[c-nsp] Frame PVC -> 802.1q VLAN

Matthew Crocker matthew at crocker.com
Tue Dec 19 17:08:14 EST 2006


Seranoa had a product which did that (Frame Relay Frames -> dot1q  
VLAN tagging) called the WANPort.   Their techology was purchased by  
Whiterock (www.whiterock.com) and is now sold as the VLX300 &  
VLX400.   I have one of the old Seranoa boxes,  works great, too bad  
they never survived.  It can do FR-PVC, PPP, MLPP, HDLC framing to  
802.1q,  terminate an OC-12 worth of DS-1s into 336 vlans on a GigE  
trunk going to a router.


On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:53 PM, David Freedman wrote:

>> Hmm, above you say "...at the IP level" and here you say  
>> "bridge".  So
>> which do really want; layer 2 interworking or layer 3 forwarding?
>
> I actually want to bridge raw IP packets , I know that sounds strange
> but would be the terminology I would use when configuring IRB  
> between a
> serial interface and an ethernet one (i.e Frame-Relay frames  
> arriving on
> serial interface have their IP payload stripped out, and put in an
> ethernet frame and sent over the ethernet)
> I'm reluctant to call it "routed" since no IP routing is taking place.
>
>
>
>> I think you are more looking for L2VPN Interworking.  It's generally
>> used
>> between PE devices but I suppose could be done local to the same PE
>
> I didn't try L2VPN interworking (we use this already to achieve the  
> same
> thing across the network) simply because I assumed that it would not
> work locally on the same box.
>
> Having just tried it, I can confirm it does not work, allthough saying
> that the looped back pseudowire seems to have established itself:
>
> Router#show l2tun
>   Tunnel and Session Information Total tunnels 2 sessions 2
>
> LocID RemID Remote Name   State  Remote Address  Port  Sessions  
> L2TPclass
> 11333 52675 R4            est    10.8.8.8        0     1
> interworking-cl
>
> LocID      RemID      TunID      Username, Intf/
>    State
>                                   Vcid, Circuit
> 42051      42053      11333      1, Fa2/0.200:200
>    est
>
> LocID RemID Remote Name   State  Remote Address  Port  Sessions  
> L2TPclass
> 52675 11333 R4            est    10.9.9.9        0     1
> interworking-cl
>
> LocID      RemID      TunID      Username, Intf/
>    State
>                                   Vcid, Circuit
> 42053      42051      52675      1, Se1/0:200
>    est
>
>
> Router#show l2tun session  all | in sent
>      8 Packets sent, 0 received
>      1402 Bytes sent, 0 received
>      0 Packets sent, 7 received
>      0 Bytes sent, 1028 received
>
>
>
>> If can tell us a little more about exactly what you need to do,  
>> perhaps I
>> can figure out some other alternatives.
>
> I've two WAN circuits that I'd like to be able to interconnect with
> eachother in a location for a few weeks, one is delivered as frame  
> relay
> NNI bundle and the other is a VLAN bundle over Gigabit Ethernet,  
> neither
> circuit can be changed such that they are the same technology and the
> goal is to be able to use the bridged link to carry IP traffic on  
> behalf
> of a service requiring a full IPv4 routing table (hence VRF out of the
> question).
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Dave.
>
>
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