RE: [nsp] Good IOS for 2620 with NM-4T1-IMA PPPoE / ATM

From: Scott.Keoseyan@BroadWing.com
Date: Sat Apr 06 2002 - 17:09:53 EST


I personally have a hard time understanding where this perception, that a
CCIE should know anything and everything about any cisco device, comes from.
Most of us are too busy doing their particular jobs, running networks,
consulting, or whatever keeps them busy, to keep up on the very latest bug
releases of every individual combination of hardware, software and interface
cards that isn't used on a regular basis. So when someone asks the list
what kind of experience or luck anyone has had with a particular combination
of hardware and IOS (this is a common application of this list I've
noticed), how is it that this gets perceived as some sort of lack of
knowledge on the part of anyone, no matter whether they are certified or
not? I happen to appreciate this type of input and this information as it
is presented on a regular basis on this list and find a lot of value in it.
Keep asking!

$0.02

Scott Keoseyan (CCIE #5885)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan O'Connell [mailto:ryan-nsp@complicity.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 4:39 PM
To: jlewis@lewis.org
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Stephen Gill
Subject: Re: [nsp] Good IOS for 2620 with NM-4T1-IMA PPPoE / ATM

On 06-Apr-2002 jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
> I think there's a somewhat widely believed myth that CCIE's know
> everything there is to know about Cisco and networking. Not having any
> certifications myself, I don't know what exactly is required, but I do
> know that it's just a myth.

The CCIE covers router configuration, routing protocols, switching etc etc.

However, it doesn't cover IOS versions or how to manage a network "well".

That's speaking from the point of view of a CCIE who regularly gets confused
by
the former but does the latter all the time. :-) I'm not sure there is any
way
to test good network management practices and design other than the real
world,
although the CCDP does go some way towards teaching the basics. Cisco tried
a
CCIE Design but shelved it a few months ago.

I've met very, very few clueless people who have managed to get their CCIE
but
sadly as with any qualification they do exist. Having said that, even those
that have taken and failed their lab have the sort of in-depth knowledge or
routing that's hard to gain except by working at the coal face.

-- 
Ryan O'Connell - CCIE #8147
<ryan@complicity.co.uk>
http://www.complicity.co.uk
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