[c-nsp] Internet border router recommendations and experiences

Nick Hilliard nick at foobar.org
Wed Feb 22 14:47:43 EST 2023


Eric Louie via cisco-nsp wrote on 22/02/2023 18:29:
> Mark, thanks.  We were quoted a MX304 for the Internet edge from
> Juniper.  How has your experience been with it?  are you 10G upstream
> and downstream?  Any IPS on the 10G connection?
Eric,

you're mixing up DFZ routing capability with traffic inspection.  If you 
need IPS functionality on top of exterior routing capability, then you 
need to get a router for routing and a firewall for the stateful content 
inspection.  If you want DDOS protection, then you need to think about 
how you want to approach this, e.g. upstream blackholing, DDOS 
mitigation service with GRE return path, or dropping traffic on the box 
using urpf (but that only gets you as much DDOS sinking capacity as the 
sum of your upstreams, so you'd need to question whether this was a 
useful approach).

NCS-5501 is an ok platform if you stay within its limitations. Lots of 
good use cases, but it's not really suitable for dfz functionality.

I'd concur with Mark's recommendation of Juniper MX204 as a 10G edge 
routing platform. MX304 is overkill for this application. The equivalent 
Cisco box for this market segment is the ASR9902, which is not cost 
competitive to the MX204.

Nick


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