[c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at toybox.placo.com
Wed Apr 2 04:40:53 EDT 2008



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gert Doering [mailto:gert at greenie.muc.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:41 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Mohacsi Janos; Carlos Friacas; Church, Charles;
> cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:14:58PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > The reason is that the Internet
> > community is unwilling to allow the RIR's to ever engage in
> > portable micro-allocations - you will likely never be able to
> > obtain IPv6 directly from a RIR,
>
> Please stop spreading FUD like this.  4 of the 5 RIRs already give out
> provider-independent /48s to end users.
>

Requirements for direct IPv6 that your typical end-user cannot meet:

ARIN:  must qualify for direct IPv4
RIPE:  must be an ISP/LIR aka must plan on reassigning from the block
APNIC:  "should not be an end site"
LACNIC: The minimum allocation size for IPv6 address space is /32 also must
be an ISP/LIR
AFRINIC: The minimum allocation size for IPv6 address space is /32, also
must not be
an end site

Use your head.  If every end user on the Internet could get a /48 directly
from
an RIR the global BGP table would melt any router designed into slag.  The
IPv6 criteria for all RIR's is not much different than that for IPv4.
Fundamentally
you must demonstrate need, and you must demonstrate utilization.  The
average
single-homed org cannot demonstrate need.  And with IPv6, because the
globally-significant part of the number is only on the router, if the
organization
is properly setup, renumbering is a
snap, so the poor excuse that renumbering labor would be so high as to
justify
not renumbering isn't available.

What it boils down to is if you have a portable IPv4 now, you can get a
portable IPv6.  But if you don't qualify to get a portable IPv4 now, there
is nothing
magical about IPv6 that will suddenly change the need to restrict portable
numbers to a subset of hosts on the Internet and allow the RIR's to hand out
/48's to anyone who asks.

Perhaps you have some new radical way of routing IP numbers on the Internet
that your planning on introducing.  But until you introduce it, or someone
else
does, the need will still exist to organize numbering on the Internet in a
heiarchical fashion, organized into networks.  IPv6 will not change this, it
will just make it easier to do.

Ted



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