[c-nsp] Network Management System

Wed Oct 22 14:20:44 EDT 2008

I read your article, and it's the first time that I've looked into LLDP.
Turns out half of my devices aren't running IOS that supports it, but I
enabled it on the few that did (with Avaya VoIP phones connected), and it
yielded information that I previously did not have access to.

Out of curiosity, how many people are utilizing LLDP/LLDP-MED in their
networks?

--
Eric Cables

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Mario Spinthiras <
spinthiras.mario at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Since I have dug in to find a respectable monitoring/management system
> in the past , I might as well shre my 2p with you all.
>
> To begin with no monitoring system out there really cuts it simply
> because they are based on bad design. All of them including the top
> notch ones which I will not mention by name.
>
> In an ISP/NSP environment with multi layer switched networks, routing
> protocols running both internally and externally , about 100 linux
> machines doing various things from DNS to WWW, firewalls (PIX/ASA)
> with their respective failover units and a load of other stuff , my
> conclusion was Zenoss. Zenoss was the only one clever enough to
> realize the environment we were introducing to it.
>
> As I said , Zenoss might be the best one so far but then again neither
> of them are "architecture aware" which could then allow you to scale
> your system to predict changes before they are made (during
> maintenance for example) or to do other clever things like suggestions
> of somekind (when networks grow large you need someone to have your
> back). It is indeed an interesting theory that a system like this
> could be more than just a tool , something like a network engineer's
> best friend if you will.
>
> Anyhow I do have a relevant post for such systems which is available at:
>
> http://www.spinthiras.net/2008/07/17/network-monitoring/
>
> I find it hard to believe that people still use nagios or cacti. I
> can't even begin to tell you how superior Zenoss is compared to what
> is out there today.
>
>
> Warm Regards,
> Mario A. Spinthiras
> Lost somewhere in London
> http://www.spinthiras.net/
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Michel Grossenbacher <pashtuk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ibrahim
> > Solarwinds (www.solarwinds.net) is offering different tools which will
> do
> > monitoring (Orion NPM), managing and configuring (Orion Network
> > Configuration Manager) and also offers LAN Surveyor which they say draws
> the
> > network into Visio. I personally only know Orion NPM which is solid
> > monitoring and alarming application. It includes Interface Traffic, CPU,
> > Memory, Delay, Errors Traffic Charts per default, you just gotta include
> the
> > device and specify which links you want to monitor. Its easy to install
> and
> > manage but is not as customizable as other tools that need more time to
> set
> > up and manage.
> > Im sure there are tons of other application (as NAV which was recommended
> by
> > Rikard) but its the only collection of tools I know of which offers
> > (mostly?) everything you want from the same company.
> >
> > Hope it helps a bit
> >
> > best regards
> >
> > Michel
> >
> >
> > 2008/10/22 Rikard Stemland Skjelsvik <rskjels at pogostick.net>
> >
> >>
> >> You could try NAV
> >>
> >> http://metanav.uninett.no/
> >>
> >>
> >> It will help you manage, monitor and draw topologymaps. But it does not
> >> configure devices nor take backup of the device. For that task use
> rancid or
> >> ziptie.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rikard
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Ibrahim Alsharif wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hello Michel
> >>> thanks for ur reply
> >>> what I want is to draw full topology for the network, manage, monitor &
> >>> configure all devices so what do u think ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Michel Grossenbacher <pashtuk at gmail.com>
> >>> To: Mohammed Dado <mdado at airspan.com>
> >>> Cc: Ibrahim Alsharif <ib_cims at yahoo.com>; "cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net"
> <
> >>> cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 6:32:36 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Network Management System
> >>>
> >>> Dunno but I'd suggest to first define what you want to achieve with
> your
> >>> NMS before you look for applications. There are so much applications
> and
> >>> solutions around that it is hard to suggest something :-)
> >>>
> >>> best regards
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2008/10/21 Mohammed Dado <mdado at airspan.com>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Cacti would be great for yourcase ..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Mohammed Dado
> >>> Technical Support Engineer - EMEA
> >>>
> >>> Airspan Communications Ltd
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net [mailto:
> >>> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Alsharif
> >>> Sent: 21 October 2008 16:25
> >>> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> >>> Subject: [c-nsp] Network Management System
> >>>
> >>> hello Guys,
> >>>
> >>> could please help me to choose which Cisco Network Management software,
> >>> Cuz I have a network include LAN, WAN, ASA Firewalls & Voice Equipments
> so I
> >>> need Management Software for these equipments
> >>>
> >>> thank you,
> >>>
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