RE: [nsp] Experience with NSE-1 and IOS 12.0S?

From: Christian Reichert (c.reichert@resolution.de)
Date: Wed Mar 21 2001 - 03:49:53 EST


Hi !

We had the same BGP Problem. But since we turned of PXF (no ip pxf) it
didn't happen again (last 6 weeks).

Cheers,
    Chris

P.S. Did see NSE-1 fail after a while ? We already have two replaced, they
started to hang from time to time and after a while wouldn't even boot
anymore.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Alastair Pooley [mailto:apooley@star.net.uk]
  Sent: 20 March 2001 14:46
  To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
  Subject: Re: [nsp] Experience with NSE-1 and IOS 12.0S?

  Hiya,

  Just to add to the NSE-1 experience have a look at

  CSCds64469

  We had a lot of hassle with this bug - any BGP changes occurring on our
network (e.g. if we rebooted an IBGP peer) led to 100% CPU on the NSE-1. We
have a full IBGP mesh with 3 EBGP peers each with a full internet table. The
CPU usage led to peer's closing sessions and major hassles for us.
Recommended IOS from TAC 121-5c.E8 failed to resolve this. As someone
mentioned earlier in this thread it was like the scheduler was broken,
despite the CPU being maxed it wouldn't build peering sessions. We found the
best IOS was actually 12.1(6) main line release. It reported the NSE-1 as
NPE-175 and all of our problems went away!

  In the end we pulled out the NSE-1's and we're back to NPE-300's for some
stability.

  Cheers
  Al

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Christian Reichert" <c.reichert@resolution.de>
  To: "George Robbins" <grr@shandakor.tharsis.com>
  Cc: <sthaug@nethelp.no>; <cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net>
  Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [nsp] Experience with NSE-1 and IOS 12.0S?

> Hi !
>
> CSCdt33911
>
> It's also in versions 12.1(1)E, 12.1(2)E, 12.1(3)E, 12.1(4)E, 12.1(5)E
> basically all we tested ;-)
>
> Although if you don't use MPLS, you don't necessarily have problems - in
> most of our test, we didn't see any problems during 'normal' routing but
> you could see that CEF is not working because packets wich should be
> label switched were just routed.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> George Robbins wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm... We have a couple running cef+pxf enabled and haven't
> > seen any CEF bugs, and we've lived thru a lot of CEF bugs in
> > the past. Not to say there aren't bugs, but I say it's not a
> > dead-in-the-water kind of thing...
> >
> > As far as switching performance, the boost is suposed to come
> > with the "high touch" stuff where you're looking at more than
> > the IP address for routing decisions, otherwise you might as
> > well just get a NPE-300/400.
> >
> > George
> >
> > > From c.reichert@resolution.de Mon Mar 19 16:26:34 2001
> > > X-Authentication-Warning: magrathea.resolution.de: Host
t1o311p80.teliauk.com [195.12.226.80] claimed to be resolution.de
> > > Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:54:19 +0100
> > > From: Christian Reichert <c.reichert@resolution.de>
> > > Organization: resolution GmbH
> > > X-Accept-Language: en
> > > To: sthaug@nethelp.no
> > > CC: grr@shandakor.tharsis.com, cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > > Subject: Re: [nsp] Experience with NSE-1 and IOS 12.0S?
> > > References: <200103191649.LAA03763@shandakor.tharsis.com>
<7189.985028111@verdi.nethelp.no>
> > >
> > > Hi !
> > >
> > > You can even use it with earlier IOS Versions, they might report
> > > 'unknown NPE' but it still works - even more stable than some 12.1E
> > > versions :-)
> > > You certainly won't have pxf nor any support from Cisco.
> > >
> > > One more thing to mention about NSE-1, as long as PXF is turned on
CEF
> > > (Cisco Express forwarding) is broken ! (all versions so far)
> > > This means if you use the 7200 as a MPLS PE, it won't work ... no
pxf
> > > solves the problem.
> > >
> > > Another thing, some of our tests showed that with pxf turned on the
> > > switching performance is less than without pxf ...
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I supsect the PXF technology was developed on a 12.1 base, and
isn't
> > > > > going to be retrofitted to 12.0. Someone (maybe from Cisco)
mentioned
> > > > > that the NSE board would work as if it were an NPE-300 under
releases
> > > > > where the NSE-1/PXF wasn't "supported"...
> > > >
> > > > That is indeed our experience with NSE-1 and 12.0(15)S1 - behaves
like
> > > > an NPE-300.
> > > >
> > > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no
> > >
>
>
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