[c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic

Matthew Huff mhuff at ox.com
Thu Oct 13 12:44:16 EDT 2016


A sustained 6Gps on a 10GB pipe is hard to do already, but with multicast…. Typically that large of multicast is broken up into different multicast addresses can be split on multiple lines. The burst nature of the feed is going to be an issue. Will it work, yes. Will it work well, I doubt it.

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OTA Management LLC       | Phone: 914-460-4039
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From: james list [mailto:jameslist72 at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:34 PM
To: Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com>
Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic

well we'll connect to 10 Gbs interface a traffic up to 6 Gbs, not on 6748 1 Gbs blades... no other issue you see ?

2016-10-13 18:31 GMT+02:00 Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com<mailto:mhuff at ox.com>>:
The 6748 blades are going to be an issue with buffer overruns. Whether this will be a minor or major issue depends on the application that uses the multicast data.

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Matthew Huff             | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC       | Phone: 914-460-4039<tel:914-460-4039>
aim: matthewbhuff        | Fax:   914-694-5669<tel:914-694-5669>

From: james list [mailto:jameslist72 at gmail.com<mailto:jameslist72 at gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:25 PM
To: Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com<mailto:mhuff at ox.com>>
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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic


Hi



I’m not able to find the multicast replication mode on ASR..



On core routers:



C6807 has  Supervisor Engine 2T 10GE and IOS 15.1(2)SY4



xxx>sh module
Mod Ports Card Type                              Model              Serial No.
 --- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------ -----------
   1   20  DCEF2T 4 port 40GE / 16 port 10GE      WS-X6904-40G       xx
   2   20  DCEF2T 4 port 40GE / 16 port 10GE      WS-X6904-40G       xx
   3    5  Supervisor Engine 2T 10GE w/ CTS (Acti VS-SUP2T-10G       xx
   5   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6848-GE-TX     xx



Mod  Sub-Module                  Model              Serial       Hw     Status



---- --------------------------- ------------------ ----------- ------- -------



  1  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6K-DFC4-E      xxx  1.2    Ok



  2  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6K-DFC4-E      xxx  1.2    Ok



  3  Policy Feature Card 4       VS-F6K-PFC4        xxx  3.0    Ok



  3  CPU Daughterboard           VS-F6K-MSFC5       xxx  3.0    Ok



  5  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6K-DFC4-A      xxx  1.4    Ok



xxx#sh platform multicast routing replication



Current mode of replication is Egress



Configured mode of replication is Egress





Switch  Slot                Multicast replication capability



 1       1                      Egress



 1       2                      Egress



 1       3                      Egress



 1       5                      Egress



 2       1                      Egress



 2       2                      Egress



 2       3                      Egress



 2       5                      Egress



 4       1                      Ingress



 3       1                      Ingress



 5       1                      Ingress





C6500 has Supervisor Engine 720 10GE and IOS 12.2(33)SXI5





xxx>sh module



Mod Ports Card Type                              Model              Serial No.



--- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------ -----------



  1   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX     xxx



  2    8  CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC            WS-X6708-10GE      xxx



  3   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX     xxx



  4   48  CEF720 48 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6748-SFP       xxx



  5    5  Supervisor Engine 720 10GE (Active)    VS-S720-10G        xxx





Mod  Sub-Module                  Model              Serial       Hw     Status



---- --------------------------- ------------------ ----------- ------- -------



  1  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C     xxx  1.6    Ok



  2  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C     xxx 1.8    Ok



  3  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C     xxx  1.6    Ok



  4  Centralized Forwarding Card WS-F6700-CFC       xxx  4.2    Ok



  5  Policy Feature Card 3       VS-F6K-PFC3C       xxx  1.1    Ok



  5  MSFC3 Daughterboard         VS-F6K-MSFC3       xxx  1.0    Ok





xxx>show mls ip multicast capability



Current mode of replication is Egress



Configured replication mode is Auto





 Slot           Multicast replication capability



    1                        Egress



    2                        Egress



    3                        Egress



    4                        Egress



    5                        Egress



Cheers

2016-10-13 17:59 GMT+02:00 Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com<mailto:mhuff at ox.com>>:
Even with fabric enable blades in the c6500, you are going to get massive output buffer overflows. Market data has very uneven traffic patterns causing microburst effects. What sup-engines/blades are on the boxes? What type of multicast replication is being used (ingress/egress). QoS policies typically make matters worse. What type of interfaces are on the 6500?


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Matthew Huff             | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC       | Phone: 914-460-4039<tel:914-460-4039>
aim: matthewbhuff        | Fax:   914-694-5669<tel:914-694-5669>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of
> james list
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:45 AM
> To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
> Subject: [c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic
>
> Dear experts,
>
> I’ve a multicast financial market connected to my infrastructure, I’ve
> been
> informed that a new data multicast flow could reach up to 6 Gbs, so an
> huge
> amount of traffic needs to be replicated.
>
> Market is connected to an ASR 1001, than to a C6807-XL and customers
> are
> connected to C6500.
>
> ASR1001 is running 15.3(3)S1 and currently has a license for 2.5Gbs (to
> be
> upgrade)
>
> C6807 has  Supervisor Engine 2T 10GE and IOS 15.1(2)SY4
>
> C6500 has Supervisor Engine 720 10GE and IOS 12.2(33)SXI5
>
> I’d like to understand in your experience if the mentioned
> infrastructure
> could suffer in performance or throughput or other, having to replicate
> the
> mentioned amount of traffic.
>
> Thanks in advance for any feedback
>
> Cheers
>
> James
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