[cisco-bba] Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces

Ben White ben at keme.net
Fri Jul 8 05:58:02 EDT 2005


Hi,

I'm guessing it's BT?

I went through similar hoops with them some time ago, I've been told by
various techies there that they're waiting for software from Juniper to
fix the problem, although I know other ISP's that have been requesting
this for years.

I don't expect any resolution from them anytime soon.

Ben

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005, Mark Tohill wrote:
> 
> Oliver,
> 
> Response from Telco:
> 
> "The end users are given a traffic profile on the BRAS/LAC depending
> upon the customers order. They are either half meg, 1 meg or 2 meg.
> If the BRAS is Cisco the traffic profile is forwarded to the home
> gateway/LNS. If the BRAS is Juniper ERX the taffic profile is not
> forwarded."
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) [mailto:oboehmer at cisco.com] 
> Sent: 06 July 2005 18:55
> To: Mark Tohill
> Subject: RE: RE:[cisco-bba] Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces
> 
> mark,
> 
> you have to ask your Telco why they are sending you different speeds.
> The speed is something which is done by the LAC according to the
> physical line speed or something else, it can't be set via Radius on
> their end.
> You can check the speed sent to you in the L2TP ICCN by enabling "debug
> vpdn l2x-packet" and look for L2TP AVP 24 or 38
> 
> this example was taken for an ISDN multilink connection (128k)
> 
> > Jun 2 01:43:32.362: Tnl/Sn 56399/1255 L2TP: Parse ICCN
> > Jun 2 01:43:32.362: Tnl/Sn 56399/1255 L2TP: Parse AVP 24 len 10, flag
> 0x8000 (M)
> > Jun 2 01:43:32.362: Tnl/Sn 56399/1255 L2TP: Connect Speed 128000
> > Jun 2 01:43:32.362: Tnl/Sn 56399/1255 L2TP: Parse AVP 38 len 10, flag
> 0x0
> > Jun 2 01:43:32.362: Tnl/Sn 56399/1255 L2TP: Rx Speed 128000
> 
> 	oli
> 
> 
> Mark Tohill <mailto:Mark at u.tv> wrote on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:37
> PM:
> 
> > Thanks for reply Oliver.
> > 
> > Does this mean it's got from the telco's RADIUS configuration or is it
> > manually configured on their LAC?
> > 
> > I don't understand why I get differing Bandwidth figures for different
> > users when they connect across L2TP to our LNS. Our telco simply
> > checks via domain name or 'realm' and forwards session appropriately.
> > 
> > Am I missing something?
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) [mailto:oboehmer at cisco.com]
> > Sent: 06 July 2005 17:27
> > To: Mark Tohill; cisco-bba at puck.nether.net
> > Subject: RE: RE:[cisco-bba] Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces
> > 
> > So you terminate L2TP sessions? Then it's the LAC's connect-speed
> > which is sent during ICRQ as L2TP AVP. You have no control over it on
> > the 
> > LNS..
> > 
> > 	oli
> > 
> > Mark Tohill <> wrote on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:13 PM:
> > 
> >> Apologies,
> >> 
> >> Replied to digest and removed subject....
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mark Tohill
> >> Sent: 06 July 2005 17:11
> >> To: 'cisco-bba at puck.nether.net'
> >> Subject: RE:[cisco-bba] Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces
> >> 
> >> Sorry, Oliver
> >> 
> >> I removed that Loopback IP! (paranoia in family for years)
> >> 
> >> .
> >> .
> >> .
> >> 
> >> no vpdn history failure cause normal
> >> vpdn history failure table-size 50
> >> vpdn session-limit 16000
> >> vpdn ip udp ignore checksum
> >> !
> >> vpdn-group 1
> >>  description VPDN-GROUP-1
> >>  accept-dialin
> >>   protocol l2tp
> >>   virtual-template 1
> >>  terminate-from hostname <removed>
> >>  source-ip <removed>
> >>  lcp renegotiation on-mismatch
> >>  l2tp tunnel password <removed>
> >> !
> >> virtual-template 1 pre-clone 8000
> >> !
> >> 
> >> interface ATM1/0.101 point-to-point
> >>  description Fibre 1
> >>  bandwidth 74880
> >>  ip address <removed>
> >>  pvc 101/35
> >>   vbr-nrt 74880 74880 290
> >>   oam-pvc manage
> >>   oam retry 2 2 2
> >>   encapsulation aal5snap
> >>  !
> >> !
> >> interface ATM1/0.201 point-to-point
> >>  description Fibre 2
> >>  bandwidth 74880
> >>  ip address <removed>
> >>  pvc 201/35
> >>   vbr-nrt 74880 74880 290
> >>   oam-pvc manage
> >>   oam retry 2 2 2
> >>   encapsulation aal5snap
> >> 
> >> 
> >> interface Virtual-Template1
> >>  description Virtual-Template
> >>  ip unnumbered Loopback0
> >>  ip tcp adjust-mss 1420
> >>  ip mroute-cache
> >>  no logging event link-status
> >>  load-interval 30
> >>  no snmp trap link-status
> >>  ntp disable
> >>  peer default ip address pool dp01 dp02 dp03 dp04 dp05 dp06 dp07
> >> dp08 dp09 dp10 dp11 dp12 dp13 dp14 dp15 dp16 dp17 dp18 dp19
> >>  keepalive 100
> >>  ppp authentication chap
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mark
> >> 
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> >> 
> >>    1. Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces (Mark Tohill)
> >>    2. RE: Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces
> >>       (Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer))
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
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> >> 
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 16:47:59 +0100
> >> From: "Mark Tohill" <Mark at u.tv>
> >> Subject: [cisco-bba] Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces
> >> To: <cisco-bba at puck.nether.net>
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> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Has anyone any idea where Bandwidth figures are got from?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Are they picked up at an ATM level? i.e Why do the two examples
> >> below differ? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Any help appreciated.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Thanks
> >> 
> >> Mark
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> sh int Vi8098
> >> 
> >> Virtual-Access8098 is up, line protocol is up
> >> 
> >>   Hardware is Virtual Access interface
> >> 
> >>   Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback0 (removed)
> >> 
> >>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 155520 Kbit, DLY 100000 usec
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> sh int Vi8518
> >> 
> >> Virtual-Access8518 is up, line protocol is up
> >> 
> >>   Hardware is Virtual Access interface
> >> 
> >>   Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback0 (removed)
> >> 
> >>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 565 Kbit, DLY 100000 usec,
> >> 
> >>      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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> >> 
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:55:22 +0200
> >> From: "Oliver Boehmer \(oboehmer\)" <oboehmer at cisco.com>
> >> Subject: RE: [cisco-bba] Bandwidth on Virtual-Access interfaces
> >> To: "Mark Tohill" <Mark at u.tv>, <cisco-bba at puck.nether.net>
> >> Message-ID: 
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> >> Mark,
> >> 
> >> VAI bandwidth is usually picked up from a lower layer (ATM, ISDN,
> >> L2TP), really depends what this Interface is bound to (ATM vc,
> >> PPPoE, L2TP/PPPoVPDN, ISDN, etc.)).. 
> >> 
> >> 	oli
> >> 
> >> P.S: "Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback0 (removed)",
> >> the "removed" doesn't sound right..
> >> 
> >> Mark Tohill <> wrote on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:48 PM:
> >> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> Has anyone any idea where Bandwidth figures are got from?
> >>> 
> >>> Are they picked up at an ATM level? i.e Why do the two examples
> >>> below differ? 
> >>> 
> >>> Any help appreciated.
> >>> 
> >>> sh int Vi8098
> >>> 
> >>> Virtual-Access8098 is up, line protocol is up
> >>> 
> >>>   Hardware is Virtual Access interface
> >>> 
> >>>   Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback0 (removed)
> >>> 
> >>>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 155520 Kbit, DLY 100000 usec
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> sh int Vi8518
> >>> 
> >>> Virtual-Access8518 is up, line protocol is up
> >>> 
> >>>   Hardware is Virtual Access interface
> >>> 
> >>>   Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback0 (removed)
> >>> 
> >>>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 565 Kbit, DLY 100000 usec,
> >>> 
> >>>      reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload
> >> 
> >> 
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