[cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I have?

Mike Armstrong mfa at crec.ifas.ufl.edu
Fri Aug 12 16:02:21 EDT 2005


It's not that simple.   Here's a summary of my experience installing 4.1(3):

We have a spare
DL380-G2 we use for testing and staging which was purchased late in the G2's
life, and came with 2 1400MHz processors.  When I started a clean install of 
the 4.1(3) Subscriber,
CD1 identified it as an MCS7835 OK, but CD2 (apparently because of the
1400MHz processors (not the presence of the 2nd processor -- this works OK
on a dual-processor 1266MHz system)) decided it was an MCS 7845, and called
for CD10 rather than CD9 to install the OS.  Since we did not have a 2nd
mirrored drive pair, the install script failed looking for the 2nd drive.

Mike Armstrong
UF/IFAS CREC
Lake Alfred, Florida

 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:30:52 -0400
> From: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio at uoguelph.ca>
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I
> have?
> To: "Marc Hering" <mhering at cwfusa.com>, <cisco-voip at puck.nether.net>
> Message-ID: <001a01c59f74$59d919b0$30196883 at cfs.uoguelph.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> hey, no problem....i wasn't clear on how i was upgrading the box.
>
> sure doesn't look like there is an easy way to upgrade a server to the 
> next level without some sort of jumping through hoops. too bad.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
> Network Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1
> (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more jitter 
> than an
> IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection" 
> LFJ
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Marc Hering
>  To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:27 PM
>  Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I 
> have?
>
>
>  Ah, I misunderstood.
>
>  Then it would prolly just install the 35 image since it doesn't do a 
> hardare check per se, it just checks for a string in the bios....
>
>  Sorry, I misunderstood ya :)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  From: Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio at uoguelph.ca]
>  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:51 PM
>  To: Marc Hering; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>  Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I 
> have?
>
>
>  I wouldn't be changing the hardware to a 7845 I would be adding pieces to 
> my 7835 to 'make' it a 7845.
>
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>    From: Marc Hering
>    To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>    Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:44 PM
>    Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I 
> have?
>
>
>    Afar as I understand it, it doesn't matter what the hardware is (as 
> long as the installer recognizes it as an MCS)  if you have a 7835 now, 
> you run with that, when you move to the 45, you would use the bars utility 
> to backup your CCM configuration, then load the 45 (Using the recovery 
> mode) and restore the config, the installer would see it as a 45 and 
> install advanced server, then when you restore the config you are up and 
> running...As far as I know it doesn't care what OS you have...
>
>    Of course I've never gone from one MCS to another, I've only gone to 
> the same MCS so I could be wrong but I don't think CCM cares....
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
>    Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:08 PM
>    To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>    Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I 
> have?
>
>
>    can i change this? is it not advisable then to plan on buying a 7835 
> with intentions of upgrading it to a 7845 later?
>
>      ----- Original Message ----- 
>      From: Wes Sisk
>      To: Lelio Fulgenzi ; cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>      Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 2:02 PM
>      Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I 
> have?
>
>
>      should still be recog as a 7835 by a text string in the bios.
>      7845 install gets Windows advanced server for > 4GB memory 
> addressing.
>
>      /Wes
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net 
> [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces at puck.nether.net]On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
>      Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:58 PM
>      To: cisco-voip at puck.nether.net
>      Subject: [cisco-voip] Upgrading 7835 to 7845 - what options do I 
> have?
>
>
>      I'm sorry if I asked this before, but I'm just wondering what upgrade 
> options I might have if I buy a 7835 now and want to upgrade it to match 
> 7845 specs in the future?
>
>      From what I gather the two systems are exactly the same except for 
> memory, extra CPU and extra hard disk space. I'd probably buy a spare CPU 
> off the bat since it would be hard to match later.
>
>      If I upgrade at a later time, will the hardware detection disks 
> recognize it as a 7845 and format the disks and install the image 
> appropriately or will it sill think it's a 7835? If it only recognizes it 
> as a 7835 is there something I can switch (software/hardware) to make it 
> be recognized as a 7845?
>
>      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.
>      Network Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 
> 2W1
>      (519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      "I had a coffee and Coke at lunch today...and now, I've got more 
> jitter than an
>      IP phone on a long haul 10base2 connection" 
> LFJ
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