[cisco-nas] AS5300 modems busied out - 12.3.18

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou achatz at forthnet.gr
Fri Jul 7 13:53:09 EDT 2006


After trying 12.3.19 for 40 days, it showed the same behavior.

         Avg Hold     Inc calls     Out calls    Busied   Failed    No     Succ
   Mdm     Time      Succ   Fail   Succ   Fail    Out      Dial   Answer   Pct.
.........
* 2/30  00:29:40     344     47      0      0       1        0       0     88%
* 2/31  00:30:08     370     21      0      0       1        0       0     95%
   2/32  00:30:54     374     24      0      0       1        0       0     94%
   2/33  00:27:56     370     24      0      0       1        0       0     94%
* 2/34  00:29:04     368     25      0      0       1        0       0     94%
* 2/35  00:32:53     357     18      0      0       1        0       0     95%
.........
Total:  00:30:12   43876   2605      0      0       6        0       1     94%

Unfortunately the modem logs didn't show anything, because their log buffer (which was the default) 
was overwritten with the latest entries. I increased the modem log buffer (modem buffer-size 500), 
so i'm waiting for it to appear again.


About the "on AS5300 better stick with <12.3(6)d" issue, i think if that was an option i would 
prefer to move back to 12.2(15)T since it has proven quite stable all these years.

I just wanted to upgrade to >12.3.18 mainline in order to have a GD IOS in my AS5300s (and avoid 
some security vulnerabilities), but i guess this GD wasn't meant for all routers. Quite strange that 
some ED/LD releases are preferred over GD ones.

--
Tassos

Aaron Leonard wrote on 26/5/2006 20:28:
> Hi Tassos,
> 
>>> Modem recovery can automatically busy out modems, if it should see 
>>> excessive failures on certain modems and decide that it wants to 
>>> "recover" the module.
>>>
>>
>> I have neven seen on 12.2(15)T16 busied out calls (we're talking about 
>> 20 routers with this IOS), although i get messages like:
>>
>> May 25 04:00:00: %MODEM-1-MODEMOK: Modem (2/96) Running old firmware
>> May 25 04:38:00: %MICA-5-MODEM_RECOVERY: Modem (2/96) is being 
>> recovered by asap-redownload
>> May 25 04:38:06: %MODEM-5-DL_START: Modem (2/96) started firmware 
>> download
>> May 25 04:38:19: %MODEM-5-DL_GOOD: Modem (2/96) completed firmware 
>> download:
>>
>> On the other hand, in 12.3.18 (only one router and in the same hunt 
>> group with the other 20), i never got such messages, but i had quite a 
>> lot of busied out calls.
> 
> Doesn't the modem log show *anything* when the busied counter increments 
> for a modem?
> 
>>> There are probably some other reasons why the router will decide 
>>> automatically to busy out modems, ... oh, I just though of one, that 
>>> little featurette where where we proactively busy out modems to 
>>> signal to the switch that the trunks are busy to force the switch to 
>>> hunt to a different router.
>>>
>>
>> Can you explain it a little bit more?
>> Why do you proactively busy out the modems in this case (signal to the 
>> switch), when the isdn channels are the ones that should be busied out?
> 
> Um, you're right, it was my foggy memory that was faulty.
> 
>>> Maybe if you look at the modem logs, they'll provide some 
>>> explanation, unless they have rolled over past the busyout event.
>>>
>>
>> I just reloaded the box :( and loaded 12.3.19....i'm waiting for 
>> busied out calls to appear again.
>> Then i'll try to grab the modem logs.
>>
>> -- 
>> Tassos
> 
> OK.
> 
> I do have one concern that I should raise here, about using current 12.3 
> mainline code on MICA platforms - (such as the 5300, or the 3600/3700 
> with NM-DM modems) - see below.  I think if I were running such a 
> platform, I would be tempted to run latest 12.3(6) throttle (12.3(6f)) 
> rather than a subsequent 12.3M release.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Aaron
> 
> ---
> 
> CSCei63851
> mica modems randomly marked as bad in any version afer 12.3(6)
> Release-note: Modified 050919
> 
> Click to see the enclosure with line wrapping enabled
> 
> 
> In 3640 and 5300 platform running any version after 12.3(6), mica modems 
> may randomly
> marked as BAD
> 
> The symptoms observed only in situations where call success rate(CSR) is 
> very
> low and there are good amount of calls failing continously in modem to modem
> trainup
> 
> Modem log of modem in bad state, showed that IOS put modem out of service
> because modem failed to go onhook/offhook
> 
> Workaround
> -Use 12.3(6)d or any version before it
> 
> -Manually download the modem portware to spe that has bad modem using
>  "firmware location.." command in spe mode
> 
> -Reboot the router
> 
> -Make sure many calls are not failing in trainup that is CSR is good
> 
> ---
> 
> This is marked Unreproducible, although it probably should be reopened, 
> as this problem is seen on 5300s and 36/3700s on all 12.3 mainline after 
> the 12.3(6) throttle.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>> Router1 is AS5300 with 12.3(18.8) - 2.9.5.0
>>>>
>>>> router1>sh mode sum
>>>> Avg Hold     Incoming calls       Outgoing calls     Busied   
>>>> Failed   No   Succ
>>>>    Time     Succ   Fail  Avail   Succ   Fail  Avail   Out      
>>>> Dial     Ans  Pct.
>>>> 00:32:21  65667   4330     91      0      0      0      54        
>>>> 0     0   94%
>>>>
>>>> Router2 is AS5300 with 12.2(15)T16 - 2.9.5.0
>>>>
>>>> router2>sh modem sum
>>>> Avg Hold     Incoming calls       Outgoing calls     Busied   
>>>> Failed   No   Succ
>>>>    Time     Succ   Fail  Avail   Succ   Fail  Avail   Out      
>>>> Dial     Ans  Pct.
>>>> 00:31:52 435989  25314     76      0      0      0       0        
>>>> 0     4   95%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Router1 is the only AS5300 running 12.3(18.8) and is the only one 
>>>> showing busied out calls during the last 2 months. Previously, when 
>>>> it was running 12.2(15)T16 too, no busied calls were there for over 
>>>> a year.
>>>>
>>>> So, is there a known bug with "busied out" calls in 12.3.18 IOS? I 
>>>> couldn't find anything in bugtool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Tassos
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>>>
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