[c-nsp] Recommended Cisco boxes for a smallmultihoming solution?

[Marcus Marinelli]

Łukasz,

I'm not trying to argue that the ASR is not the "better" box in the "Edge
Router" category, but I just want to remind everyone that Magnus originally
was looking for:

"smallest recommeded[sic] Cisco boxes to use for a small multihoming
solution"

With the requirements of:

- 2 full BGP views (approx 260k routes each)
- 100 Mbps bandwidth requirement. (do you have any idea of PPS?)

I think we would all agree that for the most part, an ASR 1002 is very
likely be overkill in this situation. Sure, the VXR will slow down as you
add more features, but as you were alluding to at the end of your email, not
a whole lot of features are really likely to be necessary in this case.

The VXR route has something going for it in this case that the ASR doesn't -
it's been around for a while, and people know them [and 'classic' IOS] very
well. You can also pick up a used 7200VXR chassis and NPE-G1 or G2 for super
cheap (<$10k for a G1 + chassis + power), and have that as a spare.

Marcus

2008/11/15 Łukasz Bromirski <lukasz at bromirski.net>

> Ray Burkholder wrote:
>
>  To get to the point - ASR1002 would be the box.
>>>
>> Are ASR1002's actually worth 3x the price of something like a
>> 7206VXR/NPE-G2?  When you add appropriate licensing costs, pricing can
>> become 5x to 10x the price.  Does it push that many extra packets that
>> much
>> faster?
>>
>
> NPE-G2 is CPU (or - software) router. It does have capability to
> push 2Mpps in theory, now with new features (even with optimized CEF
> feature tree) it will grind down to 1.2~1.8Mpps. ASR1002 does switch
> traffic in hardware (via QFP on ESPs) and adding 'services' doesn't
> cost either any or significant slowdown in forwarding the traffic.
> It can push up to 7Mpps (ESP-5) or 15Mpps (ESP-10) without features
> like IP Multicast QoS, ACLs, QoS, uRPF, and goes down to 'only'
> around 4Mpps or 8Mpps respectively if those features are configured
> in switching path. That's a difference.
>
> ASR1002-5G/K9, bundle with Advanced Enterprise Services and 4GB of RAM,
> and 4xGE ports (SFP that is) is 40k$ in GPL, and 7206VXR bundled with
> NPE-G2 and the same software to have IPv6/etc is 27k$. Which is 13k$
> difference, not '5x to 10x the price'. And with NPE-G2 you're limited to
> 2GB of RAM and software packet processing which of course isn't that
> bad considering the fact what kind of traffic and how much of the
> traffic the box has to push through - it's 100Mbit/s as Magnus said
> on the beginning of the thread.
>
>  Also, in using Cisco's Feature Navigator to compare feature sets, say ADV
>> IP, the XE 2.2.1 line seems to lack a bunch of stuff that might be in say
>> SRD 12.2.33 or SXH 12.2.33 like MPLS TE or further IP6 features.
>>
>
> Apart from some fancier designs, what for do you need MPLS TE on BGP
> peering box? It has to push packets fast, store millions of forwarding
> entries and have ability to protect control plane. Shouldn't that
> be the priority?
>
> --
> "Don't expect me to cry for all the     |               Łukasz Bromirski
>  reasons you had to die" -- Kurt Cobain |    http://lukasz.bromirski.net
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