[c-nsp] XRv (xr on a server)

Bruce Pinsky bep at whack.org
Fri Oct 4 20:24:22 EDT 2013

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Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 03/10/2013 16:16, quinn snyder wrote:
>> on a side note -- it requires a lot of compute to run successfully (ram
>> and proc).
> It shouldn't need that much (although the csr1000v's insane compute
> requirements are a complete mystery to me) - anyway, ram and cpu are both
> cheap resources these days.
>> large scale networks will require large pools of  resources.
> This may or may not be true, depending on the scale of what you're trying
> to model.  A hypervisor with 8 cores and 128 gigs of ram costs a small
> amount of money, and would be enough to run a relatively large model
> deployment.

XRv images typically require from about 4G to 8G each of RAM depending on
the image.  That's on top of the orchestration pieces which aren't that
heavy weight.  Other operating systems are around 4G each currently.

>> the software may be free -- but running it may not be if you're short on
>> servers.
> The software costs money to develop but there is no cost associated with
> making another copy of it.

There are costs for ongoing development and sustaining.  There are also
costs to provide real product support.

> The most important thing for Cisco to remember is that it's trivial to
> build virtualised test labs with Junos Olive.  This approach allows people
> to learn enough about the operating system that they feel comfortable about
> switching to or buying more Juniper kit.  I know a good many people who
> started out with Olive and who liked it so much they started buying Juniper
> kit in volume.  Cisco really missed the boat on this - to their cost.
> I don't particularly expect Cisco to provide this sort of facility for
> free, but unless they refrain from their usual policy of premium pricing,
> I'll shrug my shoulders, then move on and spend my budgets on other vendors.

There will be different delivery models and price points that should be
attractive to multiple customer audiences.

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