[c-nsp] Logical Router Segmentation

Brandon Bennett bennetb at gmail.com
Sun Jan 11 20:05:05 EST 2009



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On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:02 AM, "Brad Hedlund (brhedlun)" <brhedlun at cisco.com 
 > wrote:

> The term "VRF-Lite" comes from when Cisco started delivering VRF  
> capabilities across all Catalyst L3 platforms, even the low end.

Exactly.  It's cisco marketing speak.  It's just another name for VRF  
to the rest of us.

> Many vendors do support VRF on their high end routers and switches,  
> but few have comprehensive VRF support from the high end all the to  
> the low end.

Juniper EX series supports it.  Not many other brands I would trust my  
L3 infastruture to.
>
>
> MBGP is not required for L3 VPN's. That's the beauty of VRF-Lite end  
> to end.  A customer can deploy a handfull of L3 VPN's within their  
> own campus without MPLS or BGP.
I should of specified RFC2547 vpns as that's what I was using as a  
comparison.

I guess at the heart if this email is the fact I lothe the vrf-lite  
term or Multi-vrf (ie describing dot1q Or frame-relay in conjunction  
with vrfs)

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Brad Hedlund
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:20 AM, "Brandon Bennett" <bennetb at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Vrf-lite is just a Cisco term for utilizing VRFs when no MPLS is  
>> present.   Any vendor who supports VRFs support "VRF-lite".
>>
>> In all honesty it's a stupid term as VRF technology isn't tied to  
>> MPLS at all.   Yes vrf is required for l3 vpns but so is mBGP and  
>> we don't have mBGP-lite :)
>>
>> -Brandon
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Brad Hedlund <brhedlun at cisco.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/10/09 8:57 AM, "Chris Burwell" <cburwell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am fairly certain the 8212zl can accomplish what was described  
>>>> here,
>>>> the problem will be finding documentation on how to configure
>>>> everything.
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>> I would be curious to see what you come up with.  The 8212 feature  
>>> list on
>>> HP's website doesn't show anything similar to VRF-Lite.  I'm  
>>> pretty sure
>>> VRF-Lite like capabilities are unique to Cisco.  Let me know if  
>>> you find
>>> otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brad Hedlund
>>> bhedlund at cisco.com
>>> http://www.internetworkexpert.org
>>>
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