[nsp] RE: cisco-nsp Digest, Vol 5, Issue 19

Mark Pace Balzan mpb at melitacable.com
Tue Apr 8 20:18:18 EDT 2003


Jim,

I did some playing around with nbar and 12.2(13)T, and here follows my
feedback.
As always, this is my opinon and experience, and I stand to be corrected:

- You applied an input service policy 'operation-packet-freedom' to your
ethernet interface.
I liked the descriptive name, but should that not be your policy map name
'p2p-map' ?

- When I tried to match and police kazaa2 traffic, I too was left with alot
of unknown traffic. I have via other products determined that the unknown
traffic is indeed mainly kazaa2, which was not identified by NBAR.

- The release notes for 12.2(13)T mention some issues related to nbar and
kazaa2 traffic classification. some of these issues seem to be addressed in
12.2(13)T2 or T3, but I havent had time to try these.


just my two cents worth.  anyone else been working in this direction, and
care to share experiences ?


cheers


Mark




> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 19:32:23 -0700
> From: Jim Dueltgen <jimd at lmi.net>
> Subject: [nsp] 	NBAR unclassified traffic up as rate limiting is put
> 	in place?
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID: <p05200f0fbab7e07b90c1@[66.117.131.84]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
> I'm playing around with NBAR on a 2620 running 12.2(13)T.  I'm
> looking to bandwidth limit the use of those pesky P2P apps across
> that T1.  I think I've got it implemented correctly as "sho ip nbar
> protocol-discovery" clearly shows the kazaa2 and fasttrack (the two
> targets of my class map) 5 minute bit rate fitting down into my
> policy limits.  However, at the same time the 5 minute bit rate of
> all of the "unknown" traffic has grown to fill all of the bandwidth
> made available by policy limits.  The line is as saturated as ever.
> Am I doing something wrong or are these programs getting around the
> limits by being more clever than the PDLMs and NBAR?  Here's the
> config (only the IP addresses have been changed to protect the
> guilty):
>
> class-map match-any p2p-class
>    match protocol kazaa2
>    match protocol fasttrack
> !
> policy-map p2p-map
>    class piggies
>     police cir 256000 bc 64000 be 128000
>       conform-action transmit
>       exceed-action drop
> !
> interface FastEthernet0/0
>   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   ip nbar protocol-discovery
>   speed 100
>   full-duplex
>   service-policy input operation-packet-freedom
> !
> interface Serial0/0
>   ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   ip nbar protocol-discovery
>   no ip mroute-cache
>   service-policy input operation-packet-freedom
>
> Here's the current nbar info:
>
>   FastEthernet0/0
>                              Input                    Output
>     Protocol                 Packet Count             Packet Count
>                              Byte Count               Byte Count
>                              5 minute bit rate (bps)  5 minute
> bit rate (bps)
>     ------------------------ ------------------------
> ------------------------
>     kazaa2                   176182858                86919702
>                              146964916583             28358892324
>                              245000                   67000
>     fasttrack                37788209                 31714535
>                              33414399197              20906754867
>                              88000                    189000
> [...]
>     unknown                  92213883                 164490587
>                              54345142378              167135533630
>                              1221000                  624000
>     Total                    353962553                343978552
>                              246496757983             274991876201
>                              1667000                  999000
>
>   Serial0/0
>                              Input                    Output
>     Protocol                 Packet Count             Packet Count
>                              Byte Count               Byte Count
>                              5 minute bit rate (bps)  5 minute
> bit rate (bps)
>     ------------------------ ------------------------
> ------------------------
>     fasttrack                246486                   206601
>                              253777388                106718162
>                              207000                   65000
>     kazaa2                   170480                   383364
>                              42349405                 230400940
>                              66000                    185000
> [...]
>     unknown                  852688                   748976
>                              516781526                692594208
>                              612000                   1206000
>     Total                    1391021                  1463846
>                              879547644                1092559828
>                              997000                   1561000
>
> Anyone have any experience with this they can share?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Dueltgen
> LMi.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 20:57:31 -0700
> From: Jim Dueltgen <jimd at lmi.net>
> Subject: [nsp] NBAR unclassified traffic [follow up]
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Message-ID: <p05200f10bab7f8753328@[66.117.131.84]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
> Typo in my config example under policy-map fixed here:
>
> class-map match-any p2p-class
>    match protocol kazaa2
>    match protocol fasttrack
> !
> policy-map p2p-map
>    class p2p-class
>     police cir 256000 bc 64000 be 128000
>       conform-action transmit
>       exceed-action drop
> !
> interface FastEthernet0/0
>   ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   ip nbar protocol-discovery
>   speed 100
>   full-duplex
>   service-policy input operation-packet-freedom
> !
> interface Serial0/0
>   ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
>   ip nbar protocol-discovery
>   no ip mroute-cache
>   service-policy input operation-packet-freedom
>
> Tried to make the config more generic looking and wound up making it
> look like I didn't know what the heck I'm doing.  That may still be
> the case but at least it's due to something other than a typo now.
>
> - Jim



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