[Boatanchors] [Bulk] Re: ARRL Band Plan

[Bry Carling]

I think you would be surprised at how many CW ops are out there nowadays. Many are new, younger ops. I have worked several teenagers in CW in the past year.

Best regards - Brian Carling
AF4K Crystals Co.
117 Sterling Pine St.
Sanford, FL 32773

Tel: +USA 321-262-5471




> On Apr 13, 2015, at 2:38 PM, <pmarkavage at juno.com> <pmarkavage at juno.com> wrote:
> 
> If Generals feel their portion of the band is congested, they only have
> to upgrade to Extra (under the current FCC rules) to take advantage of
> all the band spectrum. Sounds like a no-brainer to me. 
> 
> I would also suspect many of today's newly minted Technicians (computer
> savvy et al) would have more of an interest to operate digital modes then
> the traditional CW mode.
> 
> It's the 21st century; times are changing and amateur radio operating
> practices, procedures, wishes, and desires need to evolve.
> 
> Pete, wa2cwa
> 
> On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:39:21 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" <w5jo at brightok.net>
> writes:
>>> If you really want to detect "busy", "lots of use", "crowded
>>> conditions",
>>> etc. get on the air during a contest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Your mention of the existing SSB portion going to 3.6 is, of course, 
>> correct 
>> but the General Class is limited to 3.8.  Above that is where the 
>> congestion 
>> is.  So I would listen to a proposal to eliminate or expand that 
>> limit for 
>> General Class hams to, say 3.7, more so than expand the portion 
>> allocated to 
>> digital.
>> 
>> It seems as if they want to give privileges to Novice and 
>> Technicians to 
>> increase the activity of the digital mode and basing their expansion 
>> on 
>> supposed activity.
>> 
>> Jim
>> W5JO
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim:
>> The phone band is from 3600 to 4000 KHz.
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regulatory/Band%20Chart/Hambands_color.pdf
>> And, as far as I can tell, no one is proposing altering space just 
>> for
>> contests. Where did you get that?
>> 
>> Pete, wa2cwa
>> 
>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:03:05 -0500 "Jim Wilhite" 
>> <w5jo at brightok.net>
>> writes:
>>> Not wishing to be argumentative but why would we want to alter
>> the
>>> band
>>> space just for contests?  I regularly monitor 80 meters and 40
>>> digital modes
>>> but do not see a level of activity that merits additional space,
>>> except as
>>> you say during contests.
>>> 
>>> I do see a lot of activity between 3.8 and 4.0 but it is all SSB
>> and
>>> they
>>> are every 1.5 to 2 Kc apart.   Probably that is because so many
>> hams
>>> have
>>> General licenses and when in a round table the group would have
>>> several who
>>> cannot go below 3.8 Mc.  To me that would be a good argument for
>>> expanding
>>> the space for SSB down to at least 3.7 to better utilize the
>> band,
>>> if not
>>> all the way to 3.6.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> W5JO
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How would you even define "busy"? there's a lot of variables.
>>> Suppose
>>> there were a 1000 amateurs on the air between 3600 and 3900.
>> Because
>>> I
>>> may not in their skip zone or conditions don't favor me with
>> decent
>>> reception, I only hear 50 of them. I would say the band is not
>> busy
>>> yet
>>> there are 950 of them out there on the air that I can't hear.
>>> 
>>> If you really want to detect "busy", "lots of use", "crowded
>>> conditions",
>>> etc. get on the air during a contest.
>>> 
>>> Counting activeness is sort of like trying to count dust
>> particles
>>> blowing
>>> through your back yard.
>>> 
>>> Pete, wa2cwa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:06:24 -0400 LM Picard
>> <lmpicard at rogers.com>
>>> writes:
>>>> Just curious.  Does anyone have any data on just how crowed the
>>> bands
>>>> 
>>>> are?  What fraction of the band allocations are "busy" at any
>>>> particular
>>>> time.
>>>> 
>>>> The ranks of active hams seem to be thinning out.  Or am I
>> wrong?
>>>> 
>>>> Saw an article somewhere that shows that the average age of
>>> licensed
>>>> 
>>>> hams keeps rising.  That is there are relatively few young
>> people
>>>> getting licensed.  The few young people interested in a
>> technical
>>>> hobby
>>>> seem to be into computer gaming, overclocking, writing cell
>> phone
>>>> apps etc.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/04/2015 5:33 PM, Bry Carling wrote:
>>>>> If you have an Extra yes CW US ALLOWED anywhere but quite a
>> few
>>>> areas you will only have QSOs with other extras nowadays since
>>>> everyone else has lost some CW spectrum in recent years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we are not vigilant they may well lose more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards - Brian Carling
>>> 
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