[c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
Frank Bulk
frnkblk at iname.com
Tue Jun 5 13:25:51 EDT 2007
It's the north-south/east-west discussion. With H-REAP you can manage them
centrally but switch the traffic locally. As McLean noted, with the low
number of APs at each location, RRM and LBS won't really be possible.
If go without a distributed solution then you'll want to analyze your
current traffic patterns and budget the WAN link accordingly.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Voll, Scott [mailto:Scott.Voll at wesd.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:50 AM
To: Dan
Cc: frnkblk at iname.com; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: [c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
Your right.... I don't want to traverse the WAN twice either.... but how
much traffic is really going across twice. Is it enough to worry about?
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan [mailto:dan at technc.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:44 AM
To: Voll, Scott
Cc: frnkblk at iname.com; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
The schools are not firewalled between each other. They all have a
local file server. Maybe I'm getting confused... Here's an example.
Notebook A connects to an access point in the school, is able to roam
from AP to AP within the building, the user logs into the local server
does there work etc...just as if there was no controller and this
building was not part of a larger network. But, there is a controller
in a remote building doing the security and setup of the access points.
I read the H-REAP document and seems like this should work. The main
thing is I don't want all of the wireless clients main network traffic
going back to the controller and traversing the wan connection.
Yes I agree multiple controllers would be best.
Dan.
Voll, Scott wrote:
> If I had to be perfectly honest......I hate making changes to 24
AP....
> 50 would really be a pain. If this is a School district..... why do
> they have to have local access. Is each school Firewalled?
>
> Someone did recommend multiple controllers for redundancy which is a
> good Idea. But if the schools are not Firewalled then you should be
> able to make it work without HREAP.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dan
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:13 PM
> To: frnkblk at iname.com; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
>
> Thanks for the info,
>
> Well there is a few reasons that I wanted to go with cisco instead of
a
> different company, but my mind isn't made up.
>
> So as far as I can tell, i'm limited to 8 access points if i use
> H-REAP. Controllers at each site is definitly out of the budget
range.
>
> I'm interested in the rouge access point security (I know some kid or
> better yet a staff member will try to bring in there own ap). With 50
> AP's i'm not to worried about being able to push out configs to each
> access point. If I had to make a change to all of them I could fine
the
>
> time. The other concern I had is that without a controller what
> security options do I have? Are there other things I should be
looking
> into or planning for?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan.
>
> Frank Bulk wrote:
>
>> Right, it just depends how much Dan really wants to go with Cisco.
Or
>> fumble through H-REAP.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Voll, Scott [mailto:Scott.Voll at wesd.org]
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:27 PM
>> To: frnkblk at iname.com; Dan; cisco-nsp
>> Subject: RE: [c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
>>
>> Unless you have a bunch of AP's at each site........ $$$ wise it
>> doesn't make sense to spend the dollars for controllers at each site
>> IMHO.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:13 PM
>> To: 'Dan'; cisco-nsp
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
>>
>> As Scott already posted, H-REAP is Cisco's distributed AP solution.
>>
> You
>
>> could deploy the smaller 4400's at each location or consider the
3750G
>> with its wireless support. If that doesn't work for you, you'll have
>>
> to
>
>> consider another vendor.
>>
>> Aerohive, Colubris, Meru, and Trapeze all have such
>> distributed/edge-switching architectures. See the last half of this
>> column:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2cs2bb
>> for more details.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:04 PM
>> To: cisco-nsp
>> Subject: [c-nsp] wireless lan controller and remote ap
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm interested in deploying a wireless lan in a school district.
>>
> There
>
>> are 19 buildings connected via wireless bridges. I need about 45
>>
> access
>
>> pointed in total and I was looking at the 4400 series of wireless lan
>> controllers. I was wondering if it is possible to have one
controller
>>
>
>
>> centrally located and have remote access points in the buildings
>>
> managed
>
>> by the controller. The only catch is I don't want all of the traffic
>> going back to the wireless lan controller, I would like the network
>> traffic to go back to the main switch, because the users will be
>>
> logging
>
>> in locally, and just the management traffic to go back to the
>> controller.
>>
>> I have been getting different answers from many people including
cisco
>>
>
>
>> pre-sales, so I was wondering if anyone had real work experience with
>> this type of application?
>>
>> Please let me know if I was not clear.
>> Thanks,
>> Dan.
>>
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