[alcatel-nsp] Log for unstable MAC Address in FDB Table (looping effect)

Songkhram Sundaranu songkhram.sundaranu at gmail.com
Sun May 2 22:36:52 EDT 2010


You can turn on mac-move under VPLS, mac-move monitors the re-learn rate of
each MAC. If the rate exceeds the
configured maximum allowed limit, it disables the SAP or Spoke-SDP where the
source MAC was last seen and also the alarm raised.  MAC Move is an
alternative way to protect network against loops.

Regards,
Songkhram



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>   2. 7750-SR1 memery management (Pawel Sikora)
>   3. Re: 7750-SR1 memery management (Ryan Landry)
>   4. Re: Log for unstable MAC Address in FDB Table (looping
>      effect) (Ryan Landry)
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> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:12:46 +0700
> From: "Andhy Indarto" <andhy.indarto at indosat.com>
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> Dear all,
>
> Is there any possibility to raise or to make log alarm for unstable MAC
> Address in FDB Table (VPLS) that caused by looping effect ?
>
> The problem is the loop is caused by external transmission which is from
> Radio Microwave and MAC Address that come from SDP is suddenly received
> from SAP (from Radio Microwave), Can 7450 raise log alarm that cause by
> this (unstable MAC Address).
>
> Thank you before....
>
> Regards,
>
> andhi indarto
>
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> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:41:48 +0200
> From: Pawel Sikora <Pawel_Sikora at netia.pl>
> To: alcatel-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: [alcatel-nsp] 7750-SR1 memery management
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> Hi all.
>
> Is there any process or graceful way (except reload) to free allocated
> memory by BGP process
> after shutting down some of BGPs sessions from route reflectors?  (SROS
> 6.1R9)
>
> One of my SR-1 reached  memory alert:
>
> A:SZCZC001RT03# show system memory-pools
>
>
> ===============================================================================
> Memory Pools
>
> ===============================================================================
> Name               Max Allowed    Current Size      Max So Far          In
> Use
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> System                No limit      93,164,040      97,244,816 83,543,544
> Icc                  8,388,608       2,097,152       2,097,152 929,224
> RTM/Policies          No limit     105,906,176     105,906,176 100,912,424
> OSPF                  No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576 338,088
> MPLS/RSVP             No limit       8,842,920       9,891,496 8,502,656
> LDP                   No limit       2,097,152       3,145,728 1,825,032
> IS-IS                 No limit       5,554,240       5,554,240 4,494,792
> RIP                   No limit               0               0   0
> VRRP                  No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576 416
> BGP                   No limit     157,352,256     157,352,256 149,085,232
> Services              No limit       8,967,520       8,967,520 7,527,288
> IOM                   No limit     363,450,184     364,498,760 352,815,384
> CFLOWD                No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576 32,784
> IGMP/MLD              No limit               0               0   0
> PIM                   No limit               0               0   0
> MCast Stack           No limit               0               0   0
> IP Stack              No limit       5,305,416       5,305,416 4,386,496
> MBUF                  No limit       5,837,312       5,837,312 4,900,208
> IGMP/MLD Snpg         No limit       2,312,256       2,312,256 1,481,408
> TLS MFIB              No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576 993,640
> WEB Redirect         8,388,608       2,097,152       2,097,152 1,378,040
> MSDP                  No limit               0               0   0
> BFD                   No limit       2,097,152       2,097,152 1,050,328
> MCPATH                No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576 216
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Current Total Size :    770,323,808 bytes
> Total In Use       :    724,197,200 bytes
> Available Memory   :     61,317,776 bytes
>
> ===============================================================================
>
> Then I shut down the two bgp sessions from a total of 3 full RR feeds, but
> BGP process didnt freed any
> memory (in contrast the other SR-1 routers that have only single feed have
> only ca. 60M used for same bgp table).
> I expect that some kind of garbage collection should start but no effect
> observed.
>
> So I feel some trouble behind corner...  On SR-1 the same hardware (looks
> like IOM-20g) is co-used by
> IOM  and CPM functions (IOM process eating constantly 360M)  but 1GB of
> memory is definitely not enough.
> Is there any way (i mean even unsupportted but working) to upgrade the mem
> on SR-1?
>
> Regards
> Pawel Sikora/
> Netia S.A.
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> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:16:00 -0600
> From: Ryan Landry <Ryan.Landry at TELUS.COM>
> To: Pawel Sikora <Pawel_Sikora at netia.pl>
> Cc: "alcatel-nsp at puck.nether.net" <alcatel-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [alcatel-nsp] 7750-SR1 memery management
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> 6.1R14 fixed some BGP memory issues, where 'garbage collection' wasn't
> being called properly.  learned routes that are not accepted should be
> deleted by this algorithm, thus freeing up memory.  but, it was found that
> the collector was only called if you had at least one VPRN configured.
>
> so, upgrade to R14, or configure a dummy VPRN as a work-around.
>
> cheers
>
> .rL
>
> On 2010-04-29, at 6:41 AM, Pawel Sikora wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Is there any process or graceful way (except reload) to free allocated
> memory by BGP process
> > after shutting down some of BGPs sessions from route reflectors?  (SROS
> 6.1R9)
> >
> > One of my SR-1 reached  memory alert:
> >
> > A:SZCZC001RT03# show system memory-pools
> >
> >
> ===============================================================================
> > Memory Pools
> >
> ===============================================================================
> > Name               Max Allowed    Current Size      Max So Far
>  In Use
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > System                No limit      93,164,040      97,244,816
>  83,543,544
> > Icc                  8,388,608       2,097,152       2,097,152
> 929,224
> > RTM/Policies          No limit     105,906,176     105,906,176
> 100,912,424
> > OSPF                  No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576
> 338,088
> > MPLS/RSVP             No limit       8,842,920       9,891,496
> 8,502,656
> > LDP                   No limit       2,097,152       3,145,728
> 1,825,032
> > IS-IS                 No limit       5,554,240       5,554,240
> 4,494,792
> > RIP                   No limit               0               0
>     0
> > VRRP                  No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576
>   416
> > BGP                   No limit     157,352,256     157,352,256
> 149,085,232
> > Services              No limit       8,967,520       8,967,520
> 7,527,288
> > IOM                   No limit     363,450,184     364,498,760
> 352,815,384
> > CFLOWD                No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576
>  32,784
> > IGMP/MLD              No limit               0               0
>     0
> > PIM                   No limit               0               0
>     0
> > MCast Stack           No limit               0               0
>     0
> > IP Stack              No limit       5,305,416       5,305,416
> 4,386,496
> > MBUF                  No limit       5,837,312       5,837,312
> 4,900,208
> > IGMP/MLD Snpg         No limit       2,312,256       2,312,256
> 1,481,408
> > TLS MFIB              No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576
> 993,640
> > WEB Redirect         8,388,608       2,097,152       2,097,152
> 1,378,040
> > MSDP                  No limit               0               0
>     0
> > BFD                   No limit       2,097,152       2,097,152
> 1,050,328
> > MCPATH                No limit       1,048,576       1,048,576
>   216
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Current Total Size :    770,323,808 bytes
> > Total In Use       :    724,197,200 bytes
> > Available Memory   :     61,317,776 bytes
> >
> ===============================================================================
> >
> > Then I shut down the two bgp sessions from a total of 3 full RR feeds,
> but BGP process didnt freed any
> > memory (in contrast the other SR-1 routers that have only single feed
> have only ca. 60M used for same bgp table).
> > I expect that some kind of garbage collection should start but no effect
> observed.
> >
> > So I feel some trouble behind corner...  On SR-1 the same hardware (looks
> like IOM-20g) is co-used by
> > IOM  and CPM functions (IOM process eating constantly 360M)  but 1GB of
> memory is definitely not enough.
> > Is there any way (i mean even unsupportted but working) to upgrade the
> mem on SR-1?
> >
> > Regards
> > Pawel Sikora/
> > Netia S.A.<ATT00001..txt>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:27:08 -0600
> From: Ryan Landry <Ryan.Landry at TELUS.COM>
> To: Andhy Indarto <andhy.indarto at indosat.com>
> Cc: "alcatel-nsp at puck.nether.net" <alcatel-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Subject: Re: [alcatel-nsp] Log for unstable MAC Address in FDB Table
>        (looping        effect)
> Message-ID: <1A730DC2-AF5F-481B-A17F-4D743A950E80 at telus.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> starting on page 530 of the 7750SR 6.1 services guide (yes, i know you said
> 7450) there's a whole bunch of mac-related protection and notification
> mechanisms within a VPLS.  i don't know if they'd work for you in a 7450
> environment, but it's a good read nonetheless.  i don't know if it
> specifically creates a log entry for a certain mac, but you could pin a mac
> to a specific SDP or SAP, and entries indicating that the mac showed up on a
> SAP would give you an idea that there's movement happening.
>
> i haven't tested it.
>
> cheers
>
> .rL
>
>
> On 2010-04-29, at 5:12 AM, Andhy Indarto wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> > Is there any possibility to raise or to make log alarm for unstable MAC
> Address in FDB Table (VPLS) that caused by looping effect ?
> > The problem is the loop is caused by external transmission which is from
> Radio Microwave and MAC Address that come from SDP is suddenly received from
> SAP (from Radio Microwave), Can 7450 raise log alarm that cause by this
> (unstable MAC Address).
> > Thank you before?.
> > Regards,
> > andhi indarto
>
>
>
>
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