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<DIV><SPAN class=106115109-13012005><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2>Hello,</FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am using nrt-VBR to terminate
various VCs on an ADSL aggregator, however the local Telco is policing at VP
level. I am considering using Hierarchical VP shaping to match exactly what
the Telco is policing and thus provide an end to end traffic
management.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1- Has anyone implemented this
model and is it performing as it should.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=106115109-13012005>[Benoit GRANGE] As far as I know it only works
on the Cisco 10k. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2- I also oversubscribe at BRAS
level, so my total SCR is nearly 3 folds my line card. How does the scheduler
cope with such a demand ? My understanding is that when it comes to creating
time slots to service each cell from each VC within the VP, cells will collide
occasionally and will be dropped (depending which method is used to deal with
this scenario).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p><SPAN class=106115109-13012005><FONT size=2>We
also oversubscribe and it works within some limits. This kind of job really
need to be discussed with your system engineer at
Cisco</FONT>.</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Arial
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width="100%"><B><A style="COLOR: royalblue"
href="mailto: benoit.grange@fr.tiscali.com">Benoît
Grangé</A></B><BR>Directeur réseau, Tiscali Télécom<BR>37 rue Greneta,
75002 Paris<BR>
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<TD>tel: </TD>
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width=350 colSpan=3>C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est
supérieure à celle du son, que beaucoup de gens paraissent brillants avant
d'avoir l'air con.
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