The Compatibility Matrix dated 4/5/2005 refers to CCM Upgrade Assistant Utility 4.1(3), but the latest one available at http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/callmgr-41 is CCMUpgdAsstInstall.4-1-2.exe. Is there really a 4.1(3) hidden away somewhere? Mike Armstrong UF/IFAS CREC