Well I'm in the Appliance business in Denver and we get Microwave Ovens shipped via UPS from a wharehouse in Dallas, TX all the time. I don't know for sure that they pass through there on the way to Denver, but I would bet they do! Pack your stuff right and make sure you really did tighten all those screws before you packed them. I doubt that any amount of shaking would back screws through feet (as long as they are) all the way out. Especially if you had wrapped them as tightly as you say. There would not have been any place for them to go except maybe through the packaging. I would sooner guess that you got in ahurry and forgot to tighten the screws before you packed the radio. 73 de Jerry, KØEJF E.J.(Jerry) Forwood -- Glen Zook wrote: However, things like microwave ovens, etc. (consumer items), are rarely shipped by UPS (at least on a comparative basis). They generally go by motor freight to large distribution warehouses (like those owned by WalMart, Target, etc.) and then are reloaded on company owned vehicles for delivery to the retail stores. Even those that are delivered to small retail operations are generally delivered by motor freight or vehicles owned by the wholesaler. I definitely would like to see some microwave ovens shipped through the UPS Mesquite, Texas, hub. I doubt very seriously that they would, in general, survive without some damage. Now, I do agree that if you are purchasing a fairly rare item (i.e. SX-88) that you have to be VERY careful in choosing the carrier. Going and getting it yourself is definitely a viable alternative to using one of the "express companies". Glen, K9STH Fact is when you buy an electronic item or microwave oven today the box it came in and the packing inside has been well planned and designed by engineers for protection of finished surfaces, distribution of forces and energy absorption to successfully handle those same stresses and loads. Glen, K9STH Web sites http://home.comcast.net/~k9sth http://home.comcast.net/~zcomco __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------- This list is a public service of the City of Tempe, Arizona ----------------------------------------------------------- Subscription control - http://www.tempe.gov/lists/control.asp?list=BOATANCHORS To post - BOATANCHORS@LISTSERV.TEMPE.GOV Archives - http://listserv.tempe.gov/archives/BOATANCHORS.html