[c-nsp] Question about the CCNA and CCNP certification

[Bernd Ueberbacher]

Thanks for the info!
So I was right... I'm wondering how he will react when I'm telling him 
on Monday ;-)

I was just not sure, I knew that the CCIE has no prerequisites so I just 
thought that maybe he's right.

> However, there is no prereq for a CCIE.  If you're board with
> figuring out subnet masks and the basic stuff why don't you just
> get a CCIE?
>   
Hmm, good idea. I haven't planned anything for the weekend, so I'll 
learn everything I need for the CCIE. I can read and understand a book 
as fast as Superman!
With this subnet mask stuff etc I just wanted to explain the point why 
the other guy wants to skip it. I got all the CCNA books etc and MY 
intention is to make the CCNA, but my colleague says time is money and 
doesn't want to spend his time with subnetting and other basic stuff but 
reads a BCMSN etc book. Too bad it won't help him much on his way to 
become a CCNP without being CCNA certified...


Thanks again,
Bernd




>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jay
> Hennigan
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 5:35 PM
> To: Bernd Ueberbacher
> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Question about the CCNA and CCNP
> certification
>
> Bernd Ueberbacher wrote:
>
>   
>> A guy I know from a different company also wants to become a
>>     
> CCNP, but 
>   
>> today he told me, that he is heading directly towards the CCNP
>>     
> without 
>   
>> passing the CCNA. I said that this is not possible, but he was 
>> completely sure about it and had an interesting explanation...
>>     
> He says 
>   
>> that the CCNA is a requirement for the CCNP if you want to
>>     
> attend a CCNP 
>   
>> class room course. This prevents that you have absolutely no
>>     
> clue about 
>   
>> networking and slow down the whole group/class. If you don't
>>     
> attend the 
>   
>> class, but do it by self studying and just take the exam with
>>     
> Pearson 
>   
>> Vue etc, you don't need a valid CCNA certification. This is
>>     
> because it's 
>   
>> your money/problem if you fail but you are not annoying anybody
>>     
> else 
>   
>> with your incompetence and if you have no clue you just don't
>>     
> pass.
>
> He is wrong.
>
> CCNA is a prerequisite for CCNP regardless if you take classroom 
> training or just schedule the exams at Pearson VUE.  You will not
>
> receive a CCNP certificate without first having a valid CCNA.  I
> suppose 
> you could take them all at once if you want to do so.
>
> See http://www.cisco.com/go/ccnp
>
> See the line "CCNP Prerequisites".
>
>