[c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic

james list jameslist72 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 17 13:08:05 EDT 2016


Hi Pavel
obviously not, as you see from previous email market is connected to an
ASR. then there is a C6807 and the only customer currently requesting this
huge mcast feed is connected to C6500 with a WAN link...

I've attached my hw configuration, facing my cisco knowledge it shouldn't
be an issue, but I was asking for hints...

Matt has pretty confirmed it should work, but he is not sure about the
overall quality if I get it well, if you have another view please let me
know.

Cheers
James


2016-10-17 13:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Skovajsa <pavel.skovajsa at gmail.com>:

> James,
> So all your customers are on 6708?
>
> Why thing you can try is check the internal architecture of the 6708 cards
> especially the egress replication asic.Probably also depends on which ports
> you have the customers connected...
>
> -pavel
>
> Dňa 13.10.2016 18:44 používateľ "Matthew Huff" <mhuff at ox.com> napísal:
>
>> A sustained 6Gps on a 10GB pipe is hard to do already, but with
>> multicast…. Typically that large of multicast is broken up into different
>> multicast addresses can be split on multiple lines. The burst nature of the
>> feed is going to be an issue. Will it work, yes. Will it work well, I doubt
>> it.
>>
>> ----
>> Matthew Huff             | 1 Manhattanville Rd
>> Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
>> OTA Management LLC       | Phone: 914-460-4039
>> aim: matthewbhuff        | Fax:   914-694-5669
>>
>> From: james list [mailto:jameslist72 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:34 PM
>> To: Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com>
>> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic
>>
>> well we'll connect to 10 Gbs interface a traffic up to 6 Gbs, not on 6748
>> 1 Gbs blades... no other issue you see ?
>>
>> 2016-10-13 18:31 GMT+02:00 Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com<mailto:mhuff at ox.com
>> >>:
>> The 6748 blades are going to be an issue with buffer overruns. Whether
>> this will be a minor or major issue depends on the application that uses
>> the multicast data.
>>
>> ----
>> Matthew Huff             | 1 Manhattanville Rd
>> Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
>> OTA Management LLC       | Phone: 914-460-4039<tel:914-460-4039>
>> aim: matthewbhuff        | Fax:   914-694-5669<tel:914-694-5669>
>>
>> From: james list [mailto:jameslist72 at gmail.com<mailto:
>> jameslist72 at gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:25 PM
>> To: Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com<mailto:mhuff at ox.com>>
>> Cc: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not able to find the multicast replication mode on ASR..
>>
>>
>>
>> On core routers:
>>
>>
>>
>> C6807 has  Supervisor Engine 2T 10GE and IOS 15.1(2)SY4
>>
>>
>>
>> xxx>sh module
>> Mod Ports Card Type                              Model
>> Serial No.
>>  --- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
>> -----------
>>    1   20  DCEF2T 4 port 40GE / 16 port 10GE      WS-X6904-40G       xx
>>    2   20  DCEF2T 4 port 40GE / 16 port 10GE      WS-X6904-40G       xx
>>    3    5  Supervisor Engine 2T 10GE w/ CTS (Acti VS-SUP2T-10G       xx
>>    5   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6848-GE-TX     xx
>>
>>
>>
>> Mod  Sub-Module                  Model              Serial       Hw
>>  Status
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- --------------------------- ------------------ ----------- -------
>> -------
>>
>>
>>
>>   1  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6K-DFC4-E      xxx  1.2    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   2  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6K-DFC4-E      xxx  1.2    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   3  Policy Feature Card 4       VS-F6K-PFC4        xxx  3.0    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   3  CPU Daughterboard           VS-F6K-MSFC5       xxx  3.0    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   5  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6K-DFC4-A      xxx  1.4    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>> xxx#sh platform multicast routing replication
>>
>>
>>
>> Current mode of replication is Egress
>>
>>
>>
>> Configured mode of replication is Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Switch  Slot                Multicast replication capability
>>
>>
>>
>>  1       1                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  1       2                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  1       3                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  1       5                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  2       1                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  2       2                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  2       3                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  2       5                      Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>  4       1                      Ingress
>>
>>
>>
>>  3       1                      Ingress
>>
>>
>>
>>  5       1                      Ingress
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> C6500 has Supervisor Engine 720 10GE and IOS 12.2(33)SXI5
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> xxx>sh module
>>
>>
>>
>> Mod Ports Card Type                              Model
>> Serial No.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- ----- -------------------------------------- ------------------
>> -----------
>>
>>
>>
>>   1   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX     xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>   2    8  CEF720 8 port 10GE with DFC            WS-X6708-10GE      xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>   3   48  CEF720 48 port 10/100/1000mb Ethernet  WS-X6748-GE-TX     xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>   4   48  CEF720 48 port 1000mb SFP              WS-X6748-SFP       xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>   5    5  Supervisor Engine 720 10GE (Active)    VS-S720-10G        xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mod  Sub-Module                  Model              Serial       Hw
>>  Status
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- --------------------------- ------------------ ----------- -------
>> -------
>>
>>
>>
>>   1  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C     xxx  1.6    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   2  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C     xxx 1.8    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   3  Distributed Forwarding Card WS-F6700-DFC3C     xxx  1.6    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   4  Centralized Forwarding Card WS-F6700-CFC       xxx  4.2    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   5  Policy Feature Card 3       VS-F6K-PFC3C       xxx  1.1    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>   5  MSFC3 Daughterboard         VS-F6K-MSFC3       xxx  1.0    Ok
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> xxx>show mls ip multicast capability
>>
>>
>>
>> Current mode of replication is Egress
>>
>>
>>
>> Configured replication mode is Auto
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Slot           Multicast replication capability
>>
>>
>>
>>     1                        Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>     2                        Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>     3                        Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>     4                        Egress
>>
>>
>>
>>     5                        Egress
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2016-10-13 17:59 GMT+02:00 Matthew Huff <mhuff at ox.com<mailto:mhuff at ox.com
>> >>:
>> Even with fabric enable blades in the c6500, you are going to get massive
>> output buffer overflows. Market data has very uneven traffic patterns
>> causing microburst effects. What sup-engines/blades are on the boxes? What
>> type of multicast replication is being used (ingress/egress). QoS policies
>> typically make matters worse. What type of interfaces are on the 6500?
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Matthew Huff             | 1 Manhattanville Rd
>> Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
>> OTA Management LLC       | Phone: 914-460-4039<tel:914-460-4039>
>> aim: matthewbhuff        | Fax:   914-694-5669<tel:914-694-5669>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net<mailto:
>> cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net>] On Behalf Of
>> > james list
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:45 AM
>> > To: cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
>> > Subject: [c-nsp] huge amount of mcast traffic
>> >
>> > Dear experts,
>> >
>> > I’ve a multicast financial market connected to my infrastructure, I’ve
>> > been
>> > informed that a new data multicast flow could reach up to 6 Gbs, so an
>> > huge
>> > amount of traffic needs to be replicated.
>> >
>> > Market is connected to an ASR 1001, than to a C6807-XL and customers
>> > are
>> > connected to C6500.
>> >
>> > ASR1001 is running 15.3(3)S1 and currently has a license for 2.5Gbs (to
>> > be
>> > upgrade)
>> >
>> > C6807 has  Supervisor Engine 2T 10GE and IOS 15.1(2)SY4
>> >
>> > C6500 has Supervisor Engine 720 10GE and IOS 12.2(33)SXI5
>> >
>> > I’d like to understand in your experience if the mentioned
>> > infrastructure
>> > could suffer in performance or throughput or other, having to replicate
>> > the
>> > mentioned amount of traffic.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any feedback
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > James
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