[c-nsp] Green Cisco

[Arie Vayner (avayner)]

Actually,

Looking at
http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac227/ac228/ac233/about_cisco_environment
al_management.html, the right contact email is there.

Arie

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Hank Nussbacher
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 15:24 PM
To: Justin Shore
Cc: Cisco Nsp
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Green Cisco

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Justin Shore wrote:

> So does Cisco.  When we placed a large order 2 years ago I received to

> identical packages from Singapore (some sort of Air parcel company).
Inside 
> each box was 2 layers of pink foam padding.  Between the foam was 2
sheets of 
> legalese license disclaimer crap.  It wasn't a serial #, license key,
PAK, 
> etc.  It was just more crap to throw away.  The other box had
identical 
> contents.  They were shipped out on the same day.  In fact if memory
serves 
> me correctly they had consecutive tracking and way bill numbers.  I
felt 
> special.
>
> We bought a large quantity of Champion SFPs for a non-Cisco project.
They 
> were shipped packed in sheets of molded anti-static plastic that
contains 
> spots for about a dozen SFPs.  These were packed in anti-static boxes
of 4-5 
> layers of plastic.  No paper crap to through away.  No static bags to
cut 
> open and then trash.  Nice and neat.  Other vendors I won't name here
place 
> them in a padded cardboard box the size of a typical pocket knife.
When I 
> bought several dozen Cisco SFPs a few years back each SFP was in a
static 
> bag.  The static bag was in a large Ziploc of sorts that also
contained 
> several sheets of paper (install info, legalese crap).  For a short
time I 
> actually bothered to open each plastic bag and remove each static bag
and 
> paper.  The paper went into one recycling pile and the plastic bag
into 
> another.  That didn't last long.  I gave up on that waste of time and
started 
> slicing the plastic bags open with my knife to get to the static bag.
Then 
> tossed the rest in the trash.  Same goes for switches and routers.  I
trash 
> every piece of paper in the box.
>
> Their shipping and packing methodologies are less than green.  The
least they 
> could do is give us a part number to exclude the crap.  We have the
"=" part 
> numbers for spares.  How about a "-" part number for green packing?
One 
> would think that it would save Cisco reasonable sums of money too
which I'm 
> sure they'd like to do in these rougher times.
>
> Justin

The guy who would be best to approach is Executive VP of Operations and 
Process - Randy Pound (or Pond).  But since he exercised $15.8M of stock

options this year and $28.5M last year - chances are he has one foot out

the door by now: http://biz.yahoo.com/t/61/4033.html

I guess he knew what was gonna happen to the Cisco stock :-)

-Hank
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