[c-nsp] Article: Beware of counterfeit Cisco gear

[Shane@Doretel]

Jon,

As a Cisco Partner I can tell you for sure it is bad. We often find that we 
cannot even get close to the Fake Cisco prices:( It is really hard to 
explain to a customer that yea our Factory Refurb WIC-1T is $160 ea when 
they can get it from someone on EBAY that has a 5000 Positive Feedback Score 
for $25 ea. When you try to explain that by placing Fake Cisco into your 
authorized gear you run the risk of voiding your SMARTnet's and warranties 
often they don't care they are only trying to save a quick buck and do not 
think of the long term issues they can have.

The whole thing sucks! My 2 cents:)

Shane Breen
Doretel Communications, Inc.
Director of Sales & Marketing
Cisco Registered Partner
Office: 404.755.5721
Fax: 404.529.4617
sbreen at doretel.com
AIM: shanebreen2003
www.doretel.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Lewis" <jlewis at lewis.org>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm at toybox.placo.com>
Cc: <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Article: Beware of counterfeit Cisco gear


> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>> It isn't as bad as your making it out to be.  A lot of the fakes aren't
>> fake at all, they are theft.  What they are is illegal runs off the same
>> production lines that the authorized runs are under.
>
> The conspiracty theorist in me says cisco may be making things sound much
> worse than they are in order to scare people into buying from "normal
> distribution channels" rather than ebay or shadey network gear resellers.
>
>> Additionally, in the auto industry, this sort of thing goes on all the
>> time, and there's nothing illegal about it, they call it "aftermarket
>> parts"  General Motors does not have a problem if I buy a new Alternator
>> from NAPA and put it in my GM car.  Cisco should not have a problem if I
>> buy a new WIC card and put it in my Cisco router.  The fact that they
>> do, pushes this stuff underground which exacerbates the problem.
>
> If the parts skip quality control, are sold cheap by 3rd parties (not
> cisco) and claim to be cisco (not cisco compatible, but actual cisco)
> parts, there are multiple problems there.
>
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