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<DIV><SPAN class=330100516-14012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sam,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330100516-14012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Take a
look at this link: <A
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_feature_guide09186a00802254b7.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/hw/routers/ps133/products_feature_guide09186a00802254b7.html</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330100516-14012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In
regards to what is recommended for oversubscription factors, I don't think there
is a recommended value. It depends on customer traffic patterns and how
much you want to guarantee each user. I have heard requirements for as
little of 4:1 oversubscription to as high as 50:1 as stated in above
link. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330100516-14012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hope
that helps.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=330100516-14012005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Andy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-bba-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Benoit GRANGE<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 14, 2005
9:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Sam Meftahi;
cisco-bba@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-bba] ADSL shaping
using Hierarchical VP<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><FONT
color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005><FONT
color=#0000ff>Hello,</FONT></SPAN> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Which category
service are u using? I am using nrt-VBR. <BR><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005>[Benoit GRANGE] We also use this one (and it
is the only one supported for Hierarchical VP
shaping).</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Does Cisco
recommend any Oversubscription or overbooking factors values for 7206VXR or
10000.<BR><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=948272715-14012005>[Benoit
GRANGE] I don't know.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Otherwise, which
values is the general ISP community using without causing any
degradation?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005><FONT color=#0000ff>I thing it is really up to you
(and your market constraints).</FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005></SPAN> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To clarify what I
mean by Oversubscription, it is total SCR bandwidth exceeding line speed and
not number of VCs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT color=navy><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005><FONT color=#0000ff>You can not really oversubscribe
the number of VC being really in use (you may be able to provision more than
the card limit, but they may not be all used at the same
time).</FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005>Having Sum(SCR) > Card badnwidth is possible in
the Cisco 10k since release 12.3XI</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p><SPAN
class=948272715-14012005>Benoît</SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>