[c-nsp] EOS/EOL for the 7500 platform

Stephen Fulton sf at lists.esoteric.ca
Fri Dec 15 16:40:14 EST 2006


I'm doing some capacity planning for the future and I've been thinking
exactly the same thing.  

The result?  I'm looking at Juniper gear more and more.

-- Stephen. 


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> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Peter Salanki
> Sent: December 15, 2006 4:35 PM
> To: David Sinn
> Cc: Cisco-nsp
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] EOS/EOL for the 7500 platform
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> This is causing us problems today, as we simply don't know 
> what to buy, and I think this will lead to even bigger 
> trouble for us (and
> others) who are running 6500s in a SP environment and vice 
> versa. I would say that the enterprise and service provider 
> type of networks are converging in technology (ethernet is 
> replacing different technologies in SP, and more complex 
> features are required in enterprise), so I would rather 
> expect a merge of the two BUs than even more segregation.
> 
> I don't know if it's my AM that is keeping info from me, or 
> if cisco really is trying to hide their agenda for this. Can 
> anyone answer if the future SP codebase will continue to work 
> on sup720, or if I need to upgrade all my boxes to RSP720, 
> and if so, do I have to throw all my 6500 chassis away?
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Peter Salanki
> Chief Network Engineer
> Bahnhof AB (AS8473)
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> 15 dec 2006 kl. 21.56 skrev David Sinn:
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> > Add to the list of unknowns and currently not openly 
> communicated, is 
> > if it really will just remain a software difference.
> >
> > Say for example you buy a 6500 chassis today because it 
> matches your 
> > needs.  In the future you need the 7600 software, will it function 
> > since the ROM says it's a 6500 chassis, even if all of the 
> line cards 
> > are supported in the release?  Will it not be supported since it is 
> > likely not tested by the other BU?  What about the other way around?
> > And there is a E/S backplane issue too.
> >
> > The whole split has NEVER made sense for the customer and it making 
> > less so all the time.
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:02 PM, Tim Durack wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/15/06, Jared Mauch <jared at puck.nether.net> wrote:
> >>>        They're the same platform, just two different BUs that are 
> >>> fighting for your dollars selling the same bits.  
> Currently they're 
> >>> both earl7 so you will see the same limits.  The only 
> difference is 
> >>> software.  We'll see how well the fight goes in the new year.
> >>>
> >>>        At least they're finally killing the 7500.  It's 
> been needed 
> >>> for a long time.
> >>
> >> I realise that's the case, but the RSP720 only mentions 
> 7600, as does 
> >> the ES-20GE linecard.
> >>
> >> If I chose 6500 over 7600 (or vice-versa) am I going to regret it 
> >> down the road?
> >> Without a clear roadmap it's impossible to tell.
> >>
> >> Tim:>
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