[c-nsp] Dual Layer3 CPE-PE links

Bruce Pinsky bep at whack.org
Mon Aug 28 20:44:51 EDT 2006


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Jee Kay wrote:
> I have a customer to whom I have 2 separate layer{1,2,3} links. These
> are with different carriers, terminating on different sets of
> equipment in diverse parts of the country with the aim of redundancy
> in case of most failures. One link is 'primary' and should always be
> used if it is available except after a failure - see below.
> 
> The customer unfortunately has stateful firewalling on their side, and
> the firewalls at the two customer sites cannot synchronise state. As
> such, if there is a failover all the customer's users are disconnected
> but can then reconnect again pretty quickly.
> 
> This means that a flapping (or a simple down for a while/up
> transition) primary causes an unacceptable number of disconnections.
> More than one in a single day isn't really tenable for us. As such,
> what we'd _really_ like to do is some way whereby we can say 'if the
> primary link goes down, keep it down until manual intervention brings
> it back up', and use the backup link in the mean time. Note that as
> the links go across 'metro ethernet' (ie cheap) circuits, the link
> going down doesn't necessarily result in a L1/L2 down on either CPE/PE
> routers - most likely the only thing we'll see is a failure of
> whatever L3 routing protocol we're running across the links or any
> other shiny monitoring we set up.
> 
> (As a final caveat, the customer is pretty much unable to change any
> config or behaviour on their routers due to internal procedures).
> 

What kind of recommendations are you looking for considering you can't
change anything in the configs or the design?

> In more detail, we have eBGP peerings across either link (but do not
> run iBGP in any shape between the routers internally) and the IGP is
> OSPF.
> 
> Has anyone run into a similar problem, or can see a reasonable way to
> sort this out? We're currently hacking something together with lots of
> HSRP addresses and iBGP peerings and other pretty-but-nasty things
> that sort of get the job done but are a pain in the backside to
> maintain/understand.
> 

Sounds like you're doing about everything you can given the limitations
you've expressed above.

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