400 Received: from cannabis (unverified [81.20.2.5]) by mail.trilogyinternet.net ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:28:28 +0100 Message-ID: <004001c35705$bd04d790$0100a8c0@cannabis> From: "Vusi Ndebele" To: , "Ejay Hire" References: Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:47:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C356CB.10568000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:51:42 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C356CB.10568000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's interesting, a bit worrying, but interesting none the less. Do = you have any idea about the amount of memory in the box and max routing = table entries for the purpose of running BGP on the box. Vusi ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ejay Hire=20 To: Vusi Ndebele=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: RE: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si Hi. I've worked with both extreme and Cisco, and would like to offer = an opinion. I have never been happy with the extreme's ability to do = redundancy (I.e. hsrp/vrrp) and/or have redundant connections to = multiple switches. They are very unstable in this configuration and = Extreme support is quite clueless, even if you have a = Beryllium-super-platinum service contract. -Ejay -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Vusi Ndebele [mailto:vusi@mandebele.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:09 PM To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si Anybody know a good supplier of refurb extreme boxes. After reading = the spec I would be happy to wave goodbye to some Cisco 2948G-L3's in = favour of the Summit 48i/si. Also, does anybody haave an idea how much = the full L3 upgrade costs. Thanks in advance Vusi ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C356CB.10568000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's interesting, a bit worrying, but = interesting=20 none the less. Do you have any idea about the amount of memory in the = box and=20 max routing table entries for the purpose of running BGP on  the=20 box.
 
Vusi
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ejay = Hire=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 = 10:18=20 AM
Subject: RE: [e-nsp] Extreme = Summit=20 48i/si

Hi.  I've worked with both extreme and = Cisco, and=20 would like to offer an opinion.  I have never been happy with the = extreme's ability to do redundancy (I.e. hsrp/vrrp) and/or have = redundant=20 connections to multiple switches.  They are very unstable in this = configuration and Extreme support is quite clueless, even if you have = a=20 Beryllium-super-platinum service contract.
 
-Ejay
 
From: = Vusi Ndebele=20 [mailto:vusi@mandebele.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 = 8:09=20 PM
To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: = [e-nsp]=20 Extreme Summit 48i/si

Anybody know a good supplier of = refurb extreme=20 boxes. After reading the spec I would be happy to wave goodbye to some = Cisco=20 2948G-L3's in favour of the Summit 48i/si. Also, does anybody haave an = idea=20 how much the full L3 upgrade costs.
 
 
Thanks in advance
 
Vusi
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C356CB.10568000-- From swmike@swm.pp.se Wed Jul 30 14:15:42 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be uplift.swm.pp.se puck.NOSPAM (root@swm.pp.se [195.54.133.5]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UIFbGX031769 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:15:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (swmike@localhost) by uplift.swm.pp.se (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h6UICRr28697; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:12:27 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:12:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: Vusi Ndebele Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si In-Reply-To: <004001c35705$bd04d790$0100a8c0@cannabis> Message-ID: Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Ejay Hire cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:15:43 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Vusi Ndebele wrote: The 48i/si is fixed memory (128 megs). It'll take a full routing table with that memory but not multiple feeds. Considering the text below, I beg to differ. We use ESRP and it has proven to work well. Make sure you have recent software though, don't run two year old images. 6.2.2b108 or later has proven very stable for us in an ISP environment. > That's interesting, a bit worrying, but interesting none the less. Do > you have any idea about the amount of memory in the box and max routing > table entries for the purpose of running BGP on the box. > > Vusi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ejay Hire > To: Vusi Ndebele > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:18 AM > Subject: RE: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si > > > Hi. I've worked with both extreme and Cisco, and would like to offer > an opinion. I have never been happy with the extreme's ability to do > redundancy (I.e. hsrp/vrrp) and/or have redundant connections to > multiple switches. They are very unstable in this configuration and > Extreme support is quite clueless, even if you have a > Beryllium-super-platinum service contract. > > -Ejay > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Vusi Ndebele [mailto:vusi@mandebele.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:09 PM > To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: [e-nsp] Extreme Summit 48i/si > > > Anybody know a good supplier of refurb extreme boxes. After reading the spec I would be happy to wave goodbye to some Cisco 2948G-L3's in favour of the Summit 48i/si. Also, does anybody haave an idea how much the full L3 upgrade costs. > > > Thanks in advance > > Vusi -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se From vusi@mandebele.com Fri Aug 1 04:07:45 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be ti-mx2-1.intmail.trilogyinternet.net puck.NOSPAM ([81.20.0.74]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7187bmE010961 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 04:07:38 -0400 Received: from cannabis (unverified [81.20.2.5]) by mail.trilogyinternet.net for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 08:47:18 +0100 Message-ID: <003701c33fea$c1a9e560$0100a8c0@cannabis> From: "Vusi Ndebele" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C33FB0.15236120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [e-nsp] used Extreme Summit 48i/48si X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 08:07:45 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:06:39 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 08:07:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C33FB0.15236120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody have a vague idea of what I should be paying for a used = 48i, basic or full L3? I have seen prices listed between 4,5k and 5.5k. = Also, does anybody on the list want to get rid of or know a good source? Thanks in advance Vusi ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C33FB0.15236120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anybody have a vague idea of what = I should be=20 paying for a used 48i, basic or full L3? I have seen prices listed = between 4,5k=20 and 5.5k. Also, does anybody on the list want to get rid of or know a = good=20 source?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Vusi
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C33FB0.15236120-- From vusi@mandebele.com Wed Aug 20 07:23:57 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be mail.cabsonline.co.zw puck.NOSPAM ([193.220.34.70]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7KBNmMV010179 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:23:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (helo=cpc0075) by mail.cabsonline.co.zw with smtp (Exim 4.04) id 19pUoa-0007ne-00 for extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:24:00 -0200 Message-ID: <009801c3670d$4d7cdbd0$520010ac@osd.cabs.domain> From: "Vusi Ndebele" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:18:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01C3671D.98DDEFA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [e-nsp] existence of life check X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:23:58 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C3671D.98DDEFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salutations Does life exist on this list. I have recently got some 48i's and just = wanted to know if can use this list as a resource. Otherwise somebody might be king enough to point me in the direction of = a livelier extreme list. Regards Vusi Also, any chance of anybody wishing to impart some extreme webpage login = details. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C3671D.98DDEFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Salutations
 
Does life exist on this list. I have = recently got=20 some 48i's and just wanted to know if can use this list as a=20 resource.
Otherwise somebody might be king enough = to point me=20 in the direction of a livelier extreme list.
 
 
Regards
 
 
Vusi
 
Also, any chance of anybody wishing to = impart some=20 extreme webpage login details.
------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C3671D.98DDEFA0-- From hasanga.hendehewa@ericsson.com Wed Aug 20 08:18:12 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be ish7.ericsson.com.au puck.NOSPAM (ish7.ericsson.com.au [61.88.9.195]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7KCI6MV013511 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:18:07 -0400 Received: from eaubrnt019.epa.ericsson.se ([146.11.31.193]) h7KCFIF24904; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:15:19 +1000 (EST) Received: by eaubrnt019.epa.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:17:37 +1000 Message-ID: From: "Hasanga Hendehewa (BR/EPA)" To: "'Vusi Ndebele'" , extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: RE: [e-nsp] existence of life check Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:17:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C36715.0B831520" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:18:12 -0000 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C36715.0B831520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" check out http://enug.2017networks.net/mailman/listinfo/enug -----Original Message----- From: Vusi Ndebele [mailto:vusi@mandebele.com] Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 9:19 PM To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [e-nsp] existence of life check Salutations Does life exist on this list. I have recently got some 48i's and just wanted to know if can use this list as a resource. Otherwise somebody might be king enough to point me in the direction of a livelier extreme list. Regards Vusi Also, any chance of anybody wishing to impart some extreme webpage login details. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C36715.0B831520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
-----Original Message-----
From: Vusi Ndebele [mailto:vusi@mandebele.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2003 9:19 PM
To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: [e-nsp] existence of life check

Salutations
 
Does life exist on this list. I have recently got some 48i's and just wanted to know if can use this list as a resource.
Otherwise somebody might be king enough to point me in the direction of a livelier extreme list.
 
 
Regards
 
 
Vusi
 
Also, any chance of anybody wishing to impart some extreme webpage login details.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C36715.0B831520-- From elh@outreachnetworks.com Mon Aug 25 23:28:01 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be joseph.outreachnetworks.com puck.NOSPAM (joseph.outreachnetworks.com [65.196.249.147]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7Q3S0CK029229 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:28:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 57744 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2003 03:28:01 -0000 Received: from joseph.outreachnetworks.com (HELO preacher.outreachnetworks.com) (65.196.249.147) by joseph.outreachnetworks.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 2003 03:28:01 -0000 Received: by preacher.outreachnetworks.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:28:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:28:00 -0400 From: "Eric L. Howard" To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Message-ID: <20030826032759.GA1681@outreachnetworks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Favorite-Scripture: Romans 8:18 X-Theocratic-Rule-Advocate: http://www.crossmovement.com X-Registered-Secret-Agent: Agent Double-Naught Seven X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.21 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Subject: [e-nsp] dying ports on a Summit 48? X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 03:28:02 -0000 I'm getting the following errors on a Summit 48 that was picked up used by a client. First time using Extreme Networks hardware and am a bit disappointed by the support/tech offerings of their website [w/o a login that is...] Summit48:5 # enable port all Warning: Port 1 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 2 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 5 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 6 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 13 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 14 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 17 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! Warning: Port 18 failed diagnostics and may not process the packets correctly! It looks like I should just consider these ports dead and move on...am I correct? ~elh -- Eric L. Howard e l h @ o u t r e a c h n e t w o r k s . c o m ------------------------------------------------------------------------ www.OutreachNetworks.com 313.297.9900 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JabberID: elh@jabber.org Advocate of the Theocratic Rule From fernando@tche.br Tue Oct 28 09:39:32 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be pampa.tche.br puck.NOSPAM (pampa.tche.br [200.19.246.22]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SEdTpb015395 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:39:31 -0500 (envelope-from fernando@tche.br) Received: from VAIO (vaio.optiglobe.net.br [200.185.13.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by pampa.tche.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9SEd7Co022175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:39:08 -0200 Message-ID: <174501c39d61$69126e70$650db9c8@VAIO> From: "Fernando Krahe" To: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:40:18 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:39:32 -0000 Gents, I have a black diamond running 6.2.2 (build 18) and running layer 2 only with a single MSM module. This module sudenly stopped to answer, although the switch is still forwarding 160Mpbs of frames correctly and none of the ports are in the vlan Default. Both lan and console interfaces of that module produce no response at all and the master LED became off (system LED is a blinking green, error = amber and environment = green). The moment we connected the console, we received a message about an Address load Exception and some more register information. After those messages there are no more outputs from the console. Have any of you seen this? Thanks, Fernando From panigl@cc.univie.ac.at Tue Oct 28 10:22:15 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be access.cc.univie.ac.at puck.NOSPAM (access.cc.univie.ac.at [192.153.174.2]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id h9SFMBpb019621 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:22:13 -0500 (envelope-from panigl@cc.univie.ac.at) Received: by cc.univie.ac.at (MX V4.1 VAX) id 7; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:21:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:21:57 +0100 From: "Christian Panigl, ACOnet/VIX/UniVie" To: fernando@tche.br Message-ID: <00A280F8.1253F420.7@cc.univie.ac.at> Subject: RE: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond Cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:22:15 -0000 >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:40:18 -0300 >From: "Fernando Krahe" > >I have a black diamond running 6.2.2 (build 18) and running layer 2 only >with a single MSM module. This module sudenly stopped to answer, although >the switch is still forwarding 160Mpbs of frames correctly and none of the >ports are in the vlan Default. Both lan and console interfaces of that >module produce no response at all and the master LED became off (system LED >is a blinking green, error = amber and environment = green). >The moment we connected the console, we received a message about an Address >load Exception and some more register information. After those messages >there are no more outputs from the console. >Have any of you seen this? Hi Fernando, that sounds scary, hope you do have a saved copy of your config ;-( We have been running EW6.2.2b18 on a BD for quite a while at the Vienna Internet eXchange. The main problem we had was that it's occasionally producing phantom HW warnings which are not always clearly distinguishable from real HW warnings. We had one instance of a failing master MSM, however, the failover to the slave MSM worked nicely as expected. On TAC recommendation we recently upgraded one of our BDs to EW6.2.2b134 which is now producing (at least) different phantom HW warnings :-( If you have a support contract I'd suggest that you call them asking for a replacement MSM with a pre-installed config, which you should send them in advance. I don't see good chances that a failover including a synced config will work if your master console is not responding. During a maintenance window you should then do # run diagnostics extended # run diagnostics packet-memory on every interface module (disrupting traffic on the resp module) and on the MSMs (which reload afterwards) be aware that every instance takes a couple of minutes ! Good luck CP --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- --- Christian Panigl : Vienna University Computer Center - ACOnet --- --- UniVie - ACOnet - VIX : -------------------------------------------- --- --- Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Mail: Panigl@CC.UniVie.ac.at (CP8-RIPE) --- --- A-1010 Vienna / Austria : Tel: +43 1 4277-14032 (Fax: -9140) --- --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From swmike@swm.pp.se Tue Oct 28 10:32:02 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be uplift.swm.pp.se puck.NOSPAM (root@swm.pp.se [195.54.133.5]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SFW1pb020877 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:32:02 -0500 (envelope-from swmike@swm.pp.se) Received: from localhost (swmike@localhost) by uplift.swm.pp.se (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h9SFW0d12496 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:32:01 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:32:00 +0100 (CET) From: Mikael Abrahamsson To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond In-Reply-To: <174501c39d61$69126e70$650db9c8@VAIO> Message-ID: Organization: People's Front Against WWW MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:32:02 -0000 On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Fernando Krahe wrote: > Have any of you seen this? Since forwarding is hardware ASIC based, even if the switch goes "braindead" (CPU hung/dead/crashed), forwarding still occurs. There will be no dynamics left though, no new mac address learning etc. Seen this happen on several occasions. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se From fernando@tche.br Tue Oct 28 12:11:08 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be pampa.tche.br puck.NOSPAM (pampa.tche.br [200.19.246.22]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SHB3pb000830 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:11:07 -0500 (envelope-from fernando@tche.br) Received: from VAIO (vaio.optiglobe.net.br [200.185.13.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by pampa.tche.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9SHAkCo006938 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:10:46 -0200 Message-ID: <177a01c39d76$97e5fe00$650db9c8@VAIO> From: "Fernando Krahe" To: "Mikael Abrahamsson" , References: Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:11:56 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Cc: X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:11:08 -0000 Thanks Mikael. The environment is pretty stable. Well, rephrasing I would say it was stable ;-) There are only two switches running layer 2 with a group of routers attached to the same vlan. The changes in the environment occur at a low rate, so although there are no dynamics any more, the switch is still operating as it was before that happened. Thanks, Fernando ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond > On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Fernando Krahe wrote: > > > Have any of you seen this? > > Since forwarding is hardware ASIC based, even if the switch goes > "braindead" (CPU hung/dead/crashed), forwarding still occurs. There will > be no dynamics left though, no new mac address learning etc. > > Seen this happen on several occasions. > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se > > _______________________________________________ > extreme-nsp mailing list > extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/extreme-nsp From fernando@tche.br Tue Oct 28 12:11:14 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be pampa.tche.br puck.NOSPAM (pampa.tche.br [200.19.246.22]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SHBCpb000854 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:11:13 -0500 (envelope-from fernando@tche.br) Received: from VAIO (vaio.optiglobe.net.br [200.185.13.101]) (authenticated bits=0) by pampa.tche.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h9SH9uCo006783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:10:00 -0200 Message-ID: <177901c39d76$7c8c5820$650db9c8@VAIO> From: "Fernando Krahe" To: "Christian Panigl, ACOnet/VIX/UniVie" References: <00A280F8.1253F420.7@cc.univie.ac.at> Subject: Re: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:11:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 17:11:14 -0000 Thanks Christian. This switch is also running as the switching fabric of an IX. There are two BDs for redundancy. The other one is running fine. We scheduled a maintenance window for tonight, when the traffic is much lower. We will run diagnostics on it. Fernando ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Panigl, ACOnet/VIX/UniVie" To: Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:21 PM Subject: RE: [e-nsp] Dead MSM in a Black Diamond > Hi Fernando, > > that sounds scary, hope you do have a saved copy of your config ;-( > > We have been running EW6.2.2b18 on a BD for quite a while at the Vienna > Internet eXchange. The main problem we had was that it's occasionally > producing phantom HW warnings which are not always clearly > distinguishable from real HW warnings. We had one instance of a failing > master MSM, however, the failover to the slave MSM worked nicely as > expected. > > On TAC recommendation we recently upgraded one of our BDs to EW6.2.2b134 > which is now producing (at least) different phantom HW warnings :-( > > If you have a support contract I'd suggest that you call them asking for > a replacement MSM with a pre-installed config, which you should send > them in advance. I don't see good chances that a failover including a > synced config will work if your master console is not responding. > > During a maintenance window you should then do > > # run diagnostics extended > # run diagnostics packet-memory > > on every interface module (disrupting traffic on the resp module) > and on the MSMs (which reload afterwards) > > be aware that every instance takes a couple of minutes ! > > Good luck > CP > > --- --------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- > --- Christian Panigl : Vienna University Computer Center - ACOnet --- > --- UniVie - ACOnet - VIX : -------------------------------------------- --- > --- Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Mail: Panigl@CC.UniVie.ac.at (CP8-RIPE) --- > --- A-1010 Vienna / Austria : Tel: +43 1 4277-14032 (Fax: -9140) --- > --- --------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- From Martin@networkhardware.com Tue Oct 28 16:41:40 2003 Received: from someone claiming to be nhrmail.sb.networkhardware.com puck.NOSPAM (nhrmail.networkhardware.com [207.71.212.161]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9SLfapb006740 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:41:38 -0500 (envelope-from Martin@networkhardware.com) content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C39D9C.3F80A1D2" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Subject: [e-nsp] used Extreme Summit 48i/48si Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:41:30 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [e-nsp] used Extreme Summit 48i/48si Thread-Index: AcOdnD+K65gzhV9TS5CW/XTVsxoibA== From: "Martin Robinson" To: X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:41:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C39D9C.3F80A1D2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C39D9C.3F80A1D2" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C39D9C.3F80A1D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Vusi,=20 =20 I work for one of the largest stocking resellars of used Juniper, = Extreme and Cisco products. 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I work for one=20 of the largest stocking resellars of used Juniper, Extreme and Cisco = products. I=20 would be happy to give you some price on the summit 48i's you are = looking at=20 between $3,500 and $5,500 depending on whether it is standard or = full=20 l3.
 
All our products are tested by CCNA or CCIE = staff=20 before shipping and come with a standard 90 day=20 warranty.
 
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X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by puck.nether.net id hA5KAvY1048194 Subject: [e-nsp] New Extreme user X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 20:10:59 -0000 We're looking at getting a used black diamond vs an HP9308 switch. The extreme is running v4 code. Whichever we get will be used to connect several buildings in a business park (layer 2 only). Initial pricing is the same (72 10/100 and 8 fiber on the hp, 16 fiber and 64 10/100 on the extreme), but additional modules for the extreme are much less expensive. However, HP comes with free tech support/software upgrades. I'm completely unfamiliar with the extreme product, and was wondering if anyone has any comparisons to make between the two products, or if there are any problems with running older code on the extreme. Also, how easy is it to config/maintain an extreme switch? Thanks, Andrew Staples http://nwnetcom.com perl -e "print(pack('H54','616e647265772e737461706c6573406e776e6574636f6d2e636f6d')) ;" "When you're riding in a time machine way far into the future, don't stick your elbow out the window, or it'll turn into a fossil." From vusi@mandebele.com Sat Nov 29 10:03:31 2003 Received: from mail.webdevworld.com (memmoch.webdevworld.com [217.77.180.67]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP id hATF3SNJ040992 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:03:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from vusi@mandebele.com) Received: (qmail 30628 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2003 17:03:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blunt) (82.36.89.36) by memmoch.webdevworld.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2003 17:03:38 -0000 Message-ID: <005001c3b689$ed8f6b80$24592452@greenstuff.biz> From: "Vusi Ndebele" To: "Mikael Abrahamsson" , References: Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:03:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Cc: Subject: [e-nsp] BPG <-> OSPF route redistribution on summit 48i X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:03:32 -0000 Does anybody have a sample config that demonstrates the above ( route redistribution between OSPF and BGP) It would be very much appreciated. Regards Vusi Ndebele From josh@nemesis.net Tue Dec 16 03:48:53 2003 Received: from honeypot (adsl-66-218-53-113.dslextreme.com [66.218.53.113]) by puck.nether.net (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBG8mqqa041369 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:48:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from josh@nemesis.net) Received: from localhost by honeypot; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:16:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:16:51 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Josh" To: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by puck.nether.net id hBG8mqqa041369 Subject: [e-nsp] failed POST on summit? X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:48:53 -0000 I just picked two used Summit switches (a 48 and 24 - older series, not 'i'). When they boot up they show: ExtremeWare Copyright (C) 1999 by Extreme Networks =============================================== Version 4.1.19 (Build 2) By Release_Master on Wed 08/09/2000 6:09p System Serial Number: 0107M00022 Memory Size: 33554432 (32MB) MAC Address: 00:01:30:b5:6b:00 ASIC register and memory test ..........passed Start running diagnostic test ................................................. .............................................................................. .............................................failed Copyright (C) 1999 by Extreme Networks login: So the mystery is that the green light flashes properly after bootup (which indicates POST was ok according to the manual) - and the switch seems to work ok. How do I figure out what the 'failed' is in reference to? Could this be due to just not having GBIC's installed? Or is this a real hardware issue? Thanks for any help! -josh From olsson@puffy.nu Tue Dec 16 06:22:45 2003 Received: from puffy.nu (puffy.nu [193.109.175.122]) by puck.nether.net (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.12.9) with SMTP id hBGBMiqa050061 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 06:22:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from olsson@puffy.nu) Received: (qmail 52958 invoked by uid 89); 16 Dec 2003 11:22:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20031216112228.52957.qmail@puffy.nu> References: In-Reply-To: From: "Philip Olsson" To: "Josh" Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 12:22:28 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [e-nsp] Re: failed POST on summit? X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 11:22:46 -0000 Josh writes: > > I just picked two used Summit switches (a 48 and 24 - older > series, not 'i'). > > When they boot up they show: > ExtremeWare > Copyright (C) 1999 by Extreme Networks > =============================================== > > Version 4.1.19 (Build 2) By Release_Master on Wed 08/09/2000 6:09p > System Serial Number: 0107M00022 > Memory Size: 33554432 (32MB) > MAC Address: 00:01:30:b5:6b:00 > > ASIC register and memory test ..........passed > Start running diagnostic test ................................................. > .............................................................................. > .............................................failed > > Copyright (C) 1999 by Extreme Networks > login: > > > So the mystery is that the green light flashes properly after bootup > (which indicates POST was ok according to the manual) - and the > switch seems to work ok. How do I figure out what the 'failed' > is in reference to? Could this be due to just not having GBIC's > installed? Or is this a real hardware issue? > This is not because of the GBIC´s not being installed. I run several summits with and without GBIC´s . There should be some better diagnostic that you can run while it is running. Is the switch functioning ok?. Do you have the latest software? I have a summit24 that sometimes stop packetforwarding. All diagnostics are OK. Very strange problem.... Anyone have suggestions? // Philip From f.prout@silicomp.fr Tue Dec 16 09:47:06 2003 Received: from smtp.silicomp.fr (smtp.silicomp.fr [194.51.78.40]) by puck.nether.net (8.13.0.PreAlpha4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hBGEl5qa062718 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:47:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from f.prout@silicomp.fr) Received: from ppsr52 ([172.16.69.114]) by smtp.silicomp.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBGEhxdd004107; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:43:59 +0100 From: "Fabian PROUT" To: "'Josh'" Subject: RE : [e-nsp] failed POST on summit? Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:43:36 +0100 Message-ID: <006e01c3c3e2$fcae9170$724510ac@ppsr52> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-100.0 required=6.1 tests=none version=2.60 X-Spam-Level: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by puck.nether.net id hBGEl5qa062718 Cc: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:47:06 -0000 Hi Josh, You should be able to get more details with the command 'show diag'. Regards, Fabian. -----Message d'origine----- De : extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:extreme-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] De la part de Josh Envoyé : mardi 16 décembre 2003 09:17 À : extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Objet : [e-nsp] failed POST on summit? I just picked two used Summit switches (a 48 and 24 - older series, not 'i'). When they boot up they show: ExtremeWare Copyright (C) 1999 by Extreme Networks =============================================== Version 4.1.19 (Build 2) By Release_Master on Wed 08/09/2000 6:09p System Serial Number: 0107M00022 Memory Size: 33554432 (32MB) MAC Address: 00:01:30:b5:6b:00 ASIC register and memory test ..........passed Start running diagnostic test ................................................. ........................................................................ ...... .............................................failed Copyright (C) 1999 by Extreme Networks login: So the mystery is that the green light flashes properly after bootup (which indicates POST was ok according to the manual) - and the switch seems to work ok. How do I figure out what the 'failed' is in reference to? Could this be due to just not having GBIC's installed? Or is this a real hardware issue? Thanks for any help! -josh _______________________________________________ extreme-nsp mailing list extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/extreme-nsp From jeff@masergy.com Thu Jan 15 15:40:28 2004 Received: from m-tx-exch01.add0.masergy.com (m-tx-exch01.add0.masergy.com [64.47.17.21]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0FKeQWL098807 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:40:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jeff@masergy.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DBA7.CCD15BF0" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:40:23 -0600 Message-ID: <9593420C5541924EA4C94E5FC164F888139139@m-tx-exch01.add0.masergy.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Changing display string of port? Thread-Index: AcPbp8tTXQD53wOZQXaYihLIRk71kw== From: "Jeff Hancock" To: Subject: [e-nsp] Changing display string of port? X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:40:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DBA7.CCD15BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One of the ports in our BD (6.2.2b68) has had the misfortune of being configured with a display-string of "2". The actual port number is 2:30. We're trying to configure the port, but the display-string is causing "issues". For example: CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2 =20 Next possible completions: =20 CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2 redundant=20 I've tried variations on using unconfigure or "2"ing the port name with no luck. The options I think I have are: 1) unconfigure the whole slot and rebuild all the configs on the blade 2) unconfigure the switch, reboot, and paste the config (minus the display string command) back in. 3) use another port.... Any other ideas or hints would be appreciated. Thanks, J ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Hancock P: 703-846-0161=09 Senior Engineer F: 703-846-0149 Masergy Communications, Inc. C:=09 2901 Telstar, Ct. E: mailto:jeff@masergy.com Falls Church, VA, 22042 W: http://www.masergy.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DBA7.CCD15BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Changing display string of port?

One of the ports in our BD (6.2.2b68) = has had the misfortune of being configured with a display-string of = "2".  The actual port number is 2:30.  We're trying = to configure the port, but the display-string is causing = "issues".

For example:
CES1.LONI:13 # conf port = 2            =    
Next possible completions:
        <port = id>

CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2 redundant =

I've tried variations on using = unconfigure or "2"ing the port name with no luck.

The options I think I have are:
1) unconfigure the whole slot and = rebuild all the configs on the blade
2) unconfigure the switch, reboot, and = paste the config (minus the display string command) back in.
3) use another port….

Any other ideas or hints would be = appreciated.

Thanks,

J


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Senior Engineer =         =         =         F:      = 703-846-0149
Masergy Communications, = Inc.            = C:     
2901 Telstar, = Ct.       =         =         =         E:      = mailto:jeff@masergy.com
Falls Church, VA, 22042 =         =         W:      = http://www.masergy.com
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DBA7.CCD15BF0-- From Olaf.Struck@lambdanet.net Fri Jan 16 02:28:44 2004 Received: from ccgnt03.lambdanet.net (LNC-H.de.lambdanet.net [217.71.108.206]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i0G7ShWL034858 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 02:28:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from Olaf.Struck@lambdanet.net) Received: by ccgnt03 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:22:27 +0100 Message-ID: <39F27E3F569FD4119EF200508BAF85B903584731@CCGNT30> From: "Struck, Olaf" To: "'Jeff Hancock'" , extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: AW: [e-nsp] Changing display string of port? Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:30:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC01.7E5BD472" Cc: X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 07:28:45 -0000 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC01.7E5BD472 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, I have experienced the same issue. We could fix it by adding the display string to the config offline and then reload the config :(( Extreme promised to fix it in 7.x /Olaf -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: Jeff Hancock [mailto:jeff@masergy.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 21:40 An: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net Betreff: [e-nsp] Changing display string of port? One of the ports in our BD (6.2.2b68) has had the misfortune of being configured with a display-string of "2". The actual port number is 2:30. We're trying to configure the port, but the display-string is causing "issues". For example: CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2 Next possible completions: CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2 redundant I've tried variations on using unconfigure or "2"ing the port name with no luck. The options I think I have are: 1) unconfigure the whole slot and rebuild all the configs on the blade 2) unconfigure the switch, reboot, and paste the config (minus the display string command) back in. 3) use another port.... Any other ideas or hints would be appreciated. Thanks, J ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Hancock P: 703-846-0161 Senior Engineer F: 703-846-0149 Masergy Communications, Inc. C: 2901 Telstar, Ct. E: mailto:jeff@masergy.com Falls Church, VA, 22042 W: http://www.masergy.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC01.7E5BD472 Content-Type: text/html Changing display string of port?
Hi,
 
I have experienced the same issue. We could fix it by adding the display string to the config offline and then reload the config :((
Extreme promised to fix it in 7.x
 
/Olaf
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jeff Hancock [mailto:jeff@masergy.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 21:40
An: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net
Betreff: [e-nsp] Changing display string of port?

One of the ports in our BD (6.2.2b68) has had the misfortune of being configured with a display-string of "2".  The actual port number is 2:30.  We're trying to configure the port, but the display-string is causing "issues".

For example:
CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2               
Next possible completions:
        <port id>

CES1.LONI:13 # conf port 2 redundant

I've tried variations on using unconfigure or "2"ing the port name with no luck.

The options I think I have are:
1) unconfigure the whole slot and rebuild all the configs on the blade
2) unconfigure the switch, reboot, and paste the config (minus the display string command) back in.
3) use another port….

Any other ideas or hints would be appreciated.

Thanks,

J


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Jeff Hancock                            P:      703-846-0161   
Senior Engineer                         F:      703-846-0149
Masergy Communications, Inc.            C:     
2901 Telstar, Ct.                               E:      mailto:jeff@masergy.com
Falls Church, VA, 22042                 W:      http://www.masergy.com
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC01.7E5BD472-- From jeff@masergy.com Thu Feb 5 18:38:01 2004 Received: from m-tx-exch01.add0.masergy.com (m-tx-exch01.add0.masergy.com [64.47.17.21]) by puck.nether.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i15Nbwqr064339 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:37:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jeff@masergy.com) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3EC41.12611870" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 17:37:52 -0600 Message-ID: <9593420C5541924EA4C94E5FC164F8881394D1@m-tx-exch01.add0.masergy.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is it possible to recover a board in this state.... Thread-Index: AcPsQRCEXE3AatN8Q7WWo76rN3LRFA== From: "Jeff Hancock" To: Subject: [e-nsp] Is it possible to recover a board in this state.... X-BeenThere: extreme-nsp@puck.nether.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.2a0 Precedence: list List-Id: Extreme for NSPs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:38:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EC41.12611870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have at least 2 MSM's in our lab with the following error scrolling on the console: CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has invalid MAC Address. System halted. Note: No, they're not under maintenance. Any ideas appreciated. Thanks, J ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Hancock P: 703-846-0161=09 Senior Engineer F: 703-846-0149 Masergy Communications, Inc. C:=09 2901 Telstar, Ct. E: mailto:jeff@masergy.com Falls Church, VA, 22042 W: http://www.masergy.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3EC41.12611870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible to recover a board in this state....

Have at least 2 MSM's in our lab with = the following error scrolling on the console:

CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.
CRITICAL ERROR: Backplane EEPROM has = invalid MAC Address. System halted.


Note: No, they're not under = maintenance.

Any ideas appreciated.

Thanks,

J


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