[c-nsp] EOS/EOL for the 7500 platform

[David Sinn]

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A critical point Cisco is missing in this is, what is the difference  
between a SP and an Enterprise today?  I know of multiple enterprises  
looking to or have already moved to MPLS-VPN's.  Multiple that  
segment their departments/business-units by BGP and act as the  
transport between them.  How is that any different then being a  
private SP?  Ah, but yet they need to also play in the arena of being  
a Enterprise with lots of ethernet aggregation, PoE, VoIP and stacks  
of services modules.  So which of the two do they choose?

David

On Dec 15, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Tim Durack wrote:

> Boss: "What do you mean feature x / hardware y isn't supported on our
> new $100K Cisco?"
>
> Me: "Well, we bought the switch, not the router"
>
> Nice.
>
> On 12/15/06, John.Herbert at ins.com <John.Herbert at ins.com> wrote:
>> I gather from what my Cisco rep was telling me recently that (as  
>> Jared
>> indicates) the difference is - and will be - in the software. The BU
>> that owns the 7600 code is planning to head in a somewhat different
>> direction (i.e. SP focus) than the 6500 (more Enterprise focused).  
>> I'm
>> told that 7600 software will not run on 6500, and vice versa.
>>
>> And yes, about time the 7500 took a jump. ;-)
>>
>> John.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jared Mauch
>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 2:41 PM
>> To: Tim Durack
>> Cc: Cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] EOS/EOL for the 7500 platform
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 02:27:30PM -0500, Tim Durack wrote:
>>> The replacement options are interesting:
>>>
>>> "The Cisco 7600 Series Router with Supervisor 720 is a scalable
>>> solution offering IPv4, IPv6, and advanced MPLS and VPLS services in
>>> hardware."
>>>
>>> "The Cisco Catalyst 6500 Series Switch with Supervisor 720 is a
>>> scalable solution offering IPv4, IPv6 and MPLS services in  
>>> hardware."
>>>
>>> As far as I was aware, MPLS support is identical on either  
>>> platorm at
>> present.
>>> Is this the start of 6500/7600 being targeted for different markets?
>>>
>>> Cisco really need to make this clear - at the moment it is difficult
>>> to determine what hardware/software functionality is going to be
>>> available on these two platforms moving forward.
>>
>>        They're the same platform, just two different BUs that are
>> fighting for your dollars selling the same bits.  Currently  
>> they're both
>> earl7 so you will see the same limits.  The only difference is  
>> software.
>> We'll see how well the fight goes in the new year.
>>
>>        At least they're finally killing the 7500.  It's been  
>> needed for
>> a long time.
>>
>>        - Jared
>>
>> --
>> Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from  
>> jared at puck.nether.net
>> clue++;      | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My statements are only
>> mine.
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