On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Charlie Watts wrote:
> I must say that it is somewhat amusing that his "stackable switch" is
> useless because he can no longer buy a strangely-wired cable.
>
> He already has the modules? Then can't someone at Cisco send him the
> pinout? There are companies that would be happy to make him a cable.
>
> How old -are- those things, that accessories aren't available?
The last of our Cat3000 gear was purchased about 18 months ago I think.
Cisco has every cable they make practically listed off their site.
Pictures, descriptions, and alot of times pinouts. This cable is the
exception however, and I have no idea why.
The thing is, people that own this type of gear will understand that 9
times out of 10, if you buy a peice of Cat3000 gear used and it has a
ws-x3004 installed (stack module), the cable is almost never
included.....it gets lost or whatever.
But I digress.....if anyone NEEDs these cables, I did find a supply, and
bought ALL of it, and I have no idea where to get anymore, but if you need
a cable, I would sell one at a reasonable cost.
Brian
>
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Frank Bruce wrote:
>
> > I was surprised at the cost, agree 100% but that was the reply from the
> > product manager.
> >
> > The Stack module for the 3900 is US$745 list.
> >
> > The product documentation is maintained on CCO during the EoS period, you'll
> > notice that the 3000, 3100 & 3200 switches aren't on the price list anymore.
> >
> > The trade in prices offered can depend on what you trade against, yours does
> > seem a little on the low side too me.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Frank Bruce
> > Consulting Systems Engineer
> > NSP West, Cisco Systems Ltd
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian [mailto:signal@shreve.net]
> > Sent: 12 February 2001 02:07
> > To: Frank Bruce
> > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: RE: [nsp] Cisco Catalyst 3000 "stack" cables
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Frank Bruce wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca3000.htm
> > >
> > > You must order a new stack port module, the cable comes with it and
> > accounts
> > > for 90% of the item (this is a very expensive cable). This is why it is
> > not
> > > priced separately. ws-x4004= (it's a proprietory 1m cable with 50 pin
> > SCSI-2
> > > connectors).
> >
> > 90%? Its a peice of cable with SCSI2 connectors on the end, just with a
> > different pinout than normal SCSI2, I am suprised they rate it at 90% of
> > cost. The cables were manufactured for Cisco by a third party supplier.
> > The cables themselves have a part number on them but cisco couldn't tell
> > me neither the supplier or the part number, but I at least tracked down
> > the part number.
> >
> > The 3900/3920 token switches also use this module/cable. Also the
> > 3900/3920/3200 all are still listed off cisco.com under switches, in the
> > current products section....which may just be in error.
> >
> > I never did think Cisco's trade ins were any good. We bought a 3200, 3
> > WS-X3002's, and 4 WS-X3010's. We spent maybe $13k (this was 4 years ago).
> > We tried to trade in like a year later and cisco wanted to give us
> > $900.00.
> >
> > >
> > > How-ever
> > >
> > > Catalyst 3000 Family Ethernet Switch End-of-Sales (EOS)
> > Announcement(January
> > > 1999)
> > >
> > > Cisco Systems announces the End Of Sales (EoS) for the Catalyst® 3000
> > Family
> > > of Ethernet stackable workgroup switches and line cards effective June 25,
> > > 1999.
> > > Catalyst 3016B, 3100B, and 3200B orders will continue to be received only
> > > through June 25, 1999. Orders must be received by Cisco Systems Customer
> > > Service no later than June 25, 1999. These products will continue to be
> > > supported according to the standard Cisco EoS support policy.
> > >
> > > Probably best to trade them in, rather than trying to RMA them.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Frank Bruce
> > > Consulting Systems Engineer
> > > NSP West, Cisco Systems Ltd
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > | | | 3 The Square, Stockley Park
> > > :|: :|: | Uxbridge, England. UX11 1BN
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Asbjorn Hojmark [mailto:Asbjorn@Hojmark.ORG]
> > > Sent: 12 February 2001 00:33
> > > To: 'Brian'
> > > Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > > Subject: RE: [nsp] Cisco Catalyst 3000 "stack" cables
> > >
> > >
> > > >> It would be fun RMA'ing the stack port module, saying that it
> > > >> doesn't work, because the cable is gone and no spare cable is
> > > >> in the product catalog.
> > >
> > > > But can you really RMA something because you don't have the
> > > > cable? That would be interesting.
> > >
> > > I don't know what they'd say, but if there's no other way to get
> > > the cable from Cisco, I'd do it. At least, as I said, it would be
> > > fun trying.
> > >
> > > -A
> > > PS: I work for a Cisco gold partner but the above, as well as any
> > > other comments, are mine alone, unless otherwise specifically
> > > stated.
> > > --
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> > > Links : http://www.hojmark.org/networking/
> > >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------
> > I'm buying used CISCO gear!!
> > email me for a quote
> >
> > Brian Feeny e:signal@shreve.net
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> >
>
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> Charlie Watts
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>
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