[c-nsp] BGP, RIP and default routes advice

Rodney Dunn rodunn at cisco.com
Thu Aug 5 11:27:37 EDT 2004


Is it in the database of the border?
I'm not sure which router you got the output from.

What code is on the border?

On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 05:19:50PM +0200, Marco Matarazzo wrote:
> Yes I checked it... and it's not receiving the default (and also no errors).
> I think the problem is the border not sending it, as I can't see it the
> debug log (I looked at the full log, and it doesn't appear).
> Also it's not appearing in the rip database of the downstream... very very
> strange indeed...
> 
> Thanks!
> ]\/[arco
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rodney Dunn" <rodunn at cisco.com>
> To: "Marco Matarazzo" <marmata at libero.it>
> Cc: "Rodney Dunn" <rodunn at cisco.com>; "Sam Stickland"
> <sam_ml at spacething.org>; <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP, RIP and default routes advice
> 
> 
> > Did you check the downstream router?
> >
> > Try looking at the full 'sh log' or
> > try "sh log | incl RIP|tag".
> >
> > hub_#sh ip ro
> > Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
> >        D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
> >        N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
> >        E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
> >        i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS inter
> area
> >        * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
> >        P - periodic downloaded static route
> >
> > Gateway of last resort is not set
> >
> >      1.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > C       1.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial2/0.1
> >      4.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > C       4.4.4.1 is directly connected, Loopback0
> > hub_#sh ip rip da
> > hub_#sh ip rip database
> > 0.0.0.0/0    auto-summary
> > 0.0.0.0/0    redistributed
> >     [0] via 0.0.0.0,
> > 1.0.0.0/8    auto-summary
> > 1.1.1.0/24    directly connected, Serial2/0.1
> > 4.0.0.0/8    auto-summary
> > 4.4.4.1/32    directly connected, Loopback0
> > hub_#debug ip rip
> > RIP protocol debugging is on
> > hub_#
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514: RIP: sending v2 update to 224.0.0.9 via Serial2/0.1
> (1.1.1.1)
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514: RIP: build update entries
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514:   0.0.0.0/0 via 0.0.0.0, metric 1, tag 0
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514:   4.0.0.0/8 via 0.0.0.0, metric 1, tag 0
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514: RIP: sending v2 update to 224.0.0.9 via Loopback0
> (4.4.4.1)
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514: RIP: build update entries
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514:   0.0.0.0/0 via 0.0.0.0, metric 1, tag 0
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.514:   1.0.0.0/8 via 0.0.0.0, metric 1, tag 0
> > *Aug  5 15:06:43.566: RIP: ignored v2 packet from 4.4.4.1 (sourced from
> one of our addresses)
> > hub_#un all
> > All possible debugging has been turned off
> >
> > You show command would have missed  it because the route is on
> > a separate line.
> >
> > See if that is what it is.
> >
> > Rodney
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 04:47:00PM +0200, Marco Matarazzo wrote:
> > > I tried that, but it's not working, so I thought that without a default
> > > router installed, it wouldn't originate one:
> > >
> > > Border router:
> > >
> > > router rip
> > >  version 2
> > >  passive-interface default
> > >  no passive-interface FastEthernet0/0.6
> > >  network 1.1.1.1
> > >  default-information originate
> > >  no auto-summary
> > >
> > > sh ip route
> > > Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
> > >        D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
> > >        N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
> > >        E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
> > >        i - IS-IS, su - IS-IS summary, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS
> level-2
> > >        ia - IS-IS inter area, * - candidate default, U - per-user static
> > > route
> > >        o - ODR, P - periodic downloaded static route
> > >
> > > Gateway of last resort is not set
> > >
> > > [output omitted]
> > >
> > > sh ip rip dat
> > > 1.0.0.0/8    auto-summary
> > > 1.1.1.0/20    directly connected, Null0
> > > 1.1.1.1/29    directly connected, FastEthernet0/0.6
> > >
> > > sh log | in RIP
> > > Aug  5 16:43:30.621: RIP-DB: redist 0.0.0.0/0(metric 0) to RIP
> > > Aug  5 16:43:43.129: RIP-TIMER: periodic timer expired
> > > Aug  5 16:43:43.129: RIP: sending v2 update to 224.0.0.9 via
> > > FastEthernet0/0.6 (81.29.192.82)
> > > Aug  5 16:43:43.129: RIP: build update entries
> > > Aug  5 16:43:43.129: RIP: Update contains 1 routes
> > > Aug  5 16:43:43.129: RIP: Update queued
> > > Aug  5 16:43:43.129: RIP: Update sent via FastEthernet0/0.6
> > >
> > > It's sending always only one route, the default is never sent, and it's
> not
> > > in the RIP database... but from the debug output, it seems to
> redistribute
> > > 0.0.0.0/0 to RIP... what can be wrong?!?!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > ]\/[arco
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Rodney Dunn" <rodunn at cisco.com>
> > > To: "Sam Stickland" <sam_ml at spacething.org>
> > > Cc: "Marco Matarazzo" <marmata at libero.it>; <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [c-nsp] BGP, RIP and default routes advice
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yep...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hub_#sh run | begin router rip
> > > > router rip
> > > >  version 2
> > > >  network 1.0.0.0
> > > >  network 4.0.0.0
> > > >  default-information originate
> > > >
> > > > hub_#sh ip ro
> > > > Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B -
> BGP
> > > >        D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
> > > >        N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
> > > >        E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
> > > >        i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
> inter
> > > area
> > > >        * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
> > > >        P - periodic downloaded static route
> > > >
> > > > Gateway of last resort is not set
> > > >
> > > >      1.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > C       1.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial2/0.1
> > > >      4.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > C       4.4.4.1 is directly connected, Loopback0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > downstream spoke:
> > > >
> > > > spokeA_#sh ip ro
> > > > Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B -
> BGP
> > > >        D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
> > > >        N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
> > > >        E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
> > > >        i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, ia - IS-IS
> inter
> > > area
> > > >        * - candidate default, U - per-user static route, o - ODR
> > > >        P - periodic downloaded static route
> > > >
> > > > Gateway of last resort is 1.1.1.1 to network 0.0.0.0
> > > >
> > > >      1.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
> > > > C       1.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial3/0.1
> > > > R    4.0.0.0/8 [120/1] via 1.1.1.1, 00:00:10, Serial3/0.1
> > > > R*   0.0.0.0/0 [120/1] via 1.1.1.1, 00:00:10, Serial3/0.1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rodney
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 02:02:12PM +0100, Sam Stickland wrote:
> > > > > Is there an RIP equivalent of BGP's 'neighbor default-originate'?
> > > > >
> > > > > (
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios123/123cgcr/iprrp_r/ip2_n1g.htm#wp1037042
> > > > > )
> > > > >
> > > > > In fact, a quick google search has just shown me that there is :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/np1_r/1rprt1/1rrip.htm#1017420
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like this ought to do the trick:
> > > > >
> > > > > router rip
> > > > >   default-information originate
> > > > >
> > > > > If it works like the bgp default-originate there's no need to have a
> > > > > default route on the borders for this to work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sam
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2004, Marco Matarazzo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've a little question to ask about default routes and their
> > > redistribution
> > > > > > in RIP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right now I've two border 7200s speaking eBGP with two ISPs, and
> iBGP
> > > > > > between them. The eBGP peers are full, without default. The
> internal
> > > router
> > > > > > now is an OpenBSD with zebra, taking participating in the iBGP
> peers.
> > > No
> > > > > > problems so far, zebra has the full routing tables, and knows how
> to
> > > route
> > > > > > packets in the world.
> > > > > > We're in the process of removing the OpenBSD router, and install
> some
> > > > > > 3550-48-SMIs as customer facing routers. They'll run RIP (it's
> SMI)
> > > with the
> > > > > > two borders, and redistribute the connected customer routes to
> them.
> > > Of
> > > > > > course those 3550s must also have a default route. And this is the
> > > problem.
> > > > > > I don't want to configure a couple of static ones, since it's all
> > > ethernet,
> > > > > > and the interfaces won't go down, and the backup default will
> never
> > > catch
> > > > > > in. Also I don't take default from the upstreams, so I must create
> one
> > > on
> > > > > > the borders. Connection to the upstreams is also ethernet, so no
> > > statics
> > > > > > here. From what I understand, I'll have to use the ip
> default-network
> > > > > > statement, but which network to use? Have you any suggestion?
> > > > > > Could I just take the network number of a couple large NAPs in the
> > > region,
> > > > > > hoping that they won't do a mantainance of the electrical panels
> in
> > > the same
> > > > > > hours of the same day? :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA!
> > > > > > ]\/[arco
> > > > > >
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