[c-nsp] Cisco vs. Juniper

[Brian Spade]

Mark, what's your thoughts on the MX240?  I'm curious now since you state
not to get you started. :-)

/bs

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Mark Tinka <mtinka at globaltransit.net> wrote:

> On Tuesday 03 November 2009 01:29:24 am Richard A
> Steenbergen wrote:
>
> > They're actually coming out with (or may already be
> > shipping, I don't follow these boxes that closely) a
> > replacement CFEB for M7i/M10i which uses the I-Chip (the
> > same fwding hw as M120 and the current generation of MX).
> > This should give it a slightly longer shelf life, as it
> > will add a bunch of modern features and some additional
> > fib capacity that didn't exist in the old hardware. Still
> > though, this is a very old box (it came out in 2003, as a
> > lower production cost refresh on the M5/M10 which came
> > out in 2000). The CFEB won't fix the very limited
> > capacity, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison against a
> > modern box. MX80 would indeed be a much closer
> > comparison, though the feature set is still pretty
> > different.
>
> I should give it to Cisco, though - the ASR1000 series is a
> really neat platform because it eats up both Ethernet and
> SONET/SDH links alike.
>
> Even if the data plane in the ASR1000 is centralized in
> nature (much like the M7i/M10i), and with a 20Gbps ESP now,
> I'd be more inclined to go for an ASR1000 series box to talk
> Gig-E on one end, and 10-Gig-E, STM-16/OC-48 or
> STM-64/OC-192 on the other.
>
> Juniper don't really have an answer here. Yes, the MX80 is
> probably as close they may come, but it cannot support
> SONET/SDH in a box that can potentially be Ethernet-dense
> for core or edge applications too, while still be physically
> small and relatively inexpensive. The M40e will talk
> SONET/SDH, but it won't support 10Gbps links. And it's way
> bigger than the ASR1000 series boxes.
>
> Don't even get me started on the M120, or the MX240 with an
> MX-FPC :-).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark.
>
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