[c-nsp] L2TPv3 and VLANs

Ge Moua moua0100 at umn.edu
Fri Jun 19 00:13:01 EDT 2009


RTP, video streaming, h.323, & the like; nothing really breaks, just 
"spongy" response if the pipe is saturated.

Regards,
Ge Moua | Email: moua0100 at umn.edu

Network Design Engineer
University of Minnesota | Networking & Telecommunications Services



Paul Stewart wrote:
> Thanks... we don't want to touch each workstation - would involve way too
> much time for our installations...;)
>
> With UDP traffic, does anything "normally" break that comes to mind on
> larger MTU? I can't think of anything hence why I'm asking...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ge Moua [mailto:moua0100 at umn.edu] 
> Sent: June 18, 2009 11:33 AM
> To: Paul Stewart
> Cc: 'Ziv Leyes'; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L2TPv3 and VLANs
>
> Yep, ran into  that to; on the upstream layer-3 hop from hosts do 
> something like "tcp-mss adjust 1300" which will ensure tcp packets haver 
> enough head-room for l2tpv3 headers.  With UDP traffic, this get more 
> tricky; I haven't done this yet but one can adjust max segment size on 
> end-station hosts to something like 1300 (which of course would affect 
> all protocol types); there are open source tools to do this, but 
> downside is that all the end-station hosts need to touched for 
> consistency; i suppose I'm too lazy : - (
>
> Regards,
> Ge Moua | Email: moua0100 at umn.edu
>
> Network Design Engineer
> University of Minnesota | Networking & Telecommunications Services
>
>
>
> Paul Stewart wrote:
>   
>> How did you deal with MTU issues from l2tpv3?  In our testing we would see
>> packets drop instead of fragmenting where they should... I've been meaning
>> to followup on this as we have some great l2tpv3 deployments waiting in
>>     
> the
>   
>> wings...
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ge Moua
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:44 AM
>> To: Ziv Leyes
>> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] L2TPv3 and VLANs
>>
>>
>>  > How do I make this happen on the HQ router?
>>
>> Each l2tp tunnel will have its own vc:  "sh l2tun all"
>>
>> You obviously have thoughts this all out as your logic for how it will 
>> and should work is sound.
>>
>> We are doing a very similar setup over here at the UofMn and this is 
>> working well for us.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ge Moua | Email: moua0100 at umn.edu
>>
>> Network Design Engineer
>> University of Minnesota | Networking & Telecommunications Services
>>
>>
>>
>> Ziv Leyes wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm trying to make sure this following scenario can work.
>>> 3 remote sites, one is the HQ which has a switch that handles 2 vlans,
>>>     
>>>       
>> let's say vlan 10 and vlan 20.
>>   
>>     
>>> The other two branches needs to be connected to the HQ and have a flat
>>>       
> LAN
>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> between them and the HQ, but each branch to it's own vlan, branch 1 to
>>     
> vlan
>   
>> 10 and branch 2 to vlan 20. They must NOT see each other's traffic.
>>   
>>     
>>> Every site has a switch and a router (C2801 I think) Is it possible to
>>>       
> do?
>   
>>> If yes, then I was thinking about L2TPv3, but in this case I'd need to
>>>     
>>>       
>> make two different xconnections between HQ-->Branch 1 and HQ-->Branch 2.
>>   
>>     
>>> How do I make this happen on the HQ router? I was thinking to bring the
>>>     
>>>       
>> vlans via a trunk from the switch and then finishing them on
>>     
> sub-interfaces
>   
>> with dot1q and then xconnecting the sob-interface to each l2tp tunnel to
>> each respective branch. Is it correct or there is a better way?
>>   
>>     
>>> Will this work?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your help
>>> Ziv
>>>
>>>
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