[nsp] 6509 + MFSC2 + CAR ?

Wed Feb 4 16:35:20 EST 2004

At 12:44 PM 2/4/2004 -0800, Richard J. Sears wrote:
>We have Sup1As so there is nothing supported on these...?
>

Sup1A support ingress policing. I only consider Cisco IOS for Catalyst 6000 
Supervisor and not CatOS. If you run CatOS you have to configure QoS on the 
CatOS side.

Ian

>On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:36:40 -0800
>Ian Cox <icox at cisco.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Definitive Answer:
> >
> > #1 Don't use "rate-limit" command it only effects traffic that is switched
> > by the MSFC, and for Sup2 and Sup720 that should be
> > just about nothing. In latter release it has finally been removed to stop
> > confusion. It works if you make your traffic get switched by the MSFC and
> > that it not a something you want to do.
> >
> > #2 Sup2 only supports input policing. Configure this feature though the
> > modular qos cli (MQC) like this:
> >
> > class a1
> >    match access-group 100
> > policy-map test
> >    class a1
> >       police 10000000 312500 312500 conform-action transmit 
> exceed-action drop
> >
> > int fast 3/1
> >    service-poicy input test
> >
> >
> > #3 Sup720 supports input policing and output policing per vlan or per
> > logical / physical interface
> >
> > #4 Shaping is only supported upon the WAN modules. FlexWAN and Enhanced
> > FlexWAN supports shaping, OSM modules support Shaping on the interfaces
> > that are connected to the PXF processors. All QoS for the WAN interfaces
> > must be configured by the MQC (aka using class and policy maps).
> >
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > At 11:11 AM 2/4/2004 -0800, Richard J. Sears wrote:
> > >Yes - I did read that - however there is a difference of opinion in
> > >relation to if any of it works at all.
> > >
> > >On one hand, I have people telling me that the 6509 does not support any
> > >type of shaping/rate limiting/etc, and then I have people telling me
> > >that it does.
> > >
> > >What I am asking for is an example of a working config - thats all.
> > >
> > >I have yet to see one that actually works leading me to believe that the
> > >folks who have told me it simply does not work are correct.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 13:43:33 -0500
> > >Jason Lixfeld <jason at lixfeld.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There was a thread about this yesterday.  From that thread:
> > > >
> > > > 6500 does not do any *shaping*, it does policing/rate limiting. In 
> other
> > > > words, we won't "smooth out a bursty flow" by buffering traffic, we
> > > > basically put a hard cap on usage.
> > > >
> > > > Both sup1 & sup2 support *ingress* policing only, and you need to make
> > > > sure you are using the right combination of CLI commands to accomplish
> > > > this, otherwise it won't work or won't work as expected. There 
> should be
> > > > some example configs on cisco.com in the support area, or use the 
> config
> > > > guide (which admittedly can be a bit hard to follow).
> > > >
> > > > Sup720 supports ingress & egress policing, but do note on egress 
> that it
> > > > is aggregate policing only and only on a per-routed (L3) interface or
> > > > per VLAN basis only, *not* on a per-Layer 2 switch port basis.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Richard J. Sears wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have spent a bunch of time reading all the entries I could find
> > > > > pertaining
> > > > > to 6509's and CAR. Several people have claimed to
> > > > > get it working:
> > > > >
> > > > > ***snip***
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but I know a number of people who use 6500s+MSFCs solely for the
> > > > > purpose of utilizing CAR to traffic-shape their customers
> > > > > and they're all quite pleased.
> > > > >
> > > > > ***snip***
> > > > >
> > > > > and yet other claim Cisco told them it would not work at all due to
> > > > > the PFC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am looking for someone who can tell me if CAR will work on 6509's
> > > > > and if they have it working, exactly how they got it to work. I see
> > > > > some references to policers on the PFC as a work around, and would
> > > > > like more information on that if someone has it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is my config that I am trying to make work:
> > > > >
> > > > > (CEF is enabled on the port and on the switch)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > interface FastEthernet3/5
> > > > >  description Connection to Chris's Office Linux Box
> > > > >  ip address 10.10.50.1 255.255.255.252
> > > > >  rate-limit input 1000000 50000 50000 conform-action transmit
> > > > > exceed-action drop
> > > > >  rate-limit output 1000000 50000 50000 conform-action transmit
> > > > > exceed-action drop
> > > > >  load-interval 30
> > > > >  no cdp enable
> > > > >
> > > > > Hence to say, that I can merrily download via ftp from that box at 10
> > > > > to 15mbps all day long and a sh int rate-limit does not show any 
> hits.
> > > > >
> > > > > My goal is to rate-limit colo customers attached to our 6509 
> switches,
> > > > > and any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our 6509's are configured with Sup1A w/MFSC2s and 256MB RAM each. We
> > > > > are
> > > > > running IOS only on the 6509's (no Cat Code).
> > > > >
> > > > > My goal is to rate limit my colo customers both inbound and 
> outbound so
> > > > > they cannot use more bandwidth then they want and hence not get a 
> huge
> > > > > bill.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ******************************************
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>Richard J. Sears
>Vice President
>American Digital Network
>----------------------------------------------------
>rsears at adnc.com
>http://www.adnc.com
>----------------------------------------------------
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>858.427.2401 - Fax
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>I fly because it releases my mind
>from the tyranny of petty things . .
>
>
>"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've
>never been hurt and dance like you do when nobody's
>watching."