I've been trained on the Olive machines and some respects I'm surprised that
you are canning them. Yes you have the M5's which are in very short supply
but surely Olives are much cheaper.
Working for Orchestream I've written management software for a variety of
boxes. One of the drama's with writing configuration software for routers is
you need the real thing to work on, generally the real thing is a scarce
resource. Having some kind of simulated device is very useful for
development and testing purposes.
It would be a shame for Juniper to entirely ditch the simulator and I would
argue that simply a faked up CLI and a JunOScript server would be useful for
both training a development - it need not be able to physically push
packets, do pings, MPLS etc just validate commits. Once you have broken the
requirement to simulate the entire router you can run multiple versions of
the CLI on one machine, hence for configuration purposes simulating a large
network.
Still if has gotta die, it's gotta die.
Rich
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Golding [mailto:dan@netrail.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:29 PM
> To: Paul Traina; PaulLedwidge@inter-fusion.net; John Starta
> Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [j-nsp] OLIVE install
>
>
> John,
>
> We had three in our lab, and wiped them, turning them into
> gated boxes for
> testing. They worked ok with 3.4, and have worked
> progressively less well
> with each new revision. I recommend not using the Olive
> software. It's not
> worth the hassles.
>
> - Daniel Golding, NetRail
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Traina [mailto:pst@juniper.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:10 PM
> > To: PaulLedwidge@inter-fusion.net; John Starta
> > Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OLIVE install
> >
> >
> > No, they are not. The olive software load was originally
> intended for
> > testing the software before we had
> > the hardware up and running. It was then, upon rare
> occasions, used for
> > training purposes. However,
> > it has never been supported, and never been licensed for
> use. It doesn't
> > work well, we no longer use it
> > internally (since now we have M5s and M10s in the routing
> protocols lab).
> >
> > Please do not distribute it, please do not install it, if
> you have it,
> > please wipe it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Starta" <john@starta.org>
> > To: <PaulLedwidge@inter-fusion.net>
> > Cc: <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] OLIVE install
> >
> >
> > > Is Juniper making OLIVE readily available? Where? When I
> asked for this
> > > late last year they indicated that it wouldn't be made available.
> > > (Something about not wanting to support it.)
> > >
> > > jas
> > >
> > > At 11:04 AM 1/30/01 +0000, PaulLedwidge@inter-fusion.net wrote:
> > > >Anyone know the basics of an OLIVE install.
> > > >I have......
> > > >
> > > >1) junos code
> > > >2) a working freebsd installation
> > > >
> > > >how do I extrace the boot floppy from the src code.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks in advance
> > > >Paul.
> > >
> >
>
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