[c-nsp] 3rd party dwdm 80km optics in asr 9001

[Gustav Ulander]

Hello.

Yea but the 9001 should also support 3rd party optics. 
We have worked with our supplier for this batch of optics and they confirm that the ones we received might not have been compatible with ASR9k so they are sending us new ones to exchange with.
Hopefully this will solve the problem.

On a different note and more on the lines of your email I find it interesting that the optics suppliers produce optics with different coding. 


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Från: Ulrik Ivers [mailto:ulrik.ivers at excanto.se] 
Skickat: den 19 oktober 2016 22:48
Till: Gustav Ulander <gustav.ulander at telecomputing.se>; Cisco Network Service Providers <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Ämne: RE: [c-nsp] 3rd party dwdm 80km optics in asr 9001

Hi Gustav,

Found this compatability matrix specifically for ASR 9000 the other day (researching CWDM XFP:s for our 9001).
https://supportforums.cisco.com/document/12940551/asr9000-optics-support-matrix

According to this the DWDM SFP+ for 9001 should be coded as DWDM-SFP10G-xx.yy

/Ulrik

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From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Gustav Ulander
Sent: den 28 september 2016 13:09
To: Shawn L <shawn at rmrf.us>; Cisco Network Service Providers <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] 3rd party dwdm 80km optics in asr 9001

Yepp
We actually got an error that says unsupported transceiver so that's why we are going to try a different supplier. 

LC/0/0/CPU0:Sep 27 08:26:43.698 : pfm_node_lc[294]: %PLATFORM-SFP-3-DEV_SFP_SUPPORTED_ERROR : Clear|vic[475264]|0x1029000|SFP Module for port 00 is not a supported module type LC/0/0/CPU0:Sep 27 08:26:43.699 : pfm_node_lc[294]: %PLATFORM-SFP-3-DEV_SFP_PID_NOT_SUPPORTED : Clear|vic[475264]|0x1029000|SFP Module for port 00 is not a supported Product ID (PID) RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Sep 27 08:26:44.151 : invmgr[255]: %PLATFORM-INV-6-IF_OIROUT : xFP OIR: 0/0/2 port_num: 0 is removed, state: 0 RP/0/RSP0/CPU0:Sep 27 08:27:28.669 : invmgr[255]: %PLATFORM-INV-6-IF_OIRIN : xFP OIR: 0/0/2 port_num: 0 is inserted, state: 1 LC/0/0/CPU0:Sep 27 08:27:29.775 : pfm_node_lc[294]: %PLATFORM-SFP-3-DEV_SFP_SUPPORTED_ERROR : Set|vic[475264]|0x1029000|SFP Module for port 00 is not a supported module type LC/0/0/CPU0:Sep 27 08:27:29.775 : pfm_node_lc[294]: %PLATFORM-SFP-3-DEV_SFP_PID_NOT_SUPPORTED : Set|vic[475264]|0x1029000|SFP Module for port 00 is not a supported Product ID (PID) When looking at the optics. 

Operational data for interface TenGigE0/0/2/0:

State:
    Administrative state: enabled
    Operational state: Down (Reason: Link loss or low light, no loopback)
    LED state: Red On

Phy:
    Media type: Not known
    Optics:
        Vendor: Pro10Optix
        Part number: SFP-10G-DWDM-192
        Serial number: D1509180341
        Wavelength: 0 nm
    Digital Optical Monitoring:
        Transceiver Temp: 37.000 C
        Transceiver Voltage: 3.217 V

Im starting to wonder if it's the wrong partnumber that it is reacting on. 

//Gustav

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Från: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-bounces at puck.nether.net] För Shawn L
Skickat: den 28 september 2016 12:54
Till: Cisco Network Service Providers <cisco-nsp at puck.nether.net>
Ämne: Re: [c-nsp] 3rd party dwdm 80km optics in asr 9001

I've found cisco routers to be especially picky about 3rd party optics lately.  I have guaranteed compatible optics that work flawlessly in Cisco switches the will absolutely not work in a cisco router (asr-1001 /
ASR-9001 / 9k).  Generally in the router you can see them, etc.  they just don't ever establish a link.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Curtis Piehler <cpiehler2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am rather shocked this doesn't work.   I'm not sure about the 9001
> however we use varies MPAs for the 9006/9010 with third party dwdm 
> xfp/sfp+ no issues.
>
> On Sep 28, 2016 6:42 AM, "Gustav Ulander" 
> <gustav.ulander at telecomputing.se
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Iam woundering if anyone has had issues running 3rd party optics in 
> > the built in optics ports of a ASR9001 .
> > We have some 80km DWDM optics that we get module is not supported for.
> > We tried with transceiver permit pid all. We have similar SR-MM 
> > modules installed in the same machine that is working as advertised.
> > Iam beginning to wounder if the ASR 9001 is more sensitive with the 
> > longrange optics?
> > We have been using the same optics in a couple of 6500 SUP2t with X2 
> > converters without issues but we cant seem to be bale to get a link 
> > on
> the
> > ASR9001.
> > We are running 5.3.3 on these routers which might be an issue also 
> > we haven't tried downgrade them to something earlier.
> > Perhaps others has had the same issue?
> >
> > //Gustav
> >
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