[c-nsp] NX-OS - Fabric Path

Wed Jul 21 07:13:42 EDT 2010

Hey,

Is it just me or did others also receive a duplicate of the message
below? Not only this one, but also others that had mr LTD as recipient
and the list in CC...
The duplicate comes later and has several Cisco hops in the path,
including a couple of Ironport devices. If it's not just me, mayby
someone at Cisco can have a look... I'd be happy to provide more
details, eg headers.

Regards,

Jeroen van Ingen
ICT Service Centre
University of Twente, P.O.Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede, The Netherlands

----Original Message----
From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Manu Chao Sent:
dinsdag 20 juli 2010 13:28 To: Lincoln Dale (ltd)
Cc: Church, Charles; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NX-OS - Fabric Path

> ;)
> 
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Lincoln Dale <ltd at cisco.com> wrote:
> 
>> i'm guessing whoever upgraded the NX-OS on these did so using
>> scp/ftp/tftp and thus needed to assign an ip-address to do so.
>> 
>> you could verify either way by looking at the output from "show
>> accounting log" which saves all config commands and is persistent
>> across power-loss and based on the date/time recorded there or
>> order-of-events will likely give you an indication of whether it was
>> your guys or the partner. 
>> 
>> the only reason i replied is that i've never heard of us ever doing
>> such a thing, because it would be an incredibly dumb thing to do. 
>> setting a default ip-address might work for a home gateway router /
>> switch, but for something in the data center - no. :)
>> 
>> 
>> cheers,
>> 
>> lincoln.
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/07/2010, at 1:19 PM, Church, Charles wrote:
>> 
>>> Lincoln,
>>> 
>>>       I did leave out one detail.  These were originally
>>> 4.1(3)N2(1), but 
>> our installation guys did bump them up to  4.2 individually prior to
>> installing them.  They tell me they used that pre-configured
>> address, not knowing any better.  But the attached file is a 5020 I
>> took out of a box personally, and fired up.  I guess it's possible
>> our reseller put that on there.  I've seen that same IP address on
>> three other 5020s, and a half dozen 5010s, all bought about the same
>> time from the same reseller.  I'll bounce it off them, sorry about
>> the finger pointing. 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lincoln Dale [mailto:ltd at cisco.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 11:06 PM
>>> To: Church, Charles
>>> Cc: Manu Chao; Peter Rathlev; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NX-OS - Fabric Path
>>> 
>>> 
>>> there is no "default configuration" or pre-coded 10.1.1.50
>>> ip-address on mgmt0. first time you boot a switch it starts the
>>> setup dialog with a serial console port. 
>>> 
>>> <
>>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/datacenter/nexus5000/sw/fundame
ntals/421_n1_1/Cisco_Nexus_5000_Series_NX-OS_Fundamentals_Configuration_
Guide_Release_4_2_1_N1_1_chapter3.html#con_1073243
>>> 
>>> 
>>> if you had a switch with a configuration then either they were
>>> shipped 
>> from manufacturing incorrectly (i guess its a possibility), or your
>> installation guys thought it was a good idea to configure it that
>> way. 
>>> 
>>> as i can find no examples of the former listed in bug searches
>>> internal 
>> to cisco, i'd say it points at the latter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>> lincoln.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 20/07/2010, at 12:36 PM, Church, Charles wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just be careful about connecting the mgmt0 interfaces to anything
>>>> prior to configuring them.  The default IP address of 10.1.1.50 on
>>>> them (at least on the 4.2 5000s) will cause a spectacular ARP
>>>> storm when they conflict with each other, like when you attach
>>>> several unconfigured ones to the same network.  Several thousand
>>>> PPS, eventual reloads, etc.  Our installation guys got ahead of
>>>> the config guys in our new DC, nice little mess it made. Not sure
>>>> why they put a default address on them, hope it's something they
>>>> correct in the future.  
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net
>>>> [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Manu Chao
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 7:17 PM
>>>> To: Peter Rathlev
>>>> Cc: Lincoln Dale; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] NX-OS - Fabric Path
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, but Nexus hardware is the right platform if you don't want to
>>>> loose any packet in your DC ;) 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Peter Rathlev <peter at rathlev.dk>
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 08:29 +1000, Lincoln Dale wrote:
>>>>>> right now the hardware is using a frame format that is not that
>>>>>> of what TRILL uses (and as such we're using a Cisco-defined
>>>>>> ethertype), however the hardware is capable of supporting
>>>>>> standards-based TRILL as and when the standard is finalised &
>>>>>> ratified. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would that hardware happen be the EARL8? And would there be any
>>>>> chance that us "old skool" Cat6500 guys get to share to thrill of
>>>>> TRILL (or similar)? :-) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> <5020 boot.TXT>
>> 
>> 
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