[c-nsp] Leaked Video or Not (Linux and Cisco for internal Sales folks)

[Alexandre Guimaraes]

To change the direction, Cisco had to make a big step in all areas, where all training stuff, certifications and CCxx badges will be part of the past....

They will make more money as fast as possible, since Arista and others are challenging Cisco devices with lowest prices... and better equipments (forget the support services, doesn’t work when you REALLY need, all vendor have the the type of support, maybe, using the same follow the sun call center)

Until one day, Cisco will face a doomsday and will acquire some company that own the knowledge.

Personally, I move forward to another vendors, leaving Cisco devices and certifications behind... Juniper, even they are trying expand their portfolio, the new Juno ELS cli still holding the promise to fly to the moon. And of course the chipset still behind the expectations.... 

Whiteboxes, perhaps they are the future, we just need to know how the OS we will use that’s will works....

And how support services will deal with it...


My cents,

Best Regards
Alexandre

Em 22 de jun de 2018, à(s) 11:31, James Bensley <jwbensley at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi Saku,
> 
>> On 22 June 2018 at 10:13, Saku Ytti <saku at ytti.fi> wrote:
>> Cool stuff, thanks. Didn't look closely, why do they say research and
>> class-room?
> 
> This is mostly driven by academia, a bunch of universities
> collaborating together. Minimal operator input which is a shame.
> 
>>> [1] Right now FGPA NICs + low end CPU are still mega expensive versus
>>> a standard Ethernet NIC + DPDK + high end CPU. However I do think it
>>> is worth getting on the front foot with these technologies, Juniper
>>> have started to support P4 which again, I convince anyone at $dayjob
>>> to look into.
>> 
>> XEON and BRCM aren't really significantly different in BOM, and BRCM
>> has orders of magnitude more pps. I'm not saying there is no use-case
>> for XEON, what I am saying, if you need significant PPS XEON is very
>> expensive.
> 
> Yes that was the point I was trying to make too.
> 
>> Use-cases I see for XEON forwarding-plane is when you need to do
>> something that BRCM and friends simply cannot do, some b it more
>> exotic use-cases, then it quickly becomes extremely viable solution.
>> And of course if you already have compute which you cannot use for
>> anything revenue generating or when your business unit can budget
>> compute easily, but not networking. Or when CAPEX simply doesn't
>> matter (mostly it doesn't, if you're looking whole company bottom
>> line) and from OPEX POV it's just simpler for you to work with XEON
>> boxes.
> 
> So an "easy" use case might be a BGP free P node for example; a low
> touch config box with minimal features and less to go wrong. VPP is
> pushing the 1Tbps mark on x86 hardware now. But 10x100Gbps Ethernet
> NICs and 64 cores ain't cheaper than a whitebox device right now.
> 
> Cheers,
> James
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