[c-nsp] QinQ 4500X -> ME3600 and access(pop) multiple inner vlans

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Wed Feb 3 01:05:53 EST 2016


Thanks Eric,

We have no visibility into the remote end, but I have setup the following on one of our ME's (Test service, that has supposedly been configured by carrier, and remote end)

Vlans are:

940 (outer)
941 (Inner)

Both vlans have been created on the ME, and only vlan 940 on the 4500X that connects to carrier:

ME3600 conf

interface GigabitEthernet0/24   <- Connects to 4500X
service instance 940 ethernet
  description description Inner_outer_tag_test_Outer_940_Inner_941
  encapsulation dot1q 940 second-dot1q 941
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain 941

interface Vlan941
 description INNER_OUTER_TAG_TEST
 mtu 9100
 ip address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 255.255.255.252
 no ip proxy-arp


Im unable to ping remote end, nor am I seeing any dynamic Macs for bridge domain 941 - Is there any additional commands I can run to "see" if we are indeed receiving the Outer and Inner Tags on the ME?

The only MAC I am learning on the 4500X is from the ME3600

#sh mac address-table dynamic vlan 940
Unicast Entries
 vlan     mac address     type        protocols               port
---------+---------------+--------+---------------------+-------------------------
 940      3462.882a.4640   dynamic ip,ipx,assigned,other TenGigabitEthernet1/1/3    


cheers

________________________________________
From: Erik Sundberg <ESundberg at nitelusa.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 10:10 PM
To: CiscoNSP List; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: QinQ 4500X -> ME3600 and access(pop) multiple inner vlans

You are probably better using a service instance for each vlan. Then you can send each VLAN where ever.

service instance 800 ethernet
  description description LINK_TO_CARRIER_X_VIA_4500X
  encapsulation dot1q 800 second-dot1q 10
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain 10

service instance 801 ethernet
  description description LINK_TO_CARRIER_X_VIA_4500X
  encapsulation dot1q 800 second-dot1q 20
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain 20


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Another way of doing it is the following

If you have two tag come in, only POP 1 Tag. Then your CTag are put in to the Bridge Domain.

Int G0/1
service instance 800 ethernet
  description LINK_TO_CARRIER_X_VIA_4500X
  encapsulation dot1q 800
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  bridge-domain 800


Then on your Egress port you can set it as untagged, C Tags of 10,20, 30 will be in the bridge domain and will be passed on egress.

 Int G0/2
Description to 4500x
service instance 400 ethernet
  description 4500X
  encapsulation dot1q untagged
  bridge-domain 800


If you need to pull one CTag out for something else you can do that like so.

Int G0/1
service instance 804 ethernet
  description Go Somewhere else
  encapsulation dot1q 800 second-dot1q 40
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  bridge-domain 40


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To: Erik Sundberg <ESundberg at nitelusa.com>; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: QinQ 4500X -> ME3600 and access(pop) multiple inner vlans


Thanks for the quick reply - We use service instances quite a bit, but only popping first tag, then creating vlan int (for vrf), or PW....so fairly basic stuff :)

In this circumstance, where we would receive vlan 800 as outer tag, and we want to access inner vlans 10,20,30 how would this look under a service instance?

ie.  Something like?

 service instance 800 ethernet
  description description LINK_TO_CARRIER_X_VIA_4500X
  encapsulation dot1q 800 second-dot1q 10,20,30
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain ?


or a separate service instance and pop inner vlans on each one?

 service instance 800 ethernet
  description description LINK_TO_CARRIER_X_VIA_4500X
  encapsulation dot1q 800 second-dot1q 10
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain 10

service instance 801 ethernet
  description description LINK_TO_CARRIER_X_VIA_4500X
  encapsulation dot1q 800 second-dot1q 20
  rewrite ingress tag pop 2 symmetric
  bridge-domain 20

Cheers


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From: Erik Sundberg <ESundberg at nitelusa.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2016 8:40 PM
To: CiscoNSP List; cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: QinQ 4500X -> ME3600 and access(pop) multiple inner vlans

http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/switches/metro/me3600x_3800x/software/design/guide/ME3600x_Design_Guide.pdf

http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/switches/metro/me3600x_3800x/software/design/guide/CE2-0_certification_v1.pdf

http://d2zmdbbm9feqrf.cloudfront.net/2012/usa/pdf/BRKSPG-2209.pdf


You must do switchport commands
Services Instance is just a number, we keep it the same as the VLAN Id Under the Service Instance you specify the VLAN ID with endcapsulation dot1q x Rewrite ingress Tag POP 1 symmetric  -- This removes the first VLAN Tag on in incoming frame, if you do pop 2, it removes the 2 VLAN Tags.

First Example is VPLS with Bridge Domains. Bridge domain ID does not have to the same as the VLAN Id Second Example is EoMPLS XConnect

VPLS
------
l2 vfi  VPLS1 manual
 vpn id 41
 bridge-domain 41
 neighbor 1.2.3.4 encapsulation mpls

interface GigabitEthernet0/19
 switchport trunk allowed vlan none
 switchport mode trunk
 mtu 9180

!VPLS Example
 service instance 41 ethernet
  encapsulation dot1q 41
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  bridge-domain 41

!EoMPLS Example
service instance 117 ethernet
  encapsulation dot1q 117
  rewrite ingress tag pop 1 symmetric
  xconnect 3.4.5.6 275 encapsulation mpls pw-class L2VPN
  xconnect <Remote router IP> <Unique ID in the AS>



I hope this helps.


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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 3:28 AM
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Subject: [c-nsp] QinQ 4500X -> ME3600 and access(pop) multiple inner vlans

Hi Everyone,


We have an AGG port(Standard trunk port) to a carrier on a 4500X - Port has multiple customer vlans for p-t-p eth services.

A service they have released will allow us to connect to azure/office 365 via QinQ(Carrier doing QinQ, not us) - i.e. We agree to an outer vlan tag with the carrier, and they create QinQ tunnel to azure/office 365...then multiple inner vlan tags are agreed to between us/azure for various services over this QinQ tunnel.

My question is this:

With our current setup (i.e. 4500X, standard dot1q trunk), we would just tag the outer vlan for the carrier to use for the QinQ tunnel to azure...this is fine, but for us to be able to "access" the inner vlans, Im hoping we can trunk this outer vlan to an ME3600, and then pop each inner vlan, and use them as needed.....Is this possible? ie will the "inner" tags be maintained going through the 4500X, and if so, if someone could point me in the direction of ME3600 docco that details how to pop the individual inner vlans, it would be greatly appreciated.

Eg.

Carriers outer vlan is 800
Inner tags from azure are 10,20,30

Cheers


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