[Boatanchors] [Bulk] Re: ARRL Band Plan

[Jim Wilhite]

> If you really want to detect "busy", "lots of use", "crowded
> conditions",
> etc. get on the air during a contest.




Your mention of the existing SSB portion going to 3.6 is, of course, correct 
but the General Class is limited to 3.8.  Above that is where the congestion 
is.  So I would listen to a proposal to eliminate or expand that limit for 
General Class hams to, say 3.7, more so than expand the portion allocated to 
digital.

It seems as if they want to give privileges to Novice and Technicians to 
increase the activity of the digital mode and basing their expansion on 
supposed activity.

Jim
W5JO

-----Original Message----- 


Jim:
The phone band is from 3600 to 4000 KHz.
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Hambands_color.pdf
And, as far as I can tell, no one is proposing altering space just for
contests. Where did you get that?

Pete, wa2cwa

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:03:05 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
writes:
> Not wishing to be argumentative but why would we want to alter the
> band
> space just for contests?  I regularly monitor 80 meters and 40
> digital modes
> but do not see a level of activity that merits additional space,
> except as
> you say during contests.
>
> I do see a lot of activity between 3.8 and 4.0 but it is all SSB and
> they
> are every 1.5 to 2 Kc apart.   Probably that is because so many hams
> have
> General licenses and when in a round table the group would have
> several who
> cannot go below 3.8 Mc.  To me that would be a good argument for
> expanding
> the space for SSB down to at least 3.7 to better utilize the band,
> if not
> all the way to 3.6.
>
> Jim
> W5JO
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
>
>
> How would you even define "busy"? there's a lot of variables.
> Suppose
> there were a 1000 amateurs on the air between 3600 and 3900. Because
> I
> may not in their skip zone or conditions don't favor me with decent
> reception, I only hear 50 of them. I would say the band is not busy
> yet
> there are 950 of them out there on the air that I can't hear.
>
> If you really want to detect "busy", "lots of use", "crowded
> conditions",
> etc. get on the air during a contest.
>
> Counting activeness is sort of like trying to count dust particles
> blowing
> through your back yard.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa
>
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:06:24 -0400 LM Picard <lmpicard at rogers.com>
> writes:
> > Just curious.  Does anyone have any data on just how crowed the
> bands
> >
> > are?  What fraction of the band allocations are "busy" at any
> > particular
> > time.
> >
> > The ranks of active hams seem to be thinning out.  Or am I wrong?
> >
> > Saw an article somewhere that shows that the average age of
> licensed
> >
> > hams keeps rising.  That is there are relatively few young people
> > getting licensed.  The few young people interested in a technical
> > hobby
> > seem to be into computer gaming, overclocking, writing cell phone
> > apps etc.
> >
> > On 12/04/2015 5:33 PM, Bry Carling wrote:
> > > If you have an Extra yes CW US ALLOWED anywhere but quite a few
> > areas you will only have QSOs with other extras nowadays since
> > everyone else has lost some CW spectrum in recent years.
> > >
> > > If we are not vigilant they may well lose more.
> > >
> > > Best regards - Brian Carling
>
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