[nsp] NBAR question

[Voll, Scott]

I agree with Mark.  If you want great control, the PacketShaper is a
great product.  Might be a little spendy.  We were lucky enough to get
an old PacketShaper (in an Intel box) and buy the support from Packeteer
and get a fully up to date OS.  Great Way to keep garbage out of your
network or police your bandwidth.  It's great for keeping File sharing
programs out and streaming within limits.

 

Scott Voll
Network Analyst, CCNA 
Willamette ESD
scott.voll at wesd.org





-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Persiko [mailto:mark.persiko at bvsd.k12.co.us] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:03 AM
To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [nsp] NBAR question


Another product you can use is Packeteer PacketShaper, which 
shows egress/ingress protocols and lets you set bandwidth 
allocations or blocks for types of traffic.  This might be
more efficient than the CPU cost of NBAR in software, depending on the
router you use.

Thanks,
 Mark

- Mark C. Persiko, Network Engineer
- IT Division, Boulder Valley School District
- mark.persiko at bvsd.k12.co.us 



-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm at emanon.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 5:38 AM
To: 'Cisco Geek Rotation'; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [nsp] NBAR question


It could be as simple as parts of protocols that aren't caught by the
signature.  Such as passive FTP or something utilizing a high port.
*shrug*

If you really want to be sure of things, plug a sniffer into your line
and take a look at it "manually"!

Scott


-----Original Message-----
From: Cisco Geek Rotation [mailto:cisco at peakpeak.com] 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 9:27 PM
To: swm at emanon.com; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [nsp] NBAR question


At 08:35 PM 3/2/2003 -0500, Scott Morris wrote:
>Wait for more signatures to get programmed into the IOS, or by adding a

>PDLM in your config!
>
>The more signatures to compare against, the more work you want your
>router to do!
>
>Scott


Sure, but looking at what all is in the list of protocols already when I
do 
a show ip nbar proto interface <x> that list looks pretty 
comprehensive.  What other protocols are likely to be happening that are

missing from that list?

Chris


>-----Original Message-----
>From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Cisco Geek 
>Rotation
>Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:22 PM
>To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>Subject: [nsp] NBAR question
>
>
>I've been putting ip nbar protocol-discovery on egress interfaces as a
>way of seeing what kinds of traffic are traversing the WAN links.
>
>What I've noticed even on very late revisions of IOS (a month old) is
>that the "unknown" category always seems to have more traffic than 
>anything else
>(853Kbps here which oeverwhelms the traffic of anything else).  It's as
>though NBAR can't classify a lot of the traffic.  Any ideas how to get
>NBAR
>to more carefully detail what the traffic is?
>
>#show ip nbar proto int fastether4/0/0
>
>   FastEthernet4/0/0
>                              Input                    Output
>     Protocol                 Packet Count             Packet Count
>                              Byte Count               Byte Count
>                              30 second bit rate (bps) 30 second bit
>rate
>(bps)
>     ------------------------ ------------------------
>------------------------
>     fasttrack                458                      1200
>                              27480                    1582200
>                              3000                     123000
>     http                     1218                     2617
>                              543204                   546493
>                              50000                    33000
>     gnutella                 386                      1120
>                              135542                   349589
>                              13000                    33000
>     icmp                     51                       62
>                              9026                     6752
>                              2000                     1000
>     smtp                     26                       69
>                              6167                     7032
>                              3000                     0
>
>
><snip>
>
>     unknown                  2052                     11682
>                              758973                   7760912
>                              88000                    853000
>     Total                    4529                     17380
>                              1546650                  10359269
>                              165000                   1045000
>
>
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